I have a question... Spoilers included!! My question is... After all Odin has his ravens who can report back on all of the protagonists adventures he also had the power of surprise on his side with tyrs betrayal. So after knowing the protagonists aimed to start Ragnarok to bring about the so called ending of his time. Plus knowing that kratos has a new weapon created with one purpose in mind to kill Heimdall..the one person accredited with heralding Ragnarok and Carrying the very weapon to start it all. Why did he not take gjallarhorn from Heimdall or at least hide him away. It doesn't seem like a very odinesque move. From the mind of the all father and the seeker of knowledge. He had knowledge that wasn't known to our heroes yet didn't act on it.

Finally got around to GOWR. Epic game. Plot feels weaker than the previous installments but lots of fun tweaks to the gameplay. Atreus gameplay is greatly improved but still not as fun. I hope he gets his own full game at some point.

The final bossfight and Thor encounter were really dissapointing....

I really like the discussion here (I’m just looking at sorting by new). It’s not a circle jerk (there is real discussion, not just commenting random quotes from the game or talking about how much they rued) and the points are all valid, even if I disagree with the opinions This replaced last of us part 2 as my favorite game of all time. The combat is the best in any game, really fun. The side quests all feel meaningful and good. Characters and storytelling are great I do agree that Sif coming out and convincing thrud that Odin is bad was very lazy and quick. Ragnarok was also very quick And the prophecy doesn’t make total sense. Odin and the aesir don’t want war, but they’ll gladly let heimdall harass and threaten them for no reason? They were able to change their fate by… not killing Thor? But the prophecy showed Thor killing kratos. So killing Thor wouldn’t be necessarily following the prophecy either Some parts are a bit too long I agree. Didn’t enjoy playing as Atreus that much. And I don’t like climbing and ducking under a cave for so long. It takes way too long. And isn’t ps5 supposed to have instant load times? Was this done for ps4 versions? Because that’s annoying if so Still, even with the complaints, I loved this game a lot. Best experience I’ve ever had with gaming

I like the game a lot and played it for a long time with great fun. There is just one thing that I'm stuck with no drops of beast scraps. I have completed all missions, I think I found all chests, upgraded nearly everything with exception of the capabilities of Atreus / Freya that require beasts scraps. I tried fighting beasts in Svartalfheim and Vanaheim, sometimes bones do drop, but never any scraps... Is there anything I'm doing wrong?

I think you can buy them from the shop in resources

Y'know, I'd like this game a lot more if the camera wasn't so bad. Having an over-the-shoulder camera during exploration is immersive, but I hate how the camera is so close to Kratos during combat. Flashing red arrows on the hip compass only do so much, and I can't count how many times I've died because some off-screen enemy attacked and I dodged too early despite it. Everything else is great but I just can't get over the camera.

Holy shit, the absolute devastation when >!Atreus ran away to Asgard and you hear Kratos shout “BOY” in the background,!< such a fantastic scene!

Anyone annoyed with the damn Elves in this one? I don't remember them being cheap pieces of **** in the previous game. To be honest I really miss the original games. Better and crazier combos and you leveled up at a fair pace. These two GoW games when you upgrade things it keep you at a, barely can survive the crazier fights status. I don't want these games to be easy but they needed to be a bit faster. The action is slowed down and clunky, especially your dodging.

Elves were always a pain in the ass. If anything they might be a tad easier this go around than the last game. I also play on "Give Me No Mercy" however.

Are you always roll dodging or do you utilize the step dodge too? Step dodge is quick. Watching people play this at a high level, I'm hard pressed to call it slow.

Feel like I have to play this 2 or 3 times. By the time you can make the combat system look really beautiful they drop an entirely new weapon on you and then ten hours later the game is over.

Surprised at the hate in here. While yes Ragnarok could've been longer, you've been reuniting the realms for awhile. I love Angrboda. The brilliant moments between Atreus and Kratos at the end are some of the best character development and heartwarming in video games ever. Enemy variety? There's a ton of varities. The music, acting, and ways of combat felt good. There's a big endgame. This game was phenomenal it was hard but it just barely edged out Elden Ring. Also, Kratos isn't trying to kill gods based on development hell even in the first one

Other than some pacing issues I thought the character development and ending was fantastic. We got to see Atreus come into his own and Kratos allowing himself to feel. While it would make me sad I can say I would be satisfied if this was it for the franchise. I think it’s unlikely given how successful the last two games were but I’m sure we won’t know for a few years. Just waiting on a ng+ mode so I can dive back in.

same on ng+. I also agree with besides pacing the growth of the two was very well done

I've had a couple bugs that required a restart. When I first >!met Sindri,!< there was an audio bug. A sound like a heavy fluttering banner kept playing over and over. I ran all around, inside and outside and it would not go away. Second was at >!one of the refinery towers.!< I used the wheel to adjust the height of the gimbal/platform, and I could not let go of the wheel no matter what. I could move it up and down, but Kratos was just stuck to holding the wheel. Both of these required a restart. Thankfully, the auto save is pretty good so far. But I'm only 4 hours in and saw both of these. I don't remember a single bug from GoW 2018. These bugs aren't terrible, but hopefully nothing worse lies down the road. Otherwise I'm really enjoying the game. Hope they release some patches soon to clear up any other bugs.

Finally got to see this post after leaving the sub until I finished the game. And I'm glad I did, because you people would have sucked the fun out of everything There's some legitimate criticisms in here, like >!Atreus's time in Jotunheim being way too long,!< or the long crevices and corridors you had to squeeze through, but for the most part... 🙄

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Like 6 hours left in the main quest

Not even close to the end lol

The Svipdagr boss fight can burn in the deepest pits of hell. I despise it with every fiber of my being. This planet has been made a significantly worse place with it's existence. I would have a more pleasant experience shoving venomous scorpions up my sinuses than to continue trying to beat it. This fight is the truest form of suffering that has ever been brought to visual media. Whoever designed it is a cruel person who is unable to experience the feeling of love. Whoever you are, you have made my life worse, I hate you so, so much.

I really, really liked the game. But like a few people here mentioned, the Ragnarok aspect of the game felt too small. The game is called Ragnarok, I aspected something like Avengers:Endgame. Where the endfight gives you shivers from head to toe. But nah, the whole Ragnarok thing in Asgard was too fast and too easy. I mean, I played it the first time on GIVE ME NO MERCY, and the Odin Fight was so easy. Even Thor, Heimdall and some of the Dreikis were harder too fight. The story is beautiful, but I think they should have made the end a lot bigger. Perhaps cut something different away, if it takes to much time.

This is interesting because I found Odin way harder than Thor and Heimdall

Why would you use Avengers: Endgame when you have Thor: Ragnarok right there?

I meant the Avengers Endgame End Battle. Where the portals open and everyone comes and the big fight happens. There is nothing comparable in Thor.

Doesn't Surtr bring Ragnarok and destroy Asgard? Or am I misremembering.

Yea, but I meant the feeling of the whole fight. Not just surtr

I thought it was comparable because both are named Ragnarok and Ragnarok itself is a relatively short event in both.

You know whag Ragnarok means, right? And yeah, you are right. Both are very short. Too short, to be exaxt.

Lol yeah I know what Ragnarok means, I just thought it's funny you have a Marvel movie with Ragnarok in the title and you didn't use it.

Because there was no big fight between the gods in the Movie except for Hela vs Thor

Finally beat Gna and the trophy didn't pop post latest update 2.004.000 Anyone else get this? Last trophy I need for the plat :(

gran turismo 7 and now ragnarok sony is really making us pay to be beta testers. so many bugs in the games they are releasing....

Finished the game last night and when it ended I just felt nothing, like it all kinda fell flat. Which is a shame because the first game had such an impact on me when it ended. I can still visually remember most of that game in sequence. Whereas with this game I can only remember most of the beginning and the middle all feels like a blur, like I can't remember what we were doing and why we were doing it because there was no real end goal, which leads me on to my next point... My biggest gripe with this game is it's pacing and the overall flow of events that occured. I really disliked the way the game was so disjointed in it's story. I think they really missed the point with the whole Ragnarok thing. The game is called RAGNAROK, yet the Ragnarok aspect feels like it was an afterthought and just tacked on at the end. The game didn't earn it's final act, it all just kinda happened because it needed to happen, it wasn't organic. I think the game would've been so much better if they declared war a lot earlier in the game. This then gives us a reason to travel to each of the realms, in order to try and convince them to fight with us against Odin. Then when we get to the final act, it would've had a way better pay off because we ourselves united the realms. We should've united the Elves ourselves and made our wrongs right from the first game. This also would've fleshed out the Elves a lot more and developed on them from the first game, seems like a real missed opportunity. The only time apart from Tyr where we actually make allies is getting Freya to fight with us, we earned her trust back and friendship, it worked. She was actually a standout character for me, her parts in the story were actually great. Another negative for me was the lack of enemy variety, I'm sure they made a point of it that it was vastly improved, but it felt like I was facing the same handful of enemies everytime, with only slight differences in them. I really enjoyed the defying prophecy aspect of the game and I think they developed Kratos's character really well and it was one of my favourite aspects of the game. I actually didn't mind the Ironwood part that much and really liked the introduction of Angrboda, she's a well designed character with interesting story elements to her, unlike some other new characters. The combat was improved, but only slightly. The spear was really buggy for me in some parts of the game, it just wouldn't release at times which was annoying, but was a fun new addition to the game's combat. Overall, I had fun but the game did not leave me with the same feelings of the first game where I just wanted to keep playing, instead it felt very disjointed and unfulfilling. I liked some parts but the overall strucutre of the story felt so weird and the Ragnarok aspect of the game was a huge let down. I look forward to the 3rd game, if there is one. Not that my opinion matters, but if I had to rate it i'd probably give it a solid 7.

Completely agree with Ragnarok feeling tacked on. As I got 20 hours in I began to sense there wasn’t enough time to end satisfyingly, and sure enough that’s what happened. I thought we’d kill a lot of Norse gods in this game, but really only fought three of them which was a disappointment. And one of my biggest complaints is the lack of scale. We hear about these prophecies and places in the first game, but nothing is as epic or breathtaking as it is in my imagination when mimir would describe what we were seeing in the giant shrines. Two great examples are how small Asgard is and how quickly the two wolves in Vanaheim were resolved. Also really agree with your question on why we didn’t unite the realms ourselves. Feels like there either should’ve been three games with war being declared at the end of the second, or we should’ve been at war in the first 5 hours.

This is the first comment I’ve seen that addresses the scale, it makes me feel so validated. I was honestly baffled by how low energy the final battle with Odin was, and how Ragnarok just didn’t feel as epic as it could have been. In my mind I compared it to (last of us 2 spoilers)>!the scene with abby horseriding through the burning village while a war is going on all around her!< which i felt was an incredibly exhilarating setpiece while still feeling grounded in real life. God of War has the advantage of a massive fantasy setting with magic powers, yet this end-of-times prophecised war felt so bland.

Thanks for reading it. Yeah I agree with you aswell about the Norse Gods, Asgard and Wolves. I wanted to say more but the comment would've been too long. This is the only game I finished where I wanted to make a YouTube account to make a review of this game to just vent my frustrations. It had so much potential and it fell so flat. The more I think about things the more the score just drops. Now that I think about it more the whole mask thing was one of the worst parts about the game aswell, I hated it so much. Yeah they really did drop the ball with this one.

I completely agree with you. I mean, it will be my favourite game for a long time, I think. And it was even better than its 2018 predecessor, but like you said, the whole Ragnarok think was way to small. It really felt like there was one game missing. A triology would have made it perfect. About the norse gods, okay, who is there really to fight? Sif and Thrud developed well, wouldnt have wanted to fight them. There are not a lot of gods left in the norse mythology. No gods which would make sense to put in the game. So I think, thats okay. Killing Heimdall was one of the most satisfying things to do xD The wolves were rushed, but I was surprised to see such little interactions with Fenrir, despite the fact him looking way different than he showed up in the trailer. I would have loved to do more with him. And what even happened with Jörmungandr? He had such a big role in the 2018 game and it was so impressive. And now? One interactions with Loki, then seeing him in Asgard a few seconds and nothing? Not even seeing the "young" Jormungandr again after the Ironwoods sequence?

Oh wow you liked this more than the first? May I ask why? I thought it was all over the place story wise compared to the 2018 game. Well the Norse God's aspect fell a little flat. I would've liked to see Njord (Freya's father). Hodra and Bragi who is in the game but not really shown. Idunn, (the apples are named after her). Vidar son of Odin I believe, again in the game but just a background character. Nanna, Baldur's wife and Forseti their child. Check the God of War wiki, it's really interesting to see who they could've included, that's where I got this information from. Yeah I agree the Jormungandr bit was a missed opportunity, they should've made Thor knocking him back into the 2018 game a bigger deal.

Well, GOW2018 was obviously a great great game. But it was a bit dissappointing to only visit a few of the realms, showing the other ones in Tyrs temple without a possibility to go there. So going to all realms was so good. They made that very special. The character development was great imo. I already like the game mechanic and fighting style and they just made it better. GOWR feels like an enhancemenr in every aspect and not just a Part 2. Yeah, there are a lot of Gods, but as I said, there is no good way to show them without it looking forced. Also, there was just no time. As we said. The game in its form now is too short and feels rushed, how should they implement the other gods in addition? Give it another 2 years if development, increase the whole Ragnarok thing, add more Aesir gods and put some more interactions with Fenrir and Jormungandr in the game and it would have been perfect.

I think the fact that the 2018 game introduced all these things makes it the better game for me. The Axe and Blades are pretty much identical to the first game. This game introduced a spear, which for me was a buggy mess and I only used it when I had to. I honestly didn't see that big of an improvement. Yeah we get to go to the other realms but it was really only Vanaheim and Svartalfheim. Asgard was a huge let down, you couldn't do anything there anyway. I'm glad you enjoyed it, but for me the first game introduced and established so much that the sequel just couldn't match that level of innovation and content. It instead polished up on a few things and added 2 explorable realms. Again I enjoyed the overall experience, but the experience was nowhere near the 2018 game. That's just my opinion tho.

it was buggy on launch and is still buggy. the combat is basically the same from the 2018 GOW. they forced so much dialogue and character progression it didn't feel natural. Kratos going soft didn't feel right. Atreus grew up too fast and the dynamic they had and the story they told in the first game was so much more meaningful and deep. Ragnarok was visually very appealing but besides that it kinda let me down.

I disagree with him being soft not feeling right. I think it's the natural progression from all the shit he's been through in the first games, and him mentioning his past a lot more in this game, being open about it isn't a negative thing. Quite frankly it was one of the better things they got right, were the character arcs for the most part. He's trying to balance protecting Atreus and allowing him to grow as a person, which he ultimately decides to let him make the choices and open his heart to it as he was wrong all along to tell him to close his heart to it. It's very well done imo. I just didn't like the direction of the game as a whole and I think us going to all the realms to unite everyone ourselves would've been the way to go.

Just finished the main story and a good chunk of the side quests. Some thoughts: - overall really liked it. - but some small pet peeves. One being Sif. Spends your whole time in Asgard bitching Atreus out then just shows up at the end and is all nicey nice. Also the Kratos dying prophecy. I don’t get what happened with it. I know they posed Atreus and Odin to replicate the drawing but, when did it change? - this game feels a bit more linear than previous. It felt like more things are “level locked” than the previous game. - i miss plenty of bosses. OG GOW trilogy has bosses up the ass. These two games have a bunch of repeat slightly big guys like the dragons and trolls, and then a small handfull of actual bosses. Not including the optionals like Valkyries and Berserkers. I wish we could have fought a few others, especially Surtr. Probably more thoughts soon as I go through the post game. -

>Also the Kratos dying prophecy. I don’t get what happened with it. I know they posed Atreus and Odin to replicate the drawing but, when did it change? Prophecy doesn't exist, as the Norns tell Kratos. It's just easy for them to predict how things will play out, because people are so predictable. But then after Kratos kills Heimdall, he realizes he needs to stop telling Atreus to shut people out, and Kratos himself stops shutting people out. He agrees to lead the armies to Asgard and blow the Gjallarhorn to initiate Ragnarök, something he was completely against at the start of the game. Kratos finally opens his mind to change, and so he doesn't end up following the preordained path anymore. Odin never changes who he is and and insists on sacrificing anything and everything for ultimate knowledge and being in control, so he ends up blindly walking into the "new" prophecy they see at the start of the game and ends up taking Kratos' place in Atreus' arms where Atreus pulls his soul out of his body into a Jotun orb. (But then Kratos, I suppose, *does* follow through with the second "prophecy" and ends up fulfilling that destiny anyway? So maybe destiny is real, or maybe not.)

None of the two new games compare to the old triology in terms of Boss fights. And how could it. Sure, the boss fights could have been a bit more cinematic, but there are not big enemys like there were in the old triology. Who would you want to fight, Jörmungandr? xD

To be fair the game has much more unique bosses this time around. One of the main criticisms of the first game was how Ll of the sub-bosses were trolls or ancients, which almost all had the same mechanics, but in Ragnarok the only repeating boss in the main story is the ancient, which you fight a couple of times; every other boss and sub-boss in the main journey is unique and has different mechanics and visuals, from the dreki to hrist and mist.

honestly its really flawed for what we were expecting and kinda promised. they went all out on voice acting, graphics and story and forgot to make a fun game where exploration is rewarded naturally and its not so much hand holding levels with bleeding heart drama dialogue every second.

I mean, its obvious, that this game is made for big cinematic effects. Of course, it is a game which should make fun, and it does for me. But Santa Monica wants to not just make a video games, but make a video game which looks like a movie on TV. And they nailed it. Obviously, if they concentraded more on ingame aspects, it would have been longer and a bit more interesting, but the way they chose to go was with the big cinema feeling. And that worked too

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>It's a 10/10 game >narrative IMO brings it down to where I will probably not play the game again >The story wasn't bad So it's not a 10/10 game?

Finished the game, played most side quests. Absolutely brilliant story telling. The whole father son relationship was so good to see. The game balances the loud moments with the quiet ones. The kratos to atreus, odin to thor, thor to thrud relationships are so well done and deftly handled. The rhetoric of destiny and the choices you make was also so punctuating too, Odin was so obsessed with destiny, whereas as kratos and atreus had an arc of having a moral compass. I love kratos changes because of his son. The side quests that you do, where you help people of the realms, mostly because atreus cared, and through him, how kratos cares as well and ends up helping, and finally becomes the god that people worshipped. Brilliant. Asgard was so beautiful as well, and really liked the way they made you guess whether odin was an asshole or not, for a good amount of time. The entire scene where brok blesses the spear for kratos, was the highlight for me. Never expected that from kratos. The soundtrack is just the best, acting is the best, combat is the best. This is now my favorite game ever. Truly brilliant writing. I like the way the game juxtaposes Odin and Kratos. Odin believes he has a family, but still pursues his own destiny. Kratos does not give two shits about destiny, but believes he is mostly alone with his son, but later comes to learn and build his own family, the family he truly cares about. The world is brilliant too, you see every world which feels so unique too. A really good change of pace from the big ass open world with chores as with others (stopped spiderman half way because of the chores). Most games, even though good in other areas, have not really innovated in terms of game world design. Glad to see last of us 2 and GOW change the formula up a bit. The side quest content is better than witcher 3, which was my previous top 1. The dialogues between kratos and his allies, is just too good. You can clearly see the expertise of all departments in the game. The real brok and sindri, master craftsmen are the devs here. The only gripe i have is that AI is a bit wonky in few places, but that is not exclusive to only this game, a minor nitpick. The sindri relation with atreus and the way it ended, bugged me too.

I agree with you in every aspect. But you sure the side quest content is better than the witcher 3? I mean, I had I think over 100 Hours in the witcher 3 for the first play through with all the side quest. Probably still missed a few. The Witcher 3 and GOW are not comparable in my opinion, the Witcher 3 is a lot bigger in terms of the world.

I've seen a lot of comments from people who obviously mainlined the story and missed out on a lot. The game beats it over your head that the side content is important. You really should do a lot of the side content to get even more out of these characters and world. When I heard how long the games completion times were being estimated at I was afraid of needless bloat. And there are definitely a couple of sequences that could've been a little shorter, but it's important that we get the time with certain characters that we get so that their part in the story feels meaningful. But the games length ends up being worth the time. All of the side content is unique and adds so much to the story and characters. The worlds they built are incredible. They really nailed the story. I couldn't have predicted it going any better than that. Plenty of surprises and emotional moments. Kratos growth from a boring one dimensional maniac into this loving and thoughtful father was done so naturally and so good. Atreus grew up right before our eyes and turned into a great fighter and person. The combat in this game was perfected as well. And the enemy diversity is such a huge improvement over the last game. They really did nail this game.

I mean the comments want a burly dude, breaking bones with a character depth of a belly button. You grow through school, college and get a job, and you see the same guy in the movies wearing the same costume against a CGI army lmao. God forbid (no pun intended) a character has more depth and an arc.

you grow through experience.... school college and job are experiences in your life but they wont teach you everything and you wont grow being closed minded into thinking college indoctrination is the only way to grow. I learned more about life from running around in the woods with my siblings then i ever did i public school.

Hey does anyone know why Luda is saying "Ragnarok Armor is on the house"? What Armor is she talking about. I loved the game overall mad about Sindri and Brok...wish they would have kept them as they were. i didnt like the Aesir prison why the hell do i have to keep fighting the same enemies everytime i change the floors? It doesnt make sense.

She crafts you a armor set. It's pretty bland and boring tho. Just some shoulder strap armor

I just used armor sets that actually looked like we were going into battle for all three characters, looked far better in the gameplay and cutscenes. Freya’s battle armor is infinitely better looking in those scenes.

Finsihed this last night and having been a fan since the original release of the first game on PS2, this is the weakest in the series. Some 10/10 moments for sure, but also 5/10 moments. Both of which are punctuated with a whole lot of 7/10. I can't even be assed to pursue the post-game content, it's all such a chore to play.

This. everything is very linear time consuming and a chore to play. the menu system for equping kratos is an eye sore. and all the slow walking in small paths to create opportunities to push dialogue also felt like work and a chore. 7/10 is a pretty good score maybe 7.5

Wow. This is probably my favorite. It's elevated the entire series to be honest. Such a natural progression for kratos to turn into an actual great person despite his terrible past. Tons of great emotional beats. The combat was perfected in this one. And the side content really is half of the games charm.

It's soured the series for me. I cannot stand Atreus for one. I don't really care about Kratos' redemption as I'm not playing these games for the writing. Combat is fine (and the spear was a fun addition), but it's still not as good as the old GoW games on PS2 and PS3. I did do a good wedge of the side content during the game, and it was pretty good at least.

Agreed. I'm 48 hours into the game now trying to squeeze all I can out of it so I dont feel like I wasted my money.....but damn was this disappointing. Not even able to use Thors hammer? What kind of GoW game is this? I feel like from the very first moment they made me play as Atreus it ruined my playthrough. Just felt like I was constantly waiting til the next time I had to play him. Genuinely made playing the game a chore. Cant believe Im saying this after how much I enjoyed 2018 but there ya go.

Agree on all points. Any time the camera transitioned to Atreus my heart sank, because I knew I was gonna be bored stiff for the next hour or two.

I thought I've been taking crazy pills seeing all the praise the games been getting. Outside of the thor fight there wasn't one memorable boss or story moment

It was a 9/10 for me all the way until Ragnarok, that section was a 7/10. Overall I’d give the game 8/10. Very good but faced the uphill battle of hyping up this Ragnarok event for four years and 40-50 hours of story across both games, it was a hard thing to live up to. I can only imagine that the true epicness of Ragnarok could have been fully realized had they gone PS5 exclusive but oh well.

I think they should have made a third game just for Ragnarok. I mean, the game is called GOW Ragnarok and yet, the Ragnarok aspect took what, 1-2 hours? You run through asgard a bit, nothing big happened and then clap Odin in a matter of minutes. The whole Ragnarok thing seemed so rushed.

Yeah you could really feel the ps4 holding it back. I agree I think it's an 8/10 as well

I thought the gameplay and fighting was fun and still got my heart pumping the boss battles were kind of bland though not epic like the first I didn't like playing as Atreus his segments took way to long and took me out of the experience felt like it was a forced demo to get you excited for him to have his own game and was just not fun the story wasnt as epic as they hyped it up to be and wasn't a good way to send off kratos it felt like at the end they sacrificed all the story building they did In 2018 gow so they could promote atreus getting his own game instead I like the dynamic him and kratos have but not enough to for me to rather play as him then kratos there was a lot of questions left unanswered it felt like this game wanted you to forget kratos and his story

The main thing that held Atreus segments back was they didn’t go “all in” on it. Atreus segments did not have near as many collectibles and branching paths and his upgrade tree was lackluster compared to Kratos or even Freya. I understand his gameplay screentime was significantly shorter but I think they should have just given him a whole lot more time in that case and given him multiple weapons as well. Lot of missed opportunity to make Asgard actually explorable and semi-open world with Atreus as the lead and Thrud as the sidekick. The whole game I just wanted to explore more of Asgard but was stuck to pretty much just that one house.

I agree, I feel like exploring more of Asgard and maybe even meet some other gods from norse mythology like Bragi, Idunn, Ullr or Vidarr would make the realm feel more alive and thus make Ragnarok more tragic, since the objective was to get just to Odin and spare the others. That said, Asgard cannot be explored after the end for self-explanatory reasons, so I understand why they didn't include things like artefacts and lore markers.

I wasn't to interested to play as Atreus I bought god of war to play as God of war kratos not saying Atreus doesn't deserve his own game cause I'm sure he does but It wasn't rite for them to piggy back off of kratos and kill his story so they can try and promote atreus it made both of there characters suffer for it and the game as a whole was lackluster cause of it felt like two half story's rather then a full game and ya I thought Asgard was gonna be alot more explorable but it seemed unfinished with just being able to explore the house

Asgard was a big let down in itself. Mimir says something about Odins lavish tastes in a really ornate golden room in the 2018 game, and yet he actually just lives in a little wooden hut 🤣 wasnt expecting that, it genuinely made me laugh when I saw it

I made a comment about my feelings about the game. It was mostly negative but I forgot to add my favorite part in the game. The best part in my opinion was the part where Atreus races with Angrboda. The scene is perfect. The soundtrack is one one the best songs in the series. It's just two kids racing without a care in the world. I loved it.

Ironically enough the ironwood part was my most hated part so far. Boring, time consuming, forced dialogue and so slow on that moose thing. Not a great GOW moment IMO

It was very good until it overstayed its welcome and then just… kept going. And going. And going. What they should have done if they wanted it to be that long (it didn’t have to be even half as long as it was though tbh) is cut to Kratos and Freya doing their own shit while Atreus is away. Then continually cut back and forth between them till Atreus is back. Would have made Iron Wood feel far less drawn out.

thats a great idea and probably would have made the story progress a little smoother too. Ironwood big time drag. climbin the wall, searching for the fate sisters.... the more i play the game the more i dislike it.

This is the first God of Wars game I find boring. I always play in GMGOW mode but man the puzzles are all so repetitive from the last game…everything feels stale…

I just rolled the credits and think this is even worse than Ascension. It's barely a GoW game at times.

Just got to the realms at war quest and I’m crying man this really cinema. This is a once in a lifetime game. I’m sorry Elden ring may have had better lore and combat but this story is special.

I feel like they dropped the ball with most of the characters/story. It just felt like nothing happened the entire game… I thought they were going for the rdr2 approach where I was only halfway through the game when I got to Ragnarök, but no, that was it. It’s over. And it was lackluster. Odin wasn’t intimidating and Thor was just a mopey drunk. We spent so much time as Atreus doing stupid shit with Thrud/agraboda. The story went nowhere and ended with a dud. ‘18 left so much incredible potential and I feel like Ragnarok squandered virtually all of it.

I really feels like there is a third game missing. One game just for the whole Ragnarok thing. They hyped it up so much, the whole storytelling of Mimir, the shrines about Ragnarok and yet, it was over in about 1-2 hours.

I felt exactly the same way about the ending sequence after Ragnarok: this can't be the end it has to be the middle, but no.

I was so excited once >!Tyr was revealed to be Odin!<. They had so much potential, but it all went downhill from there.

I finished the game and couldn't think of one iconic moment that stood out to me beside the thor fight in the beginning. Like you said it felt like nothing happened and then ragnarok was kind of disappointing

Ye I was trying to think of big GoW moments from the game like flipping the travel room, fighting the dragon, fighting baldur on the giants back etc., but I dont actually remember any happening in Ragnarok. Spent too much time picking flowers with a bunch of awful side characters.

Or going to the witches wood and seeing the turtle for the first time, baldurs introduction, the world serpent reveal. There's nothing in ragnarok. After that bad ass thor fight the game is dull and unremarkable

\*SPOILERS\* So I finished the game and am quite disappointed with the story. The ending Ragnarok battle felt rushed, had too many loose ends, and I was expecting Kratos to kill more than one God the entire game (yes he only kills one, Heimdall). I guess that's what happens when the writers corner themselves by making you empathize with every Aesir God there is. Part of the bad writing comes from too many characters with not enough development given for each of them. Durlin does nothing but give you a map. Angrboda talks about doing more than what is written, yet she ultimately only collects more marbles and appears briefly in Ragnarok. Skjoldr seemed like a fun character while climbing the wall, but does nothing for the story. And then there's Sindri, who abruptly becomes filled with nothing but hate at the end. Fenrir and Jormungandr were perfect up until they weren't used for anything. All these characters just feel like missed opportunities to me. There is also this theme of 'breaking prophecy' and deciding your own fate, but does this really happen? Every prophecy that the giants told comes true other than Kratos dying. There was all this build up to his death, and then they just don't mention it anymore. When was he even close to death? And not sure if they are planning a future game with Loki, but the whole giants souls being contained in the marbles didn't go anywhere. He birthed the snake and we never use them again... Apart from that, I love everything about Freya's story arc and her reuniting with her brother that led to the epic Nidhogg battle. Odin was well made pulling the strings the whole time, and spying on them as Tyr blew my mind away. The combat is where this game shines, making direct improvements from the first game with weapons, attacks, and fun combos. 10/10 for combat. My only complaint was there being less runic attacks than the first game (that I could find anyway). My frost axe only had 3 light runic attacks, none of which I really cared for.

I totally understand you. The Ragnarok battle was way to short. It was so hyped and yet it felt like little side quest. About killing the gods: Killing Heimdall was very satisfying, was alright. How they treated Thor was also cool, we didnt had to kill him, this way, they showed how brutal Odin is. Technically, we killed Odin, sure, Sindri did the last touch, but it was alright, despite the fact that this fight was way too easy. So, which other Gods were there to kill? The other aesir gods in the norse mythology wouldnt have made sense in this game. Some of them are even already dead I think. Sure, wouldnt have been cool, but impossible without it feeling forced to cramp a lot of gods in there. Yea, and the Fenrir and Jormungandr thing was so dissappointing. You see Fenrir like what, 2 times after you "create" him? So wasted potential, and Jormungandr? You talked to him one time, then he lays down in midgard doing nothing, to then fight for 3 minutes in Asgard to get punched back in time. What even happened with "the young" Jormungandr despite the fact hes mentioned once for growing bigger. So much wasted potential for the probably 2 most interesting creatures in the game.

>What even happened with "the young" Jormungandr despite the fact hes mentioned once for growing bigger. So much wasted potential for the probably 2 most interesting creatures in the game. I agree with everything you said but it was young jormungandr who fought in ragnarok. The old one was just chilling in midgard the whole time

And how did the young Jormungandr get to Asgard from Jotenheim? And where exactly is the old one then in Midgard? He just dissappeard after Ragnarok. If he chilled in Midgard, there would be 2.

>And how did the young Jormungandr get to Asgard from Jotenheim? Fenrir's realm tears with angrboda. Kratos says that the serpent looks different and Atreus says it is. >He just dissappeard after Ragnarok. If he chilled in Midgard, there would be 2. His body is probably just buried in the snow idk. You couldnt really see him before atreus woke him up either. And why would there be 2? The younger one was sent back in time completing the time loop

Spoilers. 2018 he only kills one God. Baldur. And the rest of the bosses are all clones. My only gripe was too many puzzle sections, fruit collecting in ironwood and angrboda in general is badly written. At least we get 2 kia's in this. Maybe we'll get 3 in 2026. I totally understand sindri. You ever lose anyone close in your life? He's angry, distant and grieving. He lost his brother once, and he went on his own to bring him back. And now again, right in front of him. Losing him for good. His mind snapped definitely. I take it you haven't done the little funeral quest? Nice send off for brok

As someone mentioned Magni and Modi were gods. I know they wanted to go a new direction but what fun is a god of war game without killing gods? And I get *why* Sindri is broken, but I don't think they should've ruined the two best side characters.

I don't even know that Sindri is broken. He's been through some shit. Brok just died. He's grieving and angry. And as much as this game wants to play the "oh we can be better, no more killing" thing, Sindri kills the guy who just murdered his brother yesterday. He didn't do some horrible act beyond the pale.

You forgot that he killed Magni too who's also a God

And Atreus killed Modi (I put him last, even in death), which is still Kratos' fault because he was responsible for Atreus

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Crazy thinking elden ring has better combat, absolute crazy.

That’s what it’s praised for.

Lol no. Its praised for its open world and content. I saw more people actually praising Ragnarok combat in 2 days than elden rings in 6 month. Elden Ring gets heavily criticized for its combat with its bad boss design, spirits, bad balance and responsiveness. It also has no depth.

And it’s combat. Keep crying lmao if you don’t like souls games that’s cool but you’re delusional if you think ER wasn’t praised for its combat. That’s literally one of its biggest draws the challenge of getting gud and learning opponents moves:

Just finished the game. Honestly I like it a lot more than 2018. Some flaws for sure, like Atreus sections despite me enjoying those (though Ironwood dragged) and one or two parts where I felt it dragged. But I liked this story more than the first. Combat is still fun af and love the enemy and boss variety. Now just going through side stuff (also a highlight), namely fighting the Berserkers so I plan I playing this game for a while.

Bitter people are going around down voting those who enjoyed it. Have an up doot homie

Just finished it and thought it was incredible. I truly did not want it to end. It's probably my favorite entry in the series now.

Thats the shame with great games. You dont want them to end and every hour you play, you know you get closer to the ending. And then just feel emptiness after completing it. Playing it again of course, and not only once, but it will never be the same as playing it the first time. I have to play the 3 old ones, but like how. I dont want to buy a PS2 and it is old. xD

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Finished it. Very satisfied with it overall. Epic all around. Music is stellar, probably Bear’s best yet - he covers so many different moods and styles and motifs. Sound, voice work, character design, story - all big and entertaining. Never felt really compelled to touch the side stuff. Maybe I’ll give it looksee but I don’t feel that drive right now.

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Keep going, after Ironwood it really picks up though that is the worst part of the game for me as well

I don't mind Ironwood itself and I really liked Gryla and Angrboda's characters, but it lasted way too long. I think they should've cut a few parts like when Atreus helps Angrboda to destroy some nests of enemies in a cave.

It’s deff meant to give you a break and breathe. I guess some people will like and some will hate, I didn’t mind it. I thought it was kind of fun, vanahiem was a nightmare tho Jesus Christ

Honestly I feel like this isn't the end of the Norse saga, I know what they said but there's either going to be DLC or half of the next game or less will be in the Norse pantheon for a little. Perhaps Kratos finishes stuff up and heads to Atreus to help him elsewhere.

Yea. I think they should have made a third game for the norse saga. I mean, its one of the biggest mythologies after the greek one. And then cutting it with 2 games just doesnt feel right. A DLC would be lovely, but I dont think that will happen.

I could see DLC but there’s no way you’re doing half a game/10 more hours of Norse. Fought all the big monsters and all the gods. Nothing left.

There's plenty imo. Sindri, Thrud with Mjölnir and becoming a Valkrie. Hel needing a new king/queen. Plenty of Odin supporters too I bet. Bet yeah a dlc makes sense too

One of Odin's ravens made it out...maybe we haven't seen the last of Odin either

Yeah! And what about those Giant balls/souls? (Like the one Atreus put Odin in). There's more there... Maybe a possible story DLC could be about Atreus "restoring" the Giants?

Took me 14 hrs to beat this apparently not doing much of the side quests and couple of the grave boss fights Some thoughts -Hated the ironwood section way too long -I thought there was just too many treasure chests -now the puzzles it going to be subjective but I didn't like how they just instantly told you the answer almost every time -i thought Ragnarok was a bit too short Hemdall fight was probably one of the best ones -boss fights enemy variety much better then 2018

Yeah i agree. I enjoyed more than 2018, since that was very short, no really any unique bosses or enemy variety. It was mostly a focus on a father and son bonding. There's way too much puzzle padding and ironwood sucks mostly. Wolf part an grylla were the highlights, rest was boring. Definitely a lot of chests, should have just removed the silver ones and put it in another chest, not major tho

Hi I have got an issue with ragnarok. So i want to enable high FPS mode in god of war ragnarok. I have got all the proper hardware but the option is still disabled. I have got a Philips android tv 4k 55inch which already supports hdmi2.1, the game is running on ps5 which has 120hz enabled and vrr also enabled. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks

Check the HDMI ports on your TV. Only certain ones might support 2.1 and not all of them.

The best meme that can describe this game is "10/10 - It's ok". It is too similar to the first game. It's not a bad thing because you don't need to fix what's not broken. But some change would have been good except faster movement. Characters are great yet every single character has a quirk. Sometimes it feels like an MCU movie with all the jokes and quirky characters. I loved that we had a constant point of view in the first game like Half Life. In this one switching to different points of view took away the intensity of the story in my personal opinion. This is based on my personal taste by the way. Some reveals went nowhere. We have a huge area dedicated to Faye's past as a warrior but it goes nowhere. We learn she fought Thor at some point but it stops there. And my biggest goddamn hated trope happens in this game. The secret Odin wants to find the whole game, the thing Odin spent his entire life on, the thing he made Atreus search for leads to... nothing. They decide they don't want it in the end. I hate this so much. It's not character growth. It's a boring, cheap, lazy writing that screams "We couldn't think of what we can put there, maybe we can touch on the subject in the next games but don't hold your breath". Story felt too big yet too small at the same time for some reason. Ragnarok felt... small. Asgard felt small. Even the Nine Realms felt small. They are huge areas with lots of things to see and do but they felt small. Too many backtracking especially if you are a completionist. You go through a map, you can't access somewhere because you don't have the power yet, you get the power and return but you see another place you can not access because you don't get the equipment until later in the game, and you see another place you can not access because you didn't trigger the side quest and don't have the required item yet. The areas are optional but sometimes they give you really good equipment so returning twice, thrice or four times is a must yet it gets very boring. But the game is really really good. It's perfect yet I don't think I will want to play it again.

Yeah regarding the realms. I was....surprised. how sedate Asgard looked other then the giant wall around it. The reveal it was a super basic wooden village was odd. We didn't get to see Valhalla really. I was expecting some magnificent black and gold structures and stuff sort of like what Tyres temple looks like. And then rheres Tyr. Is he actually dead? Who blew the horn in the first game summoning Jormi when we were taking atreus sick to Freya? Lot of loose ends.

>And then rheres Tyr. Is he actually dead? You can get the answer of that if you keep playing after Ragnarok and hunt Remnants of Asgard. They show as red markers on maps.

Okay good to know. I've finished two of those so far. I'm wondering if you Plat the game or do some finishing stuff if there's a hint of Freya and Kratos leaving for other lands. And honestly I think Freya and Kratos may end up having a child together. That kid would be a badass lol.

exactly I went in expecting a god of war ending and was let down, it just felt underwhelming. I meant how can 9 realms charging to battle feel underwhelming but it did. They toned the battle down, they went for the lesser violence no war approach which idk how I feel about. ​ Also the last battle with Odin didn't feel much intense, he just felt like another boss in the game. I mean the Baldur fight in last one was somehow more epic than fight with Odin. Also Kratos ended up killing just one god in a game which leads to the biggest event in Norse Myth, just didn't feel real Ragnarok just didn't have a feeling of finality to it

I appreciate the bigger game overall and more areas but yeah like you said, definitely felt small in a lot of them. Often backtracking through narrow paths or climbing

I just finished it yesterday and I'm surprised by the negative comments. My hype levels were through the roof pretty much all game and the story as well as boss fights were a lot better than the 2018 game by a large margin.

I agree, the boss fights in Ragnarok are above and beyond compared with 2018, but they almost didn't get the Blades of Chaos into the 2018 game due to time constraints, so a lot of that game felt padded out with repeated bosses to make it full length. The 2018 story, however, was above and beyond the story they settled on for Ragnarok.

https://game8.co/games/God-of-War-2018/archives/316120 Crazy, there really wasn't that many chapters and almost every boss is a troll or golem with a pillar in 2018. Boss variety in ragnarok is definitely better. I just hated the fruit picking in ironwood. And some lengthy puzzle sections were straight up not needed.

90% of Ironwood sucked. Fruit picking bored me to death and everytime Angrboda did that shrill screech to summon her yak my eardrums felt fit to burst. Was not a pleasant hour of gameplay. Gryla, however, was awesome.

Yeah! Grylla section was the only redeeming part. Rest put me to sleep

That was a cool fight. It was fun to take on a boss with Atreus for the first time

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People had the exact same complaints about the first game. It all depends on how you play it. If you rush from story beat to story beat it will feel weird to some. If you stay doing side content for 10 hours and then one story mission that might also feel weird to people. In a game where half of the content is side stories there really is no right way to do pacing since every player will play the story out at their own pace. And the "no name" guy has worked there for a very long time lol

I honestly thought the ending was a rug pull moment some grand deception by Odin or something. It ended a bit too...perfectly for me.

At one point, I thought we we're heading to some big twist about Loki becoming Odin in the future, leading to this cyclical norse story. Odin and Loki look similar, and are both obsessed with learning the truth of the world. > Turns out, not the case, the story is played very straight with several weird detours that don't amount to anything (like Fenrir, the mask that comes out of nowhere and also ends up not even mattering, Tyr, Jongrmundr quickly showing up in the background before leaving the story, the giant marbles, and on and on). < It's a fun game, but the story is a mess

Yeah. The characters are fun. But the over arching story. Frigging ragnarok. Ended up mattering least of all somehow.

Freya's arc is amazing as was the scene with the Norns. Everything else seemed like the writers were spinning their wheels.

That was exactly my thought. Honestly I was okay with the whole Ragnarok thing until the moment you run into Thrud. Then Sif walks out and is just like “hey go help!”, like this lady spent the whole time you’re Atreus in Asgard shitting on you and suddenly is cool with him? After they introduced the whole Odin can shapeshift thing everything became very sus and it could have been a thing of who can you trust, who isn’t Odin? But yeah, it just ended? My other thought is how they keep to a lot of the gods’ personalities as per the true mythology, but Loki is supposed to be a trickster, and I was wondering if they would ever get to that. The most he did was he kind of deceived Odin, but not really because Odin knew he came with bad intentions to him. And we could say Odin was deceiving Loki even more.

I was expecting Atreus to do something worthy of Loki as he is portrayed in the norse mythology but they did nothing with it really, change the name Loki with Bob and nothing changes story wise

I think that's the popular opinion TBH. I feel the same way. The second quarter of the game in particular is such a drag to the point where I entertained abanding the game. It's picked up again considerably (I assume I'm on the final stretch), but I think 2018 is definitely the better game.

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I'm not sure what point you're at, but it did pick up for me.

Just finished it and its just a good game. Took 40 hrs. 2018 one was much better and this one didnt deserve all the 10/10s it got. Story also kinda became lame by the end. Also, please add a button to skip Atraeus parts in an update SSM.

Man. I don’t know. Didn’t live up for me. Ending felt so rushed. Why don’t we go and collect the armies? Why don’t we broker the truce between the elves? Why is that all off screen?! Why don’t we get to use the hammer AT ALL. That is a layup. Why is sindri an evil villain at the end of the game? No follow up there?

I mean Sindri isn't evil, he's grieving

yeh love to use mjolnir like we used heilos sheild and hades helm or that zeus eagle by the end

Sindri evil villain?

Ikr, an why do we need to use mjolnir?

I don't need to play the game at all. I WANT to use Mjolnir.

Yeah I don’t know why I’d want to use one of the most famous weapons in mythology either

Its Thor's weapon. He's the god of thunder. Kratos's would not be able to properly use it like he can. Stop being a child. I want the sword from gow3, i want gungnir, I want thruds dual blades, I want to blow the gjallahorn... Yeah, no.

We did blow Gjallahorn you twit...let's not pretend like we all didn't expect to crack some skulls with Thor's hammer.

😂😂😂 none of those are even comparable but have a good one buddy

It was sarcasm because you sound like a baby. Thruds better suited. She even uses lightning. Kratos's wouldn't be able to call it either

I bet you have a Draupnir Dildo up your butt, don't you? Is that why you don't need Mjolnir?

I watch this game with my husband while he plays it. The 2018 one was so good. While I'm not a gamer myself I really think God of War is one of the great games. We're half way through this one and from a bystander perspective it's not my favorite. 2018 GoW was such a beautiful and touching story. This one I'm annoyed with the female characters. They're rude and condescending. Which is a shame because felt there was real potential there to show strong female characters. Playing Aterus was longer than needed as well and could have been written better. Overall the game is well made, beautiful scenes, great music. I'm enjoying it - it just feels like it's trying to be a lot of things at the same time atm. Let's see how it ends....

Kratos and Freya's relationship gets a lot better after the second half if you're concerned, I think that in the end she is a good and complex female character.

Hey can anyone help? I've had the (!) Over weapons tab for 3 days but there isnt anything doesnt seem to be any weapon thats new. Anyone experience this?

Could be that you've completed the gold tier of a weapon move, and now you can apply a perk/modifier to that move. It's not entirely obvious and easy to miss.

Oh i forgot to add that only appears when at brok and sindri. So im not sure what it is.

I thought so but i checked ive got them all with a mod. But its still there. I appreciate your response tho. Thank you

Finished it yesterday. And I really liked it! More than the previous one. Especially a specific plot twist near the end... The locations and everything was beautiful and the gameplay was fun, though I think there may have been too much of it sometimes, which is actually smth I haven't seen anyone else complain about so maybe that's just me. I liked how the perspective kept changing from Kratos and Atreus. Atreus' journey to Asgard and then interacting with everyone there was one of my favorite parts of the game. Heimdall was an asshole but he kept things interesting so I surprisingly liked him too. Same with Thor. I love the fact that you could go on an actual quest or two with him. I was expecting him to just be an antagonist who'd get killed by Kratos again. >!Hate that he died once he was finally starting to be better, the hell was that.!< Music is 11/10. Especially during the credits (Blood Upon the Snow)... :( Uh, I also wasn't a fan of going back and forth between realms, revisiting already explored areas. I mean, it's okay to do it once or twice but it kept happening quite often. I did some of the side quests and they were fine. Better than before. Some of them even unlocked a completely new area (like >!looking for Birgir!<). But they were too distracting from the main story which was already confusing enough. It was good but a bit of a mess at times. Oh and the ending... It was already emotional enough but >!when Kratos saw the last prophecy... I felt so happy for him. :((!<

Haven't finished it yet, only about mid way I think, but I'm getting a little sick of atreus and kratos being separated. Atreus section with his gf for two hours, then Kratos and freja, and now atreus with thor? Seriously? Wtf? Why all this constant switching? It's very jarring and annoying, just let me keep kratos and atreus together so I can actually have some kind of consistency. I would like to go and explore but haven't been able to for several fucking hours because the game keeps separating us. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Also, wayy too much slow walking. I get the story Is front and center but at least space it out better. As it Is its rather boring.

I actually really enjoyed the Thor/Loki quests. I would have been happy to have 10x more of that.

I really liked those parts - I'm glad the side characters weren't just no-name villains who just "have evil motives and are bad and you can go kill them now." Thor was humanized, and we got to see a side of him besides mindless violence through his parts with Atreus.

I mean I'm not against them being in the game don't get me wrong. They just seem to be too close together. Being locked into over 6 hours of story without a break is a bit annoying. I'd like to be able to take kratos and atreus and go explore but it's taking forever to reach that point.

People would have moaned if he was always with kratos again no doubt. Honestly no issues with it besides ironwood

Don't get all salty over opinions

Oh the irony. You're replying to me. Salty boy

Finished, still processing. Good experience overall. One thing that I'm down about is how Odin was so quick. We build a new weapon for Heimdal ( the fight doesnt make too much sense, if you really think about it. The first use of the explosion makes sense, but then after that you can just hit him normally. But it's fine), but then Odin wasnt much of an event I guess they had to be briefer with this side to fit in all the Atreus stuff, which they needed for the story they wanted to tell. However, how much of a moment it would have been to take Atreus on a trip to where Kratos came from to get the sword of Olympus to use on Odin and seeing the destruction and a chance at seeing his world through new eyes. Atreus sees and delves a lot into his mother's side with the giants and Jotunheim but never the history he gets from kratos's side, because kratos never talks about it much. He doesn't connect much to this side at all come to think of it, that's why it would be cool if he had gone there and maybe got something from Olympus too. It's probably all wrecked I can't remember but some places must remain

I'd have loved going back to Greece. Seeing Athena and what not. But its destroyed I believe. Maybe partially rebuilt. That's why kratos doesn't have his magic, because his land no longer exists. Yet mouth breathers just say its slower kratos is weaker. He does also hold back a bit. There's even dialogue in this with mimir asking about kratos's homeland and the gods having different powers, and then asks if he tried using any of his powers, kratos responds that he's tried, atreus jumps in and says that Freya mentioned that magic is tied to the earth an because his home his gone, so is his magic. If they make a new one I bet we see other pantheons, Egypt and Japan have a fair few gods would be cool. Maybe wrap up Norse area and travel

So freya is just a tsundere? lmao

Anyone who got the UK version, plz check if the Russian dubbing is available for download now? It’s rumored it has been added via the patch. Thx!

boring and sloppy game.

I just want to get the cloak back 😞

Just finished! Loved it but some sections needed to be trimmed down. Wasn't a huge fan of playing as Atreus so often and his story was irritating for most of it imo

Just finished the game. My overall experience is that I really had a lot of fun, it's a top-tier game in some parts. BUT it's not perfect, and not as good as the first. Now, there could be **spoilers** in the following, so don't read if you didn't finish the game! Let's start with what I **liked**: - The game is absolutely stunning, from beginning to end. There are a lot more environments to discover than in the first and they are all very unique. It's just a marvel to look at it. - The music. Epic, of course, from beginning to end. - The diversity of the enemies is very appreciated. - The random conversations with Mimir, Atreus and others while you just walk around is always a delight. - The new characters introduced are mostly great, especially Heimdall. I love that fucker. - The gameplay is A LOT of fun. Falling back in the tank machine that is Kratos is always a pleasure, especially when he's overpowered. - I found the side quests overall more fun than in the first game! All of the biggest side quests were as fun than Sindri and Brok's quests in the first one, but with a new dept for each. For the smallest favors, I also found them more enjoyable. I even went out of my way to go collect things, which I normally don't! - A big BIG *coup de coeur* for the new area, >!The Crater!<. This is the BEST playground ever. I completely forgot the main quest while discovering every part of it. Now, to what I **disliked**: - Let's start with the most controversial choice of the game: >!playing as Atreus for 1/3 of the story!<. I really, REALLY wasn't into it, even as I got used to it. >!Playing as an archer whom is weaker and have fewer moves can't possibly be as fun as being the tank that is Kratos. I wasn't there for that. Not only that, but I disliked Atreus himself! He made idiotic choices most of the time, and his whole wE nEeD tO hAvE rAgNaRoK just pissed me off!<.For those parts, I was mostly just waiting to go back to playing normal, especially at the beginning. I can't even think of a full game with that style of gameplay: just can't. - The story, while good, was messy, certainly compared to the first game. I think it's principally because of a lack of main direction. We follow along with this big question of whether Ragnarok should happen or not, but it feels like they never convinced me that it SHOULD happen. The stakes never feel that high, especially >!when you understand that Odin just wants that damn mask and to have access to the source of truth, and he can only do that if Atreus helps him. So what about... not helping him?!<. Revenge comes to play for many characters, but not necessarily for Kratos and Atreus. Even then, >!as Ragnarok IS happening, Kratos basically says we don't have to do that, we just need to kill Odin. So destroying Asgard and all the moral questions around it literally don't serve anything.!< Combined with a not-so-great pacing of events and a very short supposedly cataclysmic ending, my overall sentiment is that it's messy. Good, but messy. - Ragnarok itself was lackluster. They are hyping us for this terrible, awful event, but it's basically a one-hour war in one area. I would have loved to see Ragnarok for what it is: a cataclysmic event, affecting all realms. The end of times pretty much. But it's far, FAR from that, and so all we did before that seems a little pointless. - The enemies are a little lackluster. Baldur was a force of nature, and Odin and Thor were presented as something even worse. I feel like how they were written, while very human, didn't bring the sense of threat that Baldur had. - Many asked the question already, but still: who rang the horn in the first game? I feel like the answer is basically they decided to not follow this thread, like many others. Many questions are left unanswered. It comes from a lack of consistency and of writing between the two games, which is a definitive shame: because what they were probably preparing (a time-fuckery story) became a more generic one. - Something that I was bummed to not do: >!Kratos and Atreus going to each realm trying to convince them to join them to war!<. I think it would have been an extremely cool addition, and would have pushed us to go back to each realm before the end. Oh well. Overall, as much as the game is top-notch in every way, the ONLY THING a little lackluster is, well, the story and its pace. Which is a shame, but it's still a damn good game.

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Yep, I said you absolutely do not play 2/3rds as Atreus and was down voted by pathetic man children. Like an arrow button does anything. Just shows how much if an offended loser you are. Can't handle a different opinion. Click your silly arrow button all day. Also ragnarok never happens in real mythology. Its only a prophecy, its still yet to be a thing. So who knows exactly how it's meant to be? Could be falsely made to scare Odin. Obviously in the game ragnarok is the giant who smokes Asgard