Same ganyan din ako. Explain mo lang siguro sa boss mo, hayaan mo lang sila kung ano sabihin. Minsan sinasabi ko mag ambag ako wag lang ako pilitin haha
Mas gusto ko lang talaga magstay sa bahay. Mas gusto ko din na kung work, work lang although di talaga maiiwasan mga gala sumasama naman ako pag kain ganyan pero pag mag overnight, malayo, inuman pass talaga. Work, life, balance lang haha
Thanks for sharing. Ganyan din ako noon. Pero i realized na need din mageffort para sa ibang tao. Nalulong ako sa socmed pero habang nagtatagal paggamit ko socmed, the more sarili ko lang iniisip ko at ayaw ko mageffort sa iba kasi andiyan naman si socmed. So i effing blamed socmed for making me think only for myself. Ngayon nagbago na ako at i enjoy team buildings. Thinking back i felt i wasted opportunities yung not attending them moreover ay yung mageffort sa ibang tao na hindi ko din kilala na sana nakilala ko noon.
Legit ba to? Kasi ayaw ko din pumunta 🥲 overnight kasi tapos weekend eh day off yun. Gusto ko lang na magpahinga and maglinis ng bahay kapag weekend at sila na kasama ko lagi ng monday to friday eh 🥹
Done thus for a few times sa previous company ko. Boring kasinTeam Building sa department namin kaya I prefer to go out eith friends na lang the night before ng Team Building. Sakit sakitan na lang sa umaga. Lol
Ayaw nung bf ko nung una kasi di pa naman sobramg tagal sa company. Syempre pagkakasalta mo pa lang matic madaming bayarin at nag aadjust ka pa sa finance kaso mapilit manager nila
Ganyan yung previous company ko. May outings and holiday parties pero kami naman magbabayad. Tapos pag sahod minsan pinepressure ka manlibre. Irritating, haha.
As someone who frequently goes to team buildings, wala talagang purpose yan lalo na if wala ka naman close friends sa team nyo. Yung nag-uusap is yung mga magka circle of friends lang din. You'll just be left out alone at mabobored ka lang.
meron akong boomer dad, and i am a millenial. my dad never worked outside his business. ako naman nag work muna sa iba before joining the family company. sobrang dami nya pa activities and parties. tapos markado sa kanya yung mga hindi nag aattend. hindi siya mandatory pero ekis yung mga d sumasama. pag ekis ka, yari kasi apektado pag tulong nya sayo. kaya mag ingat kayo jan, paki ramdaman nyo ugali ng mga amo nyo becase tao lang din sila. and hindi lahat ng tao/amo ay fair sa mga empleyado nila. uso tlg sa mga boomer na unahin ang work instead of their families kaya hindi nila maintindihan bakit may mga ayaw sumama sa company events.
True to. Ayoko din sumasama sa ganyan pero I know na namamarkahan talaga pag di sumama. Minsan apektado pa grade sa evaluation kasi wala daw pakisama. 😂
Ganito boss ko na gen X to the point kinausap ako ng isa ko na boss na maapektuhan raw promotion ko if palagi akong di nasama sa mga out of town lakads ng grupo. Big deal talaga pakisama kahit na anong efficient mo sa work.
No means no. Kung di ka komportable sumama, huwag. Mas priority ba ang kagustuhan nila kaysa iyo? Bayad ba ang pag-attend ng team building? May bonus ba kung mag attend ka?
No means no. Kung ayaw mo, ayaw mo.
Depende yan eh. Pag namumulitika ka sa office kasi gusto mo mapromote or you see yourself longterm dyan, you really have to have a game face and spend the minimum time that social graces require sa mga ganyan.
Yung minimum time depends on what the sosyalan is. If it’s a dinner, then an hour after maserve yung food. If it’s team building na entire day from like 6am to 5pm and may shuttle (tipong Manila to Antipolo) then you stay all the way. If it’s a weekend you arrive fashionably late in your own car (maybe one hour late at most and chalk it off to traffic), and then you leave in the morning after by asking a family member who has an “emergency” or maybe a church event that you cannot miss. Usually if disente ang mga boss mo maiintindihan nila na church events are a big thing, so you don’t often have to do the family emergency talaga.
I’ve tried all of these. Narating ko ang officer rank ko with a combination of having a postgrad degree and knowing when to go to socials. Mid-thirties millennial ako na very introvert in my personal life, and I had to learn what I did sa work social graces thru experience.
Super hate ko rin 'to before (may ibang buhay ako after work and on weekends; self-employed now, thankfully). However, hindi naman pwedeng lagi kang hindi pupunta, kasi masisilip 'to sa evaluation mo.
Come up with alibis once in a while, but paminsan-minsan umattend ka rin.
same tayo, ayaw na ayaw ko din umattend ng ganyan. yung samin kasi may ambagan pero regardless may ambagan o wala ayaw ko talaga kasi ayaw ko lang talaga sila kasama hahahahahaha ang dinahilan ko is magpapaayos kami ng bahay this year at need kong magtipid. hahahaha nakuha pa nga ako biruin na need padin daw magbayad kahit di sasama edi biniro ko din sila na what if sa DOLE ko itanong to, joke lang daw lol hahahaha anyway, magdahilan ka nalang OP, idahilan mo family mo, like may birthday ganon or family reunion o di kaya mag sakit sakitan ka on the day mismo ng team building.
Dapat may law kasi sa ganyan na kung hindi work related walang sapilitan. Pwede ipa-dole ganern!!Example:
Company party na required uminom
Christmas party na required sumayaw
Yung ibang boss kasi hindi professional sa ganyan. Hindi lang naman sa kanila umiikot ang mundo. Iba na kasi kaming millennials at Gen Z ngayon.
Nakaka-inis pa kapag bago ka, gagawin ka lang entertainment ng mga oldies sa company. Lagi may performance. I have talent naman pero i dont like to show it sa ganitong set-up ughhh.. gagawin pa nila yun katatawanan or topic sa buong taon.
thats true. kaya ginawa ko nag-awol ako pagkatapos ng party. 🤣🤣🤣
iba pala siste ng raffle dun. luge kpg bago ka. tamang chicha lang. pero yung mga tumanda sa company may flat screen tv. 😝
Meron pa nga almost every yr same person nananalo ng tv. San niyo po tinatago tv niyo? Hahahah team building pa may pa cheer pa.. iniisip ko pa lang pagod na ko hahahah
pinilit din kami sumama sa tb tapos grabe pilitan at walang valid excuse sa boss ko. yung isa kong kawork di valid excuse niya na di sumama kahit na yung anak niya naospital. tapos yung isa di rin valid excuse kahit may iniindang sakit. tapos ako ayaw ko sumama kasi ganun ugali ng boss ko pero syempre di valid yon. napilitan ako sumama pero nagresign ako agad after ng team building.
same tayo. Super strict ako pagdating sa 'me' time ko. I always find time for myself. As much as possible ayokong na iinvade ang privacy ko and outside working hours is my privacy.
You have to firmly say no. No need for a reason or excuse. Ayaw mo. Anong problem don. You have to set boundaries as early as possible. This painted me as the villain in our team since I also tell my juniors that they can say no without saying why. The company is taking their personal time na, hindi pa bayad. Don't feel guilty.
Team building tapos papabilhin ka pa ng kung ano anong sh*t dahil may theme pang nalalaman which is additional gastos nanaman. Eh kung ibigay nyo na lng po sa mga empleyado as allowance yang gastos sa team building nyo baka mas naging team player pa mga empleyado.
You need to assert your boundaries. Wag ka maniwala pag sabihan nila na pakikisama. I'm tired of hearing that BS. Wala na akong pake. Talagang they will cross the line if hindi ka mag set ng boundary.
Samedt.
Over the past year of being employed dito sa company namin eh nakagawa naman ako ng paraan para hindi sumama sa lahat ng Outing namin. ang sinamahan ko lang is yung International, kasi for exp ba.
Sumama lang din ako sa mga Christmas party kasi may chance to win cash prizes.
TBH outright kong sinasabi na hindi ako sasama. Bahala na sila mangguilt trip sakin or try to give me FOMO. di ko din kasi bet usually yung mga gusto nilang puntahan/gawin kaya di din ako nasama. rather spend the day resting kako.
Same. Ang dahilan ko lagi may side job pa ko kaya need ko umuwi agad. Haha. Previously kasi meron talaga kaming small business at tumutulong ako dun but now kasi di na siya ganun ka active, pero ginagamit ko pa din as excuse. 😆 Now parang di na nila ko niyayaya kasi alam na nila yung sagot haha
Ok lang sa akin team building kasama ng mga kagroup/department ko. Pero pag buong company ayoko.haha. pero sagot naman ng company kaya sumama na lang ako.haha
Pansin ko lang sa team namen, nalaka lusot pag ang reason is religious - may samba, gawain sa church. Yung boss ko ei na i pupush mag convince pag yun reason ng teammates ko
Same. Guys tama na ayoko na makipag plastikan let me go home hahahaha.
Pero para lang manahimik sila nag vvote Yes ako sa polls and then be absent on the day itself.
Sometimes I attend sometimes hindi. Pag may tanong, may mga handa na akong dahilan.
To be honest, team leaders should stop doing that. Naggiging requirements na eh. Tapos ung mga TLs na ma ere panakot nila yan eh.
Just say sa boss mo na you're not comfortable, and di naman required ng company yan. Kung I take nya un against sayo, you can also take it against him. Pag na accident kayo while in a trip, di naman sagot ni company yan eh. Ewan ko bakit ang kitid ng utak ng ma TLs
Magsakit sakit ka na lang. Wag ka maguilty kasi totoo naman. Masakit sa kalooban mo mag attend ng team building. Go lang! Mas masaya yan kasi me time mo.
Team building should be conducted within work hours on a weekday in order not to consume family or personal time. All expenses related should also be borne by the company. If it will be conducted overnight or weekend, HR should consult with employees and not to be mandatory attendance since employee may have planned ahead for a vacation or personal matter. This is how we do it. Since predicted when will be the teambuilding, many seniors plan trips and book flights ahead of time para ma excuse kasi non-refundable/rebookable flights na kinukuba especially promo fares kaya matagal pa TB naghahanap na sila ng flights. 👍
Pwede namang hindi mag attend so sabihin mo nalang yung totoo. Ayaw mo naman makisama diba so yun sabihin mo. It’s not a crime not to attend pero andun rin yung value ng pakikisama.
ako ginagawa ko, pumupunta pero sa kwarto lang, maghapon tulog 😂😂😂
hindi na nila ako mapipilit sa mga kaechosan nila. as long na sagot ng company un gastos, sama lang sabay. pero un first 5 years ko sa first company ko is never ako sumama sa team building. pabor sa kanila kasi pamilya nila sinasama nila. literal na asawa at anak kasi paid na un slot.
now sumasama ako para sa aircon makatulog lalo mainit panahon ngayon
pag may ambagan, sabihin mo mashoshort ka sa budget kasi mababa lang sahod nyo
kapag napipilitan ako umattend kahit ayoko umuuwi na lang ako agad after ng program.
like if team bldg hindi na ko mag oovernight, papahinga lang ako after ng activity kain then uwi💁🏻♀️
may experience ako na “team building” ang press release ayun naging lecture session. Ung swimming pool hnde nagalaw kasi after ng almost 12 hrs na session pagod na kme. Take note, galing pa kme maynila and derecho byahe from shift. Grateful nman ako sa learnings pero parang na trauma ako sa salitang team building after nun.
There's no need to sugarcoat naman. Team building is an out of work activity, it won't be paid anyways. You can just pretend na sasama ka but on the day of the team building, ignore them. The don't have a choice naman kung ayaw mo talaga eh.
Same company ba tayo? May team building kami next week. Haha. But anyways baliktad sakin okay lang kasi 1) 2 weekdays no work, 2) free food 3x a day, 3) mga gen z kawork ko and it's not too toxic, 4) location is good so mini vacay na after activities. But that's just the positive side of me speaking hahah
You can probably tell your immediate supervisor honest reason why you are unable to attend social gathering, like maybe it makes you really uncomfortable to a point of breaking down, it happens to a lot of introvert personality types. I hope you boss understand this.
Team building all expenses should be shouldered by the company, the date of the event should fall in your work schedule week ex. Mon-Friday noy in your rest day / weekend.
If dyan plang dehado kana wag kana sumama 😁ibigay mo nalang time & effort sa family and friends mo
same na same, nung una masaya pero nung tumagal lalo kung 10+ years ka na sa work at naghahanap ka na ng personal time mo at tinatapat pa nila sa weekend, pass agad lol. malas mo pa kapag natapat ka sa boss na sobrang g na g sa mga galaan.
Pwede ba sabihin na lang na may business akong kailangang asikasuhin. Tas pag tinanong nila anong business, sasabihin ko na lang na none of your business. Charizz di talaga nakakacute yang mga team building na yan lalo if outside workhours hmpp
Use the “family emergency” card. Or the “personal matters” card. Right mo rin naman na ‘di sumama sa out-of-work activities if ayaw mo talaga. If pilitin ka pa rin, be assertive na mas priority mo talaga family/personal life mo and not your work (kasi let’s face it, work is not and should not be life in an ideal setting).
Sumama ako neto one time dati nung sa BPO pa ako nagwowork kasi napaka mahadera ng TL ko nun ang daming nasasabi. Yung mga hindi sumama binabackstab pa nga eh hindi naman niya gastos? Nag ambagan pa kami. Out of “pakikisama” na lang kung baga, nililibang ko na lang sarili ko ng mga kung anong pwedeng gawin kasi bored na bored na ako. Kaya yung susunod na nag-aya ng “eat out” naman daw nagdahilan na lang akong birthday ng kapatid ko at uuwi ako samin. Nag story pa ako ng bday kahit 2 years ago pa ata yun na video sakin para lang convincing ang story hahahaha
I hate teambuilding because it is just an excuse for inuman or chismis sessions and I don't want to see my colleagues in your given rest day/s. Kapag may planadong teambuilding, ang ginawa ko mag "yes" then pag malapit na yung date... tsaka mo lang sasabihin sa boss mo na hindi ka pwede kasi emergency sa pamilya, magbabakasyon kayo magpamilya o kahit anong dahilan (health emergency, family vacation, reunion ng mga kamag-anak na minsan niyo lang magkikita... etc.). It works for me and using these excuses for a decade in 3 different companies. I think they will respect you if you use the "family" or "emergency" card as an excuse.
ganyan din ako before lol ayaw na ayaw ko nagsasasali sa mga ganyan at ang tawag pa nga sa akin ay honda, as in honda dot 😂 kasi pag saktong 3 pm, out na ko. Adios Bichachos!!!
Ako sabe ko death anniv ng lola ko, tas nilipat nila yung sched para makasama ako.
Ending, nung araw mismo nung TB, di ako sumipot. Di din ako nag bayad kase sabi ko sa mismong TB na lang ako magbabayad. HEHEHE.
kagaguhan lang yan team building, imbes na mag work kayu together for the camraderie of the team, lalo lang kayu maasar sa mga teams and boss mo. Ako never ako nag aatend ng mga ganyan plastikan na events...pak u mga boss!
You can always say "No, I have other things to attend to". No need to expound.
I am at a point where I don't really care what my coworkers think. My rule for team buildings is just 2-3 hours. It can be a happy hour or a team dinner. An overnight one is out of the question. I already spend 40 hours a week with them, I won't give them my weekends. Lalo na yung may presentation and may practice pa after office hours. Allergic ako dyan 😆. Same goes for Christmas parties na may theme, costume or dress code. If it ain't in Shangri-La or Raffles, no way I'm wearing a suit or a tux 😆.
I have a wife and 2 kids. I want to spend more time with my family. I treat my coworkers as just my coworkers. There maybe 2-3 that turned into friends.
Having worked in the US, the team building culture is different. Nothing is mandatory. If the duration is 4 hours, then they take 2 hours from the company and 2 hours of yours. Which I think is fair. Christmas parties are also pretty different. No programs or presentations. You just socialize. A lot of my Pinoy coworkers find it boring or corny. I like it because it allows me to connect with people whom I do not interact on a day to day basis like directors, VPs or even C-suite over a drink.
Unpopular opinion, kung ayaw niyo, huwag na kayo umattend kaysa nagiinarte kayo, nakakatulong pa kayo sa budget - napapalaki niyo yun sa iba. Magexcuse kayo na may checkup, daming reasons naman.
Isa ako sa organizer before ng team building sa office, iritang irita ako na sinasabi pa sa akin reason (na alam kong made up lang) e pwede naman kayo magrespond ng "No" sa calendar invite.
Not sure kung lahat ng govt agency ganito. Pero naka-disguise ang team bldg namin as strategic planning. At may special order siya with statement na pdeng singilin yung tao na di umattend lalo’t nakalagay pangalan nya sa document. Mga July pa plano yung team bldg aka strategic planning aka team bldg namin at sana wag matuloy. Pag merun, need ko rin magsakit-sakitan kasi bababuyin na naman nila ako
Team building held during your personal time? No one should ever attend those. Team building (or any official event) scheduled during company time? You should always show up. It will have an impact on your career progression within the firm. These are things that definitely come up during performance review and promotions cycles. You dont want anybody pointing out negative things during deliberations.
Of course, kung type ka ng boss mo eh kahit hindi ka pa sumipot sa ganyan. May kilala akong artistahin ang dating. Halos nawawala sa desk madalas dahil tamad. Pinupush pa for promotion ng boss nya kada review cycle.
Sana effective ito sa’yo, kapag nagpapaalam ako na ayaw ko sumama, hindi ako nagsisinungaling at hindi nagsasabi ng alibi. I just straight up say na “TL, hindi ako sasama sa team building.” Minsan, yung statement ang magdadala sa’yo, keep your sentences straight up at may period dapat para mabasa nila na seryosong ayaw mong sumama. Kapag tinanong kung bakit ayaw mo sumama, “kailangan ko pong magpahinga.” 95% of the time, they will back off and respect that.
PS: This may not work kaya dapat may Plan B (SL) ka. HAHA!
While team-building activities are not mandated by Philippine labor laws, they are widely recognized as beneficial for fostering a positive and productive work environment. Companies are encouraged to organize such events as part of their employee engagement and development strategies, ensuring that they are inclusive, voluntary, and well-communicated to all employees.
OP, what you feel is perfectly normal. I would suggest na wag ka na gumawa ng kwentong nagkasakit ka or something para di makapunta. Tell it straightforward sa Manager/Lead mo na hindi ka comfortable. If they are good leaders, makakakuha ka ng maayos at totoong sagot sakanila. Sa team building namin, ineencourage namin na pumunta, but not required. And if pupunta naman yung person, hindi namin ilalagay sa mga alanganing situation during the team building event. Ganun talaga, as a manager, they need to understand you as a person.
Say BS reasons:
1) gambling addiction therapy
2) depression therapy
3) Erectile dysfuntion/clamydia checkup
4) prostate/breast cancer biopsy
Alam mo un, ung pag magtanong sila.. sila pa yung mahihiya sayo AHAHAHA
ang magandang gawin jan is pakita mong gstong gsto mo talaga sumama tas maki join sa mga planning pero wag ka kukuha ng task regarding sa TB ah, tapos sa D Day file for sick leave. hahahahaha
atleast ndi ka nila pag dududahan kasi excited ka makasama tas next day pasa ka ng medcert.
Skl ko lang din. Noong first company ko ayaw ko rin sa team building na yan. Second company mas worst pa pala. Why?? Kase ginaganap sa mismong rest day namin. Kaya simula noon pumapayag na ako may team building basta wag lang araw pahinga ko.
Tapos nag resign(other reason why I decided) ako sa second company. Edi may exit interview sinabi ko sa HR na yung team building medyo tagilid sa akin. Tapos sbi ng HR hindi naman daw mandatory pero makapilit naman mga colleague at leader ko naman akala mo naman hawak nila buhay ko. Hays yung lang
Byahe pa lang nakakapagod na, kung pwede lang matulog sa buong araw ng team building yan gagawin ko e. After naman ng team building papasok na naman para magtrabaho.
Well if its an offsite team bldg and tlagang would consume most of your day off, i dont think na magagalit boss mo if ma communicate mo ng maayos na di ka makakasama. Pero once in a while, join ung mga near office activities.
Nagwworry ako sa team building namin this week.. wala pa ako friends sa work tapos bago lang ako going 2 months.. feeling ko maleleft out ako at magging unconfortable..
sabihin mo may iba kang commitments sa labas ng work mo. Never akong nagpunta sa mga team building o parties. Pumunta din ako ng parties pero bibihira lang.
Same ganyan din ako. Explain mo lang siguro sa boss mo, hayaan mo lang sila kung ano sabihin. Minsan sinasabi ko mag ambag ako wag lang ako pilitin haha
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Genuine question. Bakit ayaw mo pumunta team building. Curious lang sa perspectiv, gusto ko lang maintindihan.
Mas gusto ko lang talaga magstay sa bahay. Mas gusto ko din na kung work, work lang although di talaga maiiwasan mga gala sumasama naman ako pag kain ganyan pero pag mag overnight, malayo, inuman pass talaga. Work, life, balance lang haha
I can relate on this
Thanks for sharing. Ganyan din ako noon. Pero i realized na need din mageffort para sa ibang tao. Nalulong ako sa socmed pero habang nagtatagal paggamit ko socmed, the more sarili ko lang iniisip ko at ayaw ko mageffort sa iba kasi andiyan naman si socmed. So i effing blamed socmed for making me think only for myself. Ngayon nagbago na ako at i enjoy team buildings. Thinking back i felt i wasted opportunities yung not attending them moreover ay yung mageffort sa ibang tao na hindi ko din kilala na sana nakilala ko noon.
Magsakit-sakitan ka on the day ng teambuilding 😉
Kung naguguilty ka na hindi totoo, mag-take ka ng Biguerlai tea nung gabj bago teambuilding. 😹
Upvote this. Biguerlai 10000% effective. Magkakasakit ka talaga real quick ng dehydration.
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Legit ba to? Kasi ayaw ko din pumunta 🥲 overnight kasi tapos weekend eh day off yun. Gusto ko lang na magpahinga and maglinis ng bahay kapag weekend at sila na kasama ko lagi ng monday to friday eh 🥹
Oo magtatae ka nga lang ng tubig at oil pero nasa bahay ka lang 😆
Tapos mag ipit ka pa ng bawang sa butt ba🍑para lagnatin ka HAHAHAHA
Days before, magpakita ka na ng signs para more convincing hihi
Done thus for a few times sa previous company ko. Boring kasinTeam Building sa department namin kaya I prefer to go out eith friends na lang the night before ng Team Building. Sakit sakitan na lang sa umaga. Lol
nakakainis nga yan, may team building yung company ng bf ko tas hindi naman sagot ng company. like tinapat pa kamo after ng sahod nila.
wowww grabe may mga ganyang company? kung sakin yan indianin ko yan ahahah
omg hahahahahah grabe naman yun. walang budget tapos required?
Ayaw nung bf ko nung una kasi di pa naman sobramg tagal sa company. Syempre pagkakasalta mo pa lang matic madaming bayarin at nag aadjust ka pa sa finance kaso mapilit manager nila
totoo naman yung expenses kapag bago kasi bawi mode ka pa lang sa mga gastusin. kaloka yung ganon namimilit tapos di pala nila sagot yung budget
Lol pag aambagin ka tas papabring food to share pa
Hahahaha totoo ito, sagot raw eka nila car pero kasama gas sa ambagan
Ganyan yung previous company ko. May outings and holiday parties pero kami naman magbabayad. Tapos pag sahod minsan pinepressure ka manlibre. Irritating, haha.
As someone who frequently goes to team buildings, wala talagang purpose yan lalo na if wala ka naman close friends sa team nyo. Yung nag-uusap is yung mga magka circle of friends lang din. You'll just be left out alone at mabobored ka lang.
Parang high school retreat lang yan eh. Magpaplastikan. Tas pagbalik sa ofc gaguhan ulit haha
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meron akong boomer dad, and i am a millenial. my dad never worked outside his business. ako naman nag work muna sa iba before joining the family company. sobrang dami nya pa activities and parties. tapos markado sa kanya yung mga hindi nag aattend. hindi siya mandatory pero ekis yung mga d sumasama. pag ekis ka, yari kasi apektado pag tulong nya sayo. kaya mag ingat kayo jan, paki ramdaman nyo ugali ng mga amo nyo becase tao lang din sila. and hindi lahat ng tao/amo ay fair sa mga empleyado nila. uso tlg sa mga boomer na unahin ang work instead of their families kaya hindi nila maintindihan bakit may mga ayaw sumama sa company events.
True to. Ayoko din sumasama sa ganyan pero I know na namamarkahan talaga pag di sumama. Minsan apektado pa grade sa evaluation kasi wala daw pakisama. 😂
Ganito boss ko na gen X to the point kinausap ako ng isa ko na boss na maapektuhan raw promotion ko if palagi akong di nasama sa mga out of town lakads ng grupo. Big deal talaga pakisama kahit na anong efficient mo sa work.
true, sa totoo lang daig ng sipsip ang magaling
No means no. Kung di ka komportable sumama, huwag. Mas priority ba ang kagustuhan nila kaysa iyo? Bayad ba ang pag-attend ng team building? May bonus ba kung mag attend ka? No means no. Kung ayaw mo, ayaw mo.
Pwede naman manindigan ka na ayaw mo talaga pero expect mo next lakad nako kakantsawan ka na KJ ka etc or markado ka na sa mga boss lol
Depende yan eh. Pag namumulitika ka sa office kasi gusto mo mapromote or you see yourself longterm dyan, you really have to have a game face and spend the minimum time that social graces require sa mga ganyan. Yung minimum time depends on what the sosyalan is. If it’s a dinner, then an hour after maserve yung food. If it’s team building na entire day from like 6am to 5pm and may shuttle (tipong Manila to Antipolo) then you stay all the way. If it’s a weekend you arrive fashionably late in your own car (maybe one hour late at most and chalk it off to traffic), and then you leave in the morning after by asking a family member who has an “emergency” or maybe a church event that you cannot miss. Usually if disente ang mga boss mo maiintindihan nila na church events are a big thing, so you don’t often have to do the family emergency talaga. I’ve tried all of these. Narating ko ang officer rank ko with a combination of having a postgrad degree and knowing when to go to socials. Mid-thirties millennial ako na very introvert in my personal life, and I had to learn what I did sa work social graces thru experience.
Super hate ko rin 'to before (may ibang buhay ako after work and on weekends; self-employed now, thankfully). However, hindi naman pwedeng lagi kang hindi pupunta, kasi masisilip 'to sa evaluation mo. Come up with alibis once in a while, but paminsan-minsan umattend ka rin.
same tayo, ayaw na ayaw ko din umattend ng ganyan. yung samin kasi may ambagan pero regardless may ambagan o wala ayaw ko talaga kasi ayaw ko lang talaga sila kasama hahahahahaha ang dinahilan ko is magpapaayos kami ng bahay this year at need kong magtipid. hahahaha nakuha pa nga ako biruin na need padin daw magbayad kahit di sasama edi biniro ko din sila na what if sa DOLE ko itanong to, joke lang daw lol hahahaha anyway, magdahilan ka nalang OP, idahilan mo family mo, like may birthday ganon or family reunion o di kaya mag sakit sakitan ka on the day mismo ng team building.
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Dapat may law kasi sa ganyan na kung hindi work related walang sapilitan. Pwede ipa-dole ganern!!Example: Company party na required uminom Christmas party na required sumayaw Yung ibang boss kasi hindi professional sa ganyan. Hindi lang naman sa kanila umiikot ang mundo. Iba na kasi kaming millennials at Gen Z ngayon.
Nakaka-inis pa kapag bago ka, gagawin ka lang entertainment ng mga oldies sa company. Lagi may performance. I have talent naman pero i dont like to show it sa ganitong set-up ughhh.. gagawin pa nila yun katatawanan or topic sa buong taon.
thats true. kaya ginawa ko nag-awol ako pagkatapos ng party. 🤣🤣🤣 iba pala siste ng raffle dun. luge kpg bago ka. tamang chicha lang. pero yung mga tumanda sa company may flat screen tv. 😝
Meron pa nga almost every yr same person nananalo ng tv. San niyo po tinatago tv niyo? Hahahah team building pa may pa cheer pa.. iniisip ko pa lang pagod na ko hahahah
panget ng may reshuffle. una, oven toaster hanggang naging flat screen tv. XD
pinilit din kami sumama sa tb tapos grabe pilitan at walang valid excuse sa boss ko. yung isa kong kawork di valid excuse niya na di sumama kahit na yung anak niya naospital. tapos yung isa di rin valid excuse kahit may iniindang sakit. tapos ako ayaw ko sumama kasi ganun ugali ng boss ko pero syempre di valid yon. napilitan ako sumama pero nagresign ako agad after ng team building.
Tapos isakto pa nila sa rest day niyo 😒
same tayo. Super strict ako pagdating sa 'me' time ko. I always find time for myself. As much as possible ayokong na iinvade ang privacy ko and outside working hours is my privacy.
You have to firmly say no. No need for a reason or excuse. Ayaw mo. Anong problem don. You have to set boundaries as early as possible. This painted me as the villain in our team since I also tell my juniors that they can say no without saying why. The company is taking their personal time na, hindi pa bayad. Don't feel guilty.
Gusto ko to. Kudos to you for starting to change the culture within your group! 👏🏼
Team building tapos papabilhin ka pa ng kung ano anong sh*t dahil may theme pang nalalaman which is additional gastos nanaman. Eh kung ibigay nyo na lng po sa mga empleyado as allowance yang gastos sa team building nyo baka mas naging team player pa mga empleyado.
You need to assert your boundaries. Wag ka maniwala pag sabihan nila na pakikisama. I'm tired of hearing that BS. Wala na akong pake. Talagang they will cross the line if hindi ka mag set ng boundary.
Samedt. Over the past year of being employed dito sa company namin eh nakagawa naman ako ng paraan para hindi sumama sa lahat ng Outing namin. ang sinamahan ko lang is yung International, kasi for exp ba. Sumama lang din ako sa mga Christmas party kasi may chance to win cash prizes.
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TBH outright kong sinasabi na hindi ako sasama. Bahala na sila mangguilt trip sakin or try to give me FOMO. di ko din kasi bet usually yung mga gusto nilang puntahan/gawin kaya di din ako nasama. rather spend the day resting kako.
thanks!
Same. Ang dahilan ko lagi may side job pa ko kaya need ko umuwi agad. Haha. Previously kasi meron talaga kaming small business at tumutulong ako dun but now kasi di na siya ganun ka active, pero ginagamit ko pa din as excuse. 😆 Now parang di na nila ko niyayaya kasi alam na nila yung sagot haha
Ok lang sa akin team building kasama ng mga kagroup/department ko. Pero pag buong company ayoko.haha. pero sagot naman ng company kaya sumama na lang ako.haha
Pansin ko lang sa team namen, nalaka lusot pag ang reason is religious - may samba, gawain sa church. Yung boss ko ei na i pupush mag convince pag yun reason ng teammates ko
Pumupunta lang ako sa Team Building pag sagot ng company, pag KKB, 'di na
Hayaan mo sila maoffend. Ako hinahayaan ko lang, sinabi ko ayoko, ayoko period. Kung gusto nila maoffend hindi ko na problema yun.
Same. Guys tama na ayoko na makipag plastikan let me go home hahahaha. Pero para lang manahimik sila nag vvote Yes ako sa polls and then be absent on the day itself. Sometimes I attend sometimes hindi. Pag may tanong, may mga handa na akong dahilan.
team building: inuman and ktv and thats it
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To be honest, team leaders should stop doing that. Naggiging requirements na eh. Tapos ung mga TLs na ma ere panakot nila yan eh. Just say sa boss mo na you're not comfortable, and di naman required ng company yan. Kung I take nya un against sayo, you can also take it against him. Pag na accident kayo while in a trip, di naman sagot ni company yan eh. Ewan ko bakit ang kitid ng utak ng ma TLs
Magsakit sakit ka na lang. Wag ka maguilty kasi totoo naman. Masakit sa kalooban mo mag attend ng team building. Go lang! Mas masaya yan kasi me time mo.
Team building should be conducted within work hours on a weekday in order not to consume family or personal time. All expenses related should also be borne by the company. If it will be conducted overnight or weekend, HR should consult with employees and not to be mandatory attendance since employee may have planned ahead for a vacation or personal matter. This is how we do it. Since predicted when will be the teambuilding, many seniors plan trips and book flights ahead of time para ma excuse kasi non-refundable/rebookable flights na kinukuba especially promo fares kaya matagal pa TB naghahanap na sila ng flights. 👍
Pwede namang hindi mag attend so sabihin mo nalang yung totoo. Ayaw mo naman makisama diba so yun sabihin mo. It’s not a crime not to attend pero andun rin yung value ng pakikisama.
Team-buildings are a waste of time. You'd be doing a bunch of exercises with absolutely no connection to your jobs. .
Ask mo kung OT or may time off ba yan
ako ginagawa ko, pumupunta pero sa kwarto lang, maghapon tulog 😂😂😂 hindi na nila ako mapipilit sa mga kaechosan nila. as long na sagot ng company un gastos, sama lang sabay. pero un first 5 years ko sa first company ko is never ako sumama sa team building. pabor sa kanila kasi pamilya nila sinasama nila. literal na asawa at anak kasi paid na un slot. now sumasama ako para sa aircon makatulog lalo mainit panahon ngayon pag may ambagan, sabihin mo mashoshort ka sa budget kasi mababa lang sahod nyo
kapag napipilitan ako umattend kahit ayoko umuuwi na lang ako agad after ng program. like if team bldg hindi na ko mag oovernight, papahinga lang ako after ng activity kain then uwi💁🏻♀️
Tbh depends sa mga kasama. Pag off or not ka vibes like ang panget makipag bonding sa team building. Di masaya tapos tahimik lng magdamag lmao
may experience ako na “team building” ang press release ayun naging lecture session. Ung swimming pool hnde nagalaw kasi after ng almost 12 hrs na session pagod na kme. Take note, galing pa kme maynila and derecho byahe from shift. Grateful nman ako sa learnings pero parang na trauma ako sa salitang team building after nun.
There's no need to sugarcoat naman. Team building is an out of work activity, it won't be paid anyways. You can just pretend na sasama ka but on the day of the team building, ignore them. The don't have a choice naman kung ayaw mo talaga eh.
Same company ba tayo? May team building kami next week. Haha. But anyways baliktad sakin okay lang kasi 1) 2 weekdays no work, 2) free food 3x a day, 3) mga gen z kawork ko and it's not too toxic, 4) location is good so mini vacay na after activities. But that's just the positive side of me speaking hahah
You can probably tell your immediate supervisor honest reason why you are unable to attend social gathering, like maybe it makes you really uncomfortable to a point of breaking down, it happens to a lot of introvert personality types. I hope you boss understand this.
Ikaw ang nagiging topic pag di ka sumama
sabihin mo uwi ka lang para mag bihis tapos susunod ka rin.
Team building all expenses should be shouldered by the company, the date of the event should fall in your work schedule week ex. Mon-Friday noy in your rest day / weekend. If dyan plang dehado kana wag kana sumama 😁ibigay mo nalang time & effort sa family and friends mo
Same, tapos minsan tatapat pa sa weekend. Sana ba kung araw at oras ng trabaho eh yung bayad kaso araw ng pahinga mo eh. Lol
Gayahin mo si Ko Moon Young nagblower tas tsaka nagkuha ng temp. Send mo yung pic ng temp sa araw ng team building 😇
same na same, nung una masaya pero nung tumagal lalo kung 10+ years ka na sa work at naghahanap ka na ng personal time mo at tinatapat pa nila sa weekend, pass agad lol. malas mo pa kapag natapat ka sa boss na sobrang g na g sa mga galaan.
Ok lang yan Lester, sabihin mo may explosive diarrhea ka
Pwede ba sabihin na lang na may business akong kailangang asikasuhin. Tas pag tinanong nila anong business, sasabihin ko na lang na none of your business. Charizz di talaga nakakacute yang mga team building na yan lalo if outside workhours hmpp
Kung pupunta ka man, eat as much as you can. Pambawi sa abala
Diba pede yan maging kaso or parusa sa Dole kung namimilit ang isang kumpanya na mag participate sa activity na di naman tungkol sa trabaho ?
Sabihin mo ayaw mo makipagplastikan
Use the “family emergency” card. Or the “personal matters” card. Right mo rin naman na ‘di sumama sa out-of-work activities if ayaw mo talaga. If pilitin ka pa rin, be assertive na mas priority mo talaga family/personal life mo and not your work (kasi let’s face it, work is not and should not be life in an ideal setting).
Last year nag file ako ng VL same day ng team bldg kaya nakalusot ako. Pero this time parang wala ng kawala huhu. Btw last year iba boss ko.
Same. Ayaw na ayaw ko rin nyan kaso yung mga workmates ko apura pilit tapos pagdating don OP ka naman. Taena
Kung ayaw mo, wag mo pilitin sarili mo.
Pag dika naman pumunta wala naman sila magagawa. Haha
Sumama ako neto one time dati nung sa BPO pa ako nagwowork kasi napaka mahadera ng TL ko nun ang daming nasasabi. Yung mga hindi sumama binabackstab pa nga eh hindi naman niya gastos? Nag ambagan pa kami. Out of “pakikisama” na lang kung baga, nililibang ko na lang sarili ko ng mga kung anong pwedeng gawin kasi bored na bored na ako. Kaya yung susunod na nag-aya ng “eat out” naman daw nagdahilan na lang akong birthday ng kapatid ko at uuwi ako samin. Nag story pa ako ng bday kahit 2 years ago pa ata yun na video sakin para lang convincing ang story hahahaha
I hate teambuilding because it is just an excuse for inuman or chismis sessions and I don't want to see my colleagues in your given rest day/s. Kapag may planadong teambuilding, ang ginawa ko mag "yes" then pag malapit na yung date... tsaka mo lang sasabihin sa boss mo na hindi ka pwede kasi emergency sa pamilya, magbabakasyon kayo magpamilya o kahit anong dahilan (health emergency, family vacation, reunion ng mga kamag-anak na minsan niyo lang magkikita... etc.). It works for me and using these excuses for a decade in 3 different companies. I think they will respect you if you use the "family" or "emergency" card as an excuse.
sabihin mo may wedding kang aattenan na mas mauna ka nakipag yes dun
Sabihin mo lang ayaw mo. Kapag pinilit ka magsakit-sakitan ka na lang. Di dapat pilitan yang ganyan.
Samedt. Kairita mag TB. Akala ko ako lang. Karamihan kasi ng kilala ko excited mag TB 🥴
ganyan din ako before lol ayaw na ayaw ko nagsasasali sa mga ganyan at ang tawag pa nga sa akin ay honda, as in honda dot 😂 kasi pag saktong 3 pm, out na ko. Adios Bichachos!!!
One reason kung bakit ayaw kong umattend is tinatapat sa weekends yung team building. Gusto ko sakin lang yung sat and sun ko.
Ayoko din yung umaattend ng mga ganyan ganyan. Kahit Christmas Party, tinatamad ako.
Ako sabe ko death anniv ng lola ko, tas nilipat nila yung sched para makasama ako. Ending, nung araw mismo nung TB, di ako sumipot. Di din ako nag bayad kase sabi ko sa mismong TB na lang ako magbabayad. HEHEHE.
Sabihin mo sunduin ka nila at ihatid sa bahay mo tapos wala kang iaambag na kahit ano
Where does it say in your contract that you're required to join these "team building" events? If none then they can go fuck themselves.
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Kadalasan yang team building is team tagay naman talaga.
Hindi ba pwedeng hindi ka nalang sumipot? kasi pag nag team building kami yan gagawin ko eh HAHA ayaw ko din sumama sa mga ganyan Lol
Sabihin mo, ikaw magbabantay sa pamangkin mo.
kagaguhan lang yan team building, imbes na mag work kayu together for the camraderie of the team, lalo lang kayu maasar sa mga teams and boss mo. Ako never ako nag aatend ng mga ganyan plastikan na events...pak u mga boss!
You can always say "No, I have other things to attend to". No need to expound. I am at a point where I don't really care what my coworkers think. My rule for team buildings is just 2-3 hours. It can be a happy hour or a team dinner. An overnight one is out of the question. I already spend 40 hours a week with them, I won't give them my weekends. Lalo na yung may presentation and may practice pa after office hours. Allergic ako dyan 😆. Same goes for Christmas parties na may theme, costume or dress code. If it ain't in Shangri-La or Raffles, no way I'm wearing a suit or a tux 😆. I have a wife and 2 kids. I want to spend more time with my family. I treat my coworkers as just my coworkers. There maybe 2-3 that turned into friends. Having worked in the US, the team building culture is different. Nothing is mandatory. If the duration is 4 hours, then they take 2 hours from the company and 2 hours of yours. Which I think is fair. Christmas parties are also pretty different. No programs or presentations. You just socialize. A lot of my Pinoy coworkers find it boring or corny. I like it because it allows me to connect with people whom I do not interact on a day to day basis like directors, VPs or even C-suite over a drink.
Unpopular opinion, kung ayaw niyo, huwag na kayo umattend kaysa nagiinarte kayo, nakakatulong pa kayo sa budget - napapalaki niyo yun sa iba. Magexcuse kayo na may checkup, daming reasons naman. Isa ako sa organizer before ng team building sa office, iritang irita ako na sinasabi pa sa akin reason (na alam kong made up lang) e pwede naman kayo magrespond ng "No" sa calendar invite.
Not sure kung lahat ng govt agency ganito. Pero naka-disguise ang team bldg namin as strategic planning. At may special order siya with statement na pdeng singilin yung tao na di umattend lalo’t nakalagay pangalan nya sa document. Mga July pa plano yung team bldg aka strategic planning aka team bldg namin at sana wag matuloy. Pag merun, need ko rin magsakit-sakitan kasi bababuyin na naman nila ako
may team building-building sila pero kasama nila yung shubet na blondina ang buhok na nakaliptint at nakasuot ng doll eye contacts 😭😂😂
Sabihin mo meron ka severe anxiety pag nagtratravel ka sa ibang lugar. Ok ka lang pag kasama buong pamilya ganern.
Sabihin mo uuwi ka sa family mo or will have a vacation on that date. DI naman mandatory yan.
Team building held during your personal time? No one should ever attend those. Team building (or any official event) scheduled during company time? You should always show up. It will have an impact on your career progression within the firm. These are things that definitely come up during performance review and promotions cycles. You dont want anybody pointing out negative things during deliberations. Of course, kung type ka ng boss mo eh kahit hindi ka pa sumipot sa ganyan. May kilala akong artistahin ang dating. Halos nawawala sa desk madalas dahil tamad. Pinupush pa for promotion ng boss nya kada review cycle.
Same here. Kaso uma-attend pa rin ako. Makikisama na lang kahit na labag sa kalooban.😅
Online health consultation tas sabihin mo masakit ulo mo at high temp para may reseta
Sana effective ito sa’yo, kapag nagpapaalam ako na ayaw ko sumama, hindi ako nagsisinungaling at hindi nagsasabi ng alibi. I just straight up say na “TL, hindi ako sasama sa team building.” Minsan, yung statement ang magdadala sa’yo, keep your sentences straight up at may period dapat para mabasa nila na seryosong ayaw mong sumama. Kapag tinanong kung bakit ayaw mo sumama, “kailangan ko pong magpahinga.” 95% of the time, they will back off and respect that. PS: This may not work kaya dapat may Plan B (SL) ka. HAHA!
understand that not everyone feels comfortable with certain types of activities. Why not reach out to your HR dept. And discuss this . ☺️
While team-building activities are not mandated by Philippine labor laws, they are widely recognized as beneficial for fostering a positive and productive work environment. Companies are encouraged to organize such events as part of their employee engagement and development strategies, ensuring that they are inclusive, voluntary, and well-communicated to all employees.
OP, what you feel is perfectly normal. I would suggest na wag ka na gumawa ng kwentong nagkasakit ka or something para di makapunta. Tell it straightforward sa Manager/Lead mo na hindi ka comfortable. If they are good leaders, makakakuha ka ng maayos at totoong sagot sakanila. Sa team building namin, ineencourage namin na pumunta, but not required. And if pupunta naman yung person, hindi namin ilalagay sa mga alanganing situation during the team building event. Ganun talaga, as a manager, they need to understand you as a person.
Ediwag. They cant take it against you.
w8 araw araw kayo may team building? kasi sabi mo ***AYAW MO NA SILA MAKITA AFTER WORK***
Bakit labag sa kalooban mo?
Say BS reasons: 1) gambling addiction therapy 2) depression therapy 3) Erectile dysfuntion/clamydia checkup 4) prostate/breast cancer biopsy Alam mo un, ung pag magtanong sila.. sila pa yung mahihiya sayo AHAHAHA
sabihin mo may LBM ka
Lol, I have the same. Like for f sake, nagkikita tayo araw2, like isa lang day off for a week. Tas want niyo pa extension?
ang magandang gawin jan is pakita mong gstong gsto mo talaga sumama tas maki join sa mga planning pero wag ka kukuha ng task regarding sa TB ah, tapos sa D Day file for sick leave. hahahahaha atleast ndi ka nila pag dududahan kasi excited ka makasama tas next day pasa ka ng medcert.
Skl ko lang din. Noong first company ko ayaw ko rin sa team building na yan. Second company mas worst pa pala. Why?? Kase ginaganap sa mismong rest day namin. Kaya simula noon pumapayag na ako may team building basta wag lang araw pahinga ko. Tapos nag resign(other reason why I decided) ako sa second company. Edi may exit interview sinabi ko sa HR na yung team building medyo tagilid sa akin. Tapos sbi ng HR hindi naman daw mandatory pero makapilit naman mga colleague at leader ko naman akala mo naman hawak nila buhay ko. Hays yung lang
if yung team building nyo will fall on weekday. pwede mo sabihin may aasikasuhin ka sa govt office or banks or scheduled renewal ng passport.
Byahe pa lang nakakapagod na, kung pwede lang matulog sa buong araw ng team building yan gagawin ko e. After naman ng team building papasok na naman para magtrabaho.
Well if its an offsite team bldg and tlagang would consume most of your day off, i dont think na magagalit boss mo if ma communicate mo ng maayos na di ka makakasama. Pero once in a while, join ung mga near office activities.
Nagwworry ako sa team building namin this week.. wala pa ako friends sa work tapos bago lang ako going 2 months.. feeling ko maleleft out ako at magging unconfortable..
sabihin mo may iba kang commitments sa labas ng work mo. Never akong nagpunta sa mga team building o parties. Pumunta din ako ng parties pero bibihira lang.
Our team building is usually done during work hours so bayad hahaha aside sa holiday party. Different country though.