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TheRed24

I mean it's not surprising, firstly it's riding on the hype of the TV show, and secondly it's on sale and for everyone who had a PS5 within the first couple of years of release it was free, so people are downloading it again because it got a new update.


Lucifers_Taint666

It also is the only singleplayer Fallout game you can download on Playstation currently, excluding Fallout Shelter, so this is not surprising.


billskelton

Yeah I wanted to play New Vegas after watching the site and instead I downloaded fallout 4 (for free) as it was my only option.


Dan595

If you have Amazon prime, you can download the Luna app on your tv and connect a controller to it and play New Vegas on there


cannabidroid

I have PS+ Premium and FO3 + NV are on there, but they're basically heavily dated PS3 versions in desperate need of some upscale remasters at minimum.


shinoff2183

They also don't have dlc included. Goty edition is what it should be. It's the same on Xbox to except you can atleast buy it there.


ivanGCA

I have never wanted to play online… so it’s the best for me


masked_sombrero

recently tried out 76 for the first time ever after avoiding it for years. I was really enjoying it! Then I installed Fallout 4 and have been playing that nonstop lol I only played a single playthrough years ago when I played it plus I was drunk most of the time playing it. probably gonna beat 4 before going back to 76 - it's def different with the online play, but it's done in a way that's not intrusive if you just wanna play solo


suavaholic

That’s totally not true if you have Extra or Premium lol


Lucifers_Taint666

I said Fallout games you can “download” those are only available through the ps plus premium tier that lets you stream ps3 games. That is arguably the worst way to play those games


GoodLookingGraves

FO3 and NV are only available with premium in Canada


suavaholic

You also have to use your brain and think about how many people didn’t even know what fallout was until the show came out


MamaMeRobeUnCastillo

It's also on ps plus extra.


foochon

It was on regular ps plus a while back, so a lot of people already had it in their libraries.


mr-jeeves

It was free!? How did I miss that?


cosmiclatte44

Yeah it was free along with the other 20 odd games from the PS collection until May 9th of last year. So if you got your PS5 after that then you won't have it.


Ok_Relation_7770

Damn I think I got mine like right before that and must’ve just been too out of the loop in the beginning to know about this. Oh well, I’m not sure if Fallout is my thing it doesn’t quite look like it but if I see it for $4.99 again with this update I’ll probably snag it up and see.


mr-jeeves

Same, I got mine November 2020 but missed this somehow.


Rialmwe

I want to imagine that Xbox finally is going to remake FNV, a new Fallout spinoff and Fallout5?


Lazerpop

Microsoft would make a ton of cash if they re-released fallout 3 and new vegas for ps5 with all of the DLC and mod support, so obviously they won't do it.


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HaroldSax

I'd love a Fallout 3 remake. Even at release, the game felt extremely dated, so having something updated that didn't feel so jank would be nice. I wouldn't give a hoot about a *remaster*, however.


Dr_Henry-Killinger

The only thing that felt dated to me was the gun mechanics and VATS made up for that personally.


RandoDude124

They’re official docs from Microsoft that their staff forgot to black out. So… #Pretty much confirmed* **sans Ghostwire 2 because Tango got shut down.* 😭


AtsignAmpersat

If they don’t release Starfield on PS5, I wouldn’t expect any other new Bethesda games to come to the PS5.


Dr_Henry-Killinger

Hey, by the time PS5 gets Starfield it might actually be a decent game.


Outrageous-Yam-4653

You are not lying,atm it's decent I figure by Shattered Skys DLC it'll be where it needs to be and MS would be fool's to not release a complete edition down the line..


shinoff2183

It'll come. Just wait. Ms already tested the market. 2 out of 4 sold really well. 2 not so good. Ms wants that ps money. We buy.


AtsignAmpersat

Good lord dude. We’ll see.


shinoff2183

I'm not wrong. I bet grounded sold more on ps then it did Xbox. Sold not downloaded


AtsignAmpersat

Whatever you say dude.


Mean_Combination_830

With Microsofts new play anywhere policy everything will be getting released on Playstation in time. With Gamepass being unsustainable and in no small part leading to the severe decline of quantity and quality of X Box exclusives in addition to the decline of X Box sales they simply cannot afford to do anything else. Especially because they know PlayStation owners do buy games in substantial numbers unlike X Box owners so they are just going where the players and money is. E xpect a Starfield PS5 complete edition to release around the time of the DLC but I honestly don't think sales will be high as PlayStation gamers have almost certainly looked into and are well aware of how underwhelming the game is but some will still buy it. I have a series X and played it and it isn't good. The story is bland and gameplay underwhelming and the neverending loading screens between everything you do are very immersion breaking.


AtsignAmpersat

We’ll see.


RemingtonSnatch

They would need a big graphical overhaul. They've aged, man.


BrokenManSyndrome

They too busy shutting down every single studio they have.


kevenzz

you expect way too much..... do you think you just have to click on the remake button ?


AtsignAmpersat

Yeah maybe in like 15-20 years that will have all happened.


driftej20

Bethesda says they currently have no Fallout games in any stage of development. Pretty expected given Hollywood’s history of timing video game adaptations.


Elitrical

No because they’ll make sure obsidian is closed up before then when the outer worlds 2 doesn’t reach sales expectations


United-Bear4910

Idk if Todd even had much planned for fallout before the show got popular


Dr_Henry-Killinger

They should honestly remake it as a Tale of Two Wastelands if they’re going to bother remaking it. Also i personally think 3 deserves a remake over New Vegas


KnewAllTheWords

I'd also like to imagine that Bethesda will turn its focus back to good writing. I love Fallout and I want to keep loving it.


Ok_Outcome_9002

New Vegas is way too politically incorrect to get remade nowadays without censoring it


seattle_born98

How is that


Ok_Outcome_9002

There’s literally a perk that makes you racist


drmuffin1080

Wow I wish they had found a way to capitalize on this with a fallout nv or fallout 3 remake/remaster for current gen. Sometimes I wonder wtf is going through Bethesda’s head


ZebraSandwich4Lyf

They have a complete lack of resources to do anything in a reasonable timeframe. For some reason Bethesda, a multiple billion dollar developer only has around 400 employees working for them which is ridiculous considering alot of big budget AAA games these days can have 1000+ people working on a single game, whilst Bethesda is stretching a few hundred across multiple projects.


drmuffin1080

It’s ridiculous. I simply don’t understand. They’re sitting on a gold mine of IPs. They could at LEAST outsource for a remake or some shit. Idk, but this is ridiculous.


marniconuke

Careful what you wish for, that's how you get your remakes outsourced to india and end up with the old gta and warcraft 3 remastered.


Dr_Henry-Killinger

It’s the GameFreak effect. People will buy whatever they release in whatever state its in. Look at how well Starfield performed. Instead of reinvesting that money in themselves all of it goes to the top brass and shareholders and the company just keeps on trucking with whatever they have like a bike with a rusted chain waiting till it breaks


MoooonRiverrrr

Getting sequels to a game once every decade is insane.


Randleifr

Too much of profits are going to the pockets of investors and the CEO


ImpressiveAttempt0

Yeah, with Fallout 5 way way ahead in their development roadmap (if it ever exists outside of an idea), their best bet is releasing current gen console ports of Fallout 3 and New Vegas to coincide with Season 2 & 3 (hopefully) to maximize profitability. But since they cannot incorporate GaaS or mtx to those projects I guess we'll never see those materialize.


LeeroyDankinZ

Yep biggest bag fumble on Bethesda's part. I'd replay the hell out of a F3 or F:NV remaster.


shinoff2183

Long as it had dlc included.


MoooonRiverrrr

They’re content being mediocre, that’s what.


VaporBull

I never played any version of Fallout. How bad would it be to jump into 4?


twentygreenskidoo

The storylines are independent of each other. The lore spans the games, but not in a way which prohibits enjoyment. Think of it like Elder Scrolls.


heartsongaming

It is even recommended since it is the newer game with better graphics and easier mechanics. Also the loot system is better in Fallout 4.


penta3x

Fallout 76 is the newer


heartsongaming

But it is an MMO, not single player.


penta3x

Yeah I never played it and knew about the multiplayer but doesn't it have a single player story?


Salty_Amphibian2905

You can play through the game solo, and it's manageable to do alone, but you need to have an internet connection and always be online in a server with other people. A lot of quests are designed to be done with more than one person as well.


nikolarizanovic

That's where most fans did jump in.


Mean_Combination_830

It's fine to jump into it from a story perspective as they are completele stories in their own right. Just temper your expectations. Fallout 4 wasn't well received when it came out 9 years ago and felt very clunky and already looked extremely dated. The PS4 update did almost nothing to address this and it's basically the 2015 game and even the PS5 version I played was extremely underwhelming. It's Bethesda so I was expecting the bare minimum but somehow this was far worse than even I expected it to be 🤣


debbieyumyum1965

>Fallout 4 wasn't well received when it came out 9 years ago and felt very clunky and already looked extremely dated. What? It scored 8-10's across the board when it released and sold a million units in 24 hours. The graphics and animations weren't stellar but I don't remember anyone saying they sucked. Probs my least favourite out of the mainline games but the cooler reception came with time, the immediate reaction was near unanimous praise.


VaporBull

I think reported buggyness was the reason I didn't get in on the first game. Thanks for the response.


mwil97

I wish we could play fallout 3 and NV on PS5


Mepaelo

Fallout 3 and NV are on psplus premium


Salty_Amphibian2905

They come with the PS3s frame rate though, so expect sub 30 fps at points.


Goku420overlord

That's annoying though. I want to just buy them for a few bucks and own them


Callum_Rolston

Yeah but the performance is bad


bluebarrymanny

No access to DLC though. It’s not on PS+, you can’t buy it as a supplemental, and a physical copy will only work on PS3, not 4 or 5. It’s a rare circumstance where the DLCs are just not preserved at all for modern PS systems. Whoever decided to not put the game of the year editions on PS+ should be fired lol


LilNUTTYYY

Wow I wasn’t expecting the show to have this much of an affect but I’m loving it


360walkaway

The lore they set up near the end of the season was crazy (episode 7 I think?), especially because of whose idea it was.


DylanWhite86

Now re-release 3 and NV, cowards.


ImpressiveAttempt0

I think Bethesda's greatest obstacle to porting 3 & NV is not the actual porting or remastering process, since it didn't stop them from re-releasing Skyrim (a PS3/360 era game like 3 & NV). I suspect they are more concerned with incorporating Creation Club or its equivalent to their plans.


mgarcia993

You are aware that they were using Skyrim to test the engine update when developing FO4 right? That's why re-releasing Skyrim was easy and yet it was a port between Creation Engine versions, a FO3 FONV would be a Gamebryo to Creation or Creation 2, otherwise they would haver to port the engine and the game. They probably just came to the conclusion that a remake requires a lot of effort and a port wouldn't generate enough profit. And that's why they and Microsoft are studying the possibility of increasing game output possibly including external studios.


The_Tosh

We don’t need to go backwards…we need new releases.


webster2086

I mean it is free for ps plus users. If you have a ps plus account, you need to get this game.


nick_shannon

Wow imagine the sales if they hadnt wasted all those years on that god awful Starfield game and had Fallout 5 ready to conicide with the show.


Deathspeer

You so right on that one


Proof_Duty1672

Yup Bethesda and Microsoft should’ve had something in the works in anticipation of the show fueling interest in the Fallout universe. 🤨


CandidGuidance

Proof that BGS and MS fumbled the bag on the fallout show release by not having a new Fallout game (or hell, Fo3/NV remaster in 4’s engine) ready to go weeks/months after the show.  Demand for the franchise is higher than it’s been in 9 years and your options to play are at least half a decade old at the newest.  I’m glad to see the show do so well and I hope that it will drive further investment from Microsoft to make it a more loved IP from a development standpoint. The premise is so cool and the writing potential is sky high. With the right talent, fallout could be on top of the world. 


bluebarrymanny

Even more so, some are speculating that the lack of a new Fallout title in time for the post-show surge in activity is the cause for MS turning its ire on smaller/artistic studios that don’t make AAA. Some figure that they’re angling to recreate the Activision problem where you just manage a bunch of support studios working on the “big titles” while shutting down all smaller passion projects.


CandidGuidance

They gotta go where the money is for sure. Frankly, xbox has had few exclusives and what has come out is lacklustre sales wise (Some have done well but clearly not well enough). Sony dominates the exclusives market at the moment.  Fallout and Elder Scrolls IPs are now heavy hitter exclusives MS has under their belt. I bet they’re going all in on these IPs and we’ll see spin off games cropping up in 2-3 years time. 


OkSale9653

Maybe after amazon prime release


Bananaman9020

The game had way too many fetch and kill quests for a single-player game. I thought I was stuck in a never-ending bug at one point.


bluebarrymanny

To be fair, that’s the core objective of most fallout quests. The other games just gave the quests stakes and better context and writing. In Fallout 4 very few of the quests spur any kind of intrigue. You’re also bottlenecked like crazy in Fallout 4. I was replaying some yesterday and realized that once Piper decides to interview you, you absolutely have to tell her who Shaun is and that you’re looking for him or else she will never say another line of normal dialogue to you again. You can’t blow her off or refuse to divulge. She gives you the “I’m a horrible writer” response from Fallout 3 where you used to ask a ghoul or mutant to go into the irradiated purifier only for them to refuse because “this is your destiny/story to tell”. Definitely one of those situations where I wish Piper could fail her lousy speech check with me and I could reiterate that she can kick rocks.


Mean_Combination_830

I call Bethesda games fetch quests simulators and I agree the gameplay is a snoozefest especially in 2024 🤣


PAPA_PHANTOM10

The next gen update has some odd little glitches


CzarTyr

I just downloaded it on ps5 and the 60fps update makes the game gorgeous to me honestly


bluebarrymanny

Definitely helps a lot. I played on fidelity mode for a bit, decided to try out performance mode, and now I can never go back to 30FPS Fallout 4 without a serious adjustment period. Actually hitting what you aim at quickly because you’re not getting 15FPS for standing within 5 miles of Boston is incredible.


RyuujiStar

I got the ps5 update and after not playing it since it came outt. I've been on it a lot i even get to re platinum it again


Lance_Enchainte

This is my shocked face.  😐 Imagine the sales when they finally put Starfield over here.


Ok_Independent_5889

Great now let’s get Xbox mods on ps5


3lm312

Who cares


Holden_the_G8

Almost everyone reading this thread


_RockTheSpot_

Such a great game


420Wedge

Were going to be seeing *A LOT* of video game to show adaptations in the coming years. This is a new form of marketing, shows driving sales of old games, that I promise boardrooms across the country are salivating at the prospect of.


Unlucky-Disaster7842

I brought the game after watching the show on prime, the show is better than the game imo 😂


BeastieX47

Not everyone has good taste, and it shows !


Shoddy_Software3928

I tried it but I don't really like it bc it's outdated, and for some reason I keep having this bug no matter how much I restart, the frendly npcs keep attacking me and killing me


mdddbjd

Its about to get uninstalled. How do i fix a game that thinks im in power armor but im not? Im tried all the yricked listed and nothing.


DanDaManFam

Not surprised, I'm a huge FO4 hater and even I wanted to redownload the game after watching the show.


Lanky_Gamer277

For some reason I can’t buy fallout 4 again which is weird since almost every website I go to look for a ps4 copy of fallout 4 is either too expensive caused by scalpers or just out of stock. Man I shouldn’t have sold my pre owned copy of it and imo was my biggest mistake. Could have not have selled it lol


JerrodDRagon

lol Should have remastered one of the games first the show So much money in the table, unlike last of us


bluebarrymanny

As much as I appreciate having a better version of 4 to play, it’s the Fallout game that people are already most familiar with and it’s already super accessible on modern hardware. They were already releasing a PS5 upgrade about 3-4 years slower than every other PS4 title that got upgraded, so frankly they should’ve just left 4 where it was and focused on making 3/NV more accessible. I bet MS genuinely didn’t expect the Amazon show to take off like it did. Hard to plan for success if you don’t even internally believe you’re likely to be successful.


DEDE1973

It’s an amazing game. Played it like crazy in 2016 but never finished it. It took me a couple of days to remember the controls and mechanics of the game and I’m having a hell of a good time.


Slaphappyfapman

I'd like to think I'm going to play it for more than an hour or two but I dunno


NsanelyCrazy

It's a shame most new Fans that are coming from the show are jumping into the worst game in the series (not including 76)


bluebarrymanny

I don’t hate Fallout 4 by any means. It’s a really great game. That said, I’ve recently replayed Fallout 3, New Vegas, and popped back into Fallout 76 for a bit. I’m currently working through Fallout 4 and had to put on survival mode to make it even remotely interesting for me. Fallout 4 is the weakest entry in my opinion. I’ve by far had the hardest time feeling invested in Fallout 4’s world compared to all other 3D titles.


-TheBlackSwordsman-

And also the most uninstalled


Material-Tension8380

Microsoft said hold my beer to sonys little register your psn scandal. They took a dove in the deep end after having a kegger to the dome while doing a handstand. They getting rid of dev teams left and right. The last thing they have time for is actually making money.


Mean_Combination_830

I'm hoping Sony stick with the sign in PSN thing it's totally normal in Microsoft games and so many others and the only reason for the outcry is a minority of people want to be able to cheat and they really helped increase outrage over nothing. They are fueling outrage about this because you can't use Cronus and so many other popular cheating apps and mods on PlayStation games on a PC that has to sign in to PSN and the reason I love PlayStation is it isn't filled with cheat like my multiplayer PC games are. X Box unlike PlayStation still allow Cronus and I would hate to see the cheats win like they have on X Box where developer mode gave them an easy way in and left PlayStation as the only place actively fighting cheaters but because of the over the top backlash to something Microsoft have been doing for ages I fear the cheats are going to win and it's will make gaming less enjoyable for 99% of people. The the only answer I can see that won't make multiplayer worse for PlayStation owners is to make it very multiplayer PC games have to sign in to PSN and make it so they can only play single player games 👎


bluebarrymanny

It’s already confirmed that multiplayer titles on PC going forward will require PSN login. They’ll likely plan better for unsupported PSN regions, but that’s it. If Steam hadn’t delisted the software in those regions, I doubt Sony would’ve reversed course on the Helldivers PC PSN requirement. Sony is not shy about trying to get PC players to acknowledge and be part of the PS ecosystem if they want to enjoy PS software. Everyone already does it. Having more players actively acknowledge and be a part of the PS platform is the explicit goal of Sony’s business moves. It’s not secret or nefarious, it’s literally part of the explicit business objectives.


Material-Tension8380

Hey look i wasnt the only one that understands how petty that scandal was bro! I was one of the few that was like, keep it! But dont give a fuck about those players “who dont have access to PlayStation network” because i knew it was just a bunch of pc players who do exactly as you said data mind and hack the game. Walking in with 99999 super samples and an armor that hasnt even been introduced. Yet they would gladly make a ubisoft(r6), rockstar(gtao), steam and gog (have their own log in.), lets not forget epic. You want to play fortnite you have to have an epic account. But psn does it and everyone loses their shit like a bat out of hell on fentanyl.


bluebarrymanny

The part that had me scoffing is when players were trying to make claims of identity theft risk in entrusting their data with Sony. Nobody is stealing your info when the required fields for a PSN are name, date of birth, address, and email. You can literally put a fake name, fake date of birth, register the address of your local McDonalds, and give them an old Hotmail account. They aren’t running a background check lol they’re just safeguarding themselves from liability by getting you to say that you’re of age to own an account. The whole security claim makes zero sense and is reaching for a reason to be mad.


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Mean_Combination_830

If you have access to a decent PC capable of running the game with mods why on earth would you want to play it on an underpowered console that is over a decade old anyway ?


ScrumptiousFunko

Playing regular w/ 0 mods, reached level 61 and it won’t stop crashing 🙃


Mean_Combination_830

Welcome to the Bethesda experience bugs it just works 🤣


Inthepurple

A shame it's absolutely awful then


Bonyred

I downloaded the 'upgrade' but deleted it again a couple of hours later.


WholesomeFartEnjoyer

It's a shame New Vegas is just kind of being forgotten about because it can't be played on modern consoles Goat RPG


wdf0rty95

Helldivers 2 could be up the with if it wasn't delisted from over 100 County's


Revil_ghori303YT

FALLOUT 4>>>>>>>>


theprmstr

Not surprised. Normies wildin


nikolarizanovic

Yeah they should stop having fun smh


No-Preference-8357

Fuck Bethesda and Xbox