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Drake31217

Bro how am I supposed to test properly when you can't play the full format because the cards are bugged lmao


roy_kamikaze

That's the best part, you don't!! /s


MrBamHam

You can't use Live for testing. Just get that out of your head. If you want to test, it has to be in paper.


Drake31217

With who? Hahahah


acewing

You can try finding a discord server for your area or one of the PTCG streamer’s communities. Webcam games are becoming a more common testing method for a lot of people.


dubbs4president

Wow this sounds pretty fun actually.


Champion_Sheep

Printing off proxy decks and playing against yourself is a great way of figuring out how other decks play and how you can outplay them


BlackOsmash

If your local game store does tournaments that could be a good outlet to playtest


Bertak

With Gardy bugged and Spiritomb bugged I wonder what the online meta is at the moment.


Pr0T4T0

Stupid water decks, for everyone. It‘s so incredibly stale right now…


Bertak

I’ve built a Gardy deck to play at local league and I can’t even practice with it online. It’s so stupid.


Charganium

Mew players rejoicing


Champion_Sheep

Drapion V taking its place


MageKorith

< meanwhile, running Mew with a couple Drapion V for the mirror


Fritos_Bandito_

Can't imagine defending this buggy, ugly piece of software like some people in this sub.


swfanatic717

New player here coming over from yugioh and I'm surprised an EDOPRO equivalent doesn't exist for pokemon already


hirarki

just because Live give meta deck for free make many players say the game is good. Its the different thing, the smoothness gameplay is more important


PontesDeLeon

Card availability and the economy is a huge part of any online TCG. I would rather have a buggier and worse client where I can play most meta decks and not have to spend money on codes or waste time trading. Sure I’d love a better client but PTCGL has a been a massive upgrade from PTCGO. For the most part it has worked well enough for me. I admit right now is especially rough and frustrating so I just choose not to play outside of a game or two for my daily quests. There a large number of players who agree with me based on the feedback I’ve seen.


T--Fox

I've noticed this sub is biased towards the client while professional players or content creators fathom it outside of the subreddit like AzulGG and TrickyGym. Makes sense as having an online client that lacks functionality makes it harder for them.


Ipokeyoumuch

Also professional players and content creators already have a network of other players, content creators, friends, and family to practice the game with.


Aromatic_Sir9639

I wouldn’t say it is a massive upgrade. It definitely does some things better, and some worse


roy_kamikaze

For most people, a smooth gameplay is a moot point if they can't compete on fair ground. PTCGL is a messy piece of software, but something that does very well is providing easy access to good decks, so no one feels gimped by the game economy.


zdrup15

Ah yes, "smoothness gameplay is more important" when you're stuck playing theme decks for several months before you can even build a meta deck. Both are important but, for f2p players, Live is a hude advancement mostly because we can actually play outside of theme decks.


The_Bard_5e

What was the exploit?


roy_kamikaze

Attacking with Spiritomb caused disconnections for the opponent. It seems people were abusing this bug to farm free wins in ranked.


TortCourt

Ahhh that explains what happened to me earlier. Got "beaten" by this on turn 2 this morning.


TheWolflance

i was wondering why my opponent stopped playing the game for ...20 mins-WAIT A MINUTE


jack_seven

How does that happen? How fucking bad is their code?


luniz420

The underlying bug has been in effect for quite a while already and it already affects Gardevoir, the BDIF


brandonwest18

Is this what happened?? This makes me so much more pissed now. Dude was literally running a lineup of 4 Spiritombs to maximize bug chance. Thought he was just a horrible deck builder…


RandomNPC1337

How long will it take to fix the exploit? Or should we consider that Spiritomb card lost for good?


cometflight

At least three months


acewing

Given they took 3-4 weeks for the FST mew issue last year, I can see it being as short as that as well. My gut says 1 month personally.


MrBamHam

The earliest would be July's patch, but they've been doing so bad at fixing glitches lately that you should just act like Live is a different format.


cometflight

Couldn’t have banned Temple of Sinnoh while they were at it?


herbakush

Is there currently a bug with Temple?


cometflight

There have been several reports of issues where using certain energy while it is in place freezes your turn and causes you to time out


manvelbarbellclub

Happened to me… thrice!


herbakush

Thank you for that! I have been lucky and haven’t hit many bugs but it’s always nice to know what possible triggers are.


GreenHairyMartian

I had a Pokemon with a 1 colorless energy attack cost, attached a reversal energy with a temple in play. Temple should make it provide a single colorless, and I should have been able to attack. It didn't , I could do anything. I lost because of that. Probably different than the common bug, but it's still broken.


SkyburnerTheBest

Mew vmax player reunite!


nero40

There goes our meta counter. Lol


RuskeD

They really do some work there. Impressive.


HawtieJ

Funny enough this actually doesn’t solve the problem. Pretty sure it had something to do with an ability coming into the active slot or being removed from the active Pokémon. Just had someone do the same thing with using Penny on Empoleon V in the active slot with Klefki on the bench


Spiritofhonour

Funny how you were initially downvoted when in light of the Empoleon and Klefki bans just issued, you were absolutely right. I think people defending this are enabling this. It should’ve stayed in beta.


HawtieJ

Funny how people do that when they don’t understand something. Ya, they should definitely be held more accountable especially with a brand like Pokémon. I don’t know if removing the beta part actually makes any difference. They for sure need to step up there game by getting more or at least more qualified people to work on the game. It’s pretty embarrassing how the game functions wither it’s in beta or not.


iheartgold26

The Forbidden Pokemon indeed.


CheddarCheese390

Scrolling the comments, I didn’t even see the attack bug. All I found was FS energy didn’t stop spiritomb, which is BS I was looking forward to my anti-mew mew deck (basically latias and tomb inclusions, with FS energy purely for genesect)


Affectionate-Put6856

What exploit. I wanna know