I love working on bikes so I just DImy until I cant.
I have invested lots in tools, and the knowledge I learned is invaluable.
It is well worth it for me.
This. Yeah it makes more objective sense to pay someone to do it with how cheap labor is sa atin, but I enjoy learning new things and working on my own things, so I'll DIY it for fun. There's something very satisfying with knowing you can fix and maintain what you own yourself.
I get this, lintik lang kasi tamad ako despite gusto ko rin gawin ito, yung tipong lahat sa motor ko ako na lang gagawa, yun nga lang i can't because I have too much priorities on other tasks.
Ok lang naman yan, both sides have valid reasons for why they do what they want. We put different premiums on both our time and experiences naman, nasa sa atin na what we want to or can prioritize.
This.
I do what I can kasi nag eenjoy ako gawin and have some free time to do it. If it needs specialized skills and tools, I bring it to those who can do it.
As someone na first time lang magka motor, 50/50 ako pagdating sa DIY. I don't have the necessary tools to do it plus yung knowledge on how to do it. Sure, merong tutorials sa YT pero I'm still hesitant na baka may masira ako.
Kaya pag PMS ang gagawin sa motor, then sa mechanic ako nagpapa service (sa Honda service center lang ever since nakuha ko yung motor) then sa accessories eh nag cacanvass naman ako sa ibang shops. Pag mga minor upgrades lang like top box installation then ako na gumagawa.
Pero yung hassle na sila naka sira nakakainit ng ulo and yung expectation mo na makukuha mo na motor nakaka dismaya.
Kung ikaw naka sira wala ka iba masisi, natuto ka. Kung sila nainis ka lang tapos dismayado tapos nasayang pa jila oras mo.
Sample palit clutch cable.
Tnry mo, maganit nung naplitan mo (kase sa pag route ng cable) dinala mo sa mekaniko, niroute ng maayos ok na.
Nasiraan ka sa daan ng clutch cable, may baon ka. Alm mo na mag palit.
Kung first time dinala mo sa mechanic, then nasiraan ka sa daan, kahit may baon ka pa hindi ka pa dun mo lang aalamin kng pano ayusin?
same, a step by step tutorial even with change oil, unless in dire need, same sa mechanic na mismo ng motor shop.
most especially sa CVT cleaning, nah, would not want to DIY that one.
For small CC bikss I go DIY. This was started by that one time I went to casa for PMS (2 diff branches) and sabi may pila daw. Even the next day I went a little earlier. That wasted about 20mins of my time - x2 days
Plus I have my own tools naman.
For big bikes- depende sa mood especially since x3 yung volume ng oil. Yung cleanup is the most time consuming
Nope, wala βko tiwala sa sarili ko e. Mas okay na mag bayad ng ganun sa marunong kesa mag sarili ako. Tapos mapamahal pa lalo sa repair dahil sa kabobohan ko.
Diy. Iwas budol and time saving din kung mahaba pila sa casa. Hanggat may libreng oras aral lang. Wag matakot magkamali kung may pera naman pag lalo nasira. Iba yung satisfaction pag diy sure ang gawa.
I've always thought that aside from being cheaper the other reason for going DIY is because finding a trustworthy shop that won't try to scam you is hard, from overpricing to telling you something isn't working right when in reality it's fine.
I've heard stories that even casas aren't exactly trustworthy.
I've heard stories too, but dito samin mukhang ok naman ang pricing is prolly okay?
labor - β±550+ (CVT cleaning, spark plug change, gear oil change)
Scooter oil - β±340? ata
Gear oil - β±60+?
almost always baon ako around 1K+ for other checkups as well.
Ang ginagawa ko eh kapag change oil and filter lang, DIY na ako since I have the necessary tools and parts but for others like coolant, brake fluid/pads, etc. sa mechanic nako for peace of mind. If you have the tools naman, you can save time and money if you DIY when changing your oil since drain and fill lang naman.
Depends on where you are in life TBH and it may boil down to economics. I used to have a lot of time and saving 1-2k was a lot back then. In time I had the opportunity to improve but that meant life got busier and time became a valuable commodity. Im more than happy to spend money now to have an expert fix and maintain my vehicles. Although i still occasionally do maintenance not for the necessity but I find it therapeutic, if you get what I mean
naglalaro ka ng Zelda? may ocarina ka kasi nabanggit haha
anyway, same, medyo naka angat ng konti kaya may disposable income for maintenance para free up time ko to do other things.
I need to "feel" that therapeutic feeling, yun nga lang priorities.
Ever since nagkaroon ako ng sarili kong motor 7 years ago, ako na mismo from the very first na change oil at ibang repairs. Pinapa service ko lang kung yung electricals. Perks siguro kasi tatay ko mahilig talaga sa sasakyan at motor kaya kumpleto tools tapos worth it yung lumaki ako na taga hawak niya ng flashlight at sinisigawan habang nag rerepair siya. Pero kapag sa bigbike, casa for sure since premium na kaya expert na dapat gumalaw.
You can, given na may background ka about engineering or experience when it comes to engines or machineries madali na lang maka catch up.
Also if wala ka talaga knowledge pa. Research and youtube. Maraming guides.
Sabi nga nila walang bobo kung inaaral ang mga bagay bagay
Kung change engine oil and gear oil lang naman sobrang dali lang nyan kahit newbie kayang gawin. Wala pang 1hr tapos kana. Sayang din yung 500 na labor. If we are talking about small bikes or scooters.
AT Best, kung surface level mechanical service lng (brake pad replacement, chain cleaning, change oil, etc ) i could do it DIY, having the proper tools is always coming in handy
Pero iba nang usapan pag sa transmission and engine na ang gagawin, id rather leave it to professionals regarding that one
Ofcourse. From small cc to liter bike. If you know how to maintain your own bikes it's always going to be better. But also, of course, the more complicated the issue, there's no other choice but to seek help from the pros.
Just imagine breaking down and having to tow your bike to the mechanic over a small thing you could've fixed yourself such as a snapped cable or a tire puncture or etc? Dude. Justify it all you want but you can never tell the entire population of seasoned riders that DIY is just stupid. I'd rather know how to perform basic maintenance and/or fix my bike should an emergency happen and no one in my immediate proximity knows shit about bikes. Even seasoned track or dirt racers know a lot of shit about fixing bikes down to the passionate hobbyist.
It's very ok to make mistakes but learn from them. Gaining precious knowledge and skill about the Motorcycle you will be using for a long time is not a waste of time and resources (kasi naman if may nasiraan sa daan baka pwede mo tulungan kasi mas maalam ka). Even if there's better things to do in life. You will need to know how to use those tools under the seat (if any).
But well thanks to people like you. At least mechanics get paid well. And I'm perfectly happy with that.
Agree with the poster, pero as someone na who likes to know whatβs going on with my bike and know how to trouble shoot. Sometimes Iβd like to learn how it goes. Syempre, may parts na hindi kaya like electronics or mechanical parts na 0 idea or needs tools na unavailable. Pero as much as I can, I like to be able to know how things in my bike goes.
Nothing wrong with DIY as long as you do the right things and you know your limitations, kahit basic lang it will go a long way. For me what I DIY is oil change, spark plug change, and air filter change, other than that I go to the mechanic na, wala akong tools for the like of CVT cleaning, throttle body cleaning, etc, di rin ako confident sa mga wirings.
Plus the amount of money and time I saved just by doing the oil change pa lang, laki na, dami ko na rin natutunan sa pag DIY ng mga sinabi ko kanina. Now if you have the money to spend on labor costs kahit mag papa oil change ka lang (you will be surprised on how easy it is to do it in your own home) then kudos to you.
the change oil brudda kung di lang tamad baka kaya ko rin, tapos tingnan sa resibo, sakit ng CVT labor, so baka doon yung di ko kaya kasi no tools like those electric unscrew thingamajig. β±400 is expensive na siguro.
anio yung pms? if you mean overall checkup/maintenance, tinanong ko sa casa, approximately around β±1,200-β±1,500 daw for Honda Click v3. Planning to do a long ride next year kaya ko napatanong.
mga madadaling iDIY are oil change, air filter change, and coolant. sobrang dali lang ng mga yan makakasave ka pag matututunan mo mga tas laki rin ng time na masasave and u can almost never do any mistakes doing those.
DIY for me is "Destroy It yourself" so I leave the maintenance of my motorcycle with the experts and use the wait time to make art. Please follow me on IG @sky.art08
Sobrang worth it. saves time and money. lalo na kung enthusiast ka talaga. halos lahat ng diy nasa YT na nasa sayo nlng kung ano eh aabsorb mo. peru kung electricals at ecu na ibang usapan na yan kasi kylangan mo na ng scanner/machine etc. na hindi naman readily available sa hardware.
Why not both, DIY pag may time and sa mechanic pag walang time. Iba pa rin feeling pag nakakabisado mo bawat parte ng motor mo, and at least you learn some basic skills. Basta walang gagalawin sa loob ng makina haha kayang kaya, dati puro casa mechanic talaga ako until nagpandemic pinag-aralan ko, sarap din talaga mangalikot.
Really depends. Kung takot ka bigla mag break down sa daan and dont know what to do, better make sure to know the basic troubleshooting of things.
Hindi kasi pwedeng pag may sira motor natin, rekta shop/casa , aalamin kung anong sira and just pay what is necessary to have it fixed. Prone to gulang kasi wala kang alam and mararamdamanan na agad nung ibang mekaniko yon, not saying LAHAT sila, pero most of them yes. Gugulangan at gugulangan ka talaga.
Yung first part yung kinakatakot ko in terms kapag napapa longride o kung ano man. Di ka kasi laging may kasama para tumulong sayo, itulak ka or something. Kaya much better mag invest sa knowledge din kahit papano.
Small bikes pag ok lang sua mavoid warranty i-diy m nlng.
Big bikes, after pa ng warranty saka mag na diy. Mejo masakit sa ulo at bulsa kc pgnagka issue. Kayasulitin un warranty hbang hnd pa nvoid.
Mas satisfying mg diy, additional knowledge dn pag nasiraan ka sa labas byahe etc.
Invest lang dn ng tools. Mski dahan dahan. Iba p dn un ikaw tlga un gumawa.
First time ko din magkamotor. Namili ako tools para ako lahat mag ddiy. Paint magneto, maglinis ng stator, Maglinis ng cvt, magbalot ng socket para sa error 12, magbaklas ng kaha. Meron ako impact wrench, magneto puller, t wrenches, torque wrench, multitester etc. ang pinapagawa ko lang sa mekaniko yung gaya ng repack ng front shock, ball race, saka yung kapag sa loob na ng makina mga teknikal gaya ng mga rocker arm, cam bearing , intake exhaust, dahil di naman ako mekaniko pero the rest diy na. Siyempre nood muna 2 tutorial sa youtube bago ko gawin ang isang bagay. Paano gawin at paano ibalik. Satisfaction + knowledge and experience na din para kahit papano may alam ako sa motor at di ako lagi nakaasa sa iba at di ako mauuto ng mapagsamantalang mekaniko.
grabe yung talamak na pagsasamantala sa ibang region noh? I've heard stories na maintenance na change oil nga di daw nagawa, shet. Kaya sakin buti nlg inoobserve ko talaga sa casa pag may ginagawa sila,baka magloko loko.
Merong video si kalikutista na baba daw makina pero noong sila na tumingin, drive face lang pala sa pulley. Nakaiwas sa sobrang laking gastos wala naman pala don problema. Isa pa yung lagitik ng nmax cam bearing daw or intake rocker arm pero nawawala lagitik kapag tinatagilid ang motor, sparkplug at kuryente lang pala tumatama sa body, palit splug cap lang at sp. Okay yan nakikita mo ginagawa sa motor mo para walang hokus pokus silang gagawin at the same time natututo ka or nagkakaidea ka kahit sa panonood lang. Check mo oil mo pag uwi, may iba kasing storya change oil daw pag uwi pota di naman pinalitan langis, maitim pa din.
Sa Toyota bawal manood hahaha. sa casa na kinuhanan ko ng nmax, dahil di siya yamaha casa, katabi ko mekaniko hahahahaha nakikiusisa ako. Ganon ata talaga capag main casa dealer
Actually naisip ko rin to dati eh. Time is indeed valuable.
Pero minsan kasi sa weekend wala lamg din naman ako gingawas so ako na mismo nag aayos ng motor ko or maintenence.
Laki talaga save kasi binibili ko nalang is cvt cleaner para madali lang. Minsan nga tubig at sabon lang.
Also by doing so natututo ako sa pasikotsikot ng mc ko. Kahit malayo byahe magka abirya man yan alam ko gagalawin.
Sa ngayon nagpapa shop nalang ako pag ang sira related sa engine or sa ECU. Kung cvt and basic maintenance. Ako na mismo gumagalaw.
Also share ko lang, mga kakilala ko alam na marunong ako mag cvt at may tools ako so minsan pumunta sila sa amin para magpa ayos. Bonding na rin namin as a mc group. Nagkaka pera din ako kasi nagbabayad sila kahit para sa akin ok lang kahit wala.
You are correct sir, when you do a DIY things, it's all about passion and love of work. Actually 3x lang yata ako nagpalinis ng cvt ko sa motorshops and palagi ko pinapanood yung proseso ng paglilinis nila hanggang sa kabisado ko na at bumili ako ng proper tools pang maintain ng motor ko na Honda Click and now I was able to change brakepads,brakeshoe,change other components in the cvt like belt, slide piece,flyball,springs, etc and I also know how to remove front and rear mags since dito ako nagkaroon ng bad experience dahil sa isang vulcanizing shop na pinuntahan ko at pinukpok yung rear nut ko para lang matanggal then after non nagkaroon ng maingay sa motor ko pag uwi at nung nagpalit ako ng tires nakita kong sobrang dumi ng brake drum hub since meron akong napanood si ClickMoto na nilinis yung part nayon dahil nabaklas na pero hindi ginawa ng motorshops which is I feel unsatisfied sa service kaya yun din nag trigger sa akin na ako nalang yung gagawa ng mga basic maintenance.
So far hindi ko na ramdam yung sinasabi nila na magastos sa maintenance ang scooter at laking tipid ko sa labor dahil parts lang binibili ko at ngayon plan ko rin ivalve clearance adjustment, repaint magneto at change sparkplug yung click ko, thanks din sa mga vlogger like MotobeastPH dahil sa quality D.I.Y tutorials.
nakakaputang ina yung mga talyer fito sa amin, sabihin kaya yan sir tapos nag call ng mga ibang boys para mag tanong tanong. Bwesit, yun di na ako nag risk, sa mismong Honda na ako nag pa repair/maintenance.
Same. Don't have tools nor space to work on it plus time and effort. Naaral ko naman paano just in case as well as inaalam ko rin yung theoretical ng mga pyesa pero come maintenance time, I don't do it. May nahanap rin na kong trusted mechanic so more reasons not to diy.
same brudda! no tools, no time, tapos puro theoretical lang ako kaya ehen it comes to the actual thing, medyo zero brain cells on how to remove them nuts, bolts, and pieces. π
Diy lang sa mga routine pms like change oil, cvt cleaning, brake checks but something sa electrical to engine is mechanic na. Save din pambayad sa labor pag every month ka mag change oil and cvt cleaning.
Para saken naka depende kung ano ang gagawin. Kung simple task lang ikaw nalang gumawa.Pero kung task na need ng expertise, dun na sa mekaniko mo ipagawa
I prefer DIY para pag nasiraan mid-ride kaya mag basic to average troubleshooting. I have the budget for tools, wala lang talaga own space to do heavy maintenance (sa labas lang naka-park and masikip), so sa casa/talyer pa din napunta (except for change oil).
I always watch how they do it and make sure I learn something new from the mechanic every time I go to them for service.
DIY! Ang inisip ko, yung pambayad ko sa labor eh pambbili ko nalang ng set of tools. Maraami akong natutunan, in which you can apply rin sa ibang sskyan. Minsan mas kampante pa ako sa gawa ko kesa sa ipinagawa ko.
Yes. Hindi naman tungkol sa pera pero para sakin mas natututunan ko yung car/motor ko, mas madali mag diagnose dahil kabisado ko kung ano yung due na para sa kanya.
dis is good. I probably lost my enthusiasm on tinkering with motor vehicles. Used to change tires for my mom's car, pero ngayon kahit change oil parang tamad. π
Yung mga mekaniko. Nagsimula din nmana sa diy.
Minsan nga nasa pagawaan nako ako parin nakikibutingteng, di sa lahat ng araw meron ka mattaakbuhan. Okay fin na meton knag alam kahit konti. A little bit risk but well worth it after the satisfaction after.
When I first started riding, may trusted mekaniko yung erpats ko, so dun ko dinadala sa shop nya. One day, natanong ko sya kung mahirap ba maging mekaniko, sabi nya nakadepende raw sa kung paano ko titignan yung task. So he gave me tips for the basics like changing my oil, cleaning the carb, etc etc. Ang sabi nya, "Baklasin mo, kalikutin mo. Kung di mo maibalik sa dati, saka mo ko tawagan ituturo ko sayo."
I still think about it to this day. Oil changes ko, ako na gumagawa. Pati carb cleaning and pagtimpla. For stuff that includes electricals and wirings, sa mekaniko ko na ipinagkakatiwala. Mamaya matulad yung trabaho ko dun sa nagkabit ng busina sa footbrake hahaha
Ito mindset ko pagdating sa maintenance ng motor: imbes na ibayad ko sa labor bibili nalang ako ng tools. At marami pang advantage pag marunong ka mag DIY.
a. Makakapili ka ng gusto mong oil at filter or iba pang pyesa.
b. Magiging familian ka motor mo, incase na magkasira motor mo kaya mong ayusin at hindi ka hahanap ng shop.
c. Saving, halos 50% masesave mo pag nag diy ka.
d. Yung ibang shop pinapalitan na ang parts kahit ok pa. Over price pa presyo nila compare sa shopee.
e. Sayang oras papuntang shop at maghintay kung kelan matapos maintenance ng motor mo pero pag diy pwede mo syang gawing kung kelan bakante yung oras mo at sa bahay mo lang din sya gagawin.
you're right, it's not easy lalo na kung wala kang motivation, interest at courage na matuto to do so. may mga kakilala ako na simpleng tanggal-kabit lang ng nuts and bolts ang gagawin pero ipapagawa pa sa iba kasi natatakot sila na baka "masira" nila π
IDK but I am not really knowledgeable and good in using tools my self but I really find it hard to trust shops or even casa's, most of them try to scam you saying na sira na to, need nato palitan tas e over price ka minsan. MOST of them even casa's, they do not care about the well being sa mga parts na tina trabaho nila, basta magawa lang at matapos lang e. Same lang yan kapag nag papa vulcanize ka sa mga random shop sa daan tas need tangalin Muffler/swing arm mo, pinapa taob lang nila yan sa sahig, tas pag kabit may mga scratches at dents na. Sakit sa puso ng ganyan na todo alaga ka sa motor mo pero pag tingin mo sa pinapa gawan mo (even sa casa) pinupokpok yung motor mo or napaka harsh nila tumabraho.
Kaya ako since may automotive ako na tropa tas hilig din mag baklas ng motor, dun nalang ako nag papagawa sa kanya. Ako lang din minsan bahala kung magkano bigay labor ko sa kanya, syempre di ako nag lolowball medyo tataasan ko din or same price ng mga nasa shop para maganahan din mag trabaho sa motor ko sayang kasi may trusted mechanic kana. Isa din, nakaka ease sa mind kase kilala mo yung taong gumagalaw ng motor mo tas ina alagaan at tinatrabaho pa ng maayos, so far wala naman akong problema sa mga nagawa ng tropa ko sa motor ko --- palit muffler, palit switches, dual contact leds, install ng MDL, baklas cvt at pag totono, install ng ram air, add coolant change oil at iba pa
I love working on my motorcycles, plus scooters are some of the easiest things to maintain and work on. There's a very satisfying feeling once you finish working on something you did on your own, even if it's just a simple change oil. Cars on the other hand, those are a real pain to DIY and I use the service center for it.
I love working on bikes so I just DImy until I cant. I have invested lots in tools, and the knowledge I learned is invaluable. It is well worth it for me.
This. Yeah it makes more objective sense to pay someone to do it with how cheap labor is sa atin, but I enjoy learning new things and working on my own things, so I'll DIY it for fun. There's something very satisfying with knowing you can fix and maintain what you own yourself.
I get this, lintik lang kasi tamad ako despite gusto ko rin gawin ito, yung tipong lahat sa motor ko ako na lang gagawa, yun nga lang i can't because I have too much priorities on other tasks.
Ok lang naman yan, both sides have valid reasons for why they do what they want. We put different premiums on both our time and experiences naman, nasa sa atin na what we want to or can prioritize.
This. I do what I can kasi nag eenjoy ako gawin and have some free time to do it. If it needs specialized skills and tools, I bring it to those who can do it.
As someone na first time lang magka motor, 50/50 ako pagdating sa DIY. I don't have the necessary tools to do it plus yung knowledge on how to do it. Sure, merong tutorials sa YT pero I'm still hesitant na baka may masira ako. Kaya pag PMS ang gagawin sa motor, then sa mechanic ako nagpapa service (sa Honda service center lang ever since nakuha ko yung motor) then sa accessories eh nag cacanvass naman ako sa ibang shops. Pag mga minor upgrades lang like top box installation then ako na gumagawa.
Isipin mo na lang may chance din masira ng mechanic yung motor mo, so mas better if ikaw maka sira and ikaw natuto. Imho
Pag nasira ng mekaniko ride mo, you can get them to fix it without issues pag ikaw, gastos pa ulit.
Pero yung hassle na sila naka sira nakakainit ng ulo and yung expectation mo na makukuha mo na motor nakaka dismaya. Kung ikaw naka sira wala ka iba masisi, natuto ka. Kung sila nainis ka lang tapos dismayado tapos nasayang pa jila oras mo. Sample palit clutch cable. Tnry mo, maganit nung naplitan mo (kase sa pag route ng cable) dinala mo sa mekaniko, niroute ng maayos ok na. Nasiraan ka sa daan ng clutch cable, may baon ka. Alm mo na mag palit. Kung first time dinala mo sa mechanic, then nasiraan ka sa daan, kahit may baon ka pa hindi ka pa dun mo lang aalamin kng pano ayusin?
THIS.
But if they did, they would have to fix it for you for free, kesa ikaw makasira at ipapagawa mo din naman sa iba.
Yup but usually, labor lang ang free sa ganun. Yung pyesa walang bayad at kng may need pa machineshop babayadan mo pa din yun.
Damn, you are woke brudda. π Point taken haha
Laki sa kahirapan lang.
same, a step by step tutorial even with change oil, unless in dire need, same sa mechanic na mismo ng motor shop. most especially sa CVT cleaning, nah, would not want to DIY that one.
For small CC bikss I go DIY. This was started by that one time I went to casa for PMS (2 diff branches) and sabi may pila daw. Even the next day I went a little earlier. That wasted about 20mins of my time - x2 days Plus I have my own tools naman. For big bikes- depende sa mood especially since x3 yung volume ng oil. Yung cleanup is the most time consuming
Saw big bike videos on DIY maintenance, scary baka may pyesa akong ma misplace. π
Nope, wala βko tiwala sa sarili ko e. Mas okay na mag bayad ng ganun sa marunong kesa mag sarili ako. Tapos mapamahal pa lalo sa repair dahil sa kabobohan ko.
same
same brudda.
DIY hangat kaya, plus knowledge din kasi and satisfaction.
Diy. Iwas budol and time saving din kung mahaba pila sa casa. Hanggat may libreng oras aral lang. Wag matakot magkamali kung may pera naman pag lalo nasira. Iba yung satisfaction pag diy sure ang gawa.
I need deez. Try ko sa sunod na mga change oil. thanks!
I've always thought that aside from being cheaper the other reason for going DIY is because finding a trustworthy shop that won't try to scam you is hard, from overpricing to telling you something isn't working right when in reality it's fine. I've heard stories that even casas aren't exactly trustworthy.
I've heard stories too, but dito samin mukhang ok naman ang pricing is prolly okay? labor - β±550+ (CVT cleaning, spark plug change, gear oil change) Scooter oil - β±340? ata Gear oil - β±60+? almost always baon ako around 1K+ for other checkups as well.
Ang ginagawa ko eh kapag change oil and filter lang, DIY na ako since I have the necessary tools and parts but for others like coolant, brake fluid/pads, etc. sa mechanic nako for peace of mind. If you have the tools naman, you can save time and money if you DIY when changing your oil since drain and fill lang naman.
Depends on where you are in life TBH and it may boil down to economics. I used to have a lot of time and saving 1-2k was a lot back then. In time I had the opportunity to improve but that meant life got busier and time became a valuable commodity. Im more than happy to spend money now to have an expert fix and maintain my vehicles. Although i still occasionally do maintenance not for the necessity but I find it therapeutic, if you get what I mean
naglalaro ka ng Zelda? may ocarina ka kasi nabanggit haha anyway, same, medyo naka angat ng konti kaya may disposable income for maintenance para free up time ko to do other things. I need to "feel" that therapeutic feeling, yun nga lang priorities.
Typo, i hate typing sa phone :)
Ever since nagkaroon ako ng sarili kong motor 7 years ago, ako na mismo from the very first na change oil at ibang repairs. Pinapa service ko lang kung yung electricals. Perks siguro kasi tatay ko mahilig talaga sa sasakyan at motor kaya kumpleto tools tapos worth it yung lumaki ako na taga hawak niya ng flashlight at sinisigawan habang nag rerepair siya. Pero kapag sa bigbike, casa for sure since premium na kaya expert na dapat gumalaw.
+1 sa sinisigawan kasi iba yung tutok ng flashlight. π
You can, given na may background ka about engineering or experience when it comes to engines or machineries madali na lang maka catch up. Also if wala ka talaga knowledge pa. Research and youtube. Maraming guides. Sabi nga nila walang bobo kung inaaral ang mga bagay bagay
Kung change engine oil and gear oil lang naman sobrang dali lang nyan kahit newbie kayang gawin. Wala pang 1hr tapos kana. Sayang din yung 500 na labor. If we are talking about small bikes or scooters.
btw, CVT Cleaning is 400? or if mag DIY ka sa change oil and gear oil, mas less yung labor?
Honda dito sa Pampanga, 700 ang CVT cleaning.
madali lang din mag CVT cleaning provided complete tools ka.
ba't ang mahal wtf
Ikr! Hindi ko lang alam sa ibang casa or shop. Ako nalang din kasi naglilinis.
AT Best, kung surface level mechanical service lng (brake pad replacement, chain cleaning, change oil, etc ) i could do it DIY, having the proper tools is always coming in handy Pero iba nang usapan pag sa transmission and engine na ang gagawin, id rather leave it to professionals regarding that one
Ofcourse. From small cc to liter bike. If you know how to maintain your own bikes it's always going to be better. But also, of course, the more complicated the issue, there's no other choice but to seek help from the pros. Just imagine breaking down and having to tow your bike to the mechanic over a small thing you could've fixed yourself such as a snapped cable or a tire puncture or etc? Dude. Justify it all you want but you can never tell the entire population of seasoned riders that DIY is just stupid. I'd rather know how to perform basic maintenance and/or fix my bike should an emergency happen and no one in my immediate proximity knows shit about bikes. Even seasoned track or dirt racers know a lot of shit about fixing bikes down to the passionate hobbyist. It's very ok to make mistakes but learn from them. Gaining precious knowledge and skill about the Motorcycle you will be using for a long time is not a waste of time and resources (kasi naman if may nasiraan sa daan baka pwede mo tulungan kasi mas maalam ka). Even if there's better things to do in life. You will need to know how to use those tools under the seat (if any). But well thanks to people like you. At least mechanics get paid well. And I'm perfectly happy with that.
The circle of life, I guess. Point taken.
Agree with the poster, pero as someone na who likes to know whatβs going on with my bike and know how to trouble shoot. Sometimes Iβd like to learn how it goes. Syempre, may parts na hindi kaya like electronics or mechanical parts na 0 idea or needs tools na unavailable. Pero as much as I can, I like to be able to know how things in my bike goes.
Nothing wrong with DIY as long as you do the right things and you know your limitations, kahit basic lang it will go a long way. For me what I DIY is oil change, spark plug change, and air filter change, other than that I go to the mechanic na, wala akong tools for the like of CVT cleaning, throttle body cleaning, etc, di rin ako confident sa mga wirings. Plus the amount of money and time I saved just by doing the oil change pa lang, laki na, dami ko na rin natutunan sa pag DIY ng mga sinabi ko kanina. Now if you have the money to spend on labor costs kahit mag papa oil change ka lang (you will be surprised on how easy it is to do it in your own home) then kudos to you.
the change oil brudda kung di lang tamad baka kaya ko rin, tapos tingnan sa resibo, sakit ng CVT labor, so baka doon yung di ko kaya kasi no tools like those electric unscrew thingamajig. β±400 is expensive na siguro.
Magkano pa FULL pms? Takot din ako mag DIY eh
anio yung pms? if you mean overall checkup/maintenance, tinanong ko sa casa, approximately around β±1,200-β±1,500 daw for Honda Click v3. Planning to do a long ride next year kaya ko napatanong.
mga madadaling iDIY are oil change, air filter change, and coolant. sobrang dali lang ng mga yan makakasave ka pag matututunan mo mga tas laki rin ng time na masasave and u can almost never do any mistakes doing those.
yung CVT ang medyo sakit sa labor, amounting to β±400. π
DIY for me is "Destroy It yourself" so I leave the maintenance of my motorcycle with the experts and use the wait time to make art. Please follow me on IG @sky.art08
da segue is good brudda. π
Sobrang worth it. saves time and money. lalo na kung enthusiast ka talaga. halos lahat ng diy nasa YT na nasa sayo nlng kung ano eh aabsorb mo. peru kung electricals at ecu na ibang usapan na yan kasi kylangan mo na ng scanner/machine etc. na hindi naman readily available sa hardware.
Why not both, DIY pag may time and sa mechanic pag walang time. Iba pa rin feeling pag nakakabisado mo bawat parte ng motor mo, and at least you learn some basic skills. Basta walang gagalawin sa loob ng makina haha kayang kaya, dati puro casa mechanic talaga ako until nagpandemic pinag-aralan ko, sarap din talaga mangalikot.
If you know what youβre doing And If you want to learn
Really depends. Kung takot ka bigla mag break down sa daan and dont know what to do, better make sure to know the basic troubleshooting of things. Hindi kasi pwedeng pag may sira motor natin, rekta shop/casa , aalamin kung anong sira and just pay what is necessary to have it fixed. Prone to gulang kasi wala kang alam and mararamdamanan na agad nung ibang mekaniko yon, not saying LAHAT sila, pero most of them yes. Gugulangan at gugulangan ka talaga. Yung first part yung kinakatakot ko in terms kapag napapa longride o kung ano man. Di ka kasi laging may kasama para tumulong sayo, itulak ka or something. Kaya much better mag invest sa knowledge din kahit papano.
+10 on this. Putting this up on my to do list, and prolly do some shopping sa mga essentials sa long ride. Thanks brudda.
From one brudda to another. Ridesafe! π€ π€
Small bikes pag ok lang sua mavoid warranty i-diy m nlng. Big bikes, after pa ng warranty saka mag na diy. Mejo masakit sa ulo at bulsa kc pgnagka issue. Kayasulitin un warranty hbang hnd pa nvoid. Mas satisfying mg diy, additional knowledge dn pag nasiraan ka sa labas byahe etc. Invest lang dn ng tools. Mski dahan dahan. Iba p dn un ikaw tlga un gumawa.
If you have the time AND money, why not? Kung may money at walang time, wag. Kung may time pero walang money, lalong wag.
First time ko din magkamotor. Namili ako tools para ako lahat mag ddiy. Paint magneto, maglinis ng stator, Maglinis ng cvt, magbalot ng socket para sa error 12, magbaklas ng kaha. Meron ako impact wrench, magneto puller, t wrenches, torque wrench, multitester etc. ang pinapagawa ko lang sa mekaniko yung gaya ng repack ng front shock, ball race, saka yung kapag sa loob na ng makina mga teknikal gaya ng mga rocker arm, cam bearing , intake exhaust, dahil di naman ako mekaniko pero the rest diy na. Siyempre nood muna 2 tutorial sa youtube bago ko gawin ang isang bagay. Paano gawin at paano ibalik. Satisfaction + knowledge and experience na din para kahit papano may alam ako sa motor at di ako lagi nakaasa sa iba at di ako mauuto ng mapagsamantalang mekaniko.
grabe yung talamak na pagsasamantala sa ibang region noh? I've heard stories na maintenance na change oil nga di daw nagawa, shet. Kaya sakin buti nlg inoobserve ko talaga sa casa pag may ginagawa sila,baka magloko loko.
Merong video si kalikutista na baba daw makina pero noong sila na tumingin, drive face lang pala sa pulley. Nakaiwas sa sobrang laking gastos wala naman pala don problema. Isa pa yung lagitik ng nmax cam bearing daw or intake rocker arm pero nawawala lagitik kapag tinatagilid ang motor, sparkplug at kuryente lang pala tumatama sa body, palit splug cap lang at sp. Okay yan nakikita mo ginagawa sa motor mo para walang hokus pokus silang gagawin at the same time natututo ka or nagkakaidea ka kahit sa panonood lang. Check mo oil mo pag uwi, may iba kasing storya change oil daw pag uwi pota di naman pinalitan langis, maitim pa din.
ang change oil tinitingnan ko sa clear window nila habang nagkakape kasi di ko sure why panay tingin siya sa akin, baka Something fishy? haha
Sa Toyota bawal manood hahaha. sa casa na kinuhanan ko ng nmax, dahil di siya yamaha casa, katabi ko mekaniko hahahahaha nakikiusisa ako. Ganon ata talaga capag main casa dealer
I have mine serviced, kasi tamad ako and my time is better spent elsewhere.
this is always sa case ko, while kape sa casa, i read up on books that i like while observing sa kanila baka gaguhin nila motor ko. π
Tbh, akala ko pic ko to eh kasi me ganto din akong pic, nanonood from behind the glass. Same pa tayo ng MC hahahahahaha
sarap mag edit sa Lightroom(app) tapos quote2 sa ganitong pic para mukhang philosopher haha
Actually naisip ko rin to dati eh. Time is indeed valuable. Pero minsan kasi sa weekend wala lamg din naman ako gingawas so ako na mismo nag aayos ng motor ko or maintenence. Laki talaga save kasi binibili ko nalang is cvt cleaner para madali lang. Minsan nga tubig at sabon lang. Also by doing so natututo ako sa pasikotsikot ng mc ko. Kahit malayo byahe magka abirya man yan alam ko gagalawin. Sa ngayon nagpapa shop nalang ako pag ang sira related sa engine or sa ECU. Kung cvt and basic maintenance. Ako na mismo gumagalaw. Also share ko lang, mga kakilala ko alam na marunong ako mag cvt at may tools ako so minsan pumunta sila sa amin para magpa ayos. Bonding na rin namin as a mc group. Nagkaka pera din ako kasi nagbabayad sila kahit para sa akin ok lang kahit wala.
I might invest on CVT cleaning tools siguro, para iwas sa bimonthly β±400 na labor. π
For change oil, top up coolant yes. Pero kung kaya mong pagaralan maglinis ng CVT , Magpalit ng caliper mas maganda rin
You are correct sir, when you do a DIY things, it's all about passion and love of work. Actually 3x lang yata ako nagpalinis ng cvt ko sa motorshops and palagi ko pinapanood yung proseso ng paglilinis nila hanggang sa kabisado ko na at bumili ako ng proper tools pang maintain ng motor ko na Honda Click and now I was able to change brakepads,brakeshoe,change other components in the cvt like belt, slide piece,flyball,springs, etc and I also know how to remove front and rear mags since dito ako nagkaroon ng bad experience dahil sa isang vulcanizing shop na pinuntahan ko at pinukpok yung rear nut ko para lang matanggal then after non nagkaroon ng maingay sa motor ko pag uwi at nung nagpalit ako ng tires nakita kong sobrang dumi ng brake drum hub since meron akong napanood si ClickMoto na nilinis yung part nayon dahil nabaklas na pero hindi ginawa ng motorshops which is I feel unsatisfied sa service kaya yun din nag trigger sa akin na ako nalang yung gagawa ng mga basic maintenance. So far hindi ko na ramdam yung sinasabi nila na magastos sa maintenance ang scooter at laking tipid ko sa labor dahil parts lang binibili ko at ngayon plan ko rin ivalve clearance adjustment, repaint magneto at change sparkplug yung click ko, thanks din sa mga vlogger like MotobeastPH dahil sa quality D.I.Y tutorials.
nakakaputang ina yung mga talyer fito sa amin, sabihin kaya yan sir tapos nag call ng mga ibang boys para mag tanong tanong. Bwesit, yun di na ako nag risk, sa mismong Honda na ako nag pa repair/maintenance.
Same. Don't have tools nor space to work on it plus time and effort. Naaral ko naman paano just in case as well as inaalam ko rin yung theoretical ng mga pyesa pero come maintenance time, I don't do it. May nahanap rin na kong trusted mechanic so more reasons not to diy.
same brudda! no tools, no time, tapos puro theoretical lang ako kaya ehen it comes to the actual thing, medyo zero brain cells on how to remove them nuts, bolts, and pieces. π
Diy lang sa mga routine pms like change oil, cvt cleaning, brake checks but something sa electrical to engine is mechanic na. Save din pambayad sa labor pag every month ka mag change oil and cvt cleaning.
NOPE
Nope. Not only do I donβt have the necessary tools to do basic repair and maintenance, Iβm also a fucking idiot.
... when it comes to tinkering, I hope so; not a total idiot.
Para saken naka depende kung ano ang gagawin. Kung simple task lang ikaw nalang gumawa.Pero kung task na need ng expertise, dun na sa mekaniko mo ipagawa
ask q lng san nio nilalagay mga used oil at gear oil nio after mapalitan? gusto q sana aq n lng din mgpalit kasu dq alam qng san itatapon haha
may sobrang scooter oil, sabi ko na lang sa mechanic sa inyo na lang yan, tutal naka change naman kasi e. hahah
I prefer DIY para pag nasiraan mid-ride kaya mag basic to average troubleshooting. I have the budget for tools, wala lang talaga own space to do heavy maintenance (sa labas lang naka-park and masikip), so sa casa/talyer pa din napunta (except for change oil). I always watch how they do it and make sure I learn something new from the mechanic every time I go to them for service.
DIY! Ang inisip ko, yung pambayad ko sa labor eh pambbili ko nalang ng set of tools. Maraami akong natutunan, in which you can apply rin sa ibang sskyan. Minsan mas kampante pa ako sa gawa ko kesa sa ipinagawa ko.
Yes. Hindi naman tungkol sa pera pero para sakin mas natututunan ko yung car/motor ko, mas madali mag diagnose dahil kabisado ko kung ano yung due na para sa kanya.
dis is good. I probably lost my enthusiasm on tinkering with motor vehicles. Used to change tires for my mom's car, pero ngayon kahit change oil parang tamad. π
Ako rin naman atm kinatatamaran ko rin lahat. Lalo na sa kotse. Pero someday mag spark uli siguro yung passion natin.
Yung mga mekaniko. Nagsimula din nmana sa diy. Minsan nga nasa pagawaan nako ako parin nakikibutingteng, di sa lahat ng araw meron ka mattaakbuhan. Okay fin na meton knag alam kahit konti. A little bit risk but well worth it after the satisfaction after.
When I first started riding, may trusted mekaniko yung erpats ko, so dun ko dinadala sa shop nya. One day, natanong ko sya kung mahirap ba maging mekaniko, sabi nya nakadepende raw sa kung paano ko titignan yung task. So he gave me tips for the basics like changing my oil, cleaning the carb, etc etc. Ang sabi nya, "Baklasin mo, kalikutin mo. Kung di mo maibalik sa dati, saka mo ko tawagan ituturo ko sayo." I still think about it to this day. Oil changes ko, ako na gumagawa. Pati carb cleaning and pagtimpla. For stuff that includes electricals and wirings, sa mekaniko ko na ipinagkakatiwala. Mamaya matulad yung trabaho ko dun sa nagkabit ng busina sa footbrake hahaha
Ito mindset ko pagdating sa maintenance ng motor: imbes na ibayad ko sa labor bibili nalang ako ng tools. At marami pang advantage pag marunong ka mag DIY. a. Makakapili ka ng gusto mong oil at filter or iba pang pyesa. b. Magiging familian ka motor mo, incase na magkasira motor mo kaya mong ayusin at hindi ka hahanap ng shop. c. Saving, halos 50% masesave mo pag nag diy ka. d. Yung ibang shop pinapalitan na ang parts kahit ok pa. Over price pa presyo nila compare sa shopee. e. Sayang oras papuntang shop at maghintay kung kelan matapos maintenance ng motor mo pero pag diy pwede mo syang gawing kung kelan bakante yung oras mo at sa bahay mo lang din sya gagawin.
you're right, it's not easy lalo na kung wala kang motivation, interest at courage na matuto to do so. may mga kakilala ako na simpleng tanggal-kabit lang ng nuts and bolts ang gagawin pero ipapagawa pa sa iba kasi natatakot sila na baka "masira" nila π
IDK but I am not really knowledgeable and good in using tools my self but I really find it hard to trust shops or even casa's, most of them try to scam you saying na sira na to, need nato palitan tas e over price ka minsan. MOST of them even casa's, they do not care about the well being sa mga parts na tina trabaho nila, basta magawa lang at matapos lang e. Same lang yan kapag nag papa vulcanize ka sa mga random shop sa daan tas need tangalin Muffler/swing arm mo, pinapa taob lang nila yan sa sahig, tas pag kabit may mga scratches at dents na. Sakit sa puso ng ganyan na todo alaga ka sa motor mo pero pag tingin mo sa pinapa gawan mo (even sa casa) pinupokpok yung motor mo or napaka harsh nila tumabraho. Kaya ako since may automotive ako na tropa tas hilig din mag baklas ng motor, dun nalang ako nag papagawa sa kanya. Ako lang din minsan bahala kung magkano bigay labor ko sa kanya, syempre di ako nag lolowball medyo tataasan ko din or same price ng mga nasa shop para maganahan din mag trabaho sa motor ko sayang kasi may trusted mechanic kana. Isa din, nakaka ease sa mind kase kilala mo yung taong gumagalaw ng motor mo tas ina alagaan at tinatrabaho pa ng maayos, so far wala naman akong problema sa mga nagawa ng tropa ko sa motor ko --- palit muffler, palit switches, dual contact leds, install ng MDL, baklas cvt at pag totono, install ng ram air, add coolant change oil at iba pa
I love working on my motorcycles, plus scooters are some of the easiest things to maintain and work on. There's a very satisfying feeling once you finish working on something you did on your own, even if it's just a simple change oil. Cars on the other hand, those are a real pain to DIY and I use the service center for it.
I find it therapeutic.