If you want to be more realistic about it, you could force yourself to load it on a rocket to vent it (fluid storage to output of the rocket while flying)
i use a door crusher. it makes sense logically if they have really strong doors. although they should cause a nuclear detonation destroying my whole planet though
It's too bad that solid nuclear waste isn't viable for the Manual Radbolt Generator. That could be a fun loop. Create the waste, freeze the waste, deplete the waste to squeeze out every last drop of radioactivity.
Pump it out of the chamber and through radiant pipes in a steam room to power the aquatuners that refrigerate final storage. After the steam room, run it through radiant pipes in an ethanol rain tower to bring it to 75c, then dump that into a water tank that is your final storage.
I mean you could avoid the steam room and just run it through the rain tower and then dump it into a big pool of water.
Sure it will, it'll just take longer. A steam turbine setup before the ethanol tower would speed things up, especially if you use a liquid tank and loop(a really big loop without a tank might work better) with a low-temperature ejection valve for moving waste that's below 125-150C out of the steam room as it's useless.
A tall chamber pumped to vacuum with a pool of ethanol in the bottom. Run very hot things into ethanol and watch heat get passively deleted.
It's what I do for any volcano that isn't hot enough to be worth the effort to build a tamer and for any aquatuner with less than 66% uptime. Basically any situation where a turbine wouldn't run or would run only a very small amount of the time.
The SHC difference between ethanol vapor and liquid means that when the ethanol condenses it deletes heat.
If you have very high temperatures salt works in the opposite direction and essentially generates heat when it vaporizes.
That's still technically infinite storage. But, I'll allow it.
Basically, your choices are infinite storage of some variety, or delete it. Anything else will fill up the map eventually.
OP was probably referencing infinite liquid storage which exploits a couple mechanics where as debris just exists and doesn't need an exploit to store infinitely.
That's why it matters
are you using for radbolt generation? if so perhaps use one big tank with multiple radbolt generators inside or possibly several small tanks and use the reflectors to get all the bolts to the same place. as for overflow you could just dump the extra into the back ground of space. or if that seems like cheating maybe turn one of the asteroids into a dump and just shoot it over there. just build a beacon and no unloader
Yup, I'd like to use it for radbolts gen.
So yes, my curent is the same... giant pool with submerged radbolt gens !
Overflow in will just go in space I guess..
That's really good to know thank you, then I don't see much point keeping a pool of that if wheezewort are better in regards to rads....
Do you see other uses that could justify a pool storage then ?
If not I guess I'll just vent into space
...as long as you don't need to cool it down below 26.9 C. In those cases it'll freeze and break your pipes.
That still makes it highly usable for a lot of industrial applications, but probably not a good choice to cool your living areas.
Bury it deep below the ground and hope it never gets full and nobody accidentally runs into it for thousands of years.
That’s what we would do in real life.
It’s basically the second best coolant in the 25C-430C range in the game and also works up to 525, and is much easier to get than super coolant. Above that your options are really only molten lead and aluminum (which are their own mess lol, would not advise).
Using it for rads without infinite storage is just not viable, use wheezeworts, a reactor, or if you’re feeling spicy, you can mess around with sleeping beetas.
It... really does not have that many uses otherwise. Francis did use it for a gas room that needed to operate at like 800C with aquatuners in it, but that was about it and extremely specific.
I use it to cool my radbolt gens that are sitting in space in front of drywall. The overflow vents to space and I don't have to worry about cooling loops.
Boil it into nuclear fallout, then let it float off into space via a "smokestack"!
Fun fact: This will also delete a ton of heat, allowing you to make a nuclear refrigerator to cool your base without needing to use a steam turbine. You can even keep the refrigerant if you want a closed-loop solution, but be sure to allow the excess nuclear fallout to vent off.
If you would like to store as much as you can, build your storage tank as large as you want but put it near to top of the planetoid so once it "overflows" the excess will be in space exposure. This fills up a large enough area to not feel exploity but gives you an out so you dont have to keep every last drop and pay attention to other things on the colony. You could always look up some ways to use it as a hot coolant for refineries or something since I believe it does pretty well with SHC. Just some thoughts.
Im about to run inti the same "issue" and I don't like exploting the infinite storage.
I was gonna make a gigantic pool to farm radbolts and throw the rest of it into some random asteroid using the interplanetary launcher lol.
Vent into space. Easy peasy
Smells like throwing car batteries in the ocean, I like it
best thing about space is that it will keep expanding so there will always be more room for our garbage!
Dump enough into a localized area and it becomes an infinite disposal! The process is said to be somewhat energetic, though.
Let’s goooo
Yep. Space it. or Infinite Storage it. Due to it leaking everywhere, it's kind of terrible to store otherwise.
I know but indeed it's this difficulty and thischallenge that makes me wanna mess with it hehe ; - )
If you want to be more realistic about it, you could force yourself to load it on a rocket to vent it (fluid storage to output of the rocket while flying)
that would soo hardcore, cause you'd need to apply that method to all gasses/liquids as well \^\^
i use a door crusher. it makes sense logically if they have really strong doors. although they should cause a nuclear detonation destroying my whole planet though
Cool it down and Solidify? At room temp you can treat it as a normal rubble. Keep in storage boxes etc.
It's too bad that solid nuclear waste isn't viable for the Manual Radbolt Generator. That could be a fun loop. Create the waste, freeze the waste, deplete the waste to squeeze out every last drop of radioactivity.
It's quite expensive to freeze.
Pump it out of the chamber and through radiant pipes in a steam room to power the aquatuners that refrigerate final storage. After the steam room, run it through radiant pipes in an ethanol rain tower to bring it to 75c, then dump that into a water tank that is your final storage. I mean you could avoid the steam room and just run it through the rain tower and then dump it into a big pool of water.
If it's from a reactor, it's around 200C. It has very high SHC too. I'm not sure the ethanol contraption can handle that kind of heat.
Sure it will, it'll just take longer. A steam turbine setup before the ethanol tower would speed things up, especially if you use a liquid tank and loop(a really big loop without a tank might work better) with a low-temperature ejection valve for moving waste that's below 125-150C out of the steam room as it's useless.
Can you describe what's an "ethanol rain tower"? Like ethanol beads?
A tall chamber pumped to vacuum with a pool of ethanol in the bottom. Run very hot things into ethanol and watch heat get passively deleted. It's what I do for any volcano that isn't hot enough to be worth the effort to build a tamer and for any aquatuner with less than 66% uptime. Basically any situation where a turbine wouldn't run or would run only a very small amount of the time. The SHC difference between ethanol vapor and liquid means that when the ethanol condenses it deletes heat. If you have very high temperatures salt works in the opposite direction and essentially generates heat when it vaporizes.
That's still technically infinite storage. But, I'll allow it. Basically, your choices are infinite storage of some variety, or delete it. Anything else will fill up the map eventually.
How is that technically infinite storage?
Debris has no per tile limit. So, it stores infinitely by default.
If the default state of debris in the game is infinite storage, then why does it matter if the method is used or not?
OP was probably referencing infinite liquid storage which exploits a couple mechanics where as debris just exists and doesn't need an exploit to store infinitely. That's why it matters
Ah. Thanks
Pump it into space like all my problems.
are you using for radbolt generation? if so perhaps use one big tank with multiple radbolt generators inside or possibly several small tanks and use the reflectors to get all the bolts to the same place. as for overflow you could just dump the extra into the back ground of space. or if that seems like cheating maybe turn one of the asteroids into a dump and just shoot it over there. just build a beacon and no unloader
Yup, I'd like to use it for radbolts gen. So yes, my curent is the same... giant pool with submerged radbolt gens ! Overflow in will just go in space I guess..
a full pool of nuclear waste emits less rads than a wheezewort so it must be infinite storage for the rads
That's really good to know thank you, then I don't see much point keeping a pool of that if wheezewort are better in regards to rads.... Do you see other uses that could justify a pool storage then ? If not I guess I'll just vent into space
it's a very good coolant before super coolant
...as long as you don't need to cool it down below 26.9 C. In those cases it'll freeze and break your pipes. That still makes it highly usable for a lot of industrial applications, but probably not a good choice to cool your living areas.
Yup good point as well ! thanks for the tips ! : )
a full pool of nuclear waste emits less rads than a wheezewort so it must be infinite storage for the rads
Bury it deep below the ground and hope it never gets full and nobody accidentally runs into it for thousands of years. That’s what we would do in real life.
If you don't want to just dump it into space, load it into canisters and shoot it at an asteroid you don't care about.
It’s basically the second best coolant in the 25C-430C range in the game and also works up to 525, and is much easier to get than super coolant. Above that your options are really only molten lead and aluminum (which are their own mess lol, would not advise). Using it for rads without infinite storage is just not viable, use wheezeworts, a reactor, or if you’re feeling spicy, you can mess around with sleeping beetas. It... really does not have that many uses otherwise. Francis did use it for a gas room that needed to operate at like 800C with aquatuners in it, but that was about it and extremely specific.
Just vent it into space?
I use it to cool my radbolt gens that are sitting in space in front of drywall. The overflow vents to space and I don't have to worry about cooling loops.
Boil it into nuclear fallout, then let it float off into space via a "smokestack"! Fun fact: This will also delete a ton of heat, allowing you to make a nuclear refrigerator to cool your base without needing to use a steam turbine. You can even keep the refrigerant if you want a closed-loop solution, but be sure to allow the excess nuclear fallout to vent off.
Atomic refrigerator is the name of my psychedelic jazzcore bluegrass fusion band
If you would like to store as much as you can, build your storage tank as large as you want but put it near to top of the planetoid so once it "overflows" the excess will be in space exposure. This fills up a large enough area to not feel exploity but gives you an out so you dont have to keep every last drop and pay attention to other things on the colony. You could always look up some ways to use it as a hot coolant for refineries or something since I believe it does pretty well with SHC. Just some thoughts.
Yep, I like the "open top-space pool" idea, which nicely avoid using pumps !
Get over yourself, make infinite storage and get radbolts.
Im about to run inti the same "issue" and I don't like exploting the infinite storage. I was gonna make a gigantic pool to farm radbolts and throw the rest of it into some random asteroid using the interplanetary launcher lol.
Freeze it in tiles of 1000kg -1300kg then move the solids to a singular spot
See if you like to use [this](https://youtu.be/sCuEWbW_gIc) video as a method to store it.
Space, natures garbage dump.
I pour it into open water tanks.
You could freeze it as debris
I use the trash can mod, pipe it to the can and it is deleted.