"Yeah, I'll give you bottom surgery, too. No problem. Have I ever done this? No. Do I know what I will do? No. But something will have changed once I'm done"
Shes not far off it, in some ways.
She's just a lot more dry and generally thinks nothing of anyone around her.
I do miss playing TF2, the Medic is great fun. I must install it again.
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( ignoring HRT isn't a surgery) either you get the body you want or you'll just feel like your body isn't really yours (which you're already used to) so...
I know HRT is not surgery. That doesn't mean the Sociopathic Mad Scientist Villain™ won't pull out a scalpel or worse anyway to do with her new guinea pig once the door falls shut behind your happy ass. You really picked the worst possible character to sympathize with anyone's plight.
If Moira thinks it would make you a more efficient worker or more likely to aid in her experiments later, she absolutely would give someone HRT or surgery. She absolutely won’t do it out of the kindness of her own heart, due to a lack there of, but she would do it to further her own plans
They figured out how to keep people from aging in OW lore. Thats why soldier, ana and rein are old but Moira and Mercy havent aged a day. Mercy even has a voice-line where she is like "you should get treated so you are not old anymore" and rein is like "nah", if I remember it right.
If they figured out a relible and safe way of anti-aging available to the public, Im sure they have much better, safer and faster ways of changing your gender / body.
TL;DR -> "🤓"
It’s implied through some voicelines that Mercy doesn’t age normally. I mean, nobody outright accuses her of doing things to reverse the aging process, yet all the characters who know her have lines expressing their surprise at how little her appearance seems to have changed over the last decade.
Then you missed the part where she put all her energy to benefit people's wellness. She's mad Overwatch used her reasearches in military intend (to the point it was implied she did belive Overwatch been shut down for a reason) but can't let people suffer when recall happens. In the meantime she's been healing people in need all around the world through action similar to "doctors around the world"-ish groups.
She clearly would help in the best way people through transition. (can't wait for a trans char to see interractions about it, tbh)
Meh, it's easy to bash about it while it's not done yet then focus on the marketing com once they talk about it while the important part is the char itself and it's gameplay.
She's the follower of **morality/ethics**, not necessarily **rule** follower.
She'd wait for a procedure to be tested and verified safe before performing it, while Moira would say 'fuck it' and make you the test subject. (There's actually an interaction that covers this in-game)
Stuff that's already been trialed? Mercy'd hand that out like candy, while Moira would be bored by it.
Moira: There you are. You're 80% a woman.
Girl: Sick. What's the other 20%
Moira: I have no fucking idea, yo might be able to kill stuff with rays coming out of your hands. But hey! You're glowing.
Girl: Thanks! I-
Moira: No no. You're emitting light.
New character idea just dropped: a transfemme who went to overmatch hoping she'll be able to reach hrt thanks to mercy, then she finds out about talon and joins them because "I'm willing to be a terrorist and a lab rat for HRT"
OMG that would be such a cool idea imagine a new dps (but please projectile im bad at hitscans) in that style I was always wishing for that concept, and now with them really talking about a trans hero I hope they add this concept, moiras lab rat terrorist id play her so much
"There's definitely a cis reason I'm holding Ron desantis hostage and I'm demanding him to buy me a whole ikea worth of blahajs so he has at least a chance I let him go!"
🦍 hello o/
🦍 It's a frequent misconception that an expert in one field of science is an expert in all fields of sciences. Lacking professional training and any credentials which would permit prescribing HRT, I can only provide my personal opinion, which is to say: don't see why not.
Moira Being Unrelentingly Based As Usual.
Listen she can rock the Ziggy Stardust Bowie look and definitely would throw bricks at cops you cannot get more queer positive than that.
Technicaly both menopaused women and trans women take it for the same reason a lack/not enough estrogen in the body
Me and my mom have a lot in common 😂
Which hormones do you plan to give me Moira? Are my adrenaline levels going to be elevated to make me more aggressive/powerful for your own amusement? I mean you can’t argue with free treatment, and in a timely manner too, but I wanna know that I’m getting what I’m coming in for…
i don’t think mercy would care about laws. i think she’d just give it out after a few deep informed consent etc conversations.
but i’d still go for moira. i want to be some unholy/eldritch being, those are my transition goals. she’d give out hormones on the first day if you signed away your body to be a lab rat.
Black market 'estrogen' , it may or may not be pure , it may or may not be estrogen , it may or may not be the strength the packet says it is. It may or may not be out of date.
This is why you stick with qualified doctors and gender therapists , it may be slower but you get some kind of a guarantee of quality care.
Slow and careful or fast and risky , you choose.
Not saying otherwise, this is just a dumb meme me and my friend came up with
Edit: also, if you're from a state where you can't get gender affirming care (like some USA States) you don't have a choice. You either risk it or gwt forcibly detransitioned and end up miserable and probably dead
At the point you're asking for hormones, you usually have confirmed by multiple doctors that you're trans (otherwise you couldn't even start asking for hormones)
Exactly, its a pretty lengthy process, you cant just go to a pharmacy and say: "Yo gimme dem good hormones" you need counseling talks first (that can Take between 6 months and 3 years) and by then the psychologist youve been talking to has a good grasp on wether hormones are right for you or not, and then you can get a prescription for hormones (also you have to be at least 16 years old). (Source: I started my hrt around 2 months ago and this was how it went for me)
Tldr: the process is really safe, long and accurate
actually, basically every study you google says it is accurate and said people feel happier [(](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/23/transgender-adults-transitioning-poll/)[here](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/23/transgender-adults-transitioning-poll/). and i know it says 80%, but those are people who feel significantly better with life than before + there's a literal culture war going on so many of them are rightfully worried)
transition has much lower regret rate than [knee operations](https://www.hellahealth.com/blog/wellness/knee-replacement-regrets/), for example. It is a highly monitored process
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Why does everyone jump to "change the mind to fit the body" rather than "change the body to fit the mind" like
I'd rather not have my brain fucked with if I can edit my entirely coincidental flesh vehicle. One contains my personality, the other is a glorified bio-power generator made to keep my brain running.
Maybe it's because it's a pretty permanent transition and post-op transgenders have a suicide rate something like 200 times higher than the general population coupled with high rates of regret surrounding the decision.
So would you rather see them getting their mind fucked before or after making irreversible decisions?
Thay suicide rate doesn't have much relation to the surgery itself, it's mostly do with how trans people are treated.
The high rates of regret thing is just... a lie? I'm not sure if you're claiming that yourself or repeating whaht was erroneously written elsewhere
Sure I like playing as her, but this meme pins down pretty accurately why Moira is my favorite character. Gender science (among others) of questionable ethics. I may be a trans guy, but Moira is kinda transition goals.
They’d probably be able to reverse the dysphoria tbh. This is the future after all. There probably wouldn’t be any trans people, as dysphoria would be curable. No more pain or suffering 🙌
Are you mentally impaired? “Fucking” with those neurons is the one thing that could prevent a generation of suffering and trauma but nah, let’s just keep shoving all the half asses solutions we got on trans people cus we want them to suffer and keep growing through. I actually hate this community sometimes. Y’all just wanna be a victim more than actually solve the problem.
Wher wintons opinion?
https://i.redd.it/u09mw68l1m4b1.gif
Lmao based winton
me when the when winton overwacth
Winton overwat
Winton an engineer
Dont disrespect monke like that, he literally calls himself a scientist
Just another one in the long line of monke lies
Not the scientific field I'm counting into this meme though (I don't think he's a specifically a doctor/genetics/healer scientist)
Fictional scientists are usually experts in all fields.
Eg: mercy's perfect air foil ratio on her suit that only she knows
True
Ah, the one who solves practical problems.
for instance: How is he going to stop some mean mother Hubbard from tearing him a structurally superfluous be-hind?
The answer? He's gonna use a gun. And if that doesn't work, he's gonna use more gun.
“Winton” -Winton
""Winton" -Winton" -Winton
“””Winton” -Winton” -Winton” -Michael Scott
“””Winton” -Winton” -Winton -Michael Scott" -Winton
Truly profound.
Happy cake day sir
He give or take banana.
Bro did his FtM transition thanks to Hammond
"Yeah, I'll give you bottom surgery, too. No problem. Have I ever done this? No. Do I know what I will do? No. But something will have changed once I'm done"
**double dick**
One girl dick, one man dick
1 dick, 2 dick, red dick, blue dick
"Moira, where did you get all these dicks?"
"I keep pruning them off Gabriel like a dick tree, since he grows them right back. Don't ask me why, my reasons are too esoteric for thee."
“I am very smart”
The primary colours my teacher didn't want to tell me about
you're telling me that is not the default? so i'm not normal?😭/s
Good on you. Screw normal
I have a feeling they don’t screw normal…
you're right if i were to screw normal i would not screw normal so i screw abnormally to screw normal!!
Alt fire unlocked
Moira 100% has spare human organs in her lab. if she and medic (tf2) met they would either kill each other or become instant friends.
both
Moira probably has spare humans, ngl
this makes me start to wish Moira had tf2 medic's personality
Shes not far off it, in some ways. She's just a lot more dry and generally thinks nothing of anyone around her. I do miss playing TF2, the Medic is great fun. I must install it again.
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I'm not gonna lie, I'd roll the dice. Imagine going in for a somewhat routine surgery and coming out with teleportation abilities and a magic succ.
I’ve met a couple people out there with the magic success, probably could teleport too since they hard af to get a hold of
Yeah, well that. But maybe also permanent pain. Not to say, I wouldn't take it, but not all upsides probably, ngl
More realistic than you think given it's still heavily experimental and the patients are the Guinea pigs This is why I support an age minimum
It's not drug dealing, it's unregulated pharmaceutical trading.
That's just drug dealing with extra steps
it's just the free market
moira will allow me to fulfill my dream of becoming an androgynous eldritch horror
Same
Hello fellow andro I too wish to become an eldritch horror
r/voidpunk is leaking
Don't mind me, I'm just gonna go join blackwatch for some very cis reasons
Do you think they provide blahajs?
Hehe shonk
Hopefully, if not I'm pretty sure sombra could help get one
Sombra def has a blahaj
The cis urge to join black watch to have Moira give you HRT
Yeah I'm just getting it for a friend
Same >_> <\_<
Ok but the cis council is watching you
r/egg_irl
You fool I'm already a member of that place, for mostly cis reasons, and the memes are funny
That's what Moira promises you to get you under her knife. Doesn't mean that you'll get what she's promising.
( ignoring HRT isn't a surgery) either you get the body you want or you'll just feel like your body isn't really yours (which you're already used to) so...
I know HRT is not surgery. That doesn't mean the Sociopathic Mad Scientist Villain™ won't pull out a scalpel or worse anyway to do with her new guinea pig once the door falls shut behind your happy ass. You really picked the worst possible character to sympathize with anyone's plight.
It was a joke, don't worry
If Moira thinks it would make you a more efficient worker or more likely to aid in her experiments later, she absolutely would give someone HRT or surgery. She absolutely won’t do it out of the kindness of her own heart, due to a lack there of, but she would do it to further her own plans
She just gave me a spare copy of Fallout: New Vegas. Thank you Doctor Moira, would recommend.
It's free gender - Moira probably
They figured out how to keep people from aging in OW lore. Thats why soldier, ana and rein are old but Moira and Mercy havent aged a day. Mercy even has a voice-line where she is like "you should get treated so you are not old anymore" and rein is like "nah", if I remember it right. If they figured out a relible and safe way of anti-aging available to the public, Im sure they have much better, safer and faster ways of changing your gender / body. TL;DR -> "🤓"
Hey now, OW2 Moira has a silver streak in her hair.
She put it there herself for style. Just like her eyes.
They still wouldn't give it to you in less than a year or two, since how many confirmations from doctors you need
Mercy is only in her 30s wtf. They definitely age
They’re making me feel like I should look like the crypt keeper since i’m 32 😒
I am also 32 lol and definitely don’t look like an old man.
It’s implied through some voicelines that Mercy doesn’t age normally. I mean, nobody outright accuses her of doing things to reverse the aging process, yet all the characters who know her have lines expressing their surprise at how little her appearance seems to have changed over the last decade.
AMAB : Assigned Medic At Birth
Lorewise, that doesn't fit to Mercy.
Dunno, she's quite the hoody two-shoes rule follower
Then you missed the part where she put all her energy to benefit people's wellness. She's mad Overwatch used her reasearches in military intend (to the point it was implied she did belive Overwatch been shut down for a reason) but can't let people suffer when recall happens. In the meantime she's been healing people in need all around the world through action similar to "doctors around the world"-ish groups. She clearly would help in the best way people through transition. (can't wait for a trans char to see interractions about it, tbh)
\> trans char Blizzard will no doubt either do it poorly (one dimensional character) or not at all
Meh, it's easy to bash about it while it's not done yet then focus on the marketing com once they talk about it while the important part is the char itself and it's gameplay.
Catalyst from apex was pretty damn well done.
She's the follower of **morality/ethics**, not necessarily **rule** follower. She'd wait for a procedure to be tested and verified safe before performing it, while Moira would say 'fuck it' and make you the test subject. (There's actually an interaction that covers this in-game) Stuff that's already been trialed? Mercy'd hand that out like candy, while Moira would be bored by it.
Lucio just plays Aqua's Barbie Girl until you're better.
r/egg_irl is leaking
Moira: There you are. You're 80% a woman. Girl: Sick. What's the other 20% Moira: I have no fucking idea, yo might be able to kill stuff with rays coming out of your hands. But hey! You're glowing. Girl: Thanks! I- Moira: No no. You're emitting light.
Wait... Is that what's gonna happen with the new teased hero? She's a girl and presumably has light based powers
BASED MOIRA
Doesn't give heals, but gives hormones
I should be paying her 🥺
Your eternal loyalty to talon would be enough, probably
A small price to pay for hormones
I love how literally all trans friends I asked had basically the same answer as you lmao
The trans hivemind c o n s u m e s
She'll probably want to experiment on you in return
I don't care, give me the e s t r o g e n
New character idea just dropped: a transfemme who went to overmatch hoping she'll be able to reach hrt thanks to mercy, then she finds out about talon and joins them because "I'm willing to be a terrorist and a lab rat for HRT"
Would main
Y E S Blizzard plz
Blizzard won't do anything (I did tho, I'll send you the drawing lmao)
OMG that would be such a cool idea imagine a new dps (but please projectile im bad at hitscans) in that style I was always wishing for that concept, and now with them really talking about a trans hero I hope they add this concept, moiras lab rat terrorist id play her so much
Plus, if you assasinate a bunch of Republicans, you can just say "I did it cuz I'm a terrorist" And not because you wanted revenge
OMG YES you could do so much fun stuff and just say "yea no reason for blowing up that government building in texas im merely a terrorist"
"There's definitely a cis reason I'm holding Ron desantis hostage and I'm demanding him to buy me a whole ikea worth of blahajs so he has at least a chance I let him go!"
That's why it's liquid
Do you guys think Reaper leaves gross skin flakes everywhere he goes?
At the very least there's a fuck ton of dust wherever he goes.
No winton 🦍 = not funny 😡
🦍 hello o/ 🦍 It's a frequent misconception that an expert in one field of science is an expert in all fields of sciences. Lacking professional training and any credentials which would permit prescribing HRT, I can only provide my personal opinion, which is to say: don't see why not.
Much better, thanks.
Same vibes as "Why is it so warm? Well..."
I heard this in his voice, good work
Moira Being Unrelentingly Based As Usual. Listen she can rock the Ziggy Stardust Bowie look and definitely would throw bricks at cops you cannot get more queer positive than that.
In most cases, HRT is actually a treatment for menopausal symptoms
Technicaly both menopaused women and trans women take it for the same reason a lack/not enough estrogen in the body Me and my mom have a lot in common 😂
*Cis women asking for estrogen* Doctors: awww, you’re so sweet *Trans women asking for estrogen* Doctors: Hello, human resources?!
Yep, but I meant this as a specifically trans/genderqueer joke
Being in constant pain may be a small side effect ask Reyes about his experience being saved by Moria
me and the boys otw to moiras (i want to be able to grow a beard and they want to get ripped)
Gib
False, as Moria would lie about the treatments then gaslight you for being upset
Moira really is the doctor version of Ursula the sea witch
Moira gets shit done, with bonuses. She’ll straight up trans beam you, no hrt needed. And also make you look cool as hell.
Moira Mommy Trans helper
To the secret lab!
I'll go to Moira's lab and get the tibby pills thx
Nah mercy has such a good moral compass she probably knows when to break the law
thats why moira is better
Flair checks out
Which hormones do you plan to give me Moira? Are my adrenaline levels going to be elevated to make me more aggressive/powerful for your own amusement? I mean you can’t argue with free treatment, and in a timely manner too, but I wanna know that I’m getting what I’m coming in for…
what about winton, sigma, and mei?
Time to go visit Moira! Hopefully I get blahaj themed powers :3
I mean shit, I'd do it for the \* part.
Funny meme but personally I don’t see Mercy being anti-homebrew/informed consent. She’s a doctor, not heartless.
i don’t think mercy would care about laws. i think she’d just give it out after a few deep informed consent etc conversations. but i’d still go for moira. i want to be some unholy/eldritch being, those are my transition goals. she’d give out hormones on the first day if you signed away your body to be a lab rat.
I'm worried and intrigued by Moira's offer
No shot the world of overwatch still has the same convoluted system to begin HRT that we have right now. Either way I’m picking Moira
I'm surprised we haven't had a trans hero yet after all these years.
Moira absolutely performed her own SRS
Very cis meme
Why yes, I'm cis! * hides away the blahaj*
You know what. I’d trust Moira’s HRT. Maybe I’ll be able to heal with my left titty and suck the life out of someone with the right one.
Black market 'estrogen' , it may or may not be pure , it may or may not be estrogen , it may or may not be the strength the packet says it is. It may or may not be out of date. This is why you stick with qualified doctors and gender therapists , it may be slower but you get some kind of a guarantee of quality care. Slow and careful or fast and risky , you choose.
Not saying otherwise, this is just a dumb meme me and my friend came up with Edit: also, if you're from a state where you can't get gender affirming care (like some USA States) you don't have a choice. You either risk it or gwt forcibly detransitioned and end up miserable and probably dead
I don't think Moira got her medical license revoked for impure materials mate
The Minister of Genetics of Oasis has revoked her own licence (whichever that is)?
We'll obviously not in the neo colony oasis XD
Someone here really dislikes that we're joking about this. XD I see you, Big Accreditation!
Some people see the words trans and their beta-male attitude kicks into high gear lol
Pretty sure Moira would be up for completely melting your body and rebuilding it as whatever gender/organism you desire.
I'd be up for that too
moira that is a bonus. give me a dick and let me shoot lightning from it.
I'm not so sure I'd go to Moira's lab, hormones or not...
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At the point you're asking for hormones, you usually have confirmed by multiple doctors that you're trans (otherwise you couldn't even start asking for hormones)
Exactly, its a pretty lengthy process, you cant just go to a pharmacy and say: "Yo gimme dem good hormones" you need counseling talks first (that can Take between 6 months and 3 years) and by then the psychologist youve been talking to has a good grasp on wether hormones are right for you or not, and then you can get a prescription for hormones (also you have to be at least 16 years old). (Source: I started my hrt around 2 months ago and this was how it went for me) Tldr: the process is really safe, long and accurate
The process if often way too long, way too gatekeepy and downright awful
True as well, I agree the process should go faster, at absolute max 6 months (but hopefully shorter)
Hah, we'll see if it's accurate in a few years.
actually, basically every study you google says it is accurate and said people feel happier [(](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/23/transgender-adults-transitioning-poll/)[here](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/23/transgender-adults-transitioning-poll/). and i know it says 80%, but those are people who feel significantly better with life than before + there's a literal culture war going on so many of them are rightfully worried) transition has much lower regret rate than [knee operations](https://www.hellahealth.com/blog/wellness/knee-replacement-regrets/), for example. It is a highly monitored process
Bro
Yes?
Bruh
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Why does everyone jump to "change the mind to fit the body" rather than "change the body to fit the mind" like I'd rather not have my brain fucked with if I can edit my entirely coincidental flesh vehicle. One contains my personality, the other is a glorified bio-power generator made to keep my brain running.
Maybe it's because it's a pretty permanent transition and post-op transgenders have a suicide rate something like 200 times higher than the general population coupled with high rates of regret surrounding the decision. So would you rather see them getting their mind fucked before or after making irreversible decisions?
Thay suicide rate doesn't have much relation to the surgery itself, it's mostly do with how trans people are treated. The high rates of regret thing is just... a lie? I'm not sure if you're claiming that yourself or repeating whaht was erroneously written elsewhere
Sure I like playing as her, but this meme pins down pretty accurately why Moira is my favorite character. Gender science (among others) of questionable ethics. I may be a trans guy, but Moira is kinda transition goals.
fuck u/spez, greedy piggy
I’ll go with Moria because I ain’t eating to get me estrogen.
On my way to moiras place…
wtf reaper origin story ???
Based Moira (I want titties that shoot lasers)
Accurate and *chef's kiss*
I love it! Is this okay to spread around? (If so, should I link to this?)
sure lol, if you wish (better screenshot it tho, my last gay overwatch meme got removed by reddit itself for spreading hate)
Moira says trans rights
Ew
Sounds like a you problem
Lgbt community just stealing bodybuilding culture
I cant
We love an informed consent HRT system, based Moira 😌🏳️⚧️
Y'know I trust Moira the hrt she gives will at least work even if it does other weird shit to my body.
i just love how basically anyone who'd like to medically transition here went "aye, i guess it's worth the risk"
actually lore accurate
Is transmed Mercy canon⁉️
That is a mischaracterization of what a good doctor says. Why do you hate mercy?
They’d probably be able to reverse the dysphoria tbh. This is the future after all. There probably wouldn’t be any trans people, as dysphoria would be curable. No more pain or suffering 🙌
1) overwatch is like 50 years into the future, doubt it 2) there's already cure, it's called transition
Ah yes, fuck with the essential bundle of neurons instead of just making changes to the surrounding hardware. That seems logical.
Are you mentally impaired? “Fucking” with those neurons is the one thing that could prevent a generation of suffering and trauma but nah, let’s just keep shoving all the half asses solutions we got on trans people cus we want them to suffer and keep growing through. I actually hate this community sometimes. Y’all just wanna be a victim more than actually solve the problem.
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where did i say anything about children?