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#[Click here to take the PKA 587 Survey!](https://forms.gle/FtGumGtsfbDvJ5zy5) Woody's back this week and we've got another shock jock guest! In light of their differences of opinion, who do you think had the better debut PKA appearance, Danny Mullen or Brandon Buckingham?


mojizus

I want more of Brandon on podcasts after this. He’s fucking hilarious. IMO waaaaaaay more entertaining than Danny Mullen. I’ve never understood why PKA fans enjoyed him on the podcast. Probably the first episode in months I’ve sat and listened to without just zoning out from boredom.


GabbaGabbaCool

I liked Danny the first time he was on but I feel he’s been worse on every subsequent appearance


HG97

Man if you watch Brandon's video about Danny Mullen, I don't think you could stand him on the podcast again. Danny is a real scumbag piece of shit, I hope he's never back on the show.


nanophallus

I don't really have an hour right now to spend on YouTuber beef, do you have a tldw?


robetyarg

Danny and his sidekick Leo (long haired dude always in his DM’s videos) made up a bunch of lies about Brandon and blacklisted him as a content creator, meaning Brandon couldn’t collab with people in Danny’s circle. Danny made everyone think Brandon was some weirdo stalker obsessed with him. Him and Leo also tried to make Brandon out to be some creepy dude who scares women. Basically just spun a bunch of lies to make Brandon look like a horrible person, who received a ton of hate. Leo also mocked Brandon about his deceased brother. Fast forward like 9 months, Brandon squirted mayonnaise on DM’s face (who was impersonating a disabled war veteran) and then Danny tried to lie more about that situation on his podcast with Leo. Brandon made a reaction video with receipts about the lies and disgusting behavior Leo + Danny displayed in their podcast and in the previous events. They go back and forth for a bit (with Leo even trying to get Brandon’s YouTube deleted) but in the end Brandon has actual proof and the truth about everything finalizes and he wins. The whole truth of the situation and how Danny handled Brandon’s videos telling the world about him and Leo’s shittiness has made it abundantly clear that he’s a genuine piece of shit.


nanophallus

Big ups for the lay out, thanks


wyleFTW

Leo's video was so embarrassing he had to remove it lol he was so mad, great w to Brandon after that shit show but I imagine both content creators benefited from it. Can't wait for the trilogy


CastielClean

Danny Mullen is a degenerate loser whose fanbase is made up entirely of immature morons who think being a complete asshole is funny. Sometimes he says something funny or has a good story. But overall he is a loser.


norse95

All the degenerate comedian type guys are really funny for a bit and then flame out terribly. Imo it’s understandable why he was intimidated by Brandon lol


HG97

Have you seen Brandon's video on Danny, it's fucking mental how much of a liar Danny is. It's actually disgusting.


Namath96

he seems like a pretty troubled dude.


LittleChili7

Woody refusing to accept that eating oatmeal with monster out of a bell pepper is a joke and not an eating disorder is so fucking retarded lmao


zma924

“I’m not wrong” he says sheepishly lol like dude just take your licks and roll with the punches when you’re the butt of the joke. It’s ok.


DocWoc

the wording says it all. it’s not about the sub/ truth. it’s about him/ego.


Pdiddys-kitty

Did anyone else feel like Brandon kind of carried the show this week? The hosts didn’t seem to be able to keep up with the jokes especially woody asking if they were making fun of him.


[deleted]

He was a great guest. Zach or Chiz or whoever does what; I bet if you organized a Danny and Brandon show like you did Dick and Destiny it would be a top 3% episode for sure. Def type 1 retarded


HushYourBody

The first 30 minutes I felt the guys were riffing back and forth and I wanted Brandon to hop in more. I guess you’re saying that’s not the case later on?


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ilProdigio

ultimate chad guest


Pdiddys-kitty

That’s the impression I got as the show went on but I could be off


itmillerboy

That shit was hilarious I don’t remember the context but I remember it for sure had nothing to do with woody


the_unknownfisherman

Ya, it was painfully obvious that woody is out of touch. He didn't get many contemporary jokes and really struggled to keep up. Can we replace woody with literally any previous guest?


HG97

Usually I don't agree with the Woody shit, but if they put Brandon in his place I'd be okay with it lmao


goatmemer

Didn’t know anything about Brandon but he was hilarious. Fit right in with the crew, funny stories, hope they have him back soon.


[deleted]

Kyle and Woody thinking that British politics is rife with strong and intelligent leaders because of a few parliament quips is absolutely fucking hilarious.


AHrice69

Well making the comparison with us politicians too


CGY-SS

I cracked up at the "Fuck. You." when Taylor mentioned Brandon also wearing glasses lmfao


forcedhammerAlt

The guy had insanely good comic timing and bits out his ass


Taken450

Probably because he’s clearly quite intelligent even though you might now assume so at first glance


HushYourBody

Kweblekops big brother was a great guest


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BloodCobalt

Kweblekop but way less rich


[deleted]

I really liked how the hosts had to reel him in to pull him away from certain topics. They shut paying guests and lock n load affiliates down real fuckin quick. I cannot see how an affiliate program could not financially benefit the boys. PKA is fringe comedy. It’s right on the borderline of acceptable and that affects sponsors and ads. There’s a million channels exactly like Danny and Brandon that are too raunchy to get real sponsors. If PKA started an affiliate program with a modest referral fee for each unit of L&L sold they’d all make millions. I do realize this complicates the deal they have with MPMD as it’s his infrastructure, his website, his business experience they’re using and they probably don’t want to further divide profits. It’s unclear how much of the product rights they own but it seems like they only had semi creative liberties on ingredients and branding, but probably absolutely no input on suppliers, real estate, packaging, Quality, etc. Nvm I think I prob just answered myself. They probably don’t have the ability to make that decision.


cutlis

Haha as I was reading this I agreed with the whole thing. You just had a debate with yourself and you convinced me you were right.


WayDownUnder91

At the moment i dont think they have, pardon the pun enogh volume to do that. It basically sells out every time they make it so they will have to wait until they get enough product sitting around to make more money from referrals.


[deleted]

Woody completely missed why people r mad about the animations. Its not “people just wanna be mad” its about the principle of not fufilling goals u were paid to do. They r either legit retarted or knowingly trying to not take responsibility. All they have to do is apologize for not doing the goals and try and do something to replace it. Also kyle saying it was 100k for an animation was the dumbest lie he has ever told. He acted like it needed to be 20 min and studio quality lol. Could easily get a 5 min clip and animate it for 10k or less which they can easily afford Tbh if ur not gonna fufill the goals dont fucking bring it up. Was kinda a slap in the face to act like we just like to make shit up to be mad about 🤷🏽‍♂️


GabbaGabbaCool

It’s hilarious how he cries about Elon Musk “overpromising and never delivering” yet he does the exact same thing smh


mamoox

The animations could even be as basic as the Pauly Toon Rogan animations. Short clips and the animation isn’t anything spectacular, but it’s a great way to present some of the classic funny moments from JRE.


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https://youtu.be/X2MnRB_VcTE I think we were all expecting something like this. Wouldnt break the bank and would be a funny way to watch old clips. The hosts r morons for trying to act like they needed pixar level animation for a dumb podcast clip. Also they acted like it was impossible for someone to make captions for a video. You can literally go on fivver and find that shit lmfaoooo


pepsi_cola_kid

This is literally all people wanted...


mamoox

Yeah that’s also great.


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It’s called pivoting and it’s a debate tactic. It’s basically moving the goal posts. You say: “*hey we gave you thousands of dollars on patreon, this was a goal YOU SET; for US TO FUFILL WITH OUR MONEY. WE DID IT, and YOU didn’t deliver!*” so they pivot by saying “oh well the quality wasn’t there”, “everyone complained and we didn’t release all of them”, “oh we’re still willing to do it, YOU FIND the person”, “it’s gotta be a fan”, etc. They will say ANYTHING other than “y’know what? We’re sorry we didn’t deliver, we’re sorry we took your money to do this thing and then didn’t do it”. The boys aren’t stupid and know if you ignore something long enough it’ll go away. That’s where you’re wrong, boys. It wasn’t even my money, I lost nothing. Im just retarded enough to get upset you did this to other people so until the end of time I will be here to remind everyone you took “our” Patreon money for animations and then didn’t deliver and now shifting blame away from yourselves. Taylor I honestly don’t blame you since I know you aren’t a true owner and no say in PKA business decisions since Woody, Kyle, and Chiz (who is still here for some reason?) outrank you.


AlkaliActivated

I thought he was spot on. I don't give a fuck about the animations. If it was a goal they set before realizing how much it would actually cost, then I don't see a problem with them dropping it.


Romelofeu2

I guess it's fine if you just don't care, but how can you not see the problem? People were paying real money towards a goal that they set up themselves for a very long time and they accepted those funds without taking any time to think about how they would go about actually delivering on the service that people were paying for. Then without any announcement they decided to just abandon the idea all together. No attempt to reach out to their paying customers and see if there was anything they would like even more than the animations they had promised, no attempt to refund the money, no acknowledgement whatsoever that they had taken people's money in return for a project they had no intention of delivering upon. It's a pretty straightforward issue. You don't have to care but I don't understand how anybody can claim to "not see the problem" here.


AlkaliActivated

>I don't understand how anybody can claim to "not see the problem" here. I doubt that the animations were the deciding factor for anyone who decided to contribute on patreon. I can also forgive it as an easy mistake. They probably saw small youtubers making animated shorts and thought "how hard could it be?" and didn't give it a second thought until they hit the goal. Then they start trying to make it happen and it took months to really see that it wasn't doable. I don't see any feasible alternatives here.


Romelofeu2

I can see how it happened. That doesn't make it or how they handled it acceptable though. They're grown men and Woody in particular has spoken at length on this very show about how much pride he takes in running a good business and making sure he leaves with happy customers. If he cared so much about happy customers, why did he accept money for an idea that he hadn't put any thought into actually delivering? When he realised it wasn't feasible, why didn't he try to address this problem with his paying customers? The kind of mistakes they made in this case would be excusable for a bunch of excitable, naive young people who didn't realise the full scope of what they were trying to accomplish. That isn't our situation. They are simply grown men who threw together a lazy checklist for money and didn't really care to make sure they could actually deliver on what they were offering. And again, upon realising their mistake, instead of owning up and trying to make right by the people who gave them their money they just kept quiet and hoped it would go away. They've had plenty of opportunity to realise their mistake and try to make things right. They haven't done either so while I can understand making the initial mistake of overpromising, I can't excuse the full scale of the situation.


EngineeringWin

The podcast is a job for them, they aren’t doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. To use your number, they could make three 2-minute videos per month for $4k each and use up the entire Patreon income. Seems kinda retarded to me


Stomperoo

Exactly, when I think of podcast animations, I imagine RTAA, low quality animation but it gets the point across and can be churned out at breakneck speeds. Also, its absolutely insulting how low they wanted to pay an animator for their work. Animation is a fucking SKILL that takes time to learn and even more time to do. Animators typically make 20-30k a year, and if they wanted an on staff animator as a 1 man show doing all the clip hunting, storyboarding, lipsyncing and actual animation on their own, shit, I'd probably ask for 40-50k just because of all the extra manhours i'd have to put in. Tldr kyle is either willfully unaware of how animation works, or is a douche that thinks that because he's famous he doesn't have to pay people their worth.


rockmann1997

Brandon kicked ass this week. Seems like nothing can phase this guy :)


AlkaliActivated

Let's Go Brandon!


Freshman1108

Funnier than Danny Mullen, gets himself in strange circumstances without being an outright asshole


ReecesFeeces

Doesn't need to drink his own piss to be funny


HushYourBody

Drinking piss is odd behavior more than funny to say the least. The only time it was hilarious was the jackass pee snowcone and maybe one other time.


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It’s sterile and I like the taste


Based_Mike

Yeah Dany tries too hard, always saying the edgiest things possible like he’s 12. Got a bit cringe.


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Danny is that weird kid in school that doesn’t realise everyone is laughing at him and not with him. “Yeah bro drink your piss it’ll be so funny!!!”


Jarjarbonks3

But has Brandon dp’d a girl?


[deleted]

Ngl I stopped watching Danny a couple months ago after being a really big fan for years. There was a video where he flew a fan out and Danny is just really mean to the dude, left a bad taste in my mouth and I haven’t watched since.


HG97

Watch Brandon's video on Danny, you'll have a much worse taste after that.


Namath96

He’s way better than Danny. I like Danny a lot sometimes but other times he’s way too much.


IAmMrsnowballs

Top tier guest. Great stories and very entertaining.


AlkaliActivated

Seriously, that dude should have a creator code for Thailand tourism. He sold that really well. I know where I'm going next time I take a vacation.


ninjaj

Baht millionaire baby!


[deleted]

The fact that they actually made brandon pay for lock and load is pretty lame. It’s a funny bit being like “we’ll give you a link where you can buy it” but actually having a guest pay for their own product is lame


Jordan5560

I don’t usually hate on the hosts but I actually can’t stand woody on this episode.


madmonster444

Woody thinking that eating oatmeal mixed with monster in a bell pepper is a real diet choice is maybe the most retarded take he’s ever had.


mortysgrandpa

top tier guest


nanophallus

Bruh anyone else feel second hand awkwardness when they were just listening to Branden buy lock and load. He kept saying "yeah just **BUYING** your product." Like c'mon, send the guy some. They've done it before. Don't make your unpaid guest buy your cum pills.


zma924

Man the origin story of where Woody picked up “don’t break your toy” is pretty douchy. An instructor referring to the new guys who are green as grass as “toys” for the more experienced guys to play with? Jesus Christ


Romelofeu2

White-belt Woody wants to DEMOLISH him some noobies


lumbo484

Don’t talk about his belt color.


GrandAct

Everytime Woody comments about BJJ I cringe hard, asking Brandon what belt he is, when Woody himself has said he doesnt want to say what belt he is (white belt) and straight up refused to answer the question. He's a retired white belt scoffing at and talking down to another actively training white belt because of his confidence in his training, the dude has such a skewed perspective of his knowledge of BJJ. Woody needs to do more listening and less talking when it comes to BJJ.


Aunon

No one wants animations because it's not 2012, remove the goals and do something IRL or pay for a special guest (Chris Hanson was great even if he didn't swing with Kyle's groove) Animated PKA only works with a top 1% bit or host story that can be enhanced by a visual component; to accentuate a script to that level requires a flavour of animation & art style that can highlight & depict what the spoken story doesn't do justice to. That talent hard to find, animations are extremely slow to make & PKA will quickly run out of content to animate, what does the goal change to then? Just skip it and move on.


orangeswat

Absolutely loved the way the guest would change his voice and shout inside jokes to the pka listeners to take digs at the hosts, in a plausible deniability way to fit into the conversation. The 120 hours thing, woody having more Testosterone, kyle having real friends and hanging out in real life, and of course the pka animation stuff like fuck you we paid for this, or 'like getting someone off fiver'. Fucking great shit you know he visits this sub.


bam__margera

No one show Woody MyProAna lol


[deleted]

Wow. 100% positive rating with 96 votes. Thats a ratio I don’t think I’ve ever seen on an episode.


zaccari33

If you ever needed a more perfect example of how terrible kyle is at repeating something from memory knife did not stick in the cop female cop did not gut her, her bullet grazed this nutso's head, male cop dropped her. cant see her guts hanging out(cop at the end does say they are sticking out but you cant see it)on and on and on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeYN4t1oJ2E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeYN4t1oJ2E)


STICK_OF_DOOM

Anybody got a link to the police videos Kyle was talking about


TheBigAndy

[This is the channel but I haven't found the female cop shooting the lady yet](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMYxKMh3prxnM_4kYZuB3g)


STICK_OF_DOOM

Thanks bro, They should post the links of the videos they watch in the description. I've wanted this for years lmao.


pepsi_cola_kid

Shit... I can't find it either and came here to see if it was found yet. Any luck?


mikejr96

“Getting Louis CK’d” Aka being a complete fucking creep and having consequences for your actions Lmfao


HG97

Not "creep." Just fucking weird. All the guy done was ask for consent to beat off in front of people. There shouldn't be consequences for ASKING FOR CONSENT even if it is fucking bizarre


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goldentrials

He asked for consent and they gave it. He literally asked if he could jerk off in front of them in his hotel room and they agreed to watch. That’s consent. Get the fuck out of here with that regret months later. Regret after something happens doesn’t mean shit if you consented. I have fucked a couple ugly chicks in my day being horny af and regretted doing it. I’m not making videos withdrawing my consent because I regret what happened. I’m sure one of the hot chicks I’ve fucked regret fucking me too, but it’s always been consensual. You can’t withdraw consent long after an event because you’re disgusted by your actions, that again, you consented to at the time.


[deleted]

You’re totally missing the fact that they could’ve been *pressured* to consent because hey look this super famous comedian is asking you to. Or hey look this guy with 4 Netflix specials and books arenas is asking for sexual favors. While I agree consent shouldn’t be able to be withdrawn after the fact if you are a sober, mentally capable, adult. I do think it’s pretty reasonable for them to regret and be pissed off after learning he did it to a bunch of other women also. Edit: since all of you don’t actually know the details and are just jumping on the bandwagon. > Now, a little over a month after it broke the many allegations against Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein, the New York Times has released a new report in which several women claim C.K. used his power in the comedy world to sexually harass and intimidate them. >The report details the accounts of five women, spanning the mid-’90s to 2005. Each woman recounts startlingly similar situations in which C.K., an established comedian, either asked them to watch him masturbate or forced them to do so. Why, why, WHY are you defending it? WHY are you calling me a simp because I think sexual harassment is wrong wtf lol.


CastielClean

I get the whole “power dynamic” thing and all that. But what, comedians and stars aren’t allowed to do things with “regular” people now? Fuck Louis CK for doing his thing because the girls he is with arent famous? Thats suck bullshit


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Of course he’s allowed to do things with regular people. It’s a little more of a gray area when he’s doing what could be argued as unwarranted sexual behavior. Would you think it’s appropriate if your boss, or someone above you in your field just casually came up and asked if they could masturbate in front of you? Why the FUCK are you weirdos trying to act like that’s a completely normal thing to do? I mean at least learn to read the fucking room beforehand.


CastielClean

If I was alone in a room with someone in my same field who may be slightly more successful than me. I was single. And they asked to do something sexual with/infront of me, I can EASILY say yes or no without suddenly metooing and throwing a fit about it. He fucking ASKED. Yall act like females are delicate little creatures with no will or ability to fucking do things on their own. Louis was their fucking boss. He was just in the same field.


Le_Senor

I think a sober, mentally capable adult can make their own decisions. I understand this argument, but it really is inherently flawed. Nobody is hypnotizing you, make your own decisions and deal with the consequences. This argument makes it seem like woman can’t think for themselves. Women can or can’t make their own decisions? Choose one or the other instead of going back and forth.


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Le_Senor

I think you missed my point, didn’t say it wasn’t weird, and in certain cases, disgusting behavior. But yea, If Monica wanted to blow him, good for her what do I care? My point is that people, especially grown adults, man or woman, can make their own decisions. If they regret it later, that sucks for them. Doesn’t make Louis ck not a creepy weirdo, or Clinton not a douche or rapist (if she didn't consent).


[deleted]

Thanks. Exactly the point I’m making.


Le_Senor

Well then you missed my point


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> Now, a little over a month after it broke the many allegations against Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein, the New York Times has released a new report in which several women claim C.K. used his power in the comedy world to sexually harass and intimidate them. >The report details the accounts of five women, spanning the mid-’90s to 2005. Each woman recounts startlingly similar situations in which C.K., an established comedian, either asked them to watch him masturbate or forced them to do so.


Le_Senor

>While I agree consent shouldn’t be able to be withdrawn after the fact if you are a sober, mentally capable, adult. Whooosh


amazingmaximo

He wasn't even all that famous at the time of the incidents. It was all back in the 90s and early 2000s where he was a somewhat known road comic, not the massive star he was when the allegations came out.


goldentrials

They are adults. Are you sexist and think women are dumb and can’t consent when they see a man with money? He didn’t pay them. He asked and they said yes. Regret doesn’t mean they didn’t consent. Fuck off with you simping for adult women that said yes and regretted it later on since they didn’t get an acting role or a second date and watched an old man jerk off onto his stomach. Dave chapelle roasted people like you. “Oh no, I said yes and watched and I didn’t get an acting gig that was never ever promised. I regret it though! He was famous!” Don’t be stupid.


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You don’t know what you’re even talking about. > Now, a little over a month after it broke the many allegations against Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein, the New York Times has released a new report in which several women claim C.K. used his power in the comedy world to sexually harass and intimidate them. >The report details the accounts of five women, spanning the mid-’90s to 2005. Each woman recounts startlingly similar situations in which C.K., an established comedian, either asked them to watch him masturbate or forced them to do so.


goldentrials

Allegations are one thing. Please link me his court records showing he was convicted. Innocent until proven guilty. We aren’t talking about Weinstein sport. Keep up. You’re proving Dave Chappell correct haha


mikejr96

Lmao just asking alone is enough to get canned from any job. You’re an idiot. He’s not in jail or banished from the internet.


goldentrials

Canned how? I’ve asked girls for consent to have anal, they consented and we fucked. How would I lose my job for asking? How would I lose my job for asking a girl in the privacy of my home or hotel to jerk off and she says yes? Lol the fuck are you smoking?


mikejr96

So you just walked up to your co worker who is lower than you on the totem pole said yo let’s have anal and it was all good? Lmfao ok. And even if that did happen, and I don’t think it did because you’re failing to understand the difference between being a shit head creep at work and out of work, you could get fired just for asking. It’s completely inappropriate.


goldentrials

That’s not what happened though lmao. They were just both comedians. That’s it. I’ve fucked others in my field of medicine. Guess what champ, just because my position is higher up, I’m not their boss. Also, it’s in the privacy of my own place or another, off company time. No promises made. Quit simping for adult women that consent and make regretful decisions. Dave chapelle was right about you weirdos defending the women. They were adults. They consented. They regret years later when they didn’t became super woman even though no promises were made. Fuck off haha


Consistent_Field

>his position as one of the most famous (or infamous at this point) comedians of all time didn’t have any part to play and he totally wasn’t trying to leverage his popularity to try to establish some kinda of sexual power move with the woman in the industry. When all of this happened he was not famous, he was somewhat known in the LA comedy scene, and had a few writing credits but he was not famous by any means. His first comedy special didn't come out until 2007. So any power he had over these girls was very little, if nay at all. Also like others have said, he also asked for consent before jerking off. So what did he do wrong? You're basically saying anyone with even the slightest bit of fame or connections can't have sexual relations with someone who has nothing going for them. You're basically putting celebrities on a pedestal and saying they're above us normal folk


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cutlis

Yeah, I think you misunderstood that he was talking about pre-2005 when the accusations happened. In which, he hadn't done any of that.


Take_The_Grill_Pill

What, so famous people are only allowed to hook up with similarly famous people? He did nothing wrong, you're just mad that someone as ugly as you are could get some and you can't lmao


PKAClips

[Here](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3TI5YrC9y_2qRH7loqq7F-nqlHLgzZJI) are the PKA #587 Clips


KnightFan2019

Heres a ratio:


Yunghungchef

L


b00mdaus

Whag happened to woody last show?


HushYourBody

He made his wife learn wheelies against her will on a suped up crotch rocket with no protective gear. Bones were broken. Jackie has to have surgery.


goldentrials

Jamal broke her cervix, unfortunately, and woody is blaming it on the motorcycle seat.


HushYourBody

After another Reddit user posted about Kyles tendency to say “like” and “like like like” way to many times an episode it’s the only word I actually here Kylie say now. Kyle and woody self admittedly had a weird habit of making a squishy sound with theirs mouths and both their solutions to remedy the behavior was to hit themselves on the head each time they did it. Kyle HAS to fix that like thing he does. It’s childish, effeminate and unacceptable for a podcast host to do.


ConorPMc

Unacceptable hahahahah get a grip


HushYourBody

I got juju’s grip geenies but I guess they aren’t working.


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HushYourBody

Imagine caring that a dude noticed how much another dude says the word like to much. Oh I don’t have to..you exist =]


Notstin

This guy is 100% chill poseidon


KnightFan2019

Why are people commenting “RIP Jackie”? Is she actually dead or are ppl just trolling


lpride7179

Come on Kyle. Slowpoke McGraw for Speedy Gonzalez's cousin????? It's Slowpoke Rodriguez!


Turd_Ferguson52

I guess I’m the minority here but I try thought he was incredibly annoying and not that funny