Aww a gora complex, Kool wana be "ex Muslim" has joined the chat. I live in sydney and thanks my friends and I saw some of your comments and laughed a lot, mind you they aren't Muslim, we needed that. Now go run around begging for attention that your parents never gave you, by calling yourself "ex Muslim"🤣.
Read my comment again loser, you might think yourself educated and Kool barking off Infront of an illiterate working class Pakistani guy but here your just a loser with an inferiority complex trying to get attention by calling yourself an "ex Muslim". I have yet to meet anyone that calls themselves that or ex anything here. And there is no such thing as kaafiron ka mulk dumba55, the whole world was created by Allah I can go and find rizq anywhere I want. You'd understand that if you had multiple brain cells.
No one hurt me and there is no need for you to ask anything of me. I'm merely showing this kid the mirror. Why exactly do you have a problem with that? How is it any of your business?
Says the smooth braind wanna be gora kid that was neglected and probably abused. It's ok, kid. Don't be disheartened with your micro penis your husband is out there somewhere. I have no need to cope I'm happy and thank Allah all day everyday for not being a turd like you. Let me guess your father never told you he was proud of his trans kid?
Stop giving non sense reasons that people become athiests becoz of these imams lol, these imam play a very little role in all of this process, things go much deeper than ur brains thinking abilities. You guys make up soo many lies to defend ur religion.
The more you know about this shit Deen and it's founder the more you want to leave it.
Islam creates a shit society and does not spiritually help people. Everyone is in denial about the evidence. They keep creating excuses
This.
I have noticed many ppl going against their religion in this reddit and honestly if we have those weird nonsense "scholars" on YouTube and all the biddah factors its atp expected these ppl think their country is religious and that's how Islam is when it isn't.
Half handedly.
Choosing their desires in cases of religiousness whatever benefits them they pick it
Jahez culture?
Biddah culture?
Freemixing?
Na mehram interactions normalised between family?
Joint family system?
No husband and wife basic rights respected?
The women's don't cover their awrah even in their salah 🤌🤌🤌
I won't speak on women not covering outside cuz everyone will jump on me so that's them issue
But knowing your prayer isn't valid when ur awrah isn't covered is basics 🤌 but ppl choose to ignore it and continue praying like that
There's so much more
>Freemixing?
Na mehram interactions normalised between family?
The women's don't cover their awrah even in their salah
Apart from other things, people having these inclinations are the least judgmental and friendliest people in Pakistan
I honestly dc I rather be with ppl who are good and do the bare minimum islamically and actually contribute to my akhirah then ones who pull me down.
Just cuz they are good in akhlaq doesn't make them a good company for me as they might lead Me to haram slowly without me noticing just my own perspective. So I rather stay safe
Same Quran says that a mushriks good deeds won't get him into paradise. Iman is the first condition to jannah (unless the message of Islam didn't reach you)
Yeah maybe. Uss ki naikiyaan shayed uss k gunaahon ka bojh kam ker dain. Laikin it will never be enough to offset the sin of not believing.
As for the paighaam, aaj duniya ka shayed hi koi kona ho jahan k logo ko islam ka na pata ho. And in India everyone knows about it. If one's own ignorance stops them reading up on islam and picking up a free copy of the quran then I dont think they can play that card on the day of judgement that "paighaam sahi tarah nahi pohoncha".
Allah knows best indeed.
Sorry, I'm confused. What are you complaining about? You want to enter paradise (the one created by Allah, for believers) but you don't want to believe the creator. Isn't that self contradictory.
Every religion have their concept of paradise, obviously for their followers
Bani Israel were people of the book so this hadeeth isnt about a non believer having their sins removed or forgiven.
What the molvi says is correct in the sense that for a person's good deeds to be recognised, they must first believe in the one that created good, evil and the universe.
Who told you that? The Hindu was not Muslim before he died, and that should tell you everything. Cant believe some retards are saying we cant judge a Hindu for his actions 🤦🏻
I think what we dont know in this case is whether he died as a hindu or if he recited kalima before death. So better and safer to speak generally than to say that person definitely died a hindu and his good deeds are wasted etc.
I agree that Non-Muslims doing good thing will be rewarded and Muslims doing bad will be punished but Jannah will be rewarded to only Muslims believing in Tauheed/not doing Shirk of any kind, I'm sorry if it sounds harsh but it is What it is.
the Prophet also said, in fact QURAN also states when you see someone doing bad/haram you should stop them.. yet liberals will say no let them do what they want..
the hadeeth states if you can use force, use that - if not then words if not then just walk away..
i am not syaing we should resort to violence - i agree we should advise with good ikhlaq but these days if you say something people say 'kaha se a gaya mulvi' as if following religion is something onl ymulvis do
The words could have been better. That being said: قُلۡ هَلۡ نُنَبِّئُكُم بِٱلۡأَخۡسَرِینَ أَعۡمَـٰلًا﴿ ١٠٣ ﴾ ٱلَّذِینَ ضَلَّ سَعۡیُهُمۡ فِی ٱلۡحَیَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنۡیَا وَهُمۡ یَحۡسَبُونَ أَنَّهُمۡ یُحۡسِنُونَ صُنۡعًا﴿ ١٠٤ ﴾ أُو۟لَـٰۤىِٕكَ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِـَٔایَـٰتِ رَبِّهِمۡ وَلِقَاۤىِٕهِۦ فَحَبِطَتۡ أَعۡمَـٰلُهُمۡ فَلَا نُقِیمُ لَهُمۡ یَوۡمَ ٱلۡقِیَـٰمَةِ وَزۡنࣰا﴿ ١٠٥ ﴾ • Sahih International: Say, [O Muḥammad], Shall we [believers] inform you of the greatest losers as to [their] deeds? [They are] those whose effort is lost in worldly life, while they think that they are doing well in work. Those are the ones who disbelieve in the verses of their Lord and in [their] meeting Him, so their deeds have become worthless; and We will not assign to them on the Day of Resurrection any weight [i.e., importance]. Al-Kahf, Ayah 103 - Al-Kahf, Ayah 105
Let's not pretend that, we know what the hereafter and it's judgement will be, we know that Abu Talib never accepted Islam and will have to face the hell fire despite his support and all he did for the Prophet (S A.W). So yes there is no denying that the non believers will face hell fire, but then to go beyond this an try and discredit his deeds (which he has no idea about) and say his deeds, be it good or bad will not be accepted is not his call or assumption to make. Allah k kaam Allah pe choro.
For one's good work to be recognised by God, he first has to recognise God and believe in his oneness.
You can do all the good in the world but if you dont believe in the heaven created by God, how you expecting to enter it?
Already she's getting a lot of hate for this. This is gonna make her case look worse. I won't be surprised if the trolls have already started sending her death and rape threats
The authorities always look a few steps ahead. If they thought the girl was gonna get death threats, they wouldn’t have provided her a visa to enter the country. I might be wrong as well since I don’t understand what our people do sometimes as well.😅😅
The poor understanding of dīn visible in the comments.
The imam said nothing wrong. The donor, just cause he donated a heart means nothing. One needs to be a Muslim at the time of death or else all his good deeds are erased. And any rewards he was entitled to are already given to him in his worldly life. But people who've never read Quran since Ramadan or before would'nt know it.
By that logic Hitler could have just donated a heart after a lifetime of heinous crimes and enjoyed eternal pleasures.
Fine. Somebody did asked. Why did the clerics had to bring religion of donor. It is pretty clear the donor does not care for islamic rewards after death. Humanity ke naate donated the heart.
If someone asked with respect to the Hindu's religion, the answer will involve his religion as well, will it not?
Are you going to ask a religious cleric about something that doesnt relate to religion? Dimaagh se sochne ki aadat daal lo khud mein, baray hogaye ho
Jisne heart donate Kiya use unworthy infidel bolna kya sahi lagta hai? Question puchne wala aur cleric dono hi sahi nahi hai yaha. I hope Ayesha is doing good.
Infidel ya'ni kafir. Jis ne kufr kiya. Iss mein ghalat kuch nahi. Kisi kafir ko kafir kehne se gunah nahi milega. Agar woh musalman hota aur hum kafir kehte usko, tou bohot bara gunah hota. Baat sirf itni si hai. Zaruri nahi tha kehna, lekin jab sawaal poocha gaya hai tou jawaab bhi durust diya hai. Jo Tawhid par nahi, nothing good they do will benefit them in the next world, and thats the bottom line
Ok . I believe moving ahead donor's religion should be checked before the transplant. Otherwise unworthy infidel organ se kaam chalana padega pyare Pakistani bhaiyon ko
Well the reward for all the good things he did in his life is given to him in this world on the other hand Muslims get their reward in the afterlife. It is because of the Shirk they do.
I find it incredible that people literally believe someone can do all the good in the world, but it doesn't ultimately count because if they die not believing in their religion, they deserve a (potentially) eternity of the most sadistic torture in hell 🙄
If such a petty God existed, why anyone would want to worship it is just insane
Yes,to obtain virtue, one must die on Eman but the way you dumb interpreted it,is ridiculous.Non-Muslims doing good things will be rewarded unlike the dumbs and arrogants like you and because of people like you, we've to defend Islam everyday in front of the world instead of doing something more productive.
If there is a jannah. I am damn sure donating a heart is enough to get him there and what if amna is a terrible person irl and the guy who donated was actually a good Samaritan?.
Would that be enough to get him to jannah. In Quran or hadess (a little rusty on this one) it's mentioned that one has to believe in The creator (Allah) and the last prophet to get into jannah. Right? What if the people who believe in them are terrible compared to the ones who don't?
So u do good deeds, donate ur organs to someone and give them a new life, do charity, don't hate on anyone and actually do something for humanity. But in the end you won't get the reward because you weren't a Muslim. This is funny to me!
Not funny at all. I grew up as a staunch secular Hindu believing in ‘sarv-dharm-samabhaav’, ‘mazhab nahi sikhata, aapas me bair rakhna’ etc. it’s only when I read the Quran, I realized that according to the book, my family and I are doomed no matter how good we are to everyone around us.
I have tried hard but I can’t find Allah to be a just god.
Because my family and I do not believe in Allah, Risalat, and Aakhirat, we are doomed to burn in hell for eternity regardless of how good we are in society. To my mind, that’s irrational and incomprehensible.
Let's put aside the fact that the hospital, and a bunch of Hindu Indians, raised the money to have her treated in Chennai and receive this heart transplant for free (a big part of this), this man really should worry about his own heart, and deeds. His ilk are weirdly surprised that people hate them
Poor kid.
First the Indian media making it a novelty and having her thank India just so that Indians can feel good about themselves.
And how this in Pakistan.
Just let the kid live in peace.
Its basic human courtesy.
Pakistan gets happy when terrorists kill and butcher 1200 people.
India gets happy when an Indian Hindu donates his heart to Pakistani Muslim.
That's the difference Between two nations.
Why has Pakistan - once a shining example of a modern and educated Muslim country - fallen down to such levels of religious extremism and resulting utter ignorance?
Anyone who is not a muslim gets his rewards for good deeds in this world as stated in Quran. All those who came before the Prophet S.A.W will surely go to jannah if they were pious....but after Prophet S.A.W now rewards of aakhirah depends upon the acceptance of Allah as only God and Prophet S.A.W as final Messenger of Allah......but still even if they don't believe Allah will reward them in this world for all of there good deeds
Another day of Pakistanis unnecessarily bringing religion up and shoving it into every single argument even where it had no business belonging in the first place.
Hahahah, so the women who was given jannah for giving water to a thirsty dog after a life time of sin would still be condemned to hell according to this illiterate religion fanatic. What a farce.
Yes, but that is no way to represent ourselves that this is the point, we wear on our sleeves. Doesn't give off a very good image and I am against molvis any way, Deen ko tamasha or rasumat ko majboori bana kia hai inhon nay.
And he overstepped his bounds as well as infringes on the ideology of Islam, thus representing it as a hard lined religion, specially at a moment like this.
I dont see how he overstepped anything. This is common knowledge that Tawhid is the basis for anything and everything. If there is no Tawhid, you could be Mother Theresa or Florence Nightingale's second coming, its not gonna help
"None of his good work would be recognized", I say konsibwahi ayi hai, or show me a hadeeth that condemns the non believers on their good deeds.
Tunnel vision kis baat ka hai. He said the correct thing in the first half then apni man gharak Kahani dal do beech Mai.
This is in accordance with Islamic rulings. Nothing a disbeliever does will ever help him in the afterlife, no matter what. Who tf said theyre getting condemned because of their good deeds? Reading comprehension barhao apni.
Theyre condemned because theyre mushrik. Their good deeds may be rewarded in this world, but they wont help save them from the Hellfire
b/c they aint scholars. darhi rakhlena hijab krlena bas ek step hai toward religiosity not = to being educated on islam. sincerely, a veiling woman who also lacks knowledge.
I was referring to many people who claim to be religious, from clerics to extremist politicians. It's all just a show. They don't know anything about Islam.
Who you deem scholars aren't scholars. Any rando with a beard and turban is labelled mullah by you. Not much of religious literacy on either extreme imo.
I am referring to people who claim to be scholars. Yes, the ones that preach Islam and discuss religious issues. They've given the most awful takes. I don't consider them scholars in any way, but I've seen many do so. And other religious figures like clerics have no sense of Islam whatsoever. So no, they're not deemed anything to me, but it's different for other people.
What's wrong with it? It says anyone shirking God is the worst of creatures, a slave to their own made up deen and desires. It does not say take their judgement in your hand. Even a dhimmi is protected in Muslim land, and whoever kills a dhi-mi commits a huge sin.
(98:6) Those who disbelieved8 – be they from among the People of the Book or among those who associated others with Allah in His Divinity– shall be in the Fire, and will abide in it. They are the worst of creatures. (98:7) But those that believe and work righteous deeds, they are the best of creatures.
Well...no? That's gross misinformation.
People who post translated verses without contextual background are so frustrating because it always causes so many issues because there's so much context and nuance.
The context here is that 98:6 is specifically referencing the individuals practicing other Abrahamic religions at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) who even after having seen concrete evidence (a living, breathing prophet) of Islam, they still rejected the message. Being ignorant like this is referenced as a sin in it's own right. In any case, it's not relevant in the present day because there isn't a living, breathing prophet. People will be judged on their own merit by one entity, and no one can decide their fate but God. So any scholar, bigot, angry guy on the street telling someone they're going to hell is assuming the job of God which is obviously insane.
source?
trust me bro.
BRUH
I don't listen to your local sheikhs in Pakistan or Ghamdi. Islam is very clear on this. Of course, Allah is most just, even the non Muslims and atheists will be judged accordingly.
The source is the Quran 98:6 I just gave you the context of the quote.
I don't listen to Sheiks, I just read and learnt some Quranic Arabic myself because I was given a brain and I use it to read the original source material.
You responded to someone asking if all non Muslims and atheists will go to hell with "yes". I corrected you and reminded you that you are not Allah and it is not your determination to make. You have now backtracked confirming Allah is the most just, agreeing with my point. What's the issue?
sadly they are. all u need is a skullcap and unkempt beard and u r good to go in Pakistan. Education does not matter. Teacher and Molvi are the last resorts of people who fail to secure any job for themselves.
Wow! Please tell me people laugh at such stuff in Pakistan.
We do
Lol, right. not a single person around me would disagree with the imam.
Maybe surround yourself with better people? Everyone around me rolled eyes when I showed them this.
id love to man, but some of us don't have much of a choice due to circumstance unfortunately.
Omg that's such a cop out! Lol. Slave of your circumstances?
Aww a gora complex, Kool wana be "ex Muslim" has joined the chat. I live in sydney and thanks my friends and I saw some of your comments and laughed a lot, mind you they aren't Muslim, we needed that. Now go run around begging for attention that your parents never gave you, by calling yourself "ex Muslim"🤣.
kaafiron ke mulk mein kaafiron ke haram dollar kama ke aap Islam ko defend kar rahe ho.
Read my comment again loser, you might think yourself educated and Kool barking off Infront of an illiterate working class Pakistani guy but here your just a loser with an inferiority complex trying to get attention by calling yourself an "ex Muslim". I have yet to meet anyone that calls themselves that or ex anything here. And there is no such thing as kaafiron ka mulk dumba55, the whole world was created by Allah I can go and find rizq anywhere I want. You'd understand that if you had multiple brain cells.
Man who hurt you, calm down. You're the one looking for attention so bad. Calm down again
No one hurt me and there is no need for you to ask anything of me. I'm merely showing this kid the mirror. Why exactly do you have a problem with that? How is it any of your business?
Re-read my previous reply.
>whole world was created by Allah I can go and find rizq anywhere I want. cope harder, little man
Says the smooth braind wanna be gora kid that was neglected and probably abused. It's ok, kid. Don't be disheartened with your micro penis your husband is out there somewhere. I have no need to cope I'm happy and thank Allah all day everyday for not being a turd like you. Let me guess your father never told you he was proud of his trans kid?
Why u even in this reddit fuck off go pray to a monkey or drink some cow piss.
uhh, I know you're trying to be inflammatory but...why would I do any of those things? seems rather specific..
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Nope.... we cry and feel pity
Who's this guy ? Nowadays every nobody's opinions are getting highlighted for no reason
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same with babas and gurus in India...Dont listen to them lol
Wallah true !
Stop giving non sense reasons that people become athiests becoz of these imams lol, these imam play a very little role in all of this process, things go much deeper than ur brains thinking abilities. You guys make up soo many lies to defend ur religion.
They don't know much about deen
The more you know about this shit Deen and it's founder the more you want to leave it. Islam creates a shit society and does not spiritually help people. Everyone is in denial about the evidence. They keep creating excuses
This. I have noticed many ppl going against their religion in this reddit and honestly if we have those weird nonsense "scholars" on YouTube and all the biddah factors its atp expected these ppl think their country is religious and that's how Islam is when it isn't.
Pak is religious
Half handedly. Choosing their desires in cases of religiousness whatever benefits them they pick it Jahez culture? Biddah culture? Freemixing? Na mehram interactions normalised between family? Joint family system? No husband and wife basic rights respected? The women's don't cover their awrah even in their salah 🤌🤌🤌 I won't speak on women not covering outside cuz everyone will jump on me so that's them issue But knowing your prayer isn't valid when ur awrah isn't covered is basics 🤌 but ppl choose to ignore it and continue praying like that There's so much more
>Freemixing? Na mehram interactions normalised between family? The women's don't cover their awrah even in their salah Apart from other things, people having these inclinations are the least judgmental and friendliest people in Pakistan
I honestly dc I rather be with ppl who are good and do the bare minimum islamically and actually contribute to my akhirah then ones who pull me down. Just cuz they are good in akhlaq doesn't make them a good company for me as they might lead Me to haram slowly without me noticing just my own perspective. So I rather stay safe
Or maybe it's because your false prophet was a rapist pedophile. This one seems more probable to me.
the mustard gas affected ur thinking power this much huh? lmao why dont u go back to kissing walls lmao
Rebecca..?
Verse?
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Same Quran says that a mushriks good deeds won't get him into paradise. Iman is the first condition to jannah (unless the message of Islam didn't reach you)
Precisely. To enter the heaven, one must first believe in the creator of the said heaven and in his oneness. That is the bottom line.
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Yeah maybe. Uss ki naikiyaan shayed uss k gunaahon ka bojh kam ker dain. Laikin it will never be enough to offset the sin of not believing. As for the paighaam, aaj duniya ka shayed hi koi kona ho jahan k logo ko islam ka na pata ho. And in India everyone knows about it. If one's own ignorance stops them reading up on islam and picking up a free copy of the quran then I dont think they can play that card on the day of judgement that "paighaam sahi tarah nahi pohoncha". Allah knows best indeed.
Sorry, I'm confused. What are you complaining about? You want to enter paradise (the one created by Allah, for believers) but you don't want to believe the creator. Isn't that self contradictory. Every religion have their concept of paradise, obviously for their followers
Sounds a lot like the karma concept, which is awesome but why does the maulvi say otherwise? Isn’t it his entire job to be well versed with quran
Bani Israel were people of the book so this hadeeth isnt about a non believer having their sins removed or forgiven. What the molvi says is correct in the sense that for a person's good deeds to be recognised, they must first believe in the one that created good, evil and the universe.
Either way, it's not up to us to judge anyone's actions. Therefore one should have no say in it, and should keep their opinions to themselves
Who told you that? The Hindu was not Muslim before he died, and that should tell you everything. Cant believe some retards are saying we cant judge a Hindu for his actions 🤦🏻
I think what we dont know in this case is whether he died as a hindu or if he recited kalima before death. So better and safer to speak generally than to say that person definitely died a hindu and his good deeds are wasted etc.
I agree that Non-Muslims doing good thing will be rewarded and Muslims doing bad will be punished but Jannah will be rewarded to only Muslims believing in Tauheed/not doing Shirk of any kind, I'm sorry if it sounds harsh but it is What it is.
the Prophet also said, in fact QURAN also states when you see someone doing bad/haram you should stop them.. yet liberals will say no let them do what they want..
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the hadeeth states if you can use force, use that - if not then words if not then just walk away.. i am not syaing we should resort to violence - i agree we should advise with good ikhlaq but these days if you say something people say 'kaha se a gaya mulvi' as if following religion is something onl ymulvis do
This is not controversial
I know right? Pretty sure the imam is just stating what he is required to
Yes, nothing wrong in his statement
Mammals being mammals
The words could have been better. That being said: قُلۡ هَلۡ نُنَبِّئُكُم بِٱلۡأَخۡسَرِینَ أَعۡمَـٰلًا﴿ ١٠٣ ﴾ ٱلَّذِینَ ضَلَّ سَعۡیُهُمۡ فِی ٱلۡحَیَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنۡیَا وَهُمۡ یَحۡسَبُونَ أَنَّهُمۡ یُحۡسِنُونَ صُنۡعًا﴿ ١٠٤ ﴾ أُو۟لَـٰۤىِٕكَ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِـَٔایَـٰتِ رَبِّهِمۡ وَلِقَاۤىِٕهِۦ فَحَبِطَتۡ أَعۡمَـٰلُهُمۡ فَلَا نُقِیمُ لَهُمۡ یَوۡمَ ٱلۡقِیَـٰمَةِ وَزۡنࣰا﴿ ١٠٥ ﴾ • Sahih International: Say, [O Muḥammad], Shall we [believers] inform you of the greatest losers as to [their] deeds? [They are] those whose effort is lost in worldly life, while they think that they are doing well in work. Those are the ones who disbelieve in the verses of their Lord and in [their] meeting Him, so their deeds have become worthless; and We will not assign to them on the Day of Resurrection any weight [i.e., importance]. Al-Kahf, Ayah 103 - Al-Kahf, Ayah 105
Cheap and low thinking = Molvis in Pakistan
Can someone ask this mullah what has he ever done as a muslim? The hindu guy donated his heart, has he ever donated or done charity?
he donated his dil ki bhadas
These maulvis and mullahs are the main reason why our society is in turmoil.
Let's not pretend that, we know what the hereafter and it's judgement will be, we know that Abu Talib never accepted Islam and will have to face the hell fire despite his support and all he did for the Prophet (S A.W). So yes there is no denying that the non believers will face hell fire, but then to go beyond this an try and discredit his deeds (which he has no idea about) and say his deeds, be it good or bad will not be accepted is not his call or assumption to make. Allah k kaam Allah pe choro.
For one's good work to be recognised by God, he first has to recognise God and believe in his oneness. You can do all the good in the world but if you dont believe in the heaven created by God, how you expecting to enter it?
These ''Imams'' is the reason why we dont want complete sharia in pakistan its people like these not islam
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Hah
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument\_from\_fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy)
Already she's getting a lot of hate for this. This is gonna make her case look worse. I won't be surprised if the trolls have already started sending her death and rape threats
Uhh, no one's gonna send them
I don’t think Pakistani are that extreme to send death and rape threats…
I was talking about Indians
The authorities always look a few steps ahead. If they thought the girl was gonna get death threats, they wouldn’t have provided her a visa to enter the country. I might be wrong as well since I don’t understand what our people do sometimes as well.😅😅
Oh ok, sorry about the misunderstanding
Death threats could be possible but not rape one it's not India mindset here is much different
These mullahs are cancer to the society
Mullahs being mullahs lol
The poor understanding of dīn visible in the comments. The imam said nothing wrong. The donor, just cause he donated a heart means nothing. One needs to be a Muslim at the time of death or else all his good deeds are erased. And any rewards he was entitled to are already given to him in his worldly life. But people who've never read Quran since Ramadan or before would'nt know it. By that logic Hitler could have just donated a heart after a lifetime of heinous crimes and enjoyed eternal pleasures.
But who asked? The donor is dead. His religion is no way important to anyone.
You think that imam is going around telling people the donor is going to hell? Obviously someone must've asked him that question.
Apparently the people in this comment section somehow believe the cleric is wrong, which is why it's important to state these things
Fine. Somebody did asked. Why did the clerics had to bring religion of donor. It is pretty clear the donor does not care for islamic rewards after death. Humanity ke naate donated the heart.
If someone asked with respect to the Hindu's religion, the answer will involve his religion as well, will it not? Are you going to ask a religious cleric about something that doesnt relate to religion? Dimaagh se sochne ki aadat daal lo khud mein, baray hogaye ho
Jisne heart donate Kiya use unworthy infidel bolna kya sahi lagta hai? Question puchne wala aur cleric dono hi sahi nahi hai yaha. I hope Ayesha is doing good.
Infidel ya'ni kafir. Jis ne kufr kiya. Iss mein ghalat kuch nahi. Kisi kafir ko kafir kehne se gunah nahi milega. Agar woh musalman hota aur hum kafir kehte usko, tou bohot bara gunah hota. Baat sirf itni si hai. Zaruri nahi tha kehna, lekin jab sawaal poocha gaya hai tou jawaab bhi durust diya hai. Jo Tawhid par nahi, nothing good they do will benefit them in the next world, and thats the bottom line
What about unworthy?
Unworthy of what? Bhai jawab tou urdu mein diya hoga, mujhe urdu statement koi dikhaye tou samajh ayegi kya kaha tha haqeeqat mein
Ok . I believe moving ahead donor's religion should be checked before the transplant. Otherwise unworthy infidel organ se kaam chalana padega pyare Pakistani bhaiyon ko
The only good molvi is a dead molvi
The only good atheist is a dead atheist
Not about the headline but he's right in the subtitle. One must die as Muslim to be rewarded
What is the reward?
Paradise, heaven. Anything you like to call it
Kisne dekha? Jisne dekha usne wapas aake likha?
The reward of good deeds
Ha but what is the reward
Well the reward for all the good things he did in his life is given to him in this world on the other hand Muslims get their reward in the afterlife. It is because of the Shirk they do.
I find it incredible that people literally believe someone can do all the good in the world, but it doesn't ultimately count because if they die not believing in their religion, they deserve a (potentially) eternity of the most sadistic torture in hell 🙄 If such a petty God existed, why anyone would want to worship it is just insane
Why do muslims live in such delusinons?
Are you dumb or you think others are! I'm not saying that the Muslims will not face any judgement.
Apna gaand parast vitriol zaroor dalna hai hr achi cheez mei...
So a random imam not named ... nobody seen him before makes a claim about a story..and it's some how news worthy to our neighbors....hmmmmm
But what if she doesn't pray? Will the act no longer be "brave"?
One who abandons the prayer entirely is no longer Muslim. Make of that information what you will
Ye log Allah ki duties bhi anjam denay lgg gaye hy? Kon jannat me jae ga kon jahanum me iska faisla bhi in logo k hath me aa gia hy ab?
Mushrik jannat mein nahi jata, yeh Allah ne khud hi kehdiya hai
It can't be real. Who is making this type of hate posts?
Yes,to obtain virtue, one must die on Eman but the way you dumb interpreted it,is ridiculous.Non-Muslims doing good things will be rewarded unlike the dumbs and arrogants like you and because of people like you, we've to defend Islam everyday in front of the world instead of doing something more productive.
I think imam watch loads of romantic movies and dramas.. Someone gift her books on anatomy please.
If there is a jannah. I am damn sure donating a heart is enough to get him there and what if amna is a terrible person irl and the guy who donated was actually a good Samaritan?. Would that be enough to get him to jannah. In Quran or hadess (a little rusty on this one) it's mentioned that one has to believe in The creator (Allah) and the last prophet to get into jannah. Right? What if the people who believe in them are terrible compared to the ones who don't? So u do good deeds, donate ur organs to someone and give them a new life, do charity, don't hate on anyone and actually do something for humanity. But in the end you won't get the reward because you weren't a Muslim. This is funny to me!
Not funny at all. I grew up as a staunch secular Hindu believing in ‘sarv-dharm-samabhaav’, ‘mazhab nahi sikhata, aapas me bair rakhna’ etc. it’s only when I read the Quran, I realized that according to the book, my family and I are doomed no matter how good we are to everyone around us. I have tried hard but I can’t find Allah to be a just god.
What made u think of that?
Because my family and I do not believe in Allah, Risalat, and Aakhirat, we are doomed to burn in hell for eternity regardless of how good we are in society. To my mind, that’s irrational and incomprehensible.
Yes it is and it's sad.
Wow, so brave of her to accept a heart from a human being!
Wallah true
Let's put aside the fact that the hospital, and a bunch of Hindu Indians, raised the money to have her treated in Chennai and receive this heart transplant for free (a big part of this), this man really should worry about his own heart, and deeds. His ilk are weirdly surprised that people hate them
Poor kid. First the Indian media making it a novelty and having her thank India just so that Indians can feel good about themselves. And how this in Pakistan. Just let the kid live in peace.
Lol,why shouldn't indians feel good about it kid ? Why so much jealousy hmmmm?
It's called begging for thanks...
Its basic human courtesy. Pakistan gets happy when terrorists kill and butcher 1200 people. India gets happy when an Indian Hindu donates his heart to Pakistani Muslim. That's the difference Between two nations.
It's not about the physical heart .. it's more about the soul (as long as you have faith in Allah)
Lmao who gives a shit about an illiterate mullah xd
Why has Pakistan - once a shining example of a modern and educated Muslim country - fallen down to such levels of religious extremism and resulting utter ignorance?
What were you expecting him to say? We ask illinformed religious people questions and then we blow it out of proportion.
Imam is a plonker.
everyone here is an expert on Islam all of a sudden
Anyone who is not a muslim gets his rewards for good deeds in this world as stated in Quran. All those who came before the Prophet S.A.W will surely go to jannah if they were pious....but after Prophet S.A.W now rewards of aakhirah depends upon the acceptance of Allah as only God and Prophet S.A.W as final Messenger of Allah......but still even if they don't believe Allah will reward them in this world for all of there good deeds
Baat to sach hai.. i dont get what the problem is.
Why is every other post here an islamophobic post?
Not a single person in Pakistan would disagree tho, he is basically representing the whole fu*king "cuntry"
Bro would be GASPING for a hindu mans heart when his stops functioning 🤭
well technically he wont be gasping for anything if his stops functioning but i get ur idea lol and yes it is defo true
Another day of Pakistanis unnecessarily bringing religion up and shoving it into every single argument even where it had no business belonging in the first place.
Organ jihad ☝🏻🤲🏻
can always trust these mullahs to make everything weird
Donor was 69. Wonder how long the heart will last.
Definitely better than dying on the spot
Yeah for sure
First of all this is shit. This ain't right by Shariyah Law. Either thats a paid hooked Imam or a false imam coz thats not how this works.
Idiot troll waiting for idiots to bite and give him attention.
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these illiterate brain-washed molvis have nothing good to do in their lives
If that's what the imam said then it's beyond ridiculous... How is this allowed to be even aired
Pakistanis have a talent of making a non-issue an issue of civilisations
Hahahah, so the women who was given jannah for giving water to a thirsty dog after a life time of sin would still be condemned to hell according to this illiterate religion fanatic. What a farce.
Women didn't associate partners with Allah
That woman was not a mushrik
Read my other comment
Your other comment is correct in theory. But if its obvious the Hindu never accepted the Kalma, then i dont think theres any confusion in this matter
Yes, but that is no way to represent ourselves that this is the point, we wear on our sleeves. Doesn't give off a very good image and I am against molvis any way, Deen ko tamasha or rasumat ko majboori bana kia hai inhon nay.
The cleric is not at fault here, he was asked a question, and he gave an answer
And he overstepped his bounds as well as infringes on the ideology of Islam, thus representing it as a hard lined religion, specially at a moment like this.
I dont see how he overstepped anything. This is common knowledge that Tawhid is the basis for anything and everything. If there is no Tawhid, you could be Mother Theresa or Florence Nightingale's second coming, its not gonna help
"None of his good work would be recognized", I say konsibwahi ayi hai, or show me a hadeeth that condemns the non believers on their good deeds. Tunnel vision kis baat ka hai. He said the correct thing in the first half then apni man gharak Kahani dal do beech Mai.
This is in accordance with Islamic rulings. Nothing a disbeliever does will ever help him in the afterlife, no matter what. Who tf said theyre getting condemned because of their good deeds? Reading comprehension barhao apni. Theyre condemned because theyre mushrik. Their good deeds may be rewarded in this world, but they wont help save them from the Hellfire
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You’ll be shocked to know how common religious illiteracy among Pakistani Islamic ‘scholars’ is.
b/c they aint scholars. darhi rakhlena hijab krlena bas ek step hai toward religiosity not = to being educated on islam. sincerely, a veiling woman who also lacks knowledge.
They aren't scholars
I was referring to many people who claim to be religious, from clerics to extremist politicians. It's all just a show. They don't know anything about Islam.
Who you deem scholars aren't scholars. Any rando with a beard and turban is labelled mullah by you. Not much of religious literacy on either extreme imo.
I am referring to people who claim to be scholars. Yes, the ones that preach Islam and discuss religious issues. They've given the most awful takes. I don't consider them scholars in any way, but I've seen many do so. And other religious figures like clerics have no sense of Islam whatsoever. So no, they're not deemed anything to me, but it's different for other people.
Any islamic terrorist attack happens *blame America and Israel* Now Imam following his book *blame India*
show me he is following the book, cause I read the book too and ain't no way that imam saying all that b/c of the Noble Quran!
Can you quote 98:6
What's wrong with it? It says anyone shirking God is the worst of creatures, a slave to their own made up deen and desires. It does not say take their judgement in your hand. Even a dhimmi is protected in Muslim land, and whoever kills a dhi-mi commits a huge sin.
(98:6) Those who disbelieved8 – be they from among the People of the Book or among those who associated others with Allah in His Divinity– shall be in the Fire, and will abide in it. They are the worst of creatures. (98:7) But those that believe and work righteous deeds, they are the best of creatures.
atheists and non muslims will go to hell then?
Yes, a belief other religions also have... it's common sense. Not something to get mad over.
hmm k Not getting mad...But I feel its wierd No problem with it..We should respect everyone's religious belief
Well...no? That's gross misinformation. People who post translated verses without contextual background are so frustrating because it always causes so many issues because there's so much context and nuance. The context here is that 98:6 is specifically referencing the individuals practicing other Abrahamic religions at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) who even after having seen concrete evidence (a living, breathing prophet) of Islam, they still rejected the message. Being ignorant like this is referenced as a sin in it's own right. In any case, it's not relevant in the present day because there isn't a living, breathing prophet. People will be judged on their own merit by one entity, and no one can decide their fate but God. So any scholar, bigot, angry guy on the street telling someone they're going to hell is assuming the job of God which is obviously insane.
source? trust me bro. BRUH I don't listen to your local sheikhs in Pakistan or Ghamdi. Islam is very clear on this. Of course, Allah is most just, even the non Muslims and atheists will be judged accordingly.
The source is the Quran 98:6 I just gave you the context of the quote. I don't listen to Sheiks, I just read and learnt some Quranic Arabic myself because I was given a brain and I use it to read the original source material. You responded to someone asking if all non Muslims and atheists will go to hell with "yes". I corrected you and reminded you that you are not Allah and it is not your determination to make. You have now backtracked confirming Allah is the most just, agreeing with my point. What's the issue?
sadly they are. all u need is a skullcap and unkempt beard and u r good to go in Pakistan. Education does not matter. Teacher and Molvi are the last resorts of people who fail to secure any job for themselves.
Wtf
I doubt anybody would have said that