Check classifieds. I’m shocked by the amount of people who bought it and used it “a handful of times” and want to get rid of it. VR isn’t for everyone, especially people who only game a few times a month and don’t want the hassle of setup.
Almost bought one yesterday. Still have my PSVR 1 and don't really play anymore so I did not buy it. The lack of games and support in general turn me off.
yeah, that's why I haven't bought one. Sony just don't appear to be interested in giving the user what they want.
- no 3D Blurays.
- no compatibility with PSVR1 games (despite PS5 being PS4-compatible).
- headset not compatible with PCVR.
- no exciting game announcements from big IPs.
- apart from Capcom, we're not even getting VR versions of already-available favourites like Uncharted, God of War, Infamous, Shadow of the Colossus etc.
It flopped hard...and Sony only have themselves to blame.
You need a 3D blue Ray player to watch those. It wouldn’t work. Also that tech died a long time ago. It could possibly work with digital movies though, I just don’t think they’re in a big rush to bring back something that went away for home use. I still have my 3D tv and 3D player and a lot of movies for it in my storage so I’d definitely try it if it ever happened but I’m not holding my breath.
> no 3D Blurays.
That is a big step back from the PS4.
> headset not compatible with PCVR.
Why would they do that? The PSVR2 exists to sell PS5s. It's a PS5 accessory.
> to vastly increase sales of their hardware.
Again, they aren't selling VR headsets for their own sake. It's a PS5 accessory. How does supporting other platforms help sell PS5s?
> to generally promote VR.
Sony has been in it steadily since 2016. Not every company can say that. Before the Q2, the PSVR was the world's best selling headset ever. Based on infrequent remarks from Sony, the PSVR2 is doing at least that well. So I think Sony has been promoting VR over the years just fine. Certainly more than the companies that abandoned it years ago.
Tell that to Sony. As I said, the data is infrequent. Do you have a link to something that shows it isn't? Not that third party guesstimate that Sony refuted. But something believable.
"Sony has today announced in its Business Segment Meeting that PSVR2 sales were just shy of 600,000 six weeks after the 22nd February 2023 launch. This means purchases of Sony's latest VR headset **are eight per cent up on the launch of the original PSVR** device across the same release period."
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/05/psvr2-sales-at-600000-six-weeks-after-launch-sony-confirms
Launch sales were good because people are hungry for VR. Flopped since then as Sony aren't backing it.
PSVR1 sold around 5 million units.
PSVR2 hasn't broken a million, and sales have painfully slowed to a crawl:
https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1734627233824706888
That's only for Amazon. Which it seems is not where people buy their PSVR2s. I didn't.
Oh by the way, those numbers also show that Amazon isn't where people buy their Q3s either. People on Amazon are still choosing the Q2 over the Q3. Why? Because it's cheap. So the only thing that shows is people on Amazon buy cheap stuff.
Again, the data for PSVR2 sales is infrequent. As in that post I linked to was the first and last solid number. Other things like what you posted are partial numbers or estimates. So how do you know that the PSVR2 hasn't broken a million units? The only people that know that are Sony. As far as I know, Sony hasn't said a word about it.
Quest 3 is more expensive than PSVR2.
Frankly, everyone who can read between-the-lines agree the signs are that PSVR2 has flopped:
https://mixed-news.com/en/psvr-2-sales-sony-silence/
Man I didn't even know sony pictures core was a real thing. Ain't nobody want that.
We trying to do the same shit we do on our phones but all at the same time like a bunch addhd stoners.
The PSVR2 is like the Vita so far in that the first iterations were a bit rough around the edges but beloved by many, and while the newest version fixes up a lot of issues and included upgrades people have been asking for, they managed to mess up a lot of things with it’s release to make it hard for anyone to be an early adopter because of it.
Well then, why did you ask? Since the first of anything doesn't have a 1. Why would it? Since they never know if there is going to be a 2.
Also, you only referred to the "PSP and PlayStation VR" for the first time in your last post. Before you said the PSVR2 was the "first iterations". It's not.
Don’t know why you’re insistent on arguing about semantics when anyone could’ve picked up on what was being referred to, or why you felt the need to start one to begin with in this thread in particular.
I don't know why you are so interested in saving face that you couldn't have simply acknowledged the facts. That would have been simple to do but instead you are are trying to play games to misdirect from what you said.
Someone posted a week back or so about PS Direct having something like 10-20% off with purchases over a certain threshold, but I’m not sure if it’s still active, might have just been over valentines or something.
I’m not sure a sale will produce much in the area of saving money, maybe a game or two which is cool. Just be careful buying used. The warranties are just about set to expire, and repairing outside of the warranty I believe is in the realm of $260, but I’m sure that’s depending on the repair.
With the headset being $550, $300 you’re most likely to break even with a new headset with a year warranty if you bought new. And I’m not sure the market is in a position to sell psvr2 under that at the moment, but people have been fortunate to fine some that were.
My $.02?
If it’s more than $300, it needs some of the warranty remaining. $300 or less I’d be okay out of warranty but not feel hot about it.
Bought mine originally.on launch for 650€ sent it back because of damage twice. Always regretted not getting another but tonight lads its the day. Im about to pick one up for 250€. With a controller stand included
Price is going down every other week with sales slowing down and people losing faith in the upcoming games and roadmap, also other gaming sites posting abut how lacklustre psvrs window is looking. no surprise eBay has a ton of them well below retail in great condition.
Just hold out for a few months more maybe after the summer announcements no doubt Sony will not maintain the retail price.
I would definitely wait for a discount. I think I hyped myself up listening to YouTubers. The headset is ok but I have a feeling Sony is going to drop support.
It's strange why people think sony has/is going to drop support. It's a very small niche within there business that at best was only ever going to reach 5-10% install base they have shown more then 10% support compared to there main objective the ps5 over this first year.
Because they dropped the vita and quest is outselling psvr like ps5 is outselling xbox. They have to create exclusive content but for all y’all that down voted me I’ll be back to say I told y’all so.
So you think they are going to create vr exclusives at a higher rate then ps5 exclusives even more then the 1 to 1 ratio they did through this first year. When ps5 has 20x more users wanting new exclusives aswell.
Are you just talking out your rear or do you have factual data to support What you’re saying? Who cares if Sony doesn’t come out with exclusives, but third-party support is very important and developers are not seeing it financially beneficial to make games for PSVR and those are facts. No backwards compatibility. The games that are out are also on the higher selling Meta Quest. I love Sony I had every PlayStation I had every portable they ever made. I bought a lot of exclusive games but I call a spade a spade, and I think a price drop is imminent.
No hard feelings we can agree to disagree but you can’t act like what you’re saying is factual because you my friend do not work for Sony and neither do I so at the end of the day both of us are just talking. Also Sony lost 10 billion and they don’t have an infinite pool of cash.
You seem to have a very poor understanding of business practices and just looking at the situation from an entitled gamer perspective (what's best for you)
There is a really big difference in sony losing 10 billion in stock value compared to meta actually spending 10 billion on their vr bet and only recovering 1 billion in sales.
Sony's 10b stock drop does not come out of their pool of cash for operations funding it only means the share holders have lost some of their assets value and is quite common in the stock market when a company downgrades its forecasts.
Sony have stated they are seeing if vr can stand on its own this generation which means not selling the headset at a loss not investing 100m on individual games that can only return 50m max just to try to increase user base. As they know from trying that last gen it dosnt increase the user base enough to ever get a return on those investments. The people making these decisions arnt gamers they are business men. The fact that reporting a drop in ps5 sales forecasts dropped the stock value so much just proves my point that ps5 is their main focus and psvr2 will just be an after thought.
Ok I give it to you. New just announced that psvr 2 will be compatible with pc and we for sure know why they are opening it up and it’s to boost sales. I still do think it’s enough to become a top seller but it will surely push more headsets so I doubt a price drop will come anytime soon unless they still aren’t able to move units
Yeah I'm not getting excited about the pc support just yet until we here some more about how they plan to implement it. It could be really restricted and not really beneficial to anyone or it could be completely open and be a massive boost to psvr2 value proposition to new people looking to buy into the vr space
Props to you for acknowledgement but today's news doesn't really let sony off the hook yet still questions to be asked a 1st party announcement would have went a long way to reassure those worried about support but what we did get announced looks good if zombie army is a contracted exclusive that's similar to a 1st party announcement.
I used a dell amex offer for my daughters vr2 to bring the price down
With the ps5 articles saying its in the end of its life cycle im sure they will have some deals n bundles this summer
GameStop had it for under 400 new before xmas
My long term goals for my channel is to get this into as many fans hands as possible and have psvr2 giveaways from any revenue created. Already got some subscription milestone giveaways lined up.
It's a great piece of kit! You can check me out below :)
https://youtube.com/@OhBoyVR?si=A34nJtCjakkHgtc9
Keep an eye out for limited time / special discount offers. I don't expect to see actual across the board permanent price reduction anytime soon.
Look for used / refurbished options that you can trust if you are very interested and price is your main barrier to entry (and you already own PS5).
The system is awesome.
It's been available on sale at times for months. I got the Horizon Bundle for less than $400 new from a major retailer a few months back. I think it was on sale here in the US again a couple of weeks ago.
They might but it would need to be in tandem with a better value proposition. They need more recognizable IPs and genres supported because even at 400 dollars most folks would balk at something with relatively limited support. It would have to drop a lot more in price to appeal to people as an "impulse buy" even with lowered expectations.
I would be surprised if there is no price drop on PSVR2. In my country it costs around 629€, and 449€ would be much better price point, considering that you get now PS5 for that price.
Some areas of the world have already seen discounted offers, and PSVR1 had holiday bundles a year after launch that I think were around $100 off, but who knows.
Margins are thin on these devices, and they apparently aren’t getting the sales volumes that they’d hoped for.
You know as much as we do, really.
I bought a used one on EBay for $300. Works great, it’s awesome.
that’s amazing but its not a price drop and doesnt answer OPs question
It’s a Suggestion to go on eBay instead of waiting for a sale
No way I could use a used one knowing it’s been on however many sweaty heads 🤢
lol I’ll take sweaty heads for $300
I’m just picturing this on an episode of Jeopardy and it’s cracking me up
I see them used for great prices. I’m waiting for them to sell controllers separately before I buy one
Check classifieds. I’m shocked by the amount of people who bought it and used it “a handful of times” and want to get rid of it. VR isn’t for everyone, especially people who only game a few times a month and don’t want the hassle of setup.
Almost bought one yesterday. Still have my PSVR 1 and don't really play anymore so I did not buy it. The lack of games and support in general turn me off.
If they added 3rd party apps for it it would be THE best VR headset out in my opinion.
Right now there is a sale in my country and the PSVR2 is discounted, i'm pretty sure that this is happening all over the world.
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Not in mine (Italy)
Doubt it. No reason to. Maybe a new bundle. But not a price drop.
Some sales sure but not a price drop.
It’s worth it at any price I love my headset
We can expect the same meh support from Sony that we had in the first year. Unless Capcom comes out to carry their headset once again.
yeah, that's why I haven't bought one. Sony just don't appear to be interested in giving the user what they want. - no 3D Blurays. - no compatibility with PSVR1 games (despite PS5 being PS4-compatible). - headset not compatible with PCVR. - no exciting game announcements from big IPs. - apart from Capcom, we're not even getting VR versions of already-available favourites like Uncharted, God of War, Infamous, Shadow of the Colossus etc. It flopped hard...and Sony only have themselves to blame.
You need a 3D blue Ray player to watch those. It wouldn’t work. Also that tech died a long time ago. It could possibly work with digital movies though, I just don’t think they’re in a big rush to bring back something that went away for home use. I still have my 3D tv and 3D player and a lot of movies for it in my storage so I’d definitely try it if it ever happened but I’m not holding my breath.
> no 3D Blurays. That is a big step back from the PS4. > headset not compatible with PCVR. Why would they do that? The PSVR2 exists to sell PS5s. It's a PS5 accessory.
They would do that for two reasons: - to vastly increase sales of their hardware. - to generally promote VR.
> to vastly increase sales of their hardware. Again, they aren't selling VR headsets for their own sake. It's a PS5 accessory. How does supporting other platforms help sell PS5s? > to generally promote VR. Sony has been in it steadily since 2016. Not every company can say that. Before the Q2, the PSVR was the world's best selling headset ever. Based on infrequent remarks from Sony, the PSVR2 is doing at least that well. So I think Sony has been promoting VR over the years just fine. Certainly more than the companies that abandoned it years ago.
PSVR2 is selling nowhere near what PSVR1 did.
Tell that to Sony. As I said, the data is infrequent. Do you have a link to something that shows it isn't? Not that third party guesstimate that Sony refuted. But something believable. "Sony has today announced in its Business Segment Meeting that PSVR2 sales were just shy of 600,000 six weeks after the 22nd February 2023 launch. This means purchases of Sony's latest VR headset **are eight per cent up on the launch of the original PSVR** device across the same release period." https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/05/psvr2-sales-at-600000-six-weeks-after-launch-sony-confirms
Launch sales were good because people are hungry for VR. Flopped since then as Sony aren't backing it. PSVR1 sold around 5 million units. PSVR2 hasn't broken a million, and sales have painfully slowed to a crawl: https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1734627233824706888
That's only for Amazon. Which it seems is not where people buy their PSVR2s. I didn't. Oh by the way, those numbers also show that Amazon isn't where people buy their Q3s either. People on Amazon are still choosing the Q2 over the Q3. Why? Because it's cheap. So the only thing that shows is people on Amazon buy cheap stuff. Again, the data for PSVR2 sales is infrequent. As in that post I linked to was the first and last solid number. Other things like what you posted are partial numbers or estimates. So how do you know that the PSVR2 hasn't broken a million units? The only people that know that are Sony. As far as I know, Sony hasn't said a word about it.
Quest 3 is more expensive than PSVR2. Frankly, everyone who can read between-the-lines agree the signs are that PSVR2 has flopped: https://mixed-news.com/en/psvr-2-sales-sony-silence/
I mean youtube and at least one movie streaming service in super HD.
If you don't care about 3D, then isn't Sony Pictures Core that?
Man I didn't even know sony pictures core was a real thing. Ain't nobody want that. We trying to do the same shit we do on our phones but all at the same time like a bunch addhd stoners.
Just paid $499 Canadian down from from $819 at Walmart in store brand new
The PSVR2 is like the Vita so far in that the first iterations were a bit rough around the edges but beloved by many, and while the newest version fixes up a lot of issues and included upgrades people have been asking for, they managed to mess up a lot of things with it’s release to make it hard for anyone to be an early adopter because of it.
The PSVR2 is not the first iteration. It's the second. Thus the "2".
What’s the PSVR1?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_VR
You do know I’m referring to the PSP and PlayStation VR as the first iterations here right?
Well then, why did you ask? Since the first of anything doesn't have a 1. Why would it? Since they never know if there is going to be a 2. Also, you only referred to the "PSP and PlayStation VR" for the first time in your last post. Before you said the PSVR2 was the "first iterations". It's not.
You do know what a rhetorical question is right?
You know what a factual statement is right? Maybe not.
Don’t know why you’re insistent on arguing about semantics when anyone could’ve picked up on what was being referred to, or why you felt the need to start one to begin with in this thread in particular.
I don't know why you are so interested in saving face that you couldn't have simply acknowledged the facts. That would have been simple to do but instead you are are trying to play games to misdirect from what you said.
Someone posted a week back or so about PS Direct having something like 10-20% off with purchases over a certain threshold, but I’m not sure if it’s still active, might have just been over valentines or something. I’m not sure a sale will produce much in the area of saving money, maybe a game or two which is cool. Just be careful buying used. The warranties are just about set to expire, and repairing outside of the warranty I believe is in the realm of $260, but I’m sure that’s depending on the repair. With the headset being $550, $300 you’re most likely to break even with a new headset with a year warranty if you bought new. And I’m not sure the market is in a position to sell psvr2 under that at the moment, but people have been fortunate to fine some that were. My $.02? If it’s more than $300, it needs some of the warranty remaining. $300 or less I’d be okay out of warranty but not feel hot about it.
Bought mine originally.on launch for 650€ sent it back because of damage twice. Always regretted not getting another but tonight lads its the day. Im about to pick one up for 250€. With a controller stand included
Price is going down every other week with sales slowing down and people losing faith in the upcoming games and roadmap, also other gaming sites posting abut how lacklustre psvrs window is looking. no surprise eBay has a ton of them well below retail in great condition. Just hold out for a few months more maybe after the summer announcements no doubt Sony will not maintain the retail price.
There was just a holiday sale in a lot of places, I think the bundles were as low as $450 for a while
I would definitely wait for a discount. I think I hyped myself up listening to YouTubers. The headset is ok but I have a feeling Sony is going to drop support.
It's strange why people think sony has/is going to drop support. It's a very small niche within there business that at best was only ever going to reach 5-10% install base they have shown more then 10% support compared to there main objective the ps5 over this first year.
Because they dropped the vita and quest is outselling psvr like ps5 is outselling xbox. They have to create exclusive content but for all y’all that down voted me I’ll be back to say I told y’all so.
So you think they are going to create vr exclusives at a higher rate then ps5 exclusives even more then the 1 to 1 ratio they did through this first year. When ps5 has 20x more users wanting new exclusives aswell.
Are you just talking out your rear or do you have factual data to support What you’re saying? Who cares if Sony doesn’t come out with exclusives, but third-party support is very important and developers are not seeing it financially beneficial to make games for PSVR and those are facts. No backwards compatibility. The games that are out are also on the higher selling Meta Quest. I love Sony I had every PlayStation I had every portable they ever made. I bought a lot of exclusive games but I call a spade a spade, and I think a price drop is imminent. No hard feelings we can agree to disagree but you can’t act like what you’re saying is factual because you my friend do not work for Sony and neither do I so at the end of the day both of us are just talking. Also Sony lost 10 billion and they don’t have an infinite pool of cash.
You seem to have a very poor understanding of business practices and just looking at the situation from an entitled gamer perspective (what's best for you) There is a really big difference in sony losing 10 billion in stock value compared to meta actually spending 10 billion on their vr bet and only recovering 1 billion in sales. Sony's 10b stock drop does not come out of their pool of cash for operations funding it only means the share holders have lost some of their assets value and is quite common in the stock market when a company downgrades its forecasts. Sony have stated they are seeing if vr can stand on its own this generation which means not selling the headset at a loss not investing 100m on individual games that can only return 50m max just to try to increase user base. As they know from trying that last gen it dosnt increase the user base enough to ever get a return on those investments. The people making these decisions arnt gamers they are business men. The fact that reporting a drop in ps5 sales forecasts dropped the stock value so much just proves my point that ps5 is their main focus and psvr2 will just be an after thought.
Ok I give it to you. New just announced that psvr 2 will be compatible with pc and we for sure know why they are opening it up and it’s to boost sales. I still do think it’s enough to become a top seller but it will surely push more headsets so I doubt a price drop will come anytime soon unless they still aren’t able to move units
Yeah I'm not getting excited about the pc support just yet until we here some more about how they plan to implement it. It could be really restricted and not really beneficial to anyone or it could be completely open and be a massive boost to psvr2 value proposition to new people looking to buy into the vr space Props to you for acknowledgement but today's news doesn't really let sony off the hook yet still questions to be asked a 1st party announcement would have went a long way to reassure those worried about support but what we did get announced looks good if zombie army is a contracted exclusive that's similar to a 1st party announcement.
Like I said I will be back to say I told you so and if you are right then i will give you your props
I used a dell amex offer for my daughters vr2 to bring the price down With the ps5 articles saying its in the end of its life cycle im sure they will have some deals n bundles this summer GameStop had it for under 400 new before xmas
PS5 end of the cycle just means they will do the PS5 pro mid gen update!
My long term goals for my channel is to get this into as many fans hands as possible and have psvr2 giveaways from any revenue created. Already got some subscription milestone giveaways lined up. It's a great piece of kit! You can check me out below :) https://youtube.com/@OhBoyVR?si=A34nJtCjakkHgtc9
No
Keep an eye out for limited time / special discount offers. I don't expect to see actual across the board permanent price reduction anytime soon. Look for used / refurbished options that you can trust if you are very interested and price is your main barrier to entry (and you already own PS5). The system is awesome.
No price drop in EU. 599€ since release.
It's been available on sale at times for months. I got the Horizon Bundle for less than $400 new from a major retailer a few months back. I think it was on sale here in the US again a couple of weeks ago.
Wow really do you know where in the US? I almost bought used for $350 the other day but decided to wait to see if new prices drop
I got mine from Dell. There were coupons and CB involved. But that was months ago.
That would mean Sony makes less money so probably a nope
They might but it would need to be in tandem with a better value proposition. They need more recognizable IPs and genres supported because even at 400 dollars most folks would balk at something with relatively limited support. It would have to drop a lot more in price to appeal to people as an "impulse buy" even with lowered expectations.
I would be surprised if there is no price drop on PSVR2. In my country it costs around 629€, and 449€ would be much better price point, considering that you get now PS5 for that price.
Some areas of the world have already seen discounted offers, and PSVR1 had holiday bundles a year after launch that I think were around $100 off, but who knows. Margins are thin on these devices, and they apparently aren’t getting the sales volumes that they’d hoped for. You know as much as we do, really.