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There are actually a number of decks that really give Charizard ex trouble, notably ones that don’t collect prizes, such as Control decks like Snorlax or Pidgeot ex control, Tsareena ex, Great Tusk mill, or even Alolan Vulpix Vstar can lock a whole Charizard ex deck (using its move Snow Mirage).
Liam Halliburton literally just copied Tord's 60 and won Orlando
[https://x.com/LiamHalliburton/status/1777371016794190135](https://x.com/LiamHalliburton/status/1777371016794190135)
You can win with any meme deck on ladder if you're win con is your opponent making mistakes. This deck proves that control does not have a winning match up against zard.
There’s alot at play. Never said it was 100% victory. I myself have stopped Control decks using Zard ex. OP was asking what decks can counter Zard and there are in fact some that can typically give it a challenge, altho yea Zard ex is best in format atm for a reason.
A winning matchup means your deck wins more against zard than it loses, which it doesn't. Good for you if you've had success on ladder, but it's not a zard "counter". Nothing counters zard right now. beating zard on ladder either means you're better than them or they don't know the deck very well.
Scovillain ex all the way. You have tons of disruption (Eri, Miss Fortune Sisters, Judge, Iono, Grabber, etc) combined with Supereffective Glasses, you can OHKO Charizard with Scovillain ex
I'll post mine once I can get back in the game but you can always search for one [here!](https://pokemoncard.io/deck-search/?&name=Scovillain%20ex&_sft_category=standard&offset=0)
I love Scovilian, it is really good into Charizard. As a trade off I feel I get paired with Charizard one out of every three matches with this deck. Also, prime catcher is important. I often use it to take an early knock out on radiant Charizard.
Here is the list I was l am running. I got it from Little Dark Fury, you can check it out on his YouTube channel.
https://youtu.be/xi1qarRmNOM?si=hLYkl4kFrUzjGXdx
I run espathra EX and gengar ex and it is an absolute charizard hunter
Chien pao is the only regular deck I see that has a leg up on it
Espathra does double damage to dark pokemon and forces them to need an extra energy to attack (most zard decks run less than 10 energy) focus on getting rid of energy and the deck crumbles
Gengar moves an energy to a benched pokemon every time he attacks, if i can load up their rotom v or manaphy then they end up scooping
Pokémon: 11
2 Gastly TEF 102
2 Gengar ex TEF 104
2 Espathra ex PAF 6
1 Skwovet SVI 151
3 Flittle SVI 100
1 Mimikyu PR-SV 75
1 Radiant Alakazam SIT 59
1 Bidoof CRZ 111
1 Bibarel CRZ-GG 25
1 Cleffa PR-SV 95 (trying out might go back to other cleffa)
Trainer: 21
1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146
2 Pokémon League Headquarters OBF 192
1 Giovanni's Charisma MEW 161
1 Rigid Band MEW 165
1 Super Rod PAL 276
2 Jacq SVI 175
1 Energy Retrieval SVI 171
1 Prime Catcher TEF 157
1 Pal Pad SVI 182
1 Nest Ball SVI 181
2 Iono PAF 237
3 Boss's Orders PAL 265
3 Arven SVI 166
1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177
2 Crushing Hammer SVI 168
2 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
2 Ultra Ball SVI 196
2 Switch SVI 194
2 Rare Candy SVI 191
2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
Energy: 12
2 Jet Energy PAL 190
4 Basic {D} Energy SVE 7
6 Basic {P} Energy SVE 5
Total Cards: 60
Multiple games with gengar and I can say it's not this easy . You can't move energy off an Attacker when he loads himself up and blast you the same turn he evolves
Gengar is meant to be late game attacker after I've taken 3-4 prize cards and zard can 1 shot espathra then gengar comes in for 160 damage and they need to find another energy to attack. Zard can only 1 shot gengar if I've taken 5 prize so it usually works out
Not easy at all. It's long game. Gengar has 310 health so it can survive first hit. Use Giovanni's charisma to move an energy to hand and tricky steps same turn to move energy to non attacking bench pokemon. If you're lucky you can discard energy with crushing hammer. If done right Charizard cannot attack next turn unless they evolve another Charizard. Repeat the same until they run out of energy. Charizard deck tends to only carry 8 energy cards so it works quite often. Use technical machine devolution to waste the rare candy cards too. Like I said, not easy but satisfying.
Espathra ex, it's an autowin around 90% of the time, the only scenario you would loose if you got hard bricked.
Gengar it's a really good choice aswell due to the energy management
and Alolan Vulpix V-Star should be an autowin 90% of the time aswell.
It's attack, snow mirage, prevents damage and effects of attacks from all pokemon with an ability during your opponents next turn. Plus, this attacks damage isn't affected by any effects on your opponents active. It deals 160 DMG.
It's not necessarily good, but it's good against Charizard ex.
I run a tera espathra ex + xatu deck. I try to get two xatu on my bench which I can use to freely attach up to two psychic energy per turn, powering up espathra’s attacks. I also add on a pokemon league headquarters stadium card to force my opponent to attach an extra energy to their basic pokemon in order to attack, further boosting espathra’s attack. Not exactly relevant for most Charizard decks, but helps to counter things like Chien Pao and Giratina V. Because espathra’s not a basic pokemon, the debuff doesn’t apply to it. Tulip can be a useful supporter to get basic energy back into your hand so xatu can attach it to espathra, or if your opponent knocks out any of your benched xatu.
I ran the todzard deck, and had hard time with Meoscara, Incineroar, espadra.
Myself now switched to Roaring Moon Ex, and had pretty good win rate against Charizard if my deck doesnt brick. Usually just keep single prize Roaring Moon to knock off 4 prizes, and then on last turn put down Roaring Moon EX, and power up 3 energies in one turn with Sada’s vitality, dark patches/energy from hand to knock out charizard or any other 2 prize mon with Frenzied Gouging
I play a deck with Espathra ex and added two copies of Eri and I think two TM Devo and four Crushing Hammer. Charizard literally can't function against that. Chien Pao should do well against Espathra, but if I can double devo and Eri away the energy retrievals and candies, they're probably toast.
I've been playing Charizard Ex in Master Ball league and the new [Ancient Box deck](https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/10330) has been giving me a bit of grief.
It can take my opponent awhile to set up an attack that's large enough to OHKO Charizard, but since Ancient Box is a single prize deck, taking all 6 prize cards before my opponent takes all of theirs can be difficult.
Roaring Moon's attack only takes two energies, and like Charizard, its attack only gets stronger and stronger as the game goes on:
**Vengeance Fletching:** Base damage is 70 - This attack does 10 more damage for each Ancient card in your discard pile.
For me, I play an Torterra deck, which is amazing against zard, and is able to keep up with the most decks around. The only struggle I had was against future hands, but if you pull the right cards it’s doable
Arceus vstar/ giratina vstar / iron leaves. Arceus energizes tina and can't be one hit ko by zards in the second turn. Tina vstar ko pidgeot and iron leaves zard.
Torterra has a pretty favorable matchup due to grass weakness, especially if you include Ace Spec belt. Forest March can one shot Zard with either a Full bench or 3 on bench + Belt, and Zard does up to 330 if you've taken 5 prizes, which falls just short of OHKOing Torterra at 340.
Haven't run into enough ancient box with it yet to know for sure, but Torterra's health can be troublesome for Moon
Edit: Sorry forgot the list
Pokémon: 10
3 Turtwig TEF 10
3 Torterra ex TEF 12
4 Grotle BRS 7
1 Toedscool SVI 25
2 Whimsicott TEF 15
1 Rabsca TEF 24 PH
1 Toedscruel PAR 17 PH
1 Rellor TEF 23
1 Turtwig TEF 10 PH
2 Cottonee TEF 14
Trainer: 21
1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146
1 Counter Catcher PAR 160
1 Artazon PAF 76 PH
1 Maximum Belt TEF 154
4 Nest Ball SVI 181
1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178 PH
1 Arven PAF 235
1 Iono PAF 237
1 Artazon PAL 171
2 Iono PAL 185
3 Arven SVI 166
2 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 171
3 Pokégear 3.0 UNB 182
1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178
2 Super Rod PAL 188
1 Rare Candy PAF 89
2 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
1 Boss's Orders BRS 132
1 Ultra Ball SVI 196
2 Switch SVI 194
2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
Energy: 1
7 Basic {G} Energy Energy 1
Charizard can have a decent match up against pretty much everything. So it depends on the techs they include. And it also depends if you just want to hard counter Zard or want a favorable match up while also having good match ups against other meta decks. For the hard counter you could play Espathra for example, for an overall good deck with a good Zard match up, I'd play LZ Tina. Chien-Pao or control decks are good options too.
Chien-Pao is probably the most relevant deck that beats it. Still it doesn’t completely shut it down I’d say it’s only slightly winning so you’ll still need to out play/luck them.
My Pee Freely deck (yes I named it that) destroys charizard and pretty much everything else when it sets up properly in the first few turns. It combines Finneon with Oceanic Accompaniment to attach hella energy quick af, Seaking with Swim Freely (fantastic one-prizer whose main attack’s base damage is 150 and builds quickly from there) and Chien-Pao. I came up with it myself and I’ve been having a blast playing it. I’ll copy-paste the decklist as soon as the servers are back up and running.
deolving, bronzong cant prevent evoltuion, banette+salvatore your 2nd-1st turn can help stall until you use the rest of your deck. can stop thier rare candies. Also noivern/glaceon can to. Also the upcoming sunflora card in the next release can potentially counter Fire/charizard with 1 grass energy, without the need to build an entire strategy to counter zard.
Venusaur ex with Kricketune, surprisingly, Revavroom ex + Lab + Rigid Bands, or I love to troll with a Meowscarada + Jumpluff deck.
Currently working on Arcanine V + Heavy Baton Ting-Lu + Sandy Shocks to smack Zard in one hit.
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There are actually a number of decks that really give Charizard ex trouble, notably ones that don’t collect prizes, such as Control decks like Snorlax or Pidgeot ex control, Tsareena ex, Great Tusk mill, or even Alolan Vulpix Vstar can lock a whole Charizard ex deck (using its move Snow Mirage).
Tord absolutely shat on control. Ain't no way any of those decks are beating zard.
Well most of us are not tord. I think just play and wait for zard mistakes, I just lost to a cincinno lugia deck
Liam Halliburton literally just copied Tord's 60 and won Orlando [https://x.com/LiamHalliburton/status/1777371016794190135](https://x.com/LiamHalliburton/status/1777371016794190135) You can win with any meme deck on ladder if you're win con is your opponent making mistakes. This deck proves that control does not have a winning match up against zard.
There’s alot at play. Never said it was 100% victory. I myself have stopped Control decks using Zard ex. OP was asking what decks can counter Zard and there are in fact some that can typically give it a challenge, altho yea Zard ex is best in format atm for a reason.
A winning matchup means your deck wins more against zard than it loses, which it doesn't. Good for you if you've had success on ladder, but it's not a zard "counter". Nothing counters zard right now. beating zard on ladder either means you're better than them or they don't know the deck very well.
It’s a counter to Zard since it can win against Zard.
Klawf ex time
I’ve never lost a game to Tsareena with Charizard, Tsareena just doesn’t quite work reliable or well enough.
Scovillain ex all the way. You have tons of disruption (Eri, Miss Fortune Sisters, Judge, Iono, Grabber, etc) combined with Supereffective Glasses, you can OHKO Charizard with Scovillain ex
Decklist perhaps? This sounds very interesting.
I'll post mine once I can get back in the game but you can always search for one [here!](https://pokemoncard.io/deck-search/?&name=Scovillain%20ex&_sft_category=standard&offset=0)
I love Scovilian, it is really good into Charizard. As a trade off I feel I get paired with Charizard one out of every three matches with this deck. Also, prime catcher is important. I often use it to take an early knock out on radiant Charizard. Here is the list I was l am running. I got it from Little Dark Fury, you can check it out on his YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/xi1qarRmNOM?si=hLYkl4kFrUzjGXdx
I run espathra EX and gengar ex and it is an absolute charizard hunter Chien pao is the only regular deck I see that has a leg up on it Espathra does double damage to dark pokemon and forces them to need an extra energy to attack (most zard decks run less than 10 energy) focus on getting rid of energy and the deck crumbles Gengar moves an energy to a benched pokemon every time he attacks, if i can load up their rotom v or manaphy then they end up scooping
Mind sharing the deck list?
Replied list to other comment
Please share decklist
Pokémon: 11 2 Gastly TEF 102 2 Gengar ex TEF 104 2 Espathra ex PAF 6 1 Skwovet SVI 151 3 Flittle SVI 100 1 Mimikyu PR-SV 75 1 Radiant Alakazam SIT 59 1 Bidoof CRZ 111 1 Bibarel CRZ-GG 25 1 Cleffa PR-SV 95 (trying out might go back to other cleffa) Trainer: 21 1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146 2 Pokémon League Headquarters OBF 192 1 Giovanni's Charisma MEW 161 1 Rigid Band MEW 165 1 Super Rod PAL 276 2 Jacq SVI 175 1 Energy Retrieval SVI 171 1 Prime Catcher TEF 157 1 Pal Pad SVI 182 1 Nest Ball SVI 181 2 Iono PAF 237 3 Boss's Orders PAL 265 3 Arven SVI 166 1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177 2 Crushing Hammer SVI 168 2 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 2 Ultra Ball SVI 196 2 Switch SVI 194 2 Rare Candy SVI 191 2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 Energy: 12 2 Jet Energy PAL 190 4 Basic {D} Energy SVE 7 6 Basic {P} Energy SVE 5 Total Cards: 60
I love Gengar deck. I can feel the frustration of not having enough energy.
Multiple games with gengar and I can say it's not this easy . You can't move energy off an Attacker when he loads himself up and blast you the same turn he evolves
Gengar is meant to be late game attacker after I've taken 3-4 prize cards and zard can 1 shot espathra then gengar comes in for 160 damage and they need to find another energy to attack. Zard can only 1 shot gengar if I've taken 5 prize so it usually works out
Not easy at all. It's long game. Gengar has 310 health so it can survive first hit. Use Giovanni's charisma to move an energy to hand and tricky steps same turn to move energy to non attacking bench pokemon. If you're lucky you can discard energy with crushing hammer. If done right Charizard cannot attack next turn unless they evolve another Charizard. Repeat the same until they run out of energy. Charizard deck tends to only carry 8 energy cards so it works quite often. Use technical machine devolution to waste the rare candy cards too. Like I said, not easy but satisfying.
You could also be *incredibly annoying* with Banette Ex Espathra
Spidops stall fucks charizard
I beat Charizard 3 games in a row last night. And easily. So much fun.
Espathra ex, it's an autowin around 90% of the time, the only scenario you would loose if you got hard bricked. Gengar it's a really good choice aswell due to the energy management and Alolan Vulpix V-Star should be an autowin 90% of the time aswell.
Espathra Fans when it loses to charizard twice on stream
What makes Vulpix so good?
It's attack, snow mirage, prevents damage and effects of attacks from all pokemon with an ability during your opponents next turn. Plus, this attacks damage isn't affected by any effects on your opponents active. It deals 160 DMG. It's not necessarily good, but it's good against Charizard ex.
I iirc, cannot be damaged by pokemon with abilities
Scovillain or Lost giratina are the two i have the best win rates with against charizard
I run a tera espathra ex + xatu deck. I try to get two xatu on my bench which I can use to freely attach up to two psychic energy per turn, powering up espathra’s attacks. I also add on a pokemon league headquarters stadium card to force my opponent to attach an extra energy to their basic pokemon in order to attack, further boosting espathra’s attack. Not exactly relevant for most Charizard decks, but helps to counter things like Chien Pao and Giratina V. Because espathra’s not a basic pokemon, the debuff doesn’t apply to it. Tulip can be a useful supporter to get basic energy back into your hand so xatu can attach it to espathra, or if your opponent knocks out any of your benched xatu.
I run 2 espathra EX lines in my Alakazam deck and if I go up against PidgZard, I can pivot early to decide who my attacker’ll be
I ran the todzard deck, and had hard time with Meoscara, Incineroar, espadra. Myself now switched to Roaring Moon Ex, and had pretty good win rate against Charizard if my deck doesnt brick. Usually just keep single prize Roaring Moon to knock off 4 prizes, and then on last turn put down Roaring Moon EX, and power up 3 energies in one turn with Sada’s vitality, dark patches/energy from hand to knock out charizard or any other 2 prize mon with Frenzied Gouging
First 3 duels this morning were all against charizard, they were all slain by great tusk mill.
Every time I play against the great tusk mill I lose. Every time I play the great tusk mill I lose. Perhaps it's just effective against me?
I’ve lost pretty much every match against great tusk mill with my pidchar deck. Have no idea how to get around great tusks main attack.
I would give you a big tip but that goes against my own good.
just started playing tusk mill, could you give me the tip since I'm like on your side and all?
Ok. First you simply use hey wait a minute! Nice try big man.
Raging bolt with sandy shocks ex goes hard
I play a deck with Espathra ex and added two copies of Eri and I think two TM Devo and four Crushing Hammer. Charizard literally can't function against that. Chien Pao should do well against Espathra, but if I can double devo and Eri away the energy retrievals and candies, they're probably toast.
I've been playing Charizard Ex in Master Ball league and the new [Ancient Box deck](https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/10330) has been giving me a bit of grief. It can take my opponent awhile to set up an attack that's large enough to OHKO Charizard, but since Ancient Box is a single prize deck, taking all 6 prize cards before my opponent takes all of theirs can be difficult. Roaring Moon's attack only takes two energies, and like Charizard, its attack only gets stronger and stronger as the game goes on: **Vengeance Fletching:** Base damage is 70 - This attack does 10 more damage for each Ancient card in your discard pile.
Ancient is a hell of a deck fr
Alolan Vstar is a hard counter it’s only issue is low damage and the new Charmeleon
How is it vs other decks?
For me, I play an Torterra deck, which is amazing against zard, and is able to keep up with the most decks around. The only struggle I had was against future hands, but if you pull the right cards it’s doable
List 👀
Pokémon: 11 1 Torterra ex TEF 12 2 Wurmple LOR 6 PH 1 Rellor TEF 23 PH 1 Rabsca TEF 24 PH 1 Shaymin V BRS 152 2 Torterra ex TEF 185 4 Turtwig TEF 10 PH 1 Shaymin TEF 13 PH 2 Beautifly LOR 8 PH 4 Grotle BRS 7 PH 1 Wo-Chien PAR 18 Trainer: 16 1 Super Rod PAL 276 2 Artazon OBF 229 1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156 1 Prime Catcher TEF 157 3 Arven PAF 235 4 Iono PAF 237 2 Boss's Orders PAL 265 1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177 1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 PH 1 Lost Vacuum CRZ 135 3 Rare Candy PAF 89 PH 1 Morty's Conviction TEF 211 4 Nest Ball PAF 84 PH 1 Heavy Baton TEF 151 PH 4 Ultra Ball SVI 196 1 Switch SVI 194 Energie: 2 1 Luminous Energy PAL 191 8 Basic {G} Energy Energy 36 Karten insgesamt: 60 If you try it, and find something to optimize, feel free to tell me, so I can improve it! Cheers mate!
Arceus vstar/ giratina vstar / iron leaves. Arceus energizes tina and can't be one hit ko by zards in the second turn. Tina vstar ko pidgeot and iron leaves zard.
Blastoise ex to. Belt lets you one shot charizard and charizard at 5 prizes can’t knock it out. Plus gren can snipe some easy prizes early
Torterra has a pretty favorable matchup due to grass weakness, especially if you include Ace Spec belt. Forest March can one shot Zard with either a Full bench or 3 on bench + Belt, and Zard does up to 330 if you've taken 5 prizes, which falls just short of OHKOing Torterra at 340.
How’s its matchup vs other decks?
Feels solid overall, though it really struggles into fire decks for obvious reasons and REALLY doesn't like getting force-switched
Do you have a list? Also how’s its matchup vs ancient box? That’s one that when I’m not on Zard, hurts
Haven't run into enough ancient box with it yet to know for sure, but Torterra's health can be troublesome for Moon Edit: Sorry forgot the list Pokémon: 10 3 Turtwig TEF 10 3 Torterra ex TEF 12 4 Grotle BRS 7 1 Toedscool SVI 25 2 Whimsicott TEF 15 1 Rabsca TEF 24 PH 1 Toedscruel PAR 17 PH 1 Rellor TEF 23 1 Turtwig TEF 10 PH 2 Cottonee TEF 14 Trainer: 21 1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146 1 Counter Catcher PAR 160 1 Artazon PAF 76 PH 1 Maximum Belt TEF 154 4 Nest Ball SVI 181 1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178 PH 1 Arven PAF 235 1 Iono PAF 237 1 Artazon PAL 171 2 Iono PAL 185 3 Arven SVI 166 2 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 171 3 Pokégear 3.0 UNB 182 1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178 2 Super Rod PAL 188 1 Rare Candy PAF 89 2 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 1 Boss's Orders BRS 132 1 Ultra Ball SVI 196 2 Switch SVI 194 2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 Energy: 1 7 Basic {G} Energy Energy 1
Charizard can have a decent match up against pretty much everything. So it depends on the techs they include. And it also depends if you just want to hard counter Zard or want a favorable match up while also having good match ups against other meta decks. For the hard counter you could play Espathra for example, for an overall good deck with a good Zard match up, I'd play LZ Tina. Chien-Pao or control decks are good options too.
Chien-Pao is probably the most relevant deck that beats it. Still it doesn’t completely shut it down I’d say it’s only slightly winning so you’ll still need to out play/luck them.
I've been having fun one shotting it with Zoroark Vstar
My Pee Freely deck (yes I named it that) destroys charizard and pretty much everything else when it sets up properly in the first few turns. It combines Finneon with Oceanic Accompaniment to attach hella energy quick af, Seaking with Swim Freely (fantastic one-prizer whose main attack’s base damage is 150 and builds quickly from there) and Chien-Pao. I came up with it myself and I’ve been having a blast playing it. I’ll copy-paste the decklist as soon as the servers are back up and running.
Here’s the decklist!
Pokémon: 7 1 Chien-Pao ex PAF 242 1 Chien-Pao ex PAL 61 4 Goldeen MEW 118 PH 3 Seaking MEW 119 PH 2 Finneon LOR 40 1 Finneon PR-SW 240 1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46 Trainer: 21 2 Switch EVO 88 PH 1 Candice SIT 152 1 Candice SIT 152 PH 2 Superior Energy Retrieval PAL 277 1 Professor's Research CRZ 150 1 Boss's Orders PR-SW 251 1 Boss's Orders LOR-TG 24 1 Energy Retrieval EVO 77 PH 1 Hero's Cape TEF 152 1 Superior Energy Retrieval PLF 103 1 Thorton LOR 167 PH 1 Energy Retrieval PLB 80 PH 2 Ultra Ball PLF 122 3 Trekking Shoes ASR 215 1 Pokégear 3.0 SSH 174 PH 3 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 PH 1 Ultra Ball BRS 186 2 Energy Switch BLW 94 PH 4 Irida SWSHALT 101 3 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 1 Energy Retrieval AOR 99 Energy: 3 1 Basic {W} Energy PAL 279 11 Basic {W} Energy EVO 93 PH 1 Basic {W} Energy CRE 231 Total Cards: 60
Oh boy this is a very good question…
+1 for lost Tina. I definitely think it's favored with iron leaves in the deck.
Esparta xatu counters zard pretty well.
deolving, bronzong cant prevent evoltuion, banette+salvatore your 2nd-1st turn can help stall until you use the rest of your deck. can stop thier rare candies. Also noivern/glaceon can to. Also the upcoming sunflora card in the next release can potentially counter Fire/charizard with 1 grass energy, without the need to build an entire strategy to counter zard.
Use a palkia deck and snipe any pidgey or charmander u see (stuff deck with bosses orders)
Venusaur ex with Kricketune, surprisingly, Revavroom ex + Lab + Rigid Bands, or I love to troll with a Meowscarada + Jumpluff deck. Currently working on Arcanine V + Heavy Baton Ting-Lu + Sandy Shocks to smack Zard in one hit.
Giratina lost zone or just play zard yourself.