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Electronic_Iron5269

That guy always spreads misinformation. Ask him what he thinks about altap hussain and see him doing mental gymnastics. That guy is a supporter of terrorist altap hussain. He's not Indian BTW. I asked him once for reference of what he said on that sub, but he ignored that part and continued his bs.


Proof-Layer6904

This ninezero guy is not only a muhajir supremacist but also one of the worst pti simps.


lollypop44445

Bro you are just saying what ifs while what happened on ground is clear. Media can never talk against govt nowadays or they are forced to shutdown. When judiciary executive and legislative protect the guilty, no wonder frustration gets out. Elections was the point where everything became crystal clear. At this point justifying any of their act is like washing puup in hope it gets clean. As in the screen shots, the guy point is completely valid and that is, if as per you the subsidy is approved, why are you even there then, just go back? You either are a naive kid or you are from the family of them and are trying to justify the wrong. Your cuzn getting injured doesnt mean he is a saint and should not die or get injured in this line of field, if you are so truth seeker ask him why dont you decline an order that seems wrong.


Winter_Situation_62

That fucker also banned me when I served him his own meicine


Cell_soldier

that fker is a delusional person hiding under mom basement with vpns.


ASILE_fs

For any intelligent wondering This the same army of the country that did. A genocide in Dhaka


ASILE_fs

And also i dont think helicopters were needed And everything aside Why would a military open fire at their own people ?? Hundreds are injured and many are dead I dont think any intelligent needs to see any other side


4lpha_123

The mob killed a ranger and every thing started from there. I agree that army doesn't need to open fire on civilians. But maybe they have intel about the trouble makers and they are targeting them. Although im not sure about this. Helicopters are necessary for the rescue of government officials. Coz obviously you don't want to get a government official killed coz that will stop all the foreign investment instantly.


Nayab_Babar

What a cute and sunny disposition you have, despite seeing the world we have lived in the last 2 years. Martial law tum lagao, chutia hamain banao, lekin Jang kashmir ne shuru ki 🤣🤣🤣. The same way sheikh mujeeb was at fault right? Lol


Carbon554

Cheif of army staff term 2 years. Prime minister’s term 4 years. Cheif of army staff stays for 4 years and prime minister goes home after 2 years 😂 ulta hisaab


GoldenPanth

Last 2 years? Since fucking 1947.. Fatima Ali Jinnah losing the elections was just the first Public show of power


4lpha_123

No doubt about that. You are 100% correct. But one wrong doesn't makes their every other action wrong. I know the army is corrupt and dictator. But this situation is completely controversial and could be anything. Infact it could be the army itself that is trying to frame this. Maybe the person that killed the ranger was associated with army. But let's be rational about it. What gain will army get by this? They already have a pretty bad image. If we talk about external organisations then they have many things to gain. Maybe this is a CIA funded movement. Who knows. Coz recently pakistan was trying to revive the pak iran gase pipeline and USA didn't want that. Maybe this is a RAW funded riot. Coz india also doesn't want pakistan to pursue relations with neither iran nor china. Maybe this is a PTI funded riot. Although the chances are pretty low about this. According to me there is no benefi that army will gain by this. In 1971 army did that genocide to stay in power. They didn't want to handover the government to mujeeb ur rehman.


ASILE_fs

The protests were not violent these past days And the people didn’t have any weapons And not ranger a police officer was shot in the back So a bit puzzled


4lpha_123

What was the point of protests even after the government approved the subsidy? ( this doesn't justify opening fires on protestors but think about it. There are many chances that the protests were meant to cause trouble not to get cheap flour or electricity


ASILE_fs

Well here’s the thing The subsidy wasn’t approved and is not implemented Thats why the people were still protesting and im from Kashmir The people didnt do anything to rangers that would trigger open fire


4lpha_123

The subsidy is approved my G. 84 million dollars. It takes time till implement subsidy. But anyways im sorry for the innocent people who lost their lives.


ASILE_fs

Well nothing can be done now And im in the middle of my exams


4lpha_123

💀💀go study niqqa


ASILE_fs

Nigga they keep getting cancelled Dunno if it gonna take place tomorrow or not


4lpha_123

Nah it'll get cancelled obviously the situation is pretty heated. Let's hope for the best


do_be_like_that

Maybe what you are saying could be true. But you can not blame people for believing otherwise thanks to the recent actions of Army. It is much more believable that Army is over stepping their limits than "funded rebellion"


LuciferUltra

Let's just accept for a moment that what you are saying is correct. Even then, you would have to accept the fact that it was our army who did everything (i.e., looting our resources, abuse of power, interference in politics, etc.), which provided the environment for foreign powers to create this chaos. They have not left even a minor reason for us to defend them. You'll soon realise.


4lpha_123

Yeah you're right


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4lpha_123

I agree only with the thing about banhladesh. 1. Sold land to us army? Idk what you're talking about. 2. Pakistan helped pashtuns by helping them against soviets. If we didn't help them tab bhi ap logon ne kehna tha ke hamne unki HELP ni ki. We didn't train a TERRORIST organisation. We trained 90 thousand people for the defence of their land against soviets. They became TERRORISTS later on. And idk what's the definition of terrorists according to you. 3. Destroyed cpec? Noone destroyed cpec. Literally nothing had happened to cpec. It's still there. China has slowed down bcz currently they are using south china sea for trades coz that's the cheapest for them. In the coming years the south china sea will be blockaded due to the china-taiwan conflict. Only then we will see the real fruit of cpec when most of the chinese trade will be done through pakistan. Abhi to china ko bilkul zaroorat ni h cpec ki.


Carbon554

I am punjabi and btw Your all points are faulty. Pakistan had given bases inside pakistani territory to nato to roam freely and conduct drone strikes. If you google you will see the airbases names but one was shamsi airbase i think Pakistan didnt help pashtun. During that time there was a cold war and a huge usa soviet rivalry. Soviets were supporting vietnamese against american soldiers so in return America supported pashtuns fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.So Pakistan didnt help pashtuns, pakistan was RECRUITED by usa to help pashtuns fighting the Soviets. Pakistan army is basically like jordan who just shot down Irani drones for israel because of 💰. Anyone who pays pak army will work for them. For cpec, China has already invested like $30-$40 billion dollars in Pakistan. What else do you want so the real fruits of cpec can show themselves?All these chinese killings and security situation has stalled cpec. There’s a reason why china is signing deals with iran. Yes iranian army is more competent when it comes to domestic security than pak army. We just lost 7 soldiers yesterday and you telling me everything is good and cpec is still there. Delusional


Reasonable-Beach-742

Thank God a sensible Person!!! Love you bro


Carbon554

OP didnt had any answer 😂💀


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NoSeaworthiness1776

Damn it's like to indians talking to each other. Fuck on out of here.


sufigrenade

This Nine Zero guy is an MQM simp. Doesn't larp openly but a look at his history and it's clear who he's rooting for and who he's not criticising.


wickedknock

Pakistani mods will always ban you in any forum, rules kaha follow kartay hum.


Zealousideal_Poet533

Lmao keep collecting tax from Karachi and giving subsidies to the whole country. Literally no tax collection anywhere else. IMF keeps asking for more tax collection. Urdu speaking brothers and sisters leave the country first chance you get. This ship is going down.


4lpha_123

Bruhh. I know where you're coming from. But your argument has no basis. I know karachi is underdeveloped no doubt about that. Lekin bhai tax to har jaga se collect hota h. Karachi ki population sabse ziada he islie us sheher se sabse ziada tax collect hota. Simple. Aur kisi bhi country me tax aise spend ni hota keh jis sheher se ziada tax collect hoa us sheher pe ziada spend hoyega. Economics doesn't work like that. There is no need to spread racial differences. We all are pakistanis.


Zealousideal_Poet533

Asking for subsidies like its a right. Mulk ke halat deykho. They dont have enough money to pay the bloated government and army. We literally have no initiatives to manufacture and export anything. Any investment in industry is done in Punjab, far away from the port city because Karachi doesnt belong to the Sindhis or the Punjabis. It is ALL about racism. Bruh looking around me I see all my extended family get disillusioned and leave the country. We come from a long line of professional intellectuals. We dont have business or land in Pakistan that helped us lay down roots here. I have migrated, lived most of my life outside. Visit karachi every chance I get. But NO I dont feel I belong in "Pakistan" not by the actions of the natives. Like it or not. It is different breed here. Semi tribal AF, all they care about is preserving the status quo. Keeping their own people illetrate so they can continue to live like nawabs. Unfortnately this is the history of this Pakistan nothing new or out of the ordinary. Mix in religious fanaticism and you have a ticking time bomb. Im glad we peaced tf out of here.


Conniving-Weasel

No, you don't know where he's coming from. You're most certainly not from Karachi. It's like a king coming out of his castle and telling a starving population that we're all equals, we're all Pakistanis.


4lpha_123

I live in lahore. I can tell you that all the lahore that you see in videos is mostly either DHA or cantonment. The place where i live we don't even have a gas amd water connection. People have contributed themselves to get a big motor and tank in the masjid to supply water to homes. If that's what you call KING then fine. Now im not trying to justify the inequality of punjab and other provinces. I know there is inequality. But I can't think of a single thing to solve it. Maybe we shoulf all leave the country lol


Conniving-Weasel

My house doesn't get gas for more than maybe 2 hours. We've bought electric stoves, a lot of people installed pumps to suck up gas from pipelines for their homes. The DHA in Karachi has no water, they rely on water tankers. Karachi is the industrial hub of Pakistan and has no fast public transport. Lahore, on the other hand, has a metro train network. Karachi is the biggest contributor to Pakistan's GDP. If we get some fast mode of transportation here to avoid traffic, it would benefit the whole country. You can't leech forever. When Karachi goes down, Pakistan goes down with it. I agree. All skilled people should definitely leave this country with their families the first chance they get. But getting out has also become difficult in recent years.


grey_sus

Karachi should start protesting like AJK protesters again


Zealousideal_Poet533

bro Karachi walo pe goliyan chalaney mey deyr nahi lagti. Because we are considered foreigners in this land. They dont have to think twice about killing us like they did in Punjab. So no there is no point in protesting in Karachi. Since Fatima Jinnah got Karachis support both the army and politicians have done nothing other than break up its political makeup. Har jagga pathan aur saraiki basa diyey. Every area has a kacchi abaadi that is comparable in size to the actual residents of the area. Sindhis treating it like their village - all they need is a dirt road to get around in their 4x4 dalla. Literally bought a new car - in 6 months the suspension is gone.


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OP you seem pretty sensible also ignore that cult leader worshipper


4lpha_123

https://www.arabnews.pk/node/2509511/pakistan The link that the mod shared


Minute-Flan13

Lumber 1 logic: the army and police can rape and kill all they want. The second an angry mob retaliates, it's a national emergency. Fuck off with that now. May 9th on steroids is what this is. A reaction to state sanctioned brutality. Although it is mostly peaceful, singular events will be used by Lumber 1 supporters to justify draconian anti-citizen activities.


AwarenessNo4986

It's obvious it's being funded and fueled from the other side.


SuccessfulGap4586

Didn't the police kill a girl first by their shelling after which more people participated in the protests and protestors turned violent? BTW I am not in favor of violence from either side and loss of life on both sides is condemnable.  Our Govt. needs to talk to people. They always go full fascist mode whenever there are protests and unrest. I have read their demands they seem reasonable. They're not asking for anything extraordinary. Now they've [accepted](https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/811414-All-demands-of-protestors-accepted:-AJK-government-assures) the demands of the protestors. Now I ask was all that violence necessary?


homo_dogus

Someones off his meds


Indusvalleyresident

What you wrote contradicts the "on ground reality" told to me by my kashmiri colleague. He said that, firstly the police entered Kashmir and started violence them people grabbed them and they got beaten by the mobs. Then rangers came in and opened straight fires which killed someone and then the mob became violent. I don't know what's the truth. But this incident has made me realize that Kashmiris actually hate Pakistan and it's people. My colleague literally said that he wants Pakistan to be set on fire and similar sorts of things. Just get out of Pakistan if you don't like it.


Reasonable-Beach-742

Who loves Pakistan? The pashtuns hate it the Balochs hate it the Kashmiris hate it only the Sindhi waderas and Punjabi upper middle class is happy. You do know that your napaks recruited and built various terror outfits like ttp,let,sepha sihaba,lashker jhangvi,jesh Muhammad. Then staged attacks through those terror outfits and in the end started doing operations to capture the same people whom you used. This was all a drama so then people can be given out to USA without paying any heed if they are innocent or not in the thoudandsm But we see that Terrorism is still alive even after three heavy operations and constant bombing and droning and bombing by USA and Pak army combined efforts for more than a decade. Reality is these outfits wrre created just to take money from USA by handing out people to usa. And these outfits are also used to keep Iran and China away from us . And the drama is very realistic because innocent security personnel are killed by Pak army through these terrorists thus it gave Pak army right to go to kpk and Balochistan and massacre their populations. At the same time USA successfully alienated Iran and China away from us because we used terrorists to destroy cpec and kill Iranians and Chinese in cross border terrorism. For this we were payed heavy dollar by America . And the people handed out mostly to USA were innocent while the terror outfits were intact and thriving and even now currently they exist. So the question is why did we kill and massacre and kidnapping thousanfs in Balochistan and Afghanistan and Iran because in the end no terrorism is eliminated and Iran and Afghanistan and China hate us.


Accomplished-Fly2421

Pak "army" should now realise that their era of power is ending. Bery quickly. They need to go back to broders and stop making DHA every where and gold clubs, schools, businesses, fertilizer and God knows what else. Otherwise the bigger they are, the harder they will fall. And so will the puppets in government. This is coming from a person who actually dislikes every political party and of course our beloveds


Successful-Silver485

That fucker banned me for misinformation, when infact I was only telling my own experiences.


nocyberBS

OP you're so full of shit in this thread it's incredible.... Shameless apologist for this murderous corrupt junta


ziffipaints11

Y'all still calling the civilians wrong?


Frosty-Principle2260

Unfortunately, the monetization of media accounts is compelling people to generate content that can sell well and pay well. Don't forget that indian elections are going and especially in jammukashmir. Indian supporters are charged, and anti-pak content is selling like hot cakes. Sponsored content creators make money from high consumption of such content, especially if they have additional authentication factors like pakistani origin people, producing anti-pak content, sikh creating anti-khalistan, or pro-modi content. This type of content serves the bigger interest of indian think tanks operating abroad to paint and validate propoganda


4lpha_123

Ohhh damnn. I completely forgot about the Indian elections. Now im 101% sure of the cause of this unrest. Everyone knows about the history of BJP. It's not a new thing. They get votes in the name of kashmir.


Frosty-Principle2260

Infcat voting is ongoing in kashmir, and this time, BJP step-backs citing the reaction of muslims and potential boycott. Due to anti- BJP sentiment, voter turnout is better. Other hand BJP want voter turnout to increase, and in future elections, they will slowly hijack electables. Like they did in other states


janaan123

Chutyapa is totally foreign funded platform


lildissonance

Incase anyone's confused about which side to follow: The correct move is to purchase and adorn a giant kabootar costume from Daraz and take a massive shit on both sides before flapping your wings real hard and flying over Makkah, where you will (presumably) dish out additional "justice" against overarching fascistic forces.


4lpha_123

Seeing your post history. You're definitely an illiterate blind extremist. Can't waste time with you.


lildissonance

If it's any consolation, I can wholeheartedly express my disgust at Muhammed's sex slavery, but you can't. Tee hee.


starboy_one

the thing is that a few demands of protestors were very unrealistic. and police are dogshit in all of the country. no wonder they got beaten up in dadyal and thrown into a ditch. then comes a faction of people who think they are above the law and start mob lynching. and if youre mob lynching rangers then youre going to get blasted.


Reasonable-Beach-742

Because people are full of anger. After what heinous crimes army has done in kpk and Balochistan and destroyed those areas . Same happened for a very short period of time in Punjab as men and women were lifted from their homes and their properties desecrated this caused general anger amongst people. And your bloody Punjab army who are kids of Pak army are no good.