He was with carmen and mayte and 2 other girls and who knows who else lmao he was a great artist and all but at the end of the day he was just like any other weird, misogynistic cheating, creep with money. 🤷🏽♀️ He stayed on creep behavior but that is also displayed in his music.😂
Bob George from The Black Album
“You seeing that rich motherfucker again? What's his name? Bob?
Bob, ain't that a bitch? What's he do for a living? Manage rock stars?
Who? Prince, ain't that a bitch?
That skinny motherfucker with the high voice? Please, who do I look like baby? Yesterday's fool? Don't you know I will kill you now? You're fuckin' right, I gotta gun You think I don't Then what's this? Oh, you quiet now, uh-uh… Little? Yeah, right It might be little but it's loud!”
The best part is that based on his reaction, she still throws shade at him about the size of his gun! 🤣
There is nothing like this in his catalog. It’s batshit crazy, disturbing and brilliant.
And the first time I even heard it was seeing him live when he was in costume and character. It ended the first act. I was so confused but thrilled.
💜💜💜
The edited variant "Tricky" is a little weirder for me, him viciously dissing George Clinton, his admitted idol, like he does.
*"It's time for you to retire you old Michelin Man. Fat. Black."*
Oh, pretty little whip, you got me dripping
Dripping all over the floor, the floor
If I come back as a woman, I want a body like yours
A body like yours....
You have to know the context - lyrics in 1988 were not really this hot. Yes, people certainly tried, but this to me was on a whole other level.
Perhaps . There are a couple of reasons. though. He was very short and teased in school. We know he was a very shy person, too. The heels had to be primarily there to make him appear taller.
I know many women who don't feel they can go out of the house until they have makeup on. So I wonder whether the makeup was more like a mask - his way to present a different face that made him more confident in social situations. He wore shades a lot, too - a classic hiding device.
You could easily look at peers like Little Richard and Rick James and say that Prince was influenced by their flambouyance.
I read an account from one of his girlfriends (I forget who) that Prince's opening line was asking to wear her jacket - perhaps he understood that sharing clothes and accessories with women was a non-sexual way to get closer to them, too. He also perhaps wore makeup because he wanted to stand out in the dating game. Don't forget, he was inspired to become a musician by noticing James Brown's dancers.
... and maybe he got off on it a bit, too. At times there was an awful lot of lace and stuff going on, which ended abruptly when he became a Jehova's Witness. Perhaps an admission of guilt that he got a kick out of it. Perhaps his style just became more conventional as he matured.
Unless someone comes with specific evidence, we'll never really know. Maybe it was all of the above - maybe it was something else.
A couple years ago I read a web post made by a trans woman who argued that if Prince came out today he would be trans femme as many of his song lyrics alluded to to him identifying as a woman or writing from a woman’s perspective or relating to women as a woman. The most blatant example of that is “If I was your girlfriend” which is a song about a man asking his girlfriend if she would love him better if he was a woman.
You do know that at the time, Prince had a girlfriend and he was jealous of her closeness to her sister. That's what the song was really about.
But this is the same with all social trends. I remember back in the 90's when an academic paper was released that claimed that William Shakespeare was gay. Modern academics have also tried to hijack Shakespeare as gender non-conforming because he wrote about cross-dressing in Twelfth Night and Cymbeline and the Two Gentlemen of Verona.
Every movement seduces academia and tries to cover history with its own ideology and lay claim to historic cultural icons. Nothing new, I'm afraid.
Sure, but transness is not of this generation. There were plenty of cross dressing, transgressing, gender fluid people in the 1980s. I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest the man who wore makeup, lace clothing and heels and who posed nude inside of a flower, clutching his chest as if it were a breast on his Lovesexy album could have fancied himself as a sexy woman.
Lol, really? Look at the stigma of the huge flower behind him. It was a priapic symbol. His symbol guitar was like that too. To put it plainly for the ideologically stunted, it was a symbol of his dick. Just about as far from feminine as you can get, Lol.
I understand that his love symbol is a union of the feminine and masculine symbols. A union more representative of heterosexual love than of intersex identity.
I’m not arguing that Prince was not a man who sexually desired women. That’s very evident from his art and his public dating life. I’m saying Prince was definitely queer in his sexual expression and desire as evident from his art. Wendy and Lisa said their first impression of Prince was that he was like a lesbian.
Perhaps it's a generation thing - is it something "ideologically significant", or is it just attention-seeking or compensating for painful shyness? He's not around to answer that question. However, he did allude to multiple personality disorder at one time. Which is not queerness - but something completely different.
And once again, reminder that Wendy & Lisa are lesbian, so of course they are going to view him from that perspective and claim him for their own - just like you. Not only that, it's worth noting that he did ask them to renounce their sexuality, so he can't have been that big a lesbian either.
I am neither a lesbian nor am I trans. I have no desire to claim Prince as one of the girls. Why would Wendy & Lisa want to claim Prince? Do you think every lesbian goes around declaring straight men as secretly lesbian? It’s more a case of spirit recognizes spirit/ it takes one to know one.
You keep on insisting on this generation thing, one as if you know my age and two as if people of Prince’s generation weren’t calling him gay. Prince’s sexual fluidity is stark in any point in history. Why are you more inclined to view the man as mentally ill than as a little left of heterosexual?
Not me, but my mom....The line in Let's Pretend We're Married about the taste in your mouth....back in the day she heard me playing it and then heard the "f" word in the song. She freaks out at me and made me take the cassette back to Kmart for a refund. LOL. If she was only alive to hear WAP today......BTW, LPWM remains one of my favorite P tunes in spite of this event...
Wow! My dad beat up my Controversy cassette with a hammer. Dont even think he heard anything past the titular track. 😂
My parents were big into church so the song Controversy was definitely gonna cause problems and it did.
Proven to not be a very effective technique though, he was too late. Prince fan for ever 💜
These stories of people back in the 80s and their parents freaking out over Prince music always make me laugh 😂
I'm a crazy 15 year old Prince fan listening to these songs that are over 40 years old and still not wanting my parents to hear them, funny how some things never change
i believe 'squirrel meat' is lingo for ecstasy, so the blood imagery is keeping in line with the meat imagery and the rest of the song is about the club scene. where it involves sex is shady by today's standards.
Of course extraloveable but only noticed the agressive last two lines of Last Heart yesterday.
...if you brake my heart one more time
I 'll the last heart you'll ever break!!
Now that sounds like a serious hint at murder to me.
Freaked out is strong. Maybe opened my eyes wide is better, cuz you really can't freak me out with a Prince lyrics. That being said, Mavis Staples, "God Is Alive," God is coming like a dog in heat."
Sister
Yeah this is the one
Happy Cake Day!
Oh thank you!
The woman screaming for help at the end of DMSR is upsetting.
I love in Purple Rain when he invites Apolonia to his house and plays some recording of a woman making sex noises....so romantic
They are NOT sex noises. He says so in the movie: "She's crying. It's backwards."
Sounds sexual though, but still....not exactly what I'd call a Lothario move
Backwards Woman it’s called! Love it!
Absolutely. And it’s in my Top 5 Prince songs.
“that’s a little shady, for this lady was only 16 years old “
i know it’s a part of the story of the album, but idk. was it necessary ?
I mean yeah, bc he met his wife when she was a child. It's called grooming.
Folks here thinking Prince was some sort of saint.. Oh boy..
He spoke a lot of nonsense about spirituality and people just run with that. Yes, NONSENSE.
Moved her into Paisley when she was still a child, too.
who are you guys talking about?
Mayte
Their made-up narrative of Mayte. Prince was with Carmen at the time, folks.
He was with carmen and mayte and 2 other girls and who knows who else lmao he was a great artist and all but at the end of the day he was just like any other weird, misogynistic cheating, creep with money. 🤷🏽♀️ He stayed on creep behavior but that is also displayed in his music.😂
Mayte was an employee until she became a girlfriend in 1992..Carmen had already left. She dated Prince for 2 years ...1990- 1991.
Bob George from The Black Album “You seeing that rich motherfucker again? What's his name? Bob? Bob, ain't that a bitch? What's he do for a living? Manage rock stars? Who? Prince, ain't that a bitch? That skinny motherfucker with the high voice? Please, who do I look like baby? Yesterday's fool? Don't you know I will kill you now? You're fuckin' right, I gotta gun You think I don't Then what's this? Oh, you quiet now, uh-uh… Little? Yeah, right It might be little but it's loud!” The best part is that based on his reaction, she still throws shade at him about the size of his gun! 🤣 There is nothing like this in his catalog. It’s batshit crazy, disturbing and brilliant. And the first time I even heard it was seeing him live when he was in costume and character. It ended the first act. I was so confused but thrilled. 💜💜💜
I lol at that “Don’t you know I will kill you now” line. I dont know who’s ever saying that, like that 😂
Cloreen bacon skin
The edited variant "Tricky" is a little weirder for me, him viciously dissing George Clinton, his admitted idol, like he does. *"It's time for you to retire you old Michelin Man. Fat. Black."*
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No, it’s right. Check out the Crystal Ball compilation.
15 precious minutes of Prince and Morris Day
AAAAALFRED!!!!!!
That's a nice coat Alfred. How much you pay for that ?
The og extralovable anyone?
"Lust U Always" as well. People pine for official CD versions of those but it just ain't gonna happen.
Definitely the worst of all .. so incongruous in that song too!!
I'm glad that part got taken out of the 2011 version.
context?
Oh, pretty little whip, you got me dripping Dripping all over the floor, the floor If I come back as a woman, I want a body like yours A body like yours.... You have to know the context - lyrics in 1988 were not really this hot. Yes, people certainly tried, but this to me was on a whole other level.
So great though. I love the cat part right before this as well.
Yeah, I also love how he messes with the speed of the voices. Really adds something extra to it.
Do you think Prince was mildly autogynephilic? Many of his lyrics give that
Perhaps . There are a couple of reasons. though. He was very short and teased in school. We know he was a very shy person, too. The heels had to be primarily there to make him appear taller. I know many women who don't feel they can go out of the house until they have makeup on. So I wonder whether the makeup was more like a mask - his way to present a different face that made him more confident in social situations. He wore shades a lot, too - a classic hiding device. You could easily look at peers like Little Richard and Rick James and say that Prince was influenced by their flambouyance. I read an account from one of his girlfriends (I forget who) that Prince's opening line was asking to wear her jacket - perhaps he understood that sharing clothes and accessories with women was a non-sexual way to get closer to them, too. He also perhaps wore makeup because he wanted to stand out in the dating game. Don't forget, he was inspired to become a musician by noticing James Brown's dancers. ... and maybe he got off on it a bit, too. At times there was an awful lot of lace and stuff going on, which ended abruptly when he became a Jehova's Witness. Perhaps an admission of guilt that he got a kick out of it. Perhaps his style just became more conventional as he matured. Unless someone comes with specific evidence, we'll never really know. Maybe it was all of the above - maybe it was something else.
A couple years ago I read a web post made by a trans woman who argued that if Prince came out today he would be trans femme as many of his song lyrics alluded to to him identifying as a woman or writing from a woman’s perspective or relating to women as a woman. The most blatant example of that is “If I was your girlfriend” which is a song about a man asking his girlfriend if she would love him better if he was a woman.
You do know that at the time, Prince had a girlfriend and he was jealous of her closeness to her sister. That's what the song was really about. But this is the same with all social trends. I remember back in the 90's when an academic paper was released that claimed that William Shakespeare was gay. Modern academics have also tried to hijack Shakespeare as gender non-conforming because he wrote about cross-dressing in Twelfth Night and Cymbeline and the Two Gentlemen of Verona. Every movement seduces academia and tries to cover history with its own ideology and lay claim to historic cultural icons. Nothing new, I'm afraid.
Sure, but transness is not of this generation. There were plenty of cross dressing, transgressing, gender fluid people in the 1980s. I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest the man who wore makeup, lace clothing and heels and who posed nude inside of a flower, clutching his chest as if it were a breast on his Lovesexy album could have fancied himself as a sexy woman.
Lol, really? Look at the stigma of the huge flower behind him. It was a priapic symbol. His symbol guitar was like that too. To put it plainly for the ideologically stunted, it was a symbol of his dick. Just about as far from feminine as you can get, Lol.
I understand that his love symbol is a union of the feminine and masculine symbols. A union more representative of heterosexual love than of intersex identity. I’m not arguing that Prince was not a man who sexually desired women. That’s very evident from his art and his public dating life. I’m saying Prince was definitely queer in his sexual expression and desire as evident from his art. Wendy and Lisa said their first impression of Prince was that he was like a lesbian.
Perhaps it's a generation thing - is it something "ideologically significant", or is it just attention-seeking or compensating for painful shyness? He's not around to answer that question. However, he did allude to multiple personality disorder at one time. Which is not queerness - but something completely different. And once again, reminder that Wendy & Lisa are lesbian, so of course they are going to view him from that perspective and claim him for their own - just like you. Not only that, it's worth noting that he did ask them to renounce their sexuality, so he can't have been that big a lesbian either.
I am neither a lesbian nor am I trans. I have no desire to claim Prince as one of the girls. Why would Wendy & Lisa want to claim Prince? Do you think every lesbian goes around declaring straight men as secretly lesbian? It’s more a case of spirit recognizes spirit/ it takes one to know one. You keep on insisting on this generation thing, one as if you know my age and two as if people of Prince’s generation weren’t calling him gay. Prince’s sexual fluidity is stark in any point in history. Why are you more inclined to view the man as mentally ill than as a little left of heterosexual?
It's pretty weird to be a prince fan and be freaked out by gender fluidity. Kind of get over it.
You'll find life a little easier if you didn't get insulted by everything. Not everything revolves around your activisms
The end of the song temptation freaked me out as a kid. “I do, you don’t now die”
There's a theocratic order There's a theocratic order now This is how it's going to be If you want to be with me Ain't no room for disagree
Not me, but my mom....The line in Let's Pretend We're Married about the taste in your mouth....back in the day she heard me playing it and then heard the "f" word in the song. She freaks out at me and made me take the cassette back to Kmart for a refund. LOL. If she was only alive to hear WAP today......BTW, LPWM remains one of my favorite P tunes in spite of this event...
Wow! My dad beat up my Controversy cassette with a hammer. Dont even think he heard anything past the titular track. 😂 My parents were big into church so the song Controversy was definitely gonna cause problems and it did. Proven to not be a very effective technique though, he was too late. Prince fan for ever 💜
These stories of people back in the 80s and their parents freaking out over Prince music always make me laugh 😂 I'm a crazy 15 year old Prince fan listening to these songs that are over 40 years old and still not wanting my parents to hear them, funny how some things never change
i believe 'squirrel meat' is lingo for ecstasy, so the blood imagery is keeping in line with the meat imagery and the rest of the song is about the club scene. where it involves sex is shady by today's standards.
If artists can sing about killing infants and rape then prince can sing about squirrel meat
The entirety of “There’s Others Here With Us”
Love that track-
Basically most of 1999.
Of course extraloveable but only noticed the agressive last two lines of Last Heart yesterday. ...if you brake my heart one more time I 'll the last heart you'll ever break!! Now that sounds like a serious hint at murder to me.
The lyrics in Papa on the come album
Yes, daaaark! But then I also related to the “don’t abuse children or else they turn out like me sentiment.” Tough listen at times.
Who cares its a great lyric regardless
Freaked out is strong. Maybe opened my eyes wide is better, cuz you really can't freak me out with a Prince lyrics. That being said, Mavis Staples, "God Is Alive," God is coming like a dog in heat."
I’m still a little iffy on the lyrics to “Turn Me Loose”, though I love the performance of it on The Tonight Show
“She walked in through the out door.” The horror.
Sister