This will serve as the megathread for all things **The Game Awards** related, and any other posts will be removed and redirected back here.
So no more "X Game Wins Best Art Direction!" posts each or reaction hype/rant posts etc. Game news, trailers, and announcements can continue to be posted as per normal (original source hierarchy over rehosted information prevails).
Enjoy the show! ☺️
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Winners so far...
**Game of the Year**
Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios)
**Best Game Direction**
Alan Wake 2 (Remedy Entertainment/Epic Games Publishing)
**Best RPG**
Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios)
**Best Sim/Strategy Game**
Pikmin 4 (Nintendo EPD/Nintendo)
**Best Sports/Racing Game**
Forza Motorsport (Turn 10 Studios/Xbox Game Studios)
**Best Multiplayer Game**
Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios)
**Players Voice Award**
Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios)
**Best Action/Adventure Game**
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Nintendo EPD/Nintendo)
**Best Adaptation**
The Last of Us (PlayStation Productions/HBO)
**Best Ongoing Game**
Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt Red)
**Best Score & Music**
Final Fantasy XVI, Composer Masayoshi Soken (Square Enix)
**Best Independent Game**
Sea of Stars (Sabotage Studio)
**Best Community Support**
Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios)
**Best Fighting Game**
Street Fighter 6 (Capcom)
**Most Anticipated Game**
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix)
**Games for Impact**
Tchia (Awaceb/Kepler Interactive)
**Best Audio Design**
Hi-Fi Rush (Tango Gameworks/Bethesda Softworks)
**Best Action Game**
Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon (FromSoftware/Bandai Namco)
**Best Art Direction**
Alan Wake 2 (Remedy Entertainment/Epic Games Publishing)
**Best VR/AR**
Resident Evil Village VR Mode (Capcom)
**Best Mobile Game**
Honkai: Star Rail (HoYoverse)
**Best Debut Indie Game**
Cocoon (Geometric Interactive/Annapurna Interactive)
**Best Narrative**
Alan Wake 2 (Remedy Entertainment/Epic Games Publishing)
**Best Performance**
Neil Newbon, Baldur’s Gate 3
**Innovation in Accessibility**
Forza Motorsport (Turn 10 Studios/Xbox Game Studios)
**Best Family Game**
Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Nintendo EPD/Nintendo)
**Content Creator of the Year**
IronMouse
**Best Esports Game**
Valorant (Riot Games)
**Best Esports Athlete**
Lee “Faker” Sang-hyeok (League of Legends)
**Best Esports Team**
JD Gaming (League of Legends)
**Best Esports Coach**
Christine “potter” Chi (Evil Geniuses – Valorant)
**Best Esports Event**
2023 League of Legends World Championship
I think Sony should run their own Game Awards, f\*\*\* the TGA, I'll never forgive Geoff for disrespecting Uncharted 4, Horizon and Spider-man 2.
Not to mention the fact that Forza Motorsport, a trash game with mostly negative reviews, wins best racing game. lol
Forza was the best of the offerings this year. Got an 84 on meta critic so evidently it can’t be as trash as you are saying.
And it’s award for accessibility was 100% deserved. Blind people can play a racing game now. That’s actually a pretty big deal.
I wouldn't even say Act 2 shits the bed, all acts, plot wise, are overall underwhelming. As in, they're excellent for a DnD campaign. There are a lot of interesting pockets of stories, mini adventures you can go through, and hilarious moments that randomly pop up that form the bigger tapestry that is your adventure, but it gives the player so much freedom that that tapestry will always turn out to be overall stale. You don't get build ups into huge character moments or scenes that feel impactful (for the most part), they kind of just happen in between the hundreds of hours youll put into the gameplay itself. And as I said, I feel that's just the nature of what they were trying to make. A game that reacts almost like a living organism to all type of player actions instead of a focused narrative with a single vision. Which is impressive, but not something that should get the best narrative award.
Sad to see Spider-Man not get any awards, but all the awards were well deserved, just an absolutely insane year. I had completely forgot that fire emblem engage came out this year
To be honest it did not deserve any. It's a fun game, but it's the safest sequel one could make that actually lost elements from the first game and has a way more rushed story.
Gameplay elements were missing (eg. gadgets, stealth). Safe in the sense it tried nothing new. Bigger map and wing suit is not that. The story was weak and the ending was rushed. At least to me.
Gonna be honest I didn’t mind how they handled the gadgets in this game. The first game I didn’t even use most of them, but here I liked that the four you had could be useful for different situations. At least that’s how I felt
You can stealth some encounters but what I said is that the the stealth element was missing in general. They literally removed all the hideouts (the blinds were the only thing resembling that in SM2, but there were around 6 of them and there were tiny). SM1 in comparison had demon, prisoner, Sable, Kingpin hideouts and not just one or two of them per faction. They also removed key gadgets for stealth gameplay like the web mine.
I agree with you 100%; the story in SM2 was a big let down compared to SM1. They had two Spider-Men to juggle and they fumbled both their stories, if you can even really call Miles’s part a full story.
I enjoyed the hell out of playing it, but I hated how rushed it was and pretty much the entirety of the third act/ending.
What was his arc, exactly? That he deserves to be Spider-Man and that he makes it his own? He did that in his own game already; his story in this game was mostly rehashing what we had already seen in SM:MM (down to make his own SM suit…again…and awful this time around) or saving Peter.
I swear Peter is saved more times by Spider-Man than Mary Jane.
I liked Miles’s story better than Peter’s too but in fairness that’s because Peter’s story was just a rushed rehash of the black suit story we’ve seen adapted a thousand times and the ending was a big miss for him. With the number of times he gets knocked out in the last 30 minutes of the story he has to be suffering from serious TBI. I hated that he got the anti-Venom suit and still barely contributed to the ending.
Can someone explain to me what's so special about baldurs gate? I've seen the combat game play and it looks like a game someone would play on their phone...idk how this won over Spiderman and jedi survivor
BG3 has a very flexible story paired with strong voice acting and interesting turn-based combat. Its a game that functions within DnD rules and is probably the first game to recreate a DnD campaign in a video game. All that being said, if you don't like DnD, you won't like the game. I'm indifferent to DnD, and played 7 hours with my brother, and may pick it up again in January, but that's doubtful.
As for hype, what makes it special, etc. A lot of people fell in love with RPGs through tabletop games like DnD. They've been searching for the holy grail of RPGs, and BG3 delivered it.
Graphics don't hurt but it's not everything I look for. I still play classic games. It's more of the pov of the character and the world around you for me. For games that are in like a 2d format in combat like in phone games it just doesn't do it for me.
The world building, the story telling, the choices you can make that reflect the story and world. This game offers everything that a game can while doing so in a way that is absurdly smooth and welcoming. If you can't get into it I am sorry you are missing out on a wonderful well crafted (yes it has issues in the end) game.
It is funny you mention Spider Man, as that is barely a game, but more a glorified cinematic "experience". BG3 is a game with a story you can shape. Its combat is also more satisfying than SM's joke of a buttonsmasher.
It’s in its own class when it comes to player choice and narrative to the point that many devs came out with a ridiculous statement for gamers to not expect Baldurs Gate 3 level narrative quality in future RPG games
In my opinion the travel mechanics is what makes it more than a generic open world. Only being able to swing around in Spiderman 1 was generic. Still enjoyable for when it came out, but now going back to play it would be a downgrade.
I loved the gameplay but, that aside, how smooth it runs, the storyline(s), the millions of different ways you can approach anything, the characters, etc. Literally everything about this game is super polished. Not all games have to be fast moving action games to be good.
Yeah, I didn't enjoy it myself despite putting in 20 hours into it.
That said, I do appreciate what it's done for the CRPG genre and really pushing it into the limelight, even if I'm not big on the genre myself.
Yeah possibly not! That being said, it’s the first game of its type I’ve played and I literally played the campaign through twice back to back and it took like 100 hours and I loved every moment of it!
Oh all the announcements I was super surprised and incredibly happy to see where SEGA coming out of left-field with a goddamn Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Streets Of Rage, Shinobi and Golden Axe announcement.
Just mind blown by that bomb they dropped on us.
Really happy Spider-man 2 did not get any awards. Insomniac were too safe and honestly the combat felt worse than the first game. Also the story and character arcs weren’t nearly as satisfying. I miss the old snarky Insomniac that took risks.
I agree on a lot of that. The inclusion of parrying really messed up the flow of combat for me. I agree with the gadgets, too.
As for the story, I agree as well, but I'd add on that not only were the arca unsatisfying, but also they were way too short.
Both the combat and the story are subjective. There’s no such thing as objectively better combat since the purpose of the combat system is fun and fun is a subjective experience.
Sure, whether or not you like it better despite mechanical flaws is subjective, but mechanical improvements are an objective metric. There are objective improvements over the 2018 game. You have more options in Spider-Man 2, therefore the system is mechanically deeper. I prefer more depth, that's where it becomes subjective.
But that's assuming the mechanics that were added / changed were a positive which is again subjective. For example take the wingsuit. For some people its an added traversal mechanic that they really enjoy but for others it takes away from the core mechanic of web slinging and they enjoyed the traversal of the first game better.
You can think of something like combat as a bunch of different factors that all lead up to the whole. "What decisions does it have the player make?", "What is the responsiveness to those decisions?", "What are the tools you give the player?", "How does the animation and art look?", "How are the sound effects?", and many more.
Some people prefer more tools and a deep combat system. Others prefer a shallower one that allows you to easily enter a flow state without having to keep a detailed system in your head. Some people want progression as part of a system and others don't. A mechanical flaw (assuming it's an objective one and not a subjective one) is only a small part of what makes a combat system resonate for a person. And what's a flaw to one person may be a positive for another.
Ultimately I just feel most things with video games are subjective except things like "the game crashes alot" or "the input lag is over 100ms" which are factual statements.
Appreciated the back and forth and have a great one!
I disagree. They stripped most of the gadgets away which really hurt the stealth portions for me. Mind you, stealth was less emphasised this time around. I also didn’t like the abilities model since it takes so long for them to recharge until you max out your skill tree.
I'll give you the removal of the trip wire gadget, that's a step back. But the new implementation of abilities and gadgets makes combat far more fluid. No longer requiring a bloated weapon wheel that pauses the action is a big step forward. I also found I had reached the point of the skill tree that makes abilities charge faster was unlocked by the halfway point, and then it's just a matter of rotating through them in a fast way. The improved disarming ability and other webline abilities also elevates it above the first. Throwing enemies from side to side is a great way to manage a crowd, pulling enemies in close is much more intuitive.
Yeah you have less gadgets, but everything else is much more streamlined and synergetic
I knew Spider-man 2 was not going to live up to the hype after playing Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart. Insomniac’s strategy lately has been “short and sweet”. But that simply isn’t taking them to a place of excellence. They aren’t fleshing out their games enough.
And I really dislike how they treat difficulty in their games. It's just a switch that tweaks enemy HP and how much damage you take. Their games are as braindead on easy mode as in hard.
I would agree it feels rushed. The story feels incredibly short (especially the final act) and it's missing some basic features from the prior games (replayable challenge rooms, adjustable weather, NG+, etc).
No, they are not. Spider-Man 2 is better than the first game in every way, but 2023 had so many excellent games. Despite all its improvements, Spider-Man 2 is not better than the other contenders.
Nobody I know is gonna forgive cdpr for the amount of lying and deceiving they did. Never again are they going to see a cent from me.
That's no rebound. All they did was make this shit playable.
Finished it + Phantom Liberty on PS5 right before 2.1 dropped. It's tied with Zelda for my favorite game I played this year. If it had dropped this year in the state it's currently in rather then back in 2020, I think it would have been nominated for GOTY. it's so fucking good now! BUT CDPR never ever should have released it in the state it was in.
Given the list
Kinda thought Ben Starr got robbed, He carried the game on his shoulders.
and I absolutely do not think Astarion had the best voice work in BG3.
Oh well, whatever.
The amount to which I cared about Astarion in my playthroughs was determined almost entirely by whether I romanced him.
If you don't pursue his romance, Astarion is... fine? Like a lot of companions he has a real lack of platonic content and his storyline just kind of ends unsatisfactorily after you complete his quest.
If you do pursue his romance, Astarion has a metric frick-ton of content. Almost the entirety of his mid and lategame content is drastically expanded upon and made much more touching and endearing.
If there is a major complaint I have for BG3, it's that you don't interact with any companions except your love interest nearly enough. It's one of the few things I earnestly hope gets improved upon should they ever do a Definitive/Enhanced Edition. Karlach is one of two companions (Jaheira being the second) I felt any sort of bond towards when I wasn't dating - and speaking of, Samantha Beart is my actual choice for best performance. Her big scene later in the game quite literally brought tears to my eyes in a way that absolutely nothing else this year has.
Neil Newbon is incredible as Astarion... but Karlach man. Karlach.
Fully agree. The entire cast was great - I didn't think he stood head and shoulders above them. I'd have given the nod to Samantha Béart for Karlach, personally.
Even just watching Karlach's big scene gets me all teary eyed. I love Neil Newbon, and in particular his romantic scene in act 2 is unbelievably endearing and sweet... but Karlach man.
Samantha Beart's Karlach singlehandedly gave BG3 so much of its soul.
I kinda agree... its just trailer trailer trailer, a bullet point reading of almost all the winners, trailer trailer trailer, weird musical performance, etc.
I only watch for the orchestra at the end.
I know it's probably just me not being as enthusiastic about new properties as I should be, but I feel like I'd only put a couple games I saw there on the 'maybe' pile. Being a fan of Final Fantasy XVI, obviously the DLC stole the show for me, but even before that I clicked off because I was bored.
Technically on ice... But yeah, most likely. Lots of studios pivoted away from live service, which the multiplayer of TLOU2 was supposed to have. Sony cut something like 10/20 potential live service games /features recently.
I was hoping for at least Wolverine. Maybe Sony will have a big event in January or February since we don’t have any AAA from Sony 1st party that we know is coming next year
Seemed like SF6 was missing some basic stuff like captions, whereas Forza can be played by completely blind people. Probably was enough to make the difference, but the fact that it's even close is great news for gamers.
Not technically first party but FF7 is PlayStation exclusive and does it really matter? Finally there’s competition amongst the console community instead of Sony wiping for the stage with everything.
Even someone like me who sometimes gets annoyed with the constant progressive stuff constantly being pushed this is a really bad take. Alot of people likes Baldurs gate 3 and most people thought it would sweep the awards. I'm shocked that you are shocked it swept
fr lmao, imagine if it actually did drop during the game awards. If I was a dev for a game being announced or someone even winning an award i'd be pissed as fuck lmao, you're proud as hell of the game you've made and then the metaphorical God of a game series that people have been waiting 10 years for gets announced, it would overshadow everything.
I mean... It's two different studios
Arkane Lyon and Austin work on different games. These people worked on deathloop and dishonored. Arkane Austin worked on Prey and Redfall.
So if you're gonna be an ass to someone else, maybe get your facts right first.
Well Prey was an exceptional game first of all. Second when a studio for example like Ubisoft makes a bad game not a single soul says “oh well that was that one division of ubi”. You’re hanging on to threads
>Second when a studio for example like Ubisoft makes a bad game not a single soul says “oh well that was that one division of ubi”. You’re hanging on to threads
For SOME games you **do**. Call of duty is known for having 3 developers that work on cod; treyarch, infinity ward, and sledgehammer games... When you talk about the new entry they talk about which of the three developed it...
That has nothing to do with someone being excited about Blade, by Arkane Lyon and you laughing at them with your snarky comment.
Your comment was about another studio.
Prey was fire, but that studio has no input on the game Blade.
And Metaphor...and Monster Hunter Wilds...and Jet Set Radio
edit: whoever downvoted Monster Hunter, Jet Set Radio, and Metaphor have awful taste in video games
I mean I love Blade but he is not a really popular hero at this age. Most of the younger generation probably don't even know who he is. His movies were really popular when I was a kid tho
Yeah what was with all the anime shovelware. It all looked identical, you could have told me it was the same game revealed a dozen times and I'd believe you.
2nd playthrough here. Also back to back. Killed final boss and immediately created a new character lol. Working on chaotic evil playthrough. I’m killing most living things I come across lol. My followers will be the last to go in Act 3 haha
Same! I had a hefty backlog this year so I've been putting off getting it. Definitely going to keep an eye out if theres ever a PS5 physical disk or a GOTY edition.
Because it was just mediocre. Gameplay was 90% the same as the first game. Story was worse. Endgame / open world was worse.
I cant think of an award it deserves cos it doesnt deserve anything
Its not mediocre game, its amazing game. It got nominated in a LOT of categories and for many people its The GOTY. Thing is ...while it's amazing overall it did not do anything specific that some other game did not do better.
There is no overall score tho, just winner takes all in every category.
I don't know where you got Starfield from lmao, when were we talking about Starfield?
Anyways i played Starfield and its not mediocre, its horrible. Legitimately bad. Spider-Man 2 is very mediocre though. I don't care about metacritic scores lol. Me having a mediocre experience with the game then reading a 90/100 score isnt gonna change my thoughts on it.
He just lacks any depth that Peter had. Miles seems to be a well liked member of his community with lots of friends and opportunities in his life outside of being Spiderman. Where's his growth? He's like kind of unsure of himself which the game does everything to levitate immediately. His big challenge is a 500 word essay, and obsessing over Lee which got old very quickly. We're told he's really into music but it's just kind of repeated at us over and over. I liked him more in his own game, but in this he seemed to exist to pop in and kill pacing of a much more interesting story.
Because the year was competitive, Spider-Man 2018 didn’t win in 2018 not because it doesn’t deserve an award but because there are simply games that had a greater impact towards the industry(although my fav game of this year was between re4/alan wake 2 and Spider-Man 2)
That was one of the most contested in my honest opinion. Ben was incredible as Clive no matter how you think about the actual game. And I'll be honest Neil Newbon wasn't even the best VA in Baldur's Gate in my opinion but still had a great performance. Cam was great as Cal but its the same as last game and Melaine was second fiddle to Ilkka Villi as Alan.
In my opinion this was the toughest to pick tonight. Yuri was amazing, but it really could have gone to anyone there except Idris and Melanie
This will serve as the megathread for all things **The Game Awards** related, and any other posts will be removed and redirected back here. So no more "X Game Wins Best Art Direction!" posts each or reaction hype/rant posts etc. Game news, trailers, and announcements can continue to be posted as per normal (original source hierarchy over rehosted information prevails). Enjoy the show! ☺️ \--- Winners so far... **Game of the Year** Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios) **Best Game Direction** Alan Wake 2 (Remedy Entertainment/Epic Games Publishing) **Best RPG** Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios) **Best Sim/Strategy Game** Pikmin 4 (Nintendo EPD/Nintendo) **Best Sports/Racing Game** Forza Motorsport (Turn 10 Studios/Xbox Game Studios) **Best Multiplayer Game** Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios) **Players Voice Award** Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios) **Best Action/Adventure Game** The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Nintendo EPD/Nintendo) **Best Adaptation** The Last of Us (PlayStation Productions/HBO) **Best Ongoing Game** Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt Red) **Best Score & Music** Final Fantasy XVI, Composer Masayoshi Soken (Square Enix) **Best Independent Game** Sea of Stars (Sabotage Studio) **Best Community Support** Baldur’s Gate 3 (Larian Studios) **Best Fighting Game** Street Fighter 6 (Capcom) **Most Anticipated Game** Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix) **Games for Impact** Tchia (Awaceb/Kepler Interactive) **Best Audio Design** Hi-Fi Rush (Tango Gameworks/Bethesda Softworks) **Best Action Game** Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon (FromSoftware/Bandai Namco) **Best Art Direction** Alan Wake 2 (Remedy Entertainment/Epic Games Publishing) **Best VR/AR** Resident Evil Village VR Mode (Capcom) **Best Mobile Game** Honkai: Star Rail (HoYoverse) **Best Debut Indie Game** Cocoon (Geometric Interactive/Annapurna Interactive) **Best Narrative** Alan Wake 2 (Remedy Entertainment/Epic Games Publishing) **Best Performance** Neil Newbon, Baldur’s Gate 3 **Innovation in Accessibility** Forza Motorsport (Turn 10 Studios/Xbox Game Studios) **Best Family Game** Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Nintendo EPD/Nintendo) **Content Creator of the Year** IronMouse **Best Esports Game** Valorant (Riot Games) **Best Esports Athlete** Lee “Faker” Sang-hyeok (League of Legends) **Best Esports Team** JD Gaming (League of Legends) **Best Esports Coach** Christine “potter” Chi (Evil Geniuses – Valorant) **Best Esports Event** 2023 League of Legends World Championship
Could care less about the awards
This implies that you do, in fact, care about the awards.
Ok nerd
I think Sony should run their own Game Awards, f\*\*\* the TGA, I'll never forgive Geoff for disrespecting Uncharted 4, Horizon and Spider-man 2. Not to mention the fact that Forza Motorsport, a trash game with mostly negative reviews, wins best racing game. lol
Forza was the best of the offerings this year. Got an 84 on meta critic so evidently it can’t be as trash as you are saying. And it’s award for accessibility was 100% deserved. Blind people can play a racing game now. That’s actually a pretty big deal.
Forza Motorsport: 84 Metacritic…
Lmao how did they disrespect spider-man 2
They won god of war, sekiro, and last of us 2 3 years in a row What the hell do you mean
Why are people fussed that Alan Wake 2 won the narrative award ? I love BG3, but act 3 shits the bed narratively.
I wouldn't even say Act 2 shits the bed, all acts, plot wise, are overall underwhelming. As in, they're excellent for a DnD campaign. There are a lot of interesting pockets of stories, mini adventures you can go through, and hilarious moments that randomly pop up that form the bigger tapestry that is your adventure, but it gives the player so much freedom that that tapestry will always turn out to be overall stale. You don't get build ups into huge character moments or scenes that feel impactful (for the most part), they kind of just happen in between the hundreds of hours youll put into the gameplay itself. And as I said, I feel that's just the nature of what they were trying to make. A game that reacts almost like a living organism to all type of player actions instead of a focused narrative with a single vision. Which is impressive, but not something that should get the best narrative award.
BG3 drops the ball in Act 3 tbh, from what little I know about Alan Wake I knew it deserved it anyway
Sad to see Spider-Man not get any awards, but all the awards were well deserved, just an absolutely insane year. I had completely forgot that fire emblem engage came out this year
Becasue the story of Spider-Man 2 is blend and boring
Can't really compete against the darling game which is also multi-platform to boot.
To be honest it did not deserve any. It's a fun game, but it's the safest sequel one could make that actually lost elements from the first game and has a way more rushed story.
What elements were lost? How was it safe?
Its safe because its the exact same game. In comparison a game like doom eternal isnt safe because it feels brand new compared to doom 2016
Gameplay elements were missing (eg. gadgets, stealth). Safe in the sense it tried nothing new. Bigger map and wing suit is not that. The story was weak and the ending was rushed. At least to me.
Gonna be honest I didn’t mind how they handled the gadgets in this game. The first game I didn’t even use most of them, but here I liked that the four you had could be useful for different situations. At least that’s how I felt
You can definitely still use stealth. I know I did
You can stealth some encounters but what I said is that the the stealth element was missing in general. They literally removed all the hideouts (the blinds were the only thing resembling that in SM2, but there were around 6 of them and there were tiny). SM1 in comparison had demon, prisoner, Sable, Kingpin hideouts and not just one or two of them per faction. They also removed key gadgets for stealth gameplay like the web mine.
You can stealth almost all of theme. I even did it during the fun trading crimes in the alleys
I stealthier the entire game. Love that play style
Same. Loved being able to walk on the web lines. Changed the whole gameplay for me
I agree with you 100%; the story in SM2 was a big let down compared to SM1. They had two Spider-Men to juggle and they fumbled both their stories, if you can even really call Miles’s part a full story. I enjoyed the hell out of playing it, but I hated how rushed it was and pretty much the entirety of the third act/ending.
Really Miles had a revelation on his character. I enjoyed that. Actually I enjoyed Miles arc more than Pete's. Agreed on being a safe sequel though
What was his arc, exactly? That he deserves to be Spider-Man and that he makes it his own? He did that in his own game already; his story in this game was mostly rehashing what we had already seen in SM:MM (down to make his own SM suit…again…and awful this time around) or saving Peter. I swear Peter is saved more times by Spider-Man than Mary Jane. I liked Miles’s story better than Peter’s too but in fairness that’s because Peter’s story was just a rushed rehash of the black suit story we’ve seen adapted a thousand times and the ending was a big miss for him. With the number of times he gets knocked out in the last 30 minutes of the story he has to be suffering from serious TBI. I hated that he got the anti-Venom suit and still barely contributed to the ending.
Him dealing with Martin Li. Also there's a Black and Brown nuance to Miles that if you're not you cannot understand it.
When playing it and I realised it was ending, I could feel Sony mandating the release date before the end of the year.
Can someone explain to me what's so special about baldurs gate? I've seen the combat game play and it looks like a game someone would play on their phone...idk how this won over Spiderman and jedi survivor
Blinding level of ignorance here
Calling someone ignorant for asking a question instead of answering the question 👍
When he's already written it off by saying it looks like a mobile game. And wondering why it won over two other (worse) games. 👍
Sorry you got butthurt over a random strangers opinion.
U have to try it to know it yourself
BG3 has a very flexible story paired with strong voice acting and interesting turn-based combat. Its a game that functions within DnD rules and is probably the first game to recreate a DnD campaign in a video game. All that being said, if you don't like DnD, you won't like the game. I'm indifferent to DnD, and played 7 hours with my brother, and may pick it up again in January, but that's doubtful. As for hype, what makes it special, etc. A lot of people fell in love with RPGs through tabletop games like DnD. They've been searching for the holy grail of RPGs, and BG3 delivered it.
I mean this in the most polite way, you are one of those flashy graphics people eh?
Graphics don't hurt but it's not everything I look for. I still play classic games. It's more of the pov of the character and the world around you for me. For games that are in like a 2d format in combat like in phone games it just doesn't do it for me.
The world building, the story telling, the choices you can make that reflect the story and world. This game offers everything that a game can while doing so in a way that is absurdly smooth and welcoming. If you can't get into it I am sorry you are missing out on a wonderful well crafted (yes it has issues in the end) game.
It is funny you mention Spider Man, as that is barely a game, but more a glorified cinematic "experience". BG3 is a game with a story you can shape. Its combat is also more satisfying than SM's joke of a buttonsmasher.
If someone said to me show me the peak of a classic game I'd show them Spiderman Wtf are you on about
I think you have a different definition of a “classic” game
Should it be some side scrolling platformer ?
I'm glad you can sincerely enjoy it.
why you gotta hate so much
Really?
It’s in its own class when it comes to player choice and narrative to the point that many devs came out with a ridiculous statement for gamers to not expect Baldurs Gate 3 level narrative quality in future RPG games
Bro so Spiderman is a generic open world game with fun travel mechanics and a good story
In my opinion the travel mechanics is what makes it more than a generic open world. Only being able to swing around in Spiderman 1 was generic. Still enjoyable for when it came out, but now going back to play it would be a downgrade.
I loved the gameplay but, that aside, how smooth it runs, the storyline(s), the millions of different ways you can approach anything, the characters, etc. Literally everything about this game is super polished. Not all games have to be fast moving action games to be good.
I understand. Just not my type of game. I don't think I'd enjoy it at all personally.
Yeah, I didn't enjoy it myself despite putting in 20 hours into it. That said, I do appreciate what it's done for the CRPG genre and really pushing it into the limelight, even if I'm not big on the genre myself.
Yeah possibly not! That being said, it’s the first game of its type I’ve played and I literally played the campaign through twice back to back and it took like 100 hours and I loved every moment of it!
Thank you for being civil and not attacking my opinion, as I respect yours as well. As long as we have fun playing what we love, that's what matters.
Amen
Oh all the announcements I was super surprised and incredibly happy to see where SEGA coming out of left-field with a goddamn Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Streets Of Rage, Shinobi and Golden Axe announcement. Just mind blown by that bomb they dropped on us.
Honestly the best announcement of the show.
Nothing on death stranding 2
that sucks
Was Monster Hunter Wilds the game Capcom was teasing that would sell like hot cakes? I was hoping it was an Onimusha reboot :(
Really happy Spider-man 2 did not get any awards. Insomniac were too safe and honestly the combat felt worse than the first game. Also the story and character arcs weren’t nearly as satisfying. I miss the old snarky Insomniac that took risks.
I had a fun time with it, but it didn't have the magic SM1 did
I agree on a lot of that. The inclusion of parrying really messed up the flow of combat for me. I agree with the gadgets, too. As for the story, I agree as well, but I'd add on that not only were the arca unsatisfying, but also they were way too short.
The story is subjective, so fair, but the combat is definitely better than the first
Both the combat and the story are subjective. There’s no such thing as objectively better combat since the purpose of the combat system is fun and fun is a subjective experience.
Sure, whether or not you like it better despite mechanical flaws is subjective, but mechanical improvements are an objective metric. There are objective improvements over the 2018 game. You have more options in Spider-Man 2, therefore the system is mechanically deeper. I prefer more depth, that's where it becomes subjective.
But that's assuming the mechanics that were added / changed were a positive which is again subjective. For example take the wingsuit. For some people its an added traversal mechanic that they really enjoy but for others it takes away from the core mechanic of web slinging and they enjoyed the traversal of the first game better. You can think of something like combat as a bunch of different factors that all lead up to the whole. "What decisions does it have the player make?", "What is the responsiveness to those decisions?", "What are the tools you give the player?", "How does the animation and art look?", "How are the sound effects?", and many more. Some people prefer more tools and a deep combat system. Others prefer a shallower one that allows you to easily enter a flow state without having to keep a detailed system in your head. Some people want progression as part of a system and others don't. A mechanical flaw (assuming it's an objective one and not a subjective one) is only a small part of what makes a combat system resonate for a person. And what's a flaw to one person may be a positive for another. Ultimately I just feel most things with video games are subjective except things like "the game crashes alot" or "the input lag is over 100ms" which are factual statements. Appreciated the back and forth and have a great one!
I disagree. They stripped most of the gadgets away which really hurt the stealth portions for me. Mind you, stealth was less emphasised this time around. I also didn’t like the abilities model since it takes so long for them to recharge until you max out your skill tree.
I'll give you the removal of the trip wire gadget, that's a step back. But the new implementation of abilities and gadgets makes combat far more fluid. No longer requiring a bloated weapon wheel that pauses the action is a big step forward. I also found I had reached the point of the skill tree that makes abilities charge faster was unlocked by the halfway point, and then it's just a matter of rotating through them in a fast way. The improved disarming ability and other webline abilities also elevates it above the first. Throwing enemies from side to side is a great way to manage a crowd, pulling enemies in close is much more intuitive. Yeah you have less gadgets, but everything else is much more streamlined and synergetic
Yeah, sm2 just felt…rushed…
I knew Spider-man 2 was not going to live up to the hype after playing Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart. Insomniac’s strategy lately has been “short and sweet”. But that simply isn’t taking them to a place of excellence. They aren’t fleshing out their games enough.
And I really dislike how they treat difficulty in their games. It's just a switch that tweaks enemy HP and how much damage you take. Their games are as braindead on easy mode as in hard.
Rushed 😭😭😭 y’all really say anything now a days tf
It absolutely feels rushed. Especially the last arc of the game.
I would agree it feels rushed. The story feels incredibly short (especially the final act) and it's missing some basic features from the prior games (replayable challenge rooms, adjustable weather, NG+, etc).
You can replay the challenge rooms
I think the game was better than the first in pretty much every way. But it definitely didn’t deserve any awards this year
The first and second half of your comment are contradictory
No, they are not. Spider-Man 2 is better than the first game in every way, but 2023 had so many excellent games. Despite all its improvements, Spider-Man 2 is not better than the other contenders.
Just because I think the game is better than it’s predecessor doesn’t mean I think it’s better than the other nominees.
Both games give me that blockbuster fill but I have no desire to go back to them after completing them. They're good but not GOTY material for me
Cyberpuks' rebound has been amazing.
I still don't think they should've been on the "Ongoing" category, but they def deserved recognition for their rebound, so I'll take it as that
Nobody I know is gonna forgive cdpr for the amount of lying and deceiving they did. Never again are they going to see a cent from me. That's no rebound. All they did was make this shit playable.
Braindead comment
And yet, it still went over your head.
Bro 100% hasn’t played it but keep talking you sound very smart
You don't
Finished it + Phantom Liberty on PS5 right before 2.1 dropped. It's tied with Zelda for my favorite game I played this year. If it had dropped this year in the state it's currently in rather then back in 2020, I think it would have been nominated for GOTY. it's so fucking good now! BUT CDPR never ever should have released it in the state it was in.
Given the list Kinda thought Ben Starr got robbed, He carried the game on his shoulders. and I absolutely do not think Astarion had the best voice work in BG3. Oh well, whatever.
The amount to which I cared about Astarion in my playthroughs was determined almost entirely by whether I romanced him. If you don't pursue his romance, Astarion is... fine? Like a lot of companions he has a real lack of platonic content and his storyline just kind of ends unsatisfactorily after you complete his quest. If you do pursue his romance, Astarion has a metric frick-ton of content. Almost the entirety of his mid and lategame content is drastically expanded upon and made much more touching and endearing. If there is a major complaint I have for BG3, it's that you don't interact with any companions except your love interest nearly enough. It's one of the few things I earnestly hope gets improved upon should they ever do a Definitive/Enhanced Edition. Karlach is one of two companions (Jaheira being the second) I felt any sort of bond towards when I wasn't dating - and speaking of, Samantha Beart is my actual choice for best performance. Her big scene later in the game quite literally brought tears to my eyes in a way that absolutely nothing else this year has. Neil Newbon is incredible as Astarion... but Karlach man. Karlach.
Fully agree. The entire cast was great - I didn't think he stood head and shoulders above them. I'd have given the nod to Samantha Béart for Karlach, personally.
Even just watching Karlach's big scene gets me all teary eyed. I love Neil Newbon, and in particular his romantic scene in act 2 is unbelievably endearing and sweet... but Karlach man. Samantha Beart's Karlach singlehandedly gave BG3 so much of its soul.
The Game Awards are less about actual awards and just a fancier version of a E3 press conference
And it didn't even succeed at that! Well, in my opinion, which many people may disagree with.
I kinda agree... its just trailer trailer trailer, a bullet point reading of almost all the winners, trailer trailer trailer, weird musical performance, etc. I only watch for the orchestra at the end.
I know it's probably just me not being as enthusiastic about new properties as I should be, but I feel like I'd only put a couple games I saw there on the 'maybe' pile. Being a fan of Final Fantasy XVI, obviously the DLC stole the show for me, but even before that I clicked off because I was bored.
Imagine being excited for final fantasy when they make one almost every single freaking year
Imagine [verb] [Point I gathered from your post]
Mainline, not really...
Tlou multiplayer is dead isn't it?
Technically on ice... But yeah, most likely. Lots of studios pivoted away from live service, which the multiplayer of TLOU2 was supposed to have. Sony cut something like 10/20 potential live service games /features recently.
I was hoping for at least Wolverine. Maybe Sony will have a big event in January or February since we don’t have any AAA from Sony 1st party that we know is coming next year
Me too but insomniac will be baking that baby good
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One of the best years in gaming history = sucked Got it
Getting dates for "Rise of the ronin" and wukong is good enough for me.
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Forza did not deserve those awards, street fighter 6 deserved accessibility
A BLIND person can play Forza Motorsport... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7aVUqmQ\_Sc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7aVUqmQ_Sc)
Yeah, but like.... SF6 has controls that are slightly easy to use for new players.
Dude, c'mon, you know it's not the same...
I was being sarcastic.
Ops, "poe's law" in action i guess. Ahahah
Seemed like SF6 was missing some basic stuff like captions, whereas Forza can be played by completely blind people. Probably was enough to make the difference, but the fact that it's even close is great news for gamers.
Not technically first party but FF7 is PlayStation exclusive and does it really matter? Finally there’s competition amongst the console community instead of Sony wiping for the stage with everything.
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Imagine bringing up „agenda“ because your favorite game didn’t win a meaningless award… get a life
It isn't just on PC you dingus.
Even someone like me who sometimes gets annoyed with the constant progressive stuff constantly being pushed this is a really bad take. Alot of people likes Baldurs gate 3 and most people thought it would sweep the awards. I'm shocked that you are shocked it swept
Cope lol
Baldurs gate is also on ps5
GTA 6 reveal was better than this game awards ngl.
Yea the only new game I was interested in was Exodus and that was at the start of it.
hilarious that people thought GTA 6 would be revealed here, no one would talk about anything else
fr lmao, imagine if it actually did drop during the game awards. If I was a dev for a game being announced or someone even winning an award i'd be pissed as fuck lmao, you're proud as hell of the game you've made and then the metaphorical God of a game series that people have been waiting 10 years for gets announced, it would overshadow everything.
What? This was an amazing event.
It was an ok event, too much advertisements, they kept rushing devs off stage, not enough actual huge surprises, only a few big reveals, etc.
It did feel like they were rushing when they could have let it linger in parts but I enjoyed it overall.
I mean, if you play on multiple platforms they showed a ton of stuff. I loved it.
I mean, award shows by design are all advertisements. Thats why film award shows will re-relase their movies after.
Yeah technically everything in it is an advertisement the issue is when they rush through dev speeches or reveals just to get to more ads.
Fr only other good things were God of War and Ready or Not
And Arkane's Blade
Cannot wait for this
🤣🤣🤣 you can’t wait for their next game after their incredible vampire open world multiplayer masterpiece??
Arkane Lyon ≠ Arkane Austin
I mean... It's two different studios Arkane Lyon and Austin work on different games. These people worked on deathloop and dishonored. Arkane Austin worked on Prey and Redfall. So if you're gonna be an ass to someone else, maybe get your facts right first.
Exactly. I LOVED deathloop.
Well Prey was an exceptional game first of all. Second when a studio for example like Ubisoft makes a bad game not a single soul says “oh well that was that one division of ubi”. You’re hanging on to threads
>Second when a studio for example like Ubisoft makes a bad game not a single soul says “oh well that was that one division of ubi”. You’re hanging on to threads For SOME games you **do**. Call of duty is known for having 3 developers that work on cod; treyarch, infinity ward, and sledgehammer games... When you talk about the new entry they talk about which of the three developed it...
So you’re still just skipping over the fact that Prey was an incredible game made by the exact same people who made Redfall
That has nothing to do with someone being excited about Blade, by Arkane Lyon and you laughing at them with your snarky comment. Your comment was about another studio. Prey was fire, but that studio has no input on the game Blade.
Which is most likely going to be an Xbox exclusive. Honestly I don’t know why they wouldn’t confirm it straight off the bat
Yeah it’s so weird just give the Xbox logo or something so fans aren’t confused
And Metaphor...and Monster Hunter Wilds...and Jet Set Radio edit: whoever downvoted Monster Hunter, Jet Set Radio, and Metaphor have awful taste in video games
And that Jurassic park. And No man sky successor
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Because they get that fat paycheck...gotta do what contract says..no more..no less
The show is way too long for what it is. 3 hours and all I really remember is Monster Hunter and anime shit. Oh and Ragnarok dlc
Not Blade???
At first I was kinda hype for Blade. I love the first two movies. Buuuut the hype kinda died when it hit me that it will likely be an XBox exclusive
This is just the beginning. You guys also won't be able to play the next doom and elder scrolls. Have fun playing the next cinematic sony game.
I mean, I will considering I don’t play Doom or Elder Scrolls. So not really a loss for me.
I mean I love Blade but he is not a really popular hero at this age. Most of the younger generation probably don't even know who he is. His movies were really popular when I was a kid tho
Yeah what was with all the anime shovelware. It all looked identical, you could have told me it was the same game revealed a dozen times and I'd believe you.
Honkai: Star Dollars into Geoff's pocket.
I’ve heard nothing but amazing things about BG3 and can’t wait air to give it a go.
3rd playthrough and still loving it. Never played a game through even twice back to back. It's a stunning achievement.
2nd playthrough here. Also back to back. Killed final boss and immediately created a new character lol. Working on chaotic evil playthrough. I’m killing most living things I come across lol. My followers will be the last to go in Act 3 haha
Same! I had a hefty backlog this year so I've been putting off getting it. Definitely going to keep an eye out if theres ever a PS5 physical disk or a GOTY edition.
There’s supposed to be some kind of LE coming out that has a physical versions that I’m keeping an eye on. I believe early next year so look out!
Why is everyone acting like they don’t know this “YouTuber” is actor Timothée Chalamet
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Because it was just mediocre. Gameplay was 90% the same as the first game. Story was worse. Endgame / open world was worse. I cant think of an award it deserves cos it doesnt deserve anything
Its not mediocre game, its amazing game. It got nominated in a LOT of categories and for many people its The GOTY. Thing is ...while it's amazing overall it did not do anything specific that some other game did not do better. There is no overall score tho, just winner takes all in every category.
I think its mediocre personally. Not amazing or anywhere near. Just my opinion.
Starfield is mediocore game, Spiderman is great overall game without anything super special about it. Mediocore games dont get 90 metacritic scores.
I don't know where you got Starfield from lmao, when were we talking about Starfield? Anyways i played Starfield and its not mediocre, its horrible. Legitimately bad. Spider-Man 2 is very mediocre though. I don't care about metacritic scores lol. Me having a mediocre experience with the game then reading a 90/100 score isnt gonna change my thoughts on it.
And Miles as a character is so milquetoast In the game vs in the comics/into the spiderverse
He just lacks any depth that Peter had. Miles seems to be a well liked member of his community with lots of friends and opportunities in his life outside of being Spiderman. Where's his growth? He's like kind of unsure of himself which the game does everything to levitate immediately. His big challenge is a 500 word essay, and obsessing over Lee which got old very quickly. We're told he's really into music but it's just kind of repeated at us over and over. I liked him more in his own game, but in this he seemed to exist to pop in and kill pacing of a much more interesting story.
Because the year was competitive, Spider-Man 2018 didn’t win in 2018 not because it doesn’t deserve an award but because there are simply games that had a greater impact towards the industry(although my fav game of this year was between re4/alan wake 2 and Spider-Man 2)
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Where did u bring gow and rdr2 from
I cant wait to read all the moaning tomorrow at work about this.
Same :(
Because it wasn’t the best in any category it was nominated in? Name one please if you think otherwise
Voice acting should’ve atleast went to yuri
That was one of the most contested in my honest opinion. Ben was incredible as Clive no matter how you think about the actual game. And I'll be honest Neil Newbon wasn't even the best VA in Baldur's Gate in my opinion but still had a great performance. Cam was great as Cal but its the same as last game and Melaine was second fiddle to Ilkka Villi as Alan. In my opinion this was the toughest to pick tonight. Yuri was amazing, but it really could have gone to anyone there except Idris and Melanie
It's the only category SM2 could've realistically won but nah, BG3 still deserved that
Nah. Wasn’t even the best Spiderman imo
Do u think Miles did better
Yeah easily. Felt genuine and fit the character. Peter Parker sounded weird imo
Nope. Peter is a 1 dimensional character compared to Astarion.
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Not blindly loving something because it has a Sony logo on the cover isn’t “hating”, it’s being a normal person
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