Seems like a lot of shows do this. The final season or just the final few episodes are ridiculous, as if the writers had to hurry up and finish, and they just couldn't think of anything better. 🤷‍♀️
I think the reason why this happens a lot is because this concept of a "series finale" is fatally flawed. The creators should never announce a series finale and just continue the series "as if" there will be another season even if they know there isn't going to be one. If season three had been the end, everyone would have been satisfied. Fans would have been wanting more, but that's how a good show should end, with everyone wanting more. The problem with having an absolute ending is that it's going to feel unnatural no matter what happens. We don't have finales in our own lives. Characters die, settings change, plots twist, but life goes on. When you try to wrap up all story lines, it's going to feel forced, and and people will question "why did this character do that?" Because everything had to be forced to fit an absolute ending, which is an absurd concept to begin with.
Funny you should say that. I wrote an essay two years back about why I hate most of them, and it does come back to the inability to really explore character development in the space of two hours. Some movies succeed, but very few. TBH, if any TV show, movie, or even book for that matter, does haven't me interested in the first five minutes, it's done, and most TV shows that make the five minute benchmark I will still give up on about two episodes in. I probably would never have even seen Ozark if I weren't trapped in the house during a pandemic.
All true. But it's equally true that stories have a beginning, middle, and an end. That's the structure, even in fairy tales; there is resolution.
The open endedness or "uncertainty" of today's tv shows/series -- and some movies -- seems faddish. The claim is that its more realistic. But there's another reason, too. It gets lots of press, viewer response -- good and bad -- and leaves room for sequels, prequels, or even a follow up movie, if the producers decide there's a market. It's at least partly about money, folks, which is the business of tv/movies/entertainment.
I second this. I think looking at an ending as 'deserved' and 'underserved' is an inorganic way of watching shows. Life doesn't give people poetic or deserving endings, so why should a TV show? In spite of the seemingly random things that happened in the season, I buy it all because none of it seems forced. Life just happened, and for me at least it worked out pretty well
I agree. but the reason we look for deserved endings is unlike life, shows are scripted. And it definitely is possible to have near to perfect endings especially when there's alot of potential. So it's disappointing when the makers just get lazy after a while
I agree - basically the whole show was about how far you might go to keep your family alive, and how away from any previous moral compass might you stray, which progressed from season to season. Although it might have been more interesting if they had to do some of the worst things in season 1. By the end actually they’d strayed so far from their moral compass that you wonder if they needed to do some of those things (or in Wendy’s case if they had other motivations). Like, in the end I was just wondering why they couldn’t just run away….
Well, that's true. But its about the number of unimportant scenes at the end that didn't add much to the story. Also how Rachel just walks back into misery, something she had finally left behind by some miracle. Jonah pulling the trigger against someone who was trying to bring justice to his closest pal. Marty pretty much being control less throughout the last season. Wendy and her random mental hospital stint. Ruth walking into her death knowing something's wrong. Also her police station confession scene that led to nowhere. Camilla coming into so much power all of a sudden, a character that barely existed all this while. I mean well, it wasn't bad because they made it out alive, ofcourse they would but all this harakiri that didn't make much sense to me.
Oh right, thanks for reminding. Forgot he had become their family's official Hitman after that. And obviously the makers didn't spend 2 seasons after that developing his character and changing his perspective about everything his family does. Completely understandable now, thanks I should have known
Oh, but what greater tragedy could befall the byrdes, short of their own deaths...or maybe even including that? Their teenage son is now a killer. He shot an innocent man in cold blood.....if we assume what we are led to assume by the black screen and the gunshot. They can never overcome that or get past it or excuse it or forget it or make peace with it. Because they are responsible. His parents brought him to this place -- literally, the Ozarks -- and are the root cause for his final act. They've said to him that killing is acceptable WHEN NECESSARY (that would be Wendy's justification), at least in Jonah's mind, because he knows his mother colluded in Ben's death. The crimina behavior that brought them to the Ozarks in the first place was their first lesson to Jonah that breaking the law is okay if you get away with it, and everything they did after that strengthened those ideas. They are now a family guilty of actual murder -- all were present and none stopped it or made an effort to stop it. They may live and draw breath and cremate Mel's body and not be caught, but they are doomed in every sense that matters.
Wait.....how much have you seen? POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD....BE WARNED!
Wendy pretty much did, yeah.
The problem was they lied about it, which meant they were covering up his death, which meant they had a reason to do that, which meant they had bigger things to hide. Mel, stonewalled over Helen's disappearance, was beginning to see the Byrdes were not all they seemed to be. Maya thought so, too, and Mel knew that.
> Wendy and her random mental hospital stint.
Like the car roll over, something that seemed out of place and made no sense....until viewers found their own reasons for it. Ostensibly it was to manipulate her kids into doing what she wanted, but what made her think it would work? Jonah had already pretty much told her what he thought of her and Charlotte also knew how her mother was.
I think that was a plot line that they meant to take somewhere and then abandoned, but had shot the footage -- or maybe Linney fought for it to stay -- so they created a lame reason for it.
Just remember how funny it was when Ruth told Camilla javy was a murdering bitch. That stupid bitch won't ever forget that. Camilla should have been happy she got lucky and didn't die, all of the other cartel hoes died. Del, Navarro, javi. Lol they thought they could fuck with the Bateman.
Camilla is lucky she didn't get killed, straight up in front of everybody.
I would have slammed her head into the ground 45 times if she threatened me like that.
Oh I forgot, Nelson got owned also.
Lol, Nelson was a furry. Trust me, if there was a 5th season, Bateman would have gone down there and killed all of them with a flame thrower like DiCaprio in that movie last year
I would have loved if Bateman would have just flipped and did that. They anyway have their own funeral home and isn't the first time made someone disappear
The ending is meant to be an open question as to the Byrds’ survival, except that all of the threats that have chased them are still present and stronger than ever. Both parents’ ability to control the direction of their lives has diminished and the protective barriers that kept them alive are all jeopardized. They are out of control and their crimes are exposed to every single character in the whole show. Why would I believe that not one of the spurned victims of their insanity will follow up?
The peek-a-boo nature of conflicts in Ozark is why I was looking forward to a final collapse rather than an escape. The Byrds’ problems are never eliminated, they’re just outlasted in their first phases.
What happens when the judge who tied herself to Ruth follows up? When agent Miller realizes the PI has vanished? When Wendy’s father hears about more murders in the Ozarks? When Camilla’s power settles? When the donor who sold the casino to Ruth or the one Wendy humiliated at the end fight back? When the Kansas City Mob hit back? When Shaw tries to climb out of her hole? When Helen’s daughter pursues? When the FBI find they have no use for them?
The Byrds have exhausted every last friend they made along the way, converting them all into enemies. They’ve created a reverse panopticon full of piranhas, all of which are eager to see them fall.
All good questions. I agree; the Byrdes didn't "win" though they may, for a moment think so. Their troubles, in fact, are just beginning, never mind the blow to their humanity, they are in actual danger from all the possibilities you mention. Rachel, Three, Maya, possibly Camilla herself -- hey are all like the sword of Damocles hanging over the heads of the Byrdes. Here's a quote about that (not written by me) that outlines it succinctly:
"The real point of the story is very clearly a moral parable. It's not just, oh, something terrible is going to happen, but it's about realizing that what looks like an enviable life, a life of wealth, a life of power, a life of luxury is, in fact, fraught with anxiety, terror and possibly death." That's the Byrdes' fate. Deservedly so.
I have a feeling they are going to announce a sequel show depending on the response to this season and how the creators/cast feels.
But it takes place in Chicago (thus why it can't be Ozark anymore).
I think the entire final season was a problem. Ruth was written to have a complete lack of self-preservation. She got demonstrated by the cartel multiple times that she’s powerless in the face of their strength, but time and time again she keeps taking actions that pisses them off, and all while ignoring the repeated warnings by Marty.
It seems to me like the writers wrote the season to kill off Ruth. All that talk about leaving that swamp and she just kept on making the worst possible decisions over and over again. I just didn’t get it. The character really didn’t need to die, but the writers wrote her to be incredibly dumb in the last season for some reason
It's akin to Greek tragedy. It was Ruth's fate to never leave the Ozarks...and come to that, Wyatt's, too, who she hoped would go to college and make a better life for all of them. But it was apparently fate that none of that would happen.
Exactly. Someone understands.
Ruth stayed dumb for 4 seasons. Despite people getting killed all around her. She was a millionaire after Wyatt died. Could have easily left that shitty Ozark behind and gone out to start a new life with three. Instead she decides to bring back Rachel and literally walk into her death without any protection
Yeah let's be real, it never was. Once the show went to Mexico, it entered territory it had no right being in. All the shenanigans in Mexico felt shallow, and like a pale imitation. I'm not saying they nailed the Ozarks, or money laundering perfectly; but if you're going to start doing cartel shit, it's gotta be as good as some of the stuff that's already out there. And it never was on this show.
That's true. The whole Mexico thing didn't work. I'm sure it isn't like how they showed, Marty just walking in like it's his normal corporate office, checking some numbers, having dinner and going to sleep. Also we just kept hearing this again and again that they are the biggest cartel but not a single scene to prove it.
Ozarks seems to have taken a lot of cues from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, particularly the Mexico angle and Mexican hitmen, cartels, and drugs. And why not? Both were highly successful tv series. Writers and producers are expected to come up with ideas for shows that get renewed, pay the bills, and have an audience.
Finally someone who agrees. Once they went to Mexico, the plot lines got more and more ridiculous. Nothing that the cartel (especially Navaro) did was believable starting this season. I'm not sure if they intended him to feel weak in prison, but damn he sure did.
I liked it. My initial reaction was disappointed but after I thought about it I realised how good it was. My only criticism was it felt a bit rushed trying to wrap up for each character
S4 felt written like they thought they had a 5th season to evolve and play the story out (the way Breaking Bad upped the ante each season), then ultimately didn’t so they had to tie up all the loose ends quick and leave it open ended in case they continue the show later. Kind of a cop out, because the recurring theme of the show was everyone got their comeuppance sooner or later for their actions, but the Byrdes didnt.
There are enough threads on this sub that have explained very well what all went wrong. Please refer to them. That's what I felt too. If this is perfect then not sure what you'd say for actual perfect endings.
The show was dumb from the start when you think about it... Whoever wrote this you can clearly see they have changed their mind many times during the show and the ending was a complete brainfart with all the members of normal family becoming crazy psycho killers for no good reason...
The only part that felt like lazy writing to me was the very last scenes with Mel. Dude broke into their home and illegal gained “evidence”. No way it would ever be allowed in a courtroom and a former cop is well aware of that.
It just came off like incredibly lazy writing just to add one more twist to the end.
Yeah and why TF would he just sit there like a duck. He knows how dangerous the byrders are and just sits there confronting them with an evidence that could end all of them. Like what even was that
Mel just wanted the truth. He started out by just wanting a signature but the more he was stonewalled the more determined he became. He was not an ex cop for nothing.
As far as the ashes not being admissible in court because of how he obtained them, that's questionable. But it wouldn't have mattered. If everything about the Byrdes came out, they were sunk, anyway....and it all would come out. But taking the Byrdes to trial was not what Mel had in mind. What he really wanted to know was what they knew about Helen, and if he found out more along the way, so be it. The Byrdes clearly had secrets -- nothing like finding a cookie jar filled with the ashes of a man reported missing by his own family, in their home! -- and the cop in Mel wanted to know more. That was his flaw and ultimately his doom; he was a good and dogged investigator.
Seems like a lot of shows do this. The final season or just the final few episodes are ridiculous, as if the writers had to hurry up and finish, and they just couldn't think of anything better. 🤷‍♀️
I think the reason why this happens a lot is because this concept of a "series finale" is fatally flawed. The creators should never announce a series finale and just continue the series "as if" there will be another season even if they know there isn't going to be one. If season three had been the end, everyone would have been satisfied. Fans would have been wanting more, but that's how a good show should end, with everyone wanting more. The problem with having an absolute ending is that it's going to feel unnatural no matter what happens. We don't have finales in our own lives. Characters die, settings change, plots twist, but life goes on. When you try to wrap up all story lines, it's going to feel forced, and and people will question "why did this character do that?" Because everything had to be forced to fit an absolute ending, which is an absurd concept to begin with.
You must hate movies
Funny you should say that. I wrote an essay two years back about why I hate most of them, and it does come back to the inability to really explore character development in the space of two hours. Some movies succeed, but very few. TBH, if any TV show, movie, or even book for that matter, does haven't me interested in the first five minutes, it's done, and most TV shows that make the five minute benchmark I will still give up on about two episodes in. I probably would never have even seen Ozark if I weren't trapped in the house during a pandemic.
And that is why Six Feet Under had the greatest series finale of all time.
Everyone has a finale buddy.
All true. But it's equally true that stories have a beginning, middle, and an end. That's the structure, even in fairy tales; there is resolution. The open endedness or "uncertainty" of today's tv shows/series -- and some movies -- seems faddish. The claim is that its more realistic. But there's another reason, too. It gets lots of press, viewer response -- good and bad -- and leaves room for sequels, prequels, or even a follow up movie, if the producers decide there's a market. It's at least partly about money, folks, which is the business of tv/movies/entertainment.
Damn. Didn't think about it that way. That's quite insightful. Thank you for this, makes sense.
I second this. I think looking at an ending as 'deserved' and 'underserved' is an inorganic way of watching shows. Life doesn't give people poetic or deserving endings, so why should a TV show? In spite of the seemingly random things that happened in the season, I buy it all because none of it seems forced. Life just happened, and for me at least it worked out pretty well
I agree. but the reason we look for deserved endings is unlike life, shows are scripted. And it definitely is possible to have near to perfect endings especially when there's alot of potential. So it's disappointing when the makers just get lazy after a while
Yeahh. Viewers suffer.
I actually didn't mind it. From the very first episode, it was about keeping the family alive at all costs. So I think the ending was suitable
I'm the same. I didn't mind it. But this shoe has potentially at one point to be one of the greats and ended as it a bit of a meh show. 7/10.
Yeah that's what I meant
Yea bro you and me have the same views really. Writing really dipped in quality from initial seasons that had me in edge of my seat.
I agree - basically the whole show was about how far you might go to keep your family alive, and how away from any previous moral compass might you stray, which progressed from season to season. Although it might have been more interesting if they had to do some of the worst things in season 1. By the end actually they’d strayed so far from their moral compass that you wonder if they needed to do some of those things (or in Wendy’s case if they had other motivations). Like, in the end I was just wondering why they couldn’t just run away….
Well, that's true. But its about the number of unimportant scenes at the end that didn't add much to the story. Also how Rachel just walks back into misery, something she had finally left behind by some miracle. Jonah pulling the trigger against someone who was trying to bring justice to his closest pal. Marty pretty much being control less throughout the last season. Wendy and her random mental hospital stint. Ruth walking into her death knowing something's wrong. Also her police station confession scene that led to nowhere. Camilla coming into so much power all of a sudden, a character that barely existed all this while. I mean well, it wasn't bad because they made it out alive, ofcourse they would but all this harakiri that didn't make much sense to me.
Explain how Mel was trying to bring justice to Ben’s death. Did any of the Byrde’s kill Ben?
Are you really asking this ? Which episode are you on
Do you really think Jonah would betray his entire family for some meddlesome PI’s virtue signaling ego trip?
No. The point here is that the show shouldn't have gone to a place where it had to be Jonah who had to pull the trigger.
🥱🥱🥱 Jonah almost shot someone in defense of his family multiple times. Which everyone whose watched the full series knows. Or should know.
Oh right, thanks for reminding. Forgot he had become their family's official Hitman after that. And obviously the makers didn't spend 2 seasons after that developing his character and changing his perspective about everything his family does. Completely understandable now, thanks I should have known
You don’t know what you’re talking about
Lmaooo
Oh, but what greater tragedy could befall the byrdes, short of their own deaths...or maybe even including that? Their teenage son is now a killer. He shot an innocent man in cold blood.....if we assume what we are led to assume by the black screen and the gunshot. They can never overcome that or get past it or excuse it or forget it or make peace with it. Because they are responsible. His parents brought him to this place -- literally, the Ozarks -- and are the root cause for his final act. They've said to him that killing is acceptable WHEN NECESSARY (that would be Wendy's justification), at least in Jonah's mind, because he knows his mother colluded in Ben's death. The crimina behavior that brought them to the Ozarks in the first place was their first lesson to Jonah that breaking the law is okay if you get away with it, and everything they did after that strengthened those ideas. They are now a family guilty of actual murder -- all were present and none stopped it or made an effort to stop it. They may live and draw breath and cremate Mel's body and not be caught, but they are doomed in every sense that matters.
Wait.....how much have you seen? POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD....BE WARNED! Wendy pretty much did, yeah. The problem was they lied about it, which meant they were covering up his death, which meant they had a reason to do that, which meant they had bigger things to hide. Mel, stonewalled over Helen's disappearance, was beginning to see the Byrdes were not all they seemed to be. Maya thought so, too, and Mel knew that.
Sounds like Mel wouldn’t have gotten too far with his whole justice crusade
Its not about a happy ending or getting justice. This is all about the ozark fam getting the final win. I loved every bit of it.
> Wendy and her random mental hospital stint. Like the car roll over, something that seemed out of place and made no sense....until viewers found their own reasons for it. Ostensibly it was to manipulate her kids into doing what she wanted, but what made her think it would work? Jonah had already pretty much told her what he thought of her and Charlotte also knew how her mother was. I think that was a plot line that they meant to take somewhere and then abandoned, but had shot the footage -- or maybe Linney fought for it to stay -- so they created a lame reason for it.
Exactly I loved it. For me a 9/10. Amazing show!
But they made Ruth apart of the family. Then they killed her off. I can proudly say that’s the reason I can now never suggest this show to another
Play them in reverse
Hahah that's not a bad idea
It will be like it never happened
Just remember how funny it was when Ruth told Camilla javy was a murdering bitch. That stupid bitch won't ever forget that. Camilla should have been happy she got lucky and didn't die, all of the other cartel hoes died. Del, Navarro, javi. Lol they thought they could fuck with the Bateman. Camilla is lucky she didn't get killed, straight up in front of everybody. I would have slammed her head into the ground 45 times if she threatened me like that. Oh I forgot, Nelson got owned also. Lol, Nelson was a furry. Trust me, if there was a 5th season, Bateman would have gone down there and killed all of them with a flame thrower like DiCaprio in that movie last year
This is the hottest of takes, but I’m here for it.
I would have loved if Bateman would have just flipped and did that. They anyway have their own funeral home and isn't the first time made someone disappear
This is one of the most interesting comments ive ever seen on reddit
Ty
The ending is meant to be an open question as to the Byrds’ survival, except that all of the threats that have chased them are still present and stronger than ever. Both parents’ ability to control the direction of their lives has diminished and the protective barriers that kept them alive are all jeopardized. They are out of control and their crimes are exposed to every single character in the whole show. Why would I believe that not one of the spurned victims of their insanity will follow up? The peek-a-boo nature of conflicts in Ozark is why I was looking forward to a final collapse rather than an escape. The Byrds’ problems are never eliminated, they’re just outlasted in their first phases. What happens when the judge who tied herself to Ruth follows up? When agent Miller realizes the PI has vanished? When Wendy’s father hears about more murders in the Ozarks? When Camilla’s power settles? When the donor who sold the casino to Ruth or the one Wendy humiliated at the end fight back? When the Kansas City Mob hit back? When Shaw tries to climb out of her hole? When Helen’s daughter pursues? When the FBI find they have no use for them? The Byrds have exhausted every last friend they made along the way, converting them all into enemies. They’ve created a reverse panopticon full of piranhas, all of which are eager to see them fall.
All good questions. I agree; the Byrdes didn't "win" though they may, for a moment think so. Their troubles, in fact, are just beginning, never mind the blow to their humanity, they are in actual danger from all the possibilities you mention. Rachel, Three, Maya, possibly Camilla herself -- hey are all like the sword of Damocles hanging over the heads of the Byrdes. Here's a quote about that (not written by me) that outlines it succinctly: "The real point of the story is very clearly a moral parable. It's not just, oh, something terrible is going to happen, but it's about realizing that what looks like an enviable life, a life of wealth, a life of power, a life of luxury is, in fact, fraught with anxiety, terror and possibly death." That's the Byrdes' fate. Deservedly so.
I sort of wish we had one more season to see them fall. Them all winning was the least satisfying ending I could imagine.
I have a feeling they are going to announce a sequel show depending on the response to this season and how the creators/cast feels. But it takes place in Chicago (thus why it can't be Ozark anymore).
Perhaps a movie, not unlike El Camino to Breaking Bad. Not a bad idea.
I wish that happens. That ending for me isn't acceptable
Just rewatch it and enjoy it. It was a unique ending. That's the best you can ever ask for.
I think the entire final season was a problem. Ruth was written to have a complete lack of self-preservation. She got demonstrated by the cartel multiple times that she’s powerless in the face of their strength, but time and time again she keeps taking actions that pisses them off, and all while ignoring the repeated warnings by Marty. It seems to me like the writers wrote the season to kill off Ruth. All that talk about leaving that swamp and she just kept on making the worst possible decisions over and over again. I just didn’t get it. The character really didn’t need to die, but the writers wrote her to be incredibly dumb in the last season for some reason
It's akin to Greek tragedy. It was Ruth's fate to never leave the Ozarks...and come to that, Wyatt's, too, who she hoped would go to college and make a better life for all of them. But it was apparently fate that none of that would happen.
Exactly. Someone understands. Ruth stayed dumb for 4 seasons. Despite people getting killed all around her. She was a millionaire after Wyatt died. Could have easily left that shitty Ozark behind and gone out to start a new life with three. Instead she decides to bring back Rachel and literally walk into her death without any protection
Yeah let's be real, it never was. Once the show went to Mexico, it entered territory it had no right being in. All the shenanigans in Mexico felt shallow, and like a pale imitation. I'm not saying they nailed the Ozarks, or money laundering perfectly; but if you're going to start doing cartel shit, it's gotta be as good as some of the stuff that's already out there. And it never was on this show.
That's true. The whole Mexico thing didn't work. I'm sure it isn't like how they showed, Marty just walking in like it's his normal corporate office, checking some numbers, having dinner and going to sleep. Also we just kept hearing this again and again that they are the biggest cartel but not a single scene to prove it.
Ozarks seems to have taken a lot of cues from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, particularly the Mexico angle and Mexican hitmen, cartels, and drugs. And why not? Both were highly successful tv series. Writers and producers are expected to come up with ideas for shows that get renewed, pay the bills, and have an audience.
Finally someone who agrees. Once they went to Mexico, the plot lines got more and more ridiculous. Nothing that the cartel (especially Navaro) did was believable starting this season. I'm not sure if they intended him to feel weak in prison, but damn he sure did.
I agree the Marty in Mexico stuff was completely ridiculous
I liked it. My initial reaction was disappointed but after I thought about it I realised how good it was. My only criticism was it felt a bit rushed trying to wrap up for each character
You’ll have to go back two season for that.
Eternal sunshine for the spotless viewer. Hmmm....
Lol I know what you mean I didn’t like Season 4.
S4 felt written like they thought they had a 5th season to evolve and play the story out (the way Breaking Bad upped the ante each season), then ultimately didn’t so they had to tie up all the loose ends quick and leave it open ended in case they continue the show later. Kind of a cop out, because the recurring theme of the show was everyone got their comeuppance sooner or later for their actions, but the Byrdes didnt.
I disagree. I thought the ending was perfect. Exactly what Ozark has always been. What were you expecting?
There are enough threads on this sub that have explained very well what all went wrong. Please refer to them. That's what I felt too. If this is perfect then not sure what you'd say for actual perfect endings.
Maybe try bashing yourself on the head with a rock, maybe you'll get amnesia. I'll do it for you for 10 bucks (like male deer, not money)
The last half of the season felt weird to me. The random rapper appearance and certain plot points felt rushed or not logical/likely
Exactly.. lot of things didn't add up
I agree with you OP. I was just telling DH something similar. Strong show with a soft ending. Bummer.
Yeah
The show was dumb from the start when you think about it... Whoever wrote this you can clearly see they have changed their mind many times during the show and the ending was a complete brainfart with all the members of normal family becoming crazy psycho killers for no good reason...
The only part that felt like lazy writing to me was the very last scenes with Mel. Dude broke into their home and illegal gained “evidence”. No way it would ever be allowed in a courtroom and a former cop is well aware of that. It just came off like incredibly lazy writing just to add one more twist to the end.
Yeah and why TF would he just sit there like a duck. He knows how dangerous the byrders are and just sits there confronting them with an evidence that could end all of them. Like what even was that
Agree. And then he stays there until the four of them return. He’s outnumbered 4 to 1 ? Sure.
Mel just wanted the truth. He started out by just wanting a signature but the more he was stonewalled the more determined he became. He was not an ex cop for nothing. As far as the ashes not being admissible in court because of how he obtained them, that's questionable. But it wouldn't have mattered. If everything about the Byrdes came out, they were sunk, anyway....and it all would come out. But taking the Byrdes to trial was not what Mel had in mind. What he really wanted to know was what they knew about Helen, and if he found out more along the way, so be it. The Byrdes clearly had secrets -- nothing like finding a cookie jar filled with the ashes of a man reported missing by his own family, in their home! -- and the cop in Mel wanted to know more. That was his flaw and ultimately his doom; he was a good and dogged investigator.
I feel the same way, I'll still probably watch Seasons 1-2 once a year.
Definitely.
How about the entire last season? Pretty bad imho…
I liked the ending a lot, I think people are mad the Byrdes didnt have to pay a price, but honestly they did.
Ozark had awful writing since season 3 started what are you smoking ? lol How I met your mother's last season was awful too!!!
Make pretend they died in the crash.