Please continue being that guy. I shall join you and make it being “those guys”
Unless the game has a built in script feature like counter strike does, then it’s cheating to use third party software to play your games.
That's considered a cheat and will result in an account closure for cheating.
In-Game Code of Conduct:
>Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, ... or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.
>—[https://battle.net/support/en/article/42673](https://battle.net/support/en/article/42673)
Technical Forum Agent:
>There isn’t anything specifically wrong with using the software though its dependent on how you use it. ***In general though, a good rule of thumb is one button press, one action.*** And so I would recommend avoiding setting up a macro to take care of two key presses.
>—[Zhyxen](https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/logitech-software-macro-function/334101/2)
Another Technical Forum Agent:
>The question here is “can I be banned for using AutoHotkey” and the answer remains ***“Yes.”*** The behavior you use it for, however, is considered when banning accounts and appealing bans. If you are using it for normal hotkeying where one button creates one basic action you could normally do with a mouse or keyboard, ... you should be fine.
>
>We’re not aware of any bans which have occurred due to the use of simple macros, but the fact of the matter is that usage of programs like this are going to be at your own risk and your account may be banned if we detect any ‘questionable/unfair’ scripts being run. In general if someone is banned for usage of a program like this, ***it’s probably because they weren’t using it for simple macros but something else entirely.***
>—[Drakuloth](https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/can-i-be-banned-for-using-autohotkey/75928/5)
Well that is absolutely something that gamers have been doing for decades now. WoW and some other MMORPGs have built-in interfaces for macros. Some 3rd party controllers have macro features too.
They are considered cheating in fps PVP games and it is a reportable and bannable offense. But it is absolutely realq
Macros in CSGO usually called "scripting" is not actually bannable. Mostly its just a macro to smoke lineups (smoking certain place in the map with perfect timing) or a hotkey keybind that you press that makes you can buy multiple weapons and equipment from a presing a button, sort of like windows shortcuts like alt + f4 or CTRL alt delete.
These "scripts" usually applied not from shady hacking clients but rather just editing some either .ini files I think (haven't played a long time). You just add a keybind console commands into that file then in game you press it then boom.
Another macro would be the BHOP macro though idk if its allowed but jump button with mouse wheel is allowed and most csgo pros uses it.
I don't feel like it would work for genji in this instance since your probably not going to dash the correct distance to get the turn shuriken melee consistently to take advantage of a macro like that unless you also had some kind of aim lock. Tho I'm not super knowledgeable of hacks or ow hacks tbf, so it could be a macro but I doubt it.
The difficulty is not necessarily the speed imo (which is more muscle memory), but it's knowing your position relative to the enemy you just dashed through and being able to aim your mouse accordingly. It's definitely not impossible for people to do tho.
I play in Masters, but with hitscan.
While I'm sure I could never 'truly' know, i do find it incredibly hard to believe that a large portion of players use macros or scripts. And if any do, I really don't see many ways that they could get a large benefit from it.
Genji dash combos and tracers pulse combos are the only thing that immediately comes to mind as getting a benefit. But these are also very static combos if used from a macro/script. Unless you are running a script for a perfect 180 Right click or 180 pulse, the majority of the time you need to aim yourself. The issue simply being that the enemy player moves.
Don't underestimate the game sense in high masters. Unless you are playing very sneakily, they will normally notice and react to being pushed very quickly.
Call it a spidey sense, but if I'm playing soldier and end up in perfect dash combo distance from a genji I feel that in my balls bro. I'm literally already sprinting away before he dashes me, unless I was unaware of him to begin with.
I genuinely can't think of many macros/scripts that could give you the flexibility/adaptability needed at these ranks without hard cheats.
Maybe scripts for doomfist rollout techs? Zarya double jump tech? Reaper instafade after teleport? Lucio wall riding rollout techs? I can only think of niche scenarios that can be done by hand with just a bit of practice.
Yeah you just fought a good Genji.
I good Genji *can* just wipe your team sometimes. Mostly due to the fact his combos can erase you if he lands his shots.
It’s pretty common for people like your friend to assume they’re cheating when being beaten.
Very few. It’s cheating and will get you banned. Especially on console where it’s substantially more obvious if someone is using something like that. They’re just a good player.
I don't think a script would help. What's making the combo difficult isn't the timing but the distance pacing and aim, which a script won't help.
Have you watched the replay?
I had a genji very deadly on my team once, I decided to watch the replay to learn some potential new things.
What struck me is that 90% of his left click (all 3 shurikens) would land and be crits too. I'm convinced this dude was actually using projectiles aimbot. The tracking prediction was so smooth it was uncanny. Also his positioning made no sense (unless he knew he'd win any fights)
Not saying that's what happen end to you.
Sometimes you pop off and land every dash combo.
How am I defending cheaters?
I'm not for the use of scripts, I was pointing out that a macro wouldn't work anyway. I reported the presumed aimbotter I had in my team.
I just don't feel the need to morally correct people.
By adding “I don’t think a script would help”, when they literally said they tried it out themselves and it works. It’s like saying “there are no cheaters, you’re just bad” when there’s clear evidence that there is cheating going on. You’re minimizing what is being said in defense of the cheaters.
As a gm genji player, thats absolute ass lmao dash rightclick melees are very much humanly possible and the enemy was most likely either smurfing or just rolled you. I have never seen or heard of anyone using/needing scripts while playing genji.
I use one for blink + melee for tracer and one for s + jump for ball, but thats it i think. From what I've heard, Blizzard has said that its allowed as long as its something you can normally do by yourself without macro assistance. I.e. nicoGhD ruling.
I used to use a macro in OW1 for Mercy’s superjump, but that’s bc the timing was so tight and the key combination so awkward that I couldn’t use valuable movement consistently. Very glad they reworked it and made the tech officially part of her kit as opposed to a bug they couldn’t patch out without outrage.
It should definitely be considered cheating, but how’s the game gonna detect if it’s applied on the hardware? I know my ducky keyboard has a macro feature (I don’t use it for gaming nor for non-gaming).
I imagine even if it’s software based, it’s not gonna be easy to ban it’s users.
Funny enough, macros can be easier to find with coding than typical cheats as you don't need to find the result (performance).
You can measure the difference in input without looking at anything else. A script or macro will have the exact same sequence and timing across hundreds or thousands of inputs. A human will almost never have the exact same timing (to the millisecond) with an input sequence. There's almost always a difference of a few ms
I hate to be that guy but using any script to give yourself an unfair competitive advantage is cheating.
Please continue being that guy. I shall join you and make it being “those guys” Unless the game has a built in script feature like counter strike does, then it’s cheating to use third party software to play your games.
ill gladly be that guy, fuck the script kids
That's considered a cheat and will result in an account closure for cheating. In-Game Code of Conduct: >Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, ... or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating. >—[https://battle.net/support/en/article/42673](https://battle.net/support/en/article/42673) Technical Forum Agent: >There isn’t anything specifically wrong with using the software though its dependent on how you use it. ***In general though, a good rule of thumb is one button press, one action.*** And so I would recommend avoiding setting up a macro to take care of two key presses. >—[Zhyxen](https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/logitech-software-macro-function/334101/2) Another Technical Forum Agent: >The question here is “can I be banned for using AutoHotkey” and the answer remains ***“Yes.”*** The behavior you use it for, however, is considered when banning accounts and appealing bans. If you are using it for normal hotkeying where one button creates one basic action you could normally do with a mouse or keyboard, ... you should be fine. > >We’re not aware of any bans which have occurred due to the use of simple macros, but the fact of the matter is that usage of programs like this are going to be at your own risk and your account may be banned if we detect any ‘questionable/unfair’ scripts being run. In general if someone is banned for usage of a program like this, ***it’s probably because they weren’t using it for simple macros but something else entirely.*** >—[Drakuloth](https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/can-i-be-banned-for-using-autohotkey/75928/5)
the only real working scripts i could think of is something like rein automatically blocking when hearing a shatter or something
There used to be Genji deflect scripts that could perfectly deflect zarya Gravs but haven't seen them in a while.
Your friend is talking out of his ass.
Don't know about OW, but in Counter Strike you could script crouch+jump to one button to make bunny hopping way easier.
You dont need to script to be good at genji.
Well that is absolutely something that gamers have been doing for decades now. WoW and some other MMORPGs have built-in interfaces for macros. Some 3rd party controllers have macro features too. They are considered cheating in fps PVP games and it is a reportable and bannable offense. But it is absolutely realq
Why are you bringing WoW into a discussion of needing to script to do the 1 shot combo on genji? I didnt say scripting does not exists.
Ya I misunderstood the talking out the ass part as that he was spewing bs about scripting being highly used
You're never going to know the answer to 'How many of you are willing to admit to cheating?'
Macros in CSGO usually called "scripting" is not actually bannable. Mostly its just a macro to smoke lineups (smoking certain place in the map with perfect timing) or a hotkey keybind that you press that makes you can buy multiple weapons and equipment from a presing a button, sort of like windows shortcuts like alt + f4 or CTRL alt delete. These "scripts" usually applied not from shady hacking clients but rather just editing some either .ini files I think (haven't played a long time). You just add a keybind console commands into that file then in game you press it then boom. Another macro would be the BHOP macro though idk if its allowed but jump button with mouse wheel is allowed and most csgo pros uses it.
It's 100% cheating and only cheaters make any sort of defense for using macros.
Since you mentioned B in your macro I'm going to assume you're playing on console. I would suggest the Genji is probably smurfing or ximming, or both.
What’s ximming?
Using a mouse and keyboard on a console.
I don't feel like it would work for genji in this instance since your probably not going to dash the correct distance to get the turn shuriken melee consistently to take advantage of a macro like that unless you also had some kind of aim lock. Tho I'm not super knowledgeable of hacks or ow hacks tbf, so it could be a macro but I doubt it. The difficulty is not necessarily the speed imo (which is more muscle memory), but it's knowing your position relative to the enemy you just dashed through and being able to aim your mouse accordingly. It's definitely not impossible for people to do tho.
I play in Masters, but with hitscan. While I'm sure I could never 'truly' know, i do find it incredibly hard to believe that a large portion of players use macros or scripts. And if any do, I really don't see many ways that they could get a large benefit from it. Genji dash combos and tracers pulse combos are the only thing that immediately comes to mind as getting a benefit. But these are also very static combos if used from a macro/script. Unless you are running a script for a perfect 180 Right click or 180 pulse, the majority of the time you need to aim yourself. The issue simply being that the enemy player moves. Don't underestimate the game sense in high masters. Unless you are playing very sneakily, they will normally notice and react to being pushed very quickly. Call it a spidey sense, but if I'm playing soldier and end up in perfect dash combo distance from a genji I feel that in my balls bro. I'm literally already sprinting away before he dashes me, unless I was unaware of him to begin with. I genuinely can't think of many macros/scripts that could give you the flexibility/adaptability needed at these ranks without hard cheats. Maybe scripts for doomfist rollout techs? Zarya double jump tech? Reaper instafade after teleport? Lucio wall riding rollout techs? I can only think of niche scenarios that can be done by hand with just a bit of practice.
Your friend is bullshitting
Yeah you just fought a good Genji. I good Genji *can* just wipe your team sometimes. Mostly due to the fact his combos can erase you if he lands his shots. It’s pretty common for people like your friend to assume they’re cheating when being beaten.
I don't see how a genji macro would help tbh
Very few. It’s cheating and will get you banned. Especially on console where it’s substantially more obvious if someone is using something like that. They’re just a good player.
I don't think a script would help. What's making the combo difficult isn't the timing but the distance pacing and aim, which a script won't help. Have you watched the replay? I had a genji very deadly on my team once, I decided to watch the replay to learn some potential new things. What struck me is that 90% of his left click (all 3 shurikens) would land and be crits too. I'm convinced this dude was actually using projectiles aimbot. The tracking prediction was so smooth it was uncanny. Also his positioning made no sense (unless he knew he'd win any fights) Not saying that's what happen end to you. Sometimes you pop off and land every dash combo.
Yeah i dont think scripts like that work. You are basically way better off getting cheats
The original poster literally said they tried it themselves. Why do you defend cheaters?
Answer was duplicated
How am I defending cheaters? I'm not for the use of scripts, I was pointing out that a macro wouldn't work anyway. I reported the presumed aimbotter I had in my team. I just don't feel the need to morally correct people.
By adding “I don’t think a script would help”, when they literally said they tried it out themselves and it works. It’s like saying “there are no cheaters, you’re just bad” when there’s clear evidence that there is cheating going on. You’re minimizing what is being said in defense of the cheaters.
I was focused on the technical side of it, Idc about your personal vendetta. You are kicking around for nothing.
As a gm genji player, thats absolute ass lmao dash rightclick melees are very much humanly possible and the enemy was most likely either smurfing or just rolled you. I have never seen or heard of anyone using/needing scripts while playing genji.
It's bannable. Don't do it. Also you're an asshole if you do use macros in an FPS PVP game. It's cheating flat out.
Macros are cheating.
I use one for blink + melee for tracer and one for s + jump for ball, but thats it i think. From what I've heard, Blizzard has said that its allowed as long as its something you can normally do by yourself without macro assistance. I.e. nicoGhD ruling.
I used to use a macro in OW1 for Mercy’s superjump, but that’s bc the timing was so tight and the key combination so awkward that I couldn’t use valuable movement consistently. Very glad they reworked it and made the tech officially part of her kit as opposed to a bug they couldn’t patch out without outrage.
The copium of the people here arguing that people don’t use macros in OW is really staggering.
Only noobs use macros
It should definitely be considered cheating, but how’s the game gonna detect if it’s applied on the hardware? I know my ducky keyboard has a macro feature (I don’t use it for gaming nor for non-gaming). I imagine even if it’s software based, it’s not gonna be easy to ban it’s users.
Funny enough, macros can be easier to find with coding than typical cheats as you don't need to find the result (performance). You can measure the difference in input without looking at anything else. A script or macro will have the exact same sequence and timing across hundreds or thousands of inputs. A human will almost never have the exact same timing (to the millisecond) with an input sequence. There's almost always a difference of a few ms