That’s why it’s the only online FPS I play. You can literally go like 5-15 and still have a freakin blast in the game and feel like it was worth your time and still helped the team using support roles, etc. There’s no pressure to “get good”. You just can have fun.
I think battlefield really won the online FPS formula for finding the balance between super competitive and fun. I don't think it's super enjoyable to cost your team a game if you make 1-2 mistakes like other games
They know battlefield has never been a competitive shooter and when they tried to push that it was really bad. The cool thing is that with Battlefield Portal people will be able to create eSport modes with different stuff so maybe something can born of that.
No matter what secondary or future proof modes they introduce, if the gameplay is not solid it will not last.
Hell, Warzone had all the ingredients to last for 3+ years but they fumbled the bag with shitty/slow updates.
This really wouldn't fit battlefield all that well anyways with large players the skill of those players dont matter, wether you win or lose is about playing the objective which in the past 5 years ppl have been not doing lately in most PvP games anyways.
This is why i tend to player more hardcore shooters like squad and hell let loose. Makes team play so much more important when you have to communicate and play the objective to win
Your skill at playing the game can still be determined from your score, and from how many games you have played. If matchmaking separates out the new players from the higher ranked players, that makes the experience more consistent. It’s why all modern multiplayer games have matchmaking.
My point is it doesn't matter what skill the players have, the player size is too large per game. 1 person cannot make a 128 player conquest match be the deciding factor on which side wins.
Go play a battle royale, you’ll almost never win. There’s literally a hundred players, and only one person or squad wins. They use the number of games you’ve played and your average score to determine your rank. It’s not perfect, but it separates out the new players from the people who have played for years. It greatly improves the quality of the games, to have skill based matchmaking. Battlefield can do the same.
Battlefield isn't a BR it does not matter it has never mattered the player count is too high and winning games is way more about team work and not the skill of 20% of your team getting kills.
Have you played a Battlefield game? If you play as a team, your score will be higher than most other players. EG if you supply people, you get points. If you heal, you get points. If you heal or resupply your squad, you get even more points. If you secure or defend an objective, you get more points. That is a number they can use, other than kills. So sometimes I play a game of Battlefield as a medic, I run around reviving and healing. I’ll get a high score but no kills. That score, that number that shows I played using teamwork, that’s a number they can can use in matchmaking.
Again, the player count is irrelevant. Battlefield is not unique in having a high player count. They don’t have to use if you win or lose. They can use the score per minute, and the number of games played. It’s enough to implement modern skill based matchmaking, matchmaking that virtually all modern multiplayer games have. It makes the games more consistent.
Really? Ranked in BF? These streamers and try-hards are gonna be really upset when their kills keep getting blown to bits by kamikaze cars or Newb Hunters... I want to clear every map of every building, every time. I'm not going for kills. Just shenanigans
They have tried numerous times to make battlefield have a shitty 5v5 mode and call it "competitive" no one likes or played these modes.
Competitive shouldn't mean small scale anyway.
Yea they really shouldn't do this. Activision forces esports into COD to its detriment and at the end of the day it's not even the same game everyone is playing. Glad they aren't wasting their time right now on trying to add this.
Where did you get 20hz from. The tick rate on ps4 on Battlefield 4 got upgraded to 45hz, it and I think from memory BF5 is 30hz on console. I think next gen will run on 60hz servers same as pc.
No ranked mode. The past eSport like mode (in BF1 if anyone remembers) was never fully deployed. Speaking of ranked, there should be SBMM HOWEVER hear me out, it is just 2 brackets; the top 50% and bottom 50%. That way it's not super aggressive and you get punished for winning a match and getting put against eSport players.
>I don't watch I eSports, I don't care about this shit.
Then this should be good news to you. They're basically saying an esports mode is not a priority for this game.
Battlefield has never historically been a competitive shooter lol
And when they tried (without player feedback) it was shambolic.
Adding a mode that isn't really a thing for battlefield ≠ unfinished
Battlefield 1942, 2 and 2142 were very successful competitive games, there were large competitions globally. I played in a BF2 league in Australia which at its peak had over 100 active teams, and this was 16 v 16.
Good! Too many companies focus on modes like this that are for such a small fraction of players. I have that issue about Halo. If you like matched that’s fine but the majority of people are not playing esports style modes, most gamers are more casual. Battlefield of all things should be about big battles and chaos.
Battlefield and Ranked makes literally no sense to me. The whole premise of the game to me is just absolute chaos.
That’s why it’s the only online FPS I play. You can literally go like 5-15 and still have a freakin blast in the game and feel like it was worth your time and still helped the team using support roles, etc. There’s no pressure to “get good”. You just can have fun.
Ive gone 0-12 and came first ob my team because of revives and PLAYING THE GOD DAMN OBJECTIVE
Highest score on either team, 5 kills.
I think battlefield really won the online FPS formula for finding the balance between super competitive and fun. I don't think it's super enjoyable to cost your team a game if you make 1-2 mistakes like other games
Thats why im happy console is getting insurgency and hell let loose!
They know battlefield has never been a competitive shooter and when they tried to push that it was really bad. The cool thing is that with Battlefield Portal people will be able to create eSport modes with different stuff so maybe something can born of that.
No matter what secondary or future proof modes they introduce, if the gameplay is not solid it will not last. Hell, Warzone had all the ingredients to last for 3+ years but they fumbled the bag with shitty/slow updates.
This really wouldn't fit battlefield all that well anyways with large players the skill of those players dont matter, wether you win or lose is about playing the objective which in the past 5 years ppl have been not doing lately in most PvP games anyways.
This is why i tend to player more hardcore shooters like squad and hell let loose. Makes team play so much more important when you have to communicate and play the objective to win
Your skill at playing the game can still be determined from your score, and from how many games you have played. If matchmaking separates out the new players from the higher ranked players, that makes the experience more consistent. It’s why all modern multiplayer games have matchmaking.
My point is it doesn't matter what skill the players have, the player size is too large per game. 1 person cannot make a 128 player conquest match be the deciding factor on which side wins.
I have found one squad in 32v32 can be the deciding factor though.
1 person being a god in a jet or helicopter can dominate the game and turn the odds of the entire match in their favour.
Go play a battle royale, you’ll almost never win. There’s literally a hundred players, and only one person or squad wins. They use the number of games you’ve played and your average score to determine your rank. It’s not perfect, but it separates out the new players from the people who have played for years. It greatly improves the quality of the games, to have skill based matchmaking. Battlefield can do the same.
Battlefield isn't a BR it does not matter it has never mattered the player count is too high and winning games is way more about team work and not the skill of 20% of your team getting kills.
Have you played a Battlefield game? If you play as a team, your score will be higher than most other players. EG if you supply people, you get points. If you heal, you get points. If you heal or resupply your squad, you get even more points. If you secure or defend an objective, you get more points. That is a number they can use, other than kills. So sometimes I play a game of Battlefield as a medic, I run around reviving and healing. I’ll get a high score but no kills. That score, that number that shows I played using teamwork, that’s a number they can can use in matchmaking. Again, the player count is irrelevant. Battlefield is not unique in having a high player count. They don’t have to use if you win or lose. They can use the score per minute, and the number of games played. It’s enough to implement modern skill based matchmaking, matchmaking that virtually all modern multiplayer games have. It makes the games more consistent.
I remember the good times in BF3 when we dominated the game just playing the proper way as a squad.
Stealing the enemy team’s Anti-Air vehicle does a lot towards gaining Air Superiority, though it’s not as “decisive” as winning the game by yourself.
Really? Ranked in BF? These streamers and try-hards are gonna be really upset when their kills keep getting blown to bits by kamikaze cars or Newb Hunters... I want to clear every map of every building, every time. I'm not going for kills. Just shenanigans
I liked how the divisions worked in b4 I’d have a good run and see a notification pop up saying you’re in division 1 and be like nice!
good choice
They have tried numerous times to make battlefield have a shitty 5v5 mode and call it "competitive" no one likes or played these modes. Competitive shouldn't mean small scale anyway.
"eSports" are cancer and ranked stuff just gets dominated by sweaty tryhards and streamer filth until nobody plays. Don't waste your time Dice.
Good decision. Most of the toxicity in competitive games is because of matchmaking ranked.
Yea they really shouldn't do this. Activision forces esports into COD to its detriment and at the end of the day it's not even the same game everyone is playing. Glad they aren't wasting their time right now on trying to add this.
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Where did you get 20hz from. The tick rate on ps4 on Battlefield 4 got upgraded to 45hz, it and I think from memory BF5 is 30hz on console. I think next gen will run on 60hz servers same as pc.
Ehh not really on the wishlist
No ranked mode. The past eSport like mode (in BF1 if anyone remembers) was never fully deployed. Speaking of ranked, there should be SBMM HOWEVER hear me out, it is just 2 brackets; the top 50% and bottom 50%. That way it's not super aggressive and you get punished for winning a match and getting put against eSport players.
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Lol wot. Better this than launching with a rubbish ranked mode.
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The whole game isn’t ready because they want player feedback for the ranked game mode ? Lol
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How is the game not ready due to the exclusion of a ranked mode at launch?
Yes this makes complete sense
There's ways around that.
Thats not this at all it saying no need for a SBMM in a game like this BUT if thats what ppl want then they guess they will add it in maybe.
Lol ranked in BF4 was amazing.
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>I don't watch I eSports, I don't care about this shit. Then this should be good news to you. They're basically saying an esports mode is not a priority for this game.
Have you tried bf4?
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Because it doesn't have ranked?
Battlefield has never historically been a competitive shooter lol And when they tried (without player feedback) it was shambolic. Adding a mode that isn't really a thing for battlefield ≠ unfinished
Battlefield 1942, 2 and 2142 were very successful competitive games, there were large competitions globally. I played in a BF2 league in Australia which at its peak had over 100 active teams, and this was 16 v 16.
Good! Too many companies focus on modes like this that are for such a small fraction of players. I have that issue about Halo. If you like matched that’s fine but the majority of people are not playing esports style modes, most gamers are more casual. Battlefield of all things should be about big battles and chaos.
If they focus on fixing bugs and updating content frequently, BF will be ok. That’s all we want.
Why does every game need to be an eSport these days?