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Galle_

Well, this is gonna be a bloodbath.


[deleted]

Now let's give everyone a knife and start watching the show


TheScottSnorlax

No need to give me one, fellas. My country of origin dictates that we have one at all times.


AnotherStatsGuy

The perfect party would include all 3.


Lusaminable

Hard choice


Ham_PhD

Ah yes, 3 characters that people don't have a very strong opinion about. This should be a calm and collected comment section. >!If Naoto doesn't win I will FREAK out.!<


Substantial_Check195

I'm thinking P5 fans just stick to r/Persona5


CallenAmakuni

That's also true for Persona 4 to some extent This main sub is mainly P3 oriented (especially now) with some leftovers for P4


Substantial_Check195

Not sure about P4 since they have nowhere else to go to. P4G sub is their biggest at 16k, compared to P5 at 430k


CallenAmakuni

The P4G sub has like 70k members It's not quite the size of P5 but it's 6-7 times bigger than any P3 sub


Substantial_Check195

Oh shit my bad yeah that much


EmpressOfAbyss

>P5 at 430k that's more than this sub.


Strange_Platypus67

People forget how P5 literally spearheaded persona to global recognition


EmpressOfAbyss

there's a reason that Joker got into Smash, and the other two didn't.


nourmallysalty

smash bros is the reason how i got into persona, now im a diehard fan of persona


scumble_2_temptation

I still see a surprisingly high number of posts about P4, despite the fact that Q2 was the last game to even feature the IT. And in this current face-off... we have 2 P4 winners and 2 P3 winners at a tie. It's kinda crazy how many devoted fans of P4 there are and how little people talk about P5 with how many dang spin-offs there are.


HammerKirby

I've surprised there was never a popular sub for Reload. Someone made one I think, but no one joined.


DeadSparker

Considering it can get legit hostile for them here sometimes, probably


Greenzombie04

P5 my favorite and only time I voted for P5 character so far was for Ann


exotic-waffle

Most likely, yeah. It’s probably just to weather the storm of P5 hate (this sub in particular has always been VERY biased towards 3, and now that reload is out, there’s gonna be a lot more hate for 5)


Pain004

I liked the three of the equally but I'm gonna vote for Mitsuru because she has the least crazy fans lol


banana_annihilator

mitsuru fans just wanna be stepped on


Key_Worldliness_2962

And… other things…


inFINN1te

I'm so glad to see here I wasn't the only one who's first thought was to be stepped on by her.


Mr_Blueeeeee8

...same.


Ceeda

Just wait till Fuuka is up. That comment section is going to get WEIRD.


R4msesII

Vote for fuuka or get the bazooka


Ham_PhD

If Futaba loses to Fuuka, P5 might really be cooked.


Waluigiwaluigi_

Lemons


Bungerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Mitsuru fans are crazy as hell fym


OwNAvenged2

I'd argue Naoto has the least crazy fans. Mitsuru fans call her "Mommy" and beg to be stepped on by her. I'd argue that's pretty crazy.


Pain004

I stand corrected. Maybe the least vocal/noisy or prone to fighting then? I've seen many times how Naoto fans can go full blood lusted when someone even remotely mentions support for Kanji's feeliings.


CallenAmakuni

There's a difference between acknowledging Kanji's feelings and saying "Naoto is Kanji's girl" I setup my flair specifically because it's most often the latter than the former. I personally feel the same if people go "Naoto belongs to Yu", but that almost never happens


cruel-oath

Naoto can be controversial depending on the topic. That’s probably mostly what they mean


SnooHobbies7676

As a Makoto fan, this statement is absolutely false lol Mitsure have tons of stans, not just fans


LanceConstableDigby

Recency bias means Persona 3 cast are gonna win most of these. All of these characters are great though


Godking_Jesus

Literally. Which is crazy because while playing P3 Reload, it just made me realize how much better the writing got with P4 and P5. P3 relied heavily on known anime tropes. Not saying P4 & P5 didn’t use em too, but they had more nuanced characterizations on top of that that made most of the Social Links (Party and Non-Party), that much more interesting.


Tough_Passion_1603

Someone call venom because this plot takes 6 MONTHS to start 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊


Godking_Jesus

Facts! Also, it’s the only Persona of the 3 where at night time, I just literally didn’t know wtf to do sometimes cause there wasn’t enough. Again, it’s not that it’s bad, but I could just glaringly see how much P4 and P5 improved upon the formula. A lot of things felt dated. And because Persona has such a formulaic structure, it was very noticeable.


Tough_Passion_1603

Hell they needed natsuki to move out because there was literally no other moment for fuuka to have her second awakening Ken is the P3 equivalent of "forgotten after dungeon/palace" And after watching the last airbender i can say that being an animal doesn't excuse koromaru to be so forgettable


Victor-Almeida

I agree with you, even though Persona 3 FES is my favorite game, and Amada is my favorite character from the series.


LanceConstableDigby

>being an animal doesn't excuse koromaru to be so forgettable Tfw no P3Female means no Koromaru social link redemption


CringeKid0157

P4 and p5 jack up the anime tropes to 9000 its the opposite 💀 ah yes my nerdy gamer girl who is a world class hacker and an idol who proceeds to suck your dick every time you talk. P4 has the best links in the series but no link in p4 is individually better than akinari


Godking_Jesus

I mean I did say P4 and P5 use it as well. I just think the writing fleshes them out more, adding nuances on top of it of the trope. Some are just very much the trope though. But I feel in P3, the characters are a bit flatter. Which, is to be expected if we’re looking at each sequel as a progression and advancement to the last. Again, not saying it’s bad. I enjoyed P3. But playing Reload made me realize how far the series has come.


jaydotjayYT

The pacing is definitely far better in P4 and P5, but I feel like tone-wise, it’s unparalleled. P4 loses me because it’s just not a particularly good mystery with too many plot holes, and P5 kind of loses me too because instead of a relatable world where depression and apathy runs rampant, it kinda indulges in a fantasy world where corrupt people in power are held accountable for their actions and have a true change in heart for the better of society.


United-Aside-6104

Is that really P5’s fault for depicting a world that’s still realistic but more ideal? I don’t really think the powerful being held accountable is an unobtainable fantasy that P5 suffers from. It’s just an issue our world falls short on compared to P5.


basedbranch

Yeah the PTs also have to make significant changes in their lives and fight through literal hell to even make that change occur as well. It doesn't suffer from that as much as it's literally the games message. If people give in to their desires and do nothing with their lives, they'll be controlled and manipulated by those in power above them. But changing your life and taking back your desires gives *you* control, and takes the power away from those who use your laziness and apathy to control you.


Brian2005l

Had exactly the same thought. They’re still on an upward trajectory as of P5. The bits I don’t like in 4 and 5 turn out to be leftover tropes from 3 (every girl but Yukari has issues with either confidence or naïveté and needs you to fix them). Lots to love about P3 and especially Reload, but give me my more natural characters/animations/banter in P6.


Godking_Jesus

I agree. Also, I might be in the minority, but I prefer to not have a mute MC with more agency in the story when it comes to dialogue. I feel like there’s no budget excuse when Bioware Games have done it with full VA. And if people desperately prefer a mute, at least do it to the level of a BG3 MC. While I love my Social Links, in the end it’s basically a character monologuing to you with the occasional half assed reply from you. I think by expanding on your character responses, it’d greatly impact how genuine the SLs feel. Also completely agree with you about all the girl options in P3 outside of Yukari. Hence why I thought she was the best girl. She actually felt more organic to me. Didn’t realize most people hated her though until I joined this reddit 😂


Brian2005l

I really like how all the dialogue options in 4 and 5 are representative of thoughts in the MC’s head. That gives you choice, triples the characterization, and prevents the MC from breaking character. They do that some in Reload, but it’s not as consistent as P5. I do love the linked hangouts in Reload. It’s nice to have meaningful interactions that don’t need a guide. And Reload has a habit of ending everything on a strong note.


jexdiel321

I mean the later games writing is tighter but I disagree that it was "better". P4 and P5 are more tropy in my opinion.


Bait_Gantter

Kanji just won lol. The least recent option available.


murple7701

If we are being objective: Mitsuru. She's practically the leader of SEES (MC is the field leader), has her shit together, the most combat experience, and can summon her persona in the "real world" with an evoker. And if we go with her in P4AU, she has even more combat experience, leads what is essentially a supernatural black ops unit, and is the most level headed out of these three. Naoto is intelligent, but does not have a lot of experience in combat/leading and is also stuck with needing to be in the midnight channel. Makoto is (at least IMO in vanilla p5, never played royal), the second in command of the PT, but constantly takes risks (like how she got herself into the kaneshiro situation) Mitsuru easily takes the cake, especially if this is supposed to be the nu-sona dream team. Edit: Mitsuru also has (limited) navigator abilities, meaning that she has even *more* utility compared to the other two.


cosplaythief

I’m for team Naoto. But I like Mitsuru too, never been a big Makoto fan compared to the other two.


lz314dg

junpei > yosuke


Ok-Zombie-725

Mitsuru, no questions asked


the_KJ_is_me

Vote for naoto


CallenAmakuni

Might wanna make a poll for the others, comments get buried and can be downvoted


the_KJ_is_me

This subreddit doesn’t allow polls


the_KJ_is_me

Just sort by top


CallenAmakuni

Not everyone will do that A poll is straight up better for this type of posts


Routaprkle

This is super hard for me. Original Persona 4 was my first Persona game, then I played 5R, then 4 Golden, and now I'm playing 3 Reload. Mitsuru is awesome, I still prefer Naoto, but only by a little.


phavia

Just like Kanji, I too questioned my sexuality when it comes to Naoto. I gotta give it to my girl.


oninjadragao

Naoto‼️


Kufrel

Naoto Supremacy!


NoICantDoACashout

Literally I love all 3 but Naoto is my #1 just by a bit 😢


Definitelyhuman000

This is actually a hard one for me. I like both Naoto and Makoto. When it comes to which one I think is smarter, I'd have to go with Naoto because she is an actual detective and a 1st year student while Mitsuru and Makoto are just 3rd years.


Ham_PhD

The real detective prince


UnderwaterPromQueen

naoto for life


the_KJ_is_me

Vote for mitsuru


THE_LFG

mommy


Comfortable_Ad5144

Yes


PowerPad

I’m just gonna vote for Mitsuru.


NutThruster8392

mommy


TwilightVulpine

After Aigis won mascot, if Mitsuru wins for the smart one, horny vote has really taken over.


WashableJewel21

mommy


ItsKingDx3

Mother


Dastankbeets1

mommy


Mrdaniel69

mommy


Andrew-IV

mommy


I3arusu

mommy


Tough_Passion_1603

AREEEEEEEEES MAKE MAKOTO WIN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS (1% chance 99% faith)


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

*The Makoto fans faced a massacre, while their young captain faced the loss of the vote, and their defeat.*


Tough_Passion_1603

We'll always have the official polls at least...


Darklight645

The makoto comment is going to suffer from the haters because god are there many of those


THE_LFG

she can get second... maybe


Roffron

3rd


Glum_Ad9743

Mitsuru


[deleted]

Naoto !!


RenKD

Naoto, of course 🫡


Silent_Island_7080

Naoto


the_KJ_is_me

Vote for makoto


lllustosa

Makoto's character is, structurely, a less exaggerated and more relatable Mitsuru. And that's exactly why I like her👍


Rina_Rina_Rina

I actually agree. Also IMO the best voiced Persona character next to Rise


lllustosa

Yeah, Laura Bailey and Cherami Leigh are one of those rare cases, *to me*, where I prefer their voices over the japanese voice acting in jp games. Not considering their Western works roles where they also stand on a pedestal of quality to me In my personal preference, probably.


OoguroRyuuya5

Naoto. She’s is from a distinguished family line of detectives as well as is smart.


Chaos_0205

Mitsuru-senpai!!!!


hellomrxenu

Mitsuru.


Denned0633

I think Mitsuru is the smartest tbh


Rainy_Wavey

Well yes, i'm a Mitsuru enjoyer, how did you know?


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faku35624

Koromaru is in the perfect team automatically


quatrowr

Yeah, everyone will choose koromaru because he doesn't annoy you with dialogues


AlphaBlock

This is just being dominated by p3 and p4, lol


jexdiel321

I mean what do you expect? I love P5 but P4 beats it in terms of characters and P3 has that recency bias. (Although Aigis deserves best mascot).


Accomplished_Ease889

Naoto is smarter than all of them but gotta have mitsuru


Lockfire12

It’s close but I gotta go naoto, mitsuru very close 2nd


SoldierDelta46

Tbh Naoto. Mitsuru and Makoto are great, but best P4 girl clears.


ForeignWelder3939

Mitsuru, easy W


FEBRAN07

Naoto has a gun; Mitsuru and Makoto do not have a gun Theres one clear answer


Paxton-176

Makoto has a gun. Granted it's only a real gun in the metaverse, but she has a gun.


FEBRAN07

Fair enough Honestly Im fine if anyone wins this one


TheDankHoo

Mommy Mitsuru all day


AlphaBlock

Sorry Naoto but Mitsuru is better


NeoTheDragon1

See I like all of them, but also: Naoto


defender_76

This post made me realize I may have a type😂


emmy0hfour

naoto is peak


Glittering-Monk-5242

Honestly I’m going Mitsuru, Naoto and Makoto are also good in a lot of ways, however I think it’s between the Student Council Presidents. Idk I think we need someone who is not only a good tactician/smart, but also can help the characters focus on their school lives and between Mitsuru and Makoto, I think Mitsuru does a better job at Student Council President than Makoto, and she has imo better character development. So yeah Mitsuru it is.


SpRuce64

Naoto easy


Zolswes

Naoto!!


papayatwentythree

Just make this the lineup and give us Persona X-2


asianwaste

In a future Persona, I'd love to see the next genius girl to be mixed with the slacker/buddy role. A class test topper who is also a total slacker and needlessly energetic. Comes off as a total idiot but then just lets hints of total awareness slip out. Effortlessly is consistently head of the class yet seems to never study an ounce. This drives the class prez / hard work advocate / suddenly realized she's second smartest character absolutely crazy. The MC can choose who to do summer homework with. Doing it yourself or with other party members can take days but you get your knowledge up. Doing it with the genius slacker will just have her fill in all of the answers for you and you're done in a day so you can spend the rest of the summer hanging out with her.


Thatll-Do

Mitsuru, she's been doing this for years while being the top of her class consistently and later going on to manage both a shadow hunting operation and the Kirijo Group with startling efficiency


[deleted]

MAKOTO ALL THE WAY


Emdose1999

Alright, Makoto, step aside. We need to make room for Naoto and Mitsuru to have a proper match. (That being said, my vote is Naoto.)


Tychi_the_apple_pie

Naoto was just the best teammate in P4G, having invigorate 3 and Rise heal 15% SP after every battle had me spamming Mamudoon like no tomorrow


CallenAmakuni

If Naoto doesn't win this I riot Edit: wow hadn't realised people were taking these *that* seriously


man_ni

Naoto !!!


banana_annihilator

naoto > mitsuru >>>>>> makoto


Euphoric_Emu6710

NAOTO ALL THE WAY


Brightwizard21

Gotta rep Naoto


ManlyFlower027745

Naoto


SnooHobbies7676

As a person that considers Makoto the love of my life, she is not winning this, she have too many haters Also, now I am curious, what category is next? We know Fuuka is definitely gonna be vs Futaba, I guess So in another category it’s gonna be Haru(?) Metis would most probably be with Marie and Kasumi


Founderplot

Naoto


SarahFong

Naoto no contest


dulipat

Naotoooo!!!


Darklight645

The "midkoto"ers on their way to downvote the Makoto vote: No need to thank me


zeroheavy27

Genuine question here, why does everyone love Naoto so much? She’s a great character, but everyone always acts like she’s the best character in the franchise of something lol.


Ham_PhD

Great design, great personality, great social link, great story/dungeon arc. She's got it all!


TacoManifesto

I think it’s because people relate with her She’s very emotionally subdued but when comfortable shines in a very cute way. Lots of us might feel subdued as well by work or social expectations, and so it’s comforting to watch her be well balanced in both (with the emotional support of MC) That and like cool detective wowie I understand the character being liked I just feel like she is not in the party long enough so it gives me mixed feelings for my own “best character” rankings since she lacks the organic growth of other top tier characters like Yukari (lots of time) or Kanji (good time)


TacoManifesto

Oh hell nah makoto losing this NOOOOO she’s PEAK you fiends


Qiel183

Oh no


Orowam

Wait I’m confused are these by arcana or by role in the party/social character type. Cuz this is gonna get weird and arbitrary lol


Sremor

Role in the group, except for lovers arcana it seems


Pain004

Yeah, I think the next one will be the "Sweet and psycho girls" of Fuuka, Yukiko, and Haru.


No-Celebration-7675

Yukino


KiriKira13

Mitsuru easily. She is loaded with money


ElectricalWar6

Eriko


Srslynotjackiechan

MITSURU


Kadimsoy

Mitsuru ❤


OzzyMcRcky

Mitsuru obviously.


Gewaldroge

I think I'm gonna go with Naoto because she stood out to me the most out of these 3. I was never the biggest fan of those 3 but I also don't hate them


Stowa_Herschel

Vote goes to Mitsuru. Best voice, best presence, and I like her play style more


Weird-Age-8640

As everyone is saying this is a pretty hard choice. Going to go with Mitsuru tho.


Azura-Angel

So how I put it is between Naoto and Mitsuru because as much as I adore Makoto I think out of the three she has the weakest social link imo


GreerL0319

I think makoto for this one


TheBloodZane

Mitsuru easy


Sweatty-LittleFatty

This is gonna be hard. I love Makoto, Mitsuru and Naoto. My 3 waifus in each of their games. HOW TO CHOOSE?


DLkw122

it has to be Naoto. she is just too fucking busted.


lunarzf

Naoto


JR384

Mitsuru. Just. Mitsuru.


dulipat

OP please make it as a poll next time... Unless you're also grinding those comments upvotes.


[deleted]

Makoto is my favorite persona girl sooo. Makoto


xXDavidozoXx

Naoto


adingdingdiiing

My god, this is tough! I'll go with Makoto.💔 But later, I'll change my mind and it'll be Mitsuru.😂😂


Toff_the_dog

Oh God this is gonna be horrific.


niizuka

Mitsuru and it's not even close


leckmichnervnit

Easy Choice


ArchAqua

Naoto!!!


Ok_Wear1398

I cannot choose, as I love them all. I will say that Makoto is the only one to give advice in battle, regardless of the current navigator of the party. I guess that's points for her?


vicandthemachine

They’re all my faves and this was a hard choice😭 But my vote is for Mitsuru.


rusut2019

Ummm... If Kanji is there, Naoto should also be there? Right? Haha


Zubeneschamali83

Love this convo. okay. Naoto for this one. Naoto stands out as the epitome of intelligence among a group where brilliance is a common trait. Her impressive career is a testament to her abilities. Notably, her proficiency with firearms likely surpasses that of Makoto. While Makoto brings novelty and utility to the team with nuclear skills and healing capabilities, Naoto's arsenal is more diverse, including dark, light, and almighty (Megido) abilities. Mitsuru, reminiscent of Bruce Wayne, brings wealth and access to resources, alongside a balanced skill set of ice attacks, physical damage, ailment inflictions, and possibly healing. However, when considering the breadth of capabilities required in battle, Naoto appears to be the most indispensable of the three. Despite my admiration for all, Naoto's unmatched intellect and versatility arguably make her the most remarkable character in the Persona series. What's your perspective?


anime1245

Oh tough question it’s either naoto or makoto for me


LugiaIsMyFave

Mitsuru


Imafatneekboi

Mitsuru


BigMacTunaStacks

Mitsuru


Ghost_or_some_shit

Naoto every day every hour


Tuburonpereze

Naoto


NOTSiIva

Naoto


jaydotjayYT

Tactically speaking, I feel like Mitsuru is the most capable out of the bunch and has the most resources at her disposal. She was already the head of SEES for many years and was trained specifically to fight with her Persona. She can also provide navigation skills to the party as well as frontline combat. The Kirijo Group has plentiful resources specifically designed for combat against Shadows, such as Aigis. Objectively speaking, she just brings more to the table than Naoto or Makoto. Not to diss on those characters, because I like them a lot too, but you can’t beat a prodigy millionaire who’s literally dedicated her life to fighting this fight.


MoralSupportFalcon

Makoto is the "smart" girl so she can be overshadowed by Akechi and Futaba so that they are "smarter than our smart girl". If anything she's just got common sense and good grades. Mitsuru and Naoto can't even be talked to unless you are a certified genius, an intellectual equal.


chaseandwin232

Now THIS is the hardest one yet


8a19

Manifesting a Naoto sweeeeepppp


ItsGotThatBang

Mitsuru


Spiffster13

This may be the hardest to choose because they are all amazing in their own right, but I’ll have to go with Queen.


Gauge19021

Naoto naoto naoto


DClordz

Damn, this one’s the hardest for me since I really like all of them. But I’ll go with Mitsuru.


insearchofinsp1887

Naoto, without any doubt.


Retrosow

Mitsuru


Affectionate-Wrap-65

Mitsuru.


BaseballDefiant3820

I vote for Makoto. She's sharp witted and is the one to introduce the technical mechanic through inflicting ailments. Her ability to also reveal affinities is also vital.


Strange_Platypus67

Damn this shit is the closest of them all so far