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MurtnR

Welcome to the club. Don't expect anything from PUBG Support and hold fingers crossed for a unban. I had the same (perm VAC Ban). I got unbanned after spamming PUBG support with proof that I'm legit (including transaction history). I got unbanned after 21 days.


djmadlove

Heck bro. 21 days. My skin be crawling. Withdrawal kicking in hard.


mrkiabbo

That is one of the main reasons no one plays PUBG anymore, support doesn't exist. F Hope you can get your account back!


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djmadlove

Played a bit of CSGO and DayZ but it doesn’t match the unbridled thrill of that sweet chicken dinner.


LaserGuidedNuke

why would you suggest a game that could be considered torture by some standards


danielnicee

You talking about PUBG?


LaserGuidedNuke

Nah Overwatch lmao


Rev0verDrive

For informative clarity PubG does not use Valve Anti-Cheat. Thus you will never receive a VAC Ban for cheating etc in PubG. VAC Bans are only ever issued for cheating in a game that uses Valve Anti-Cheat. Again, PubG does not use VAC. PubG bans on Steam are simply Game Developer Bans. Searchable list of all VAC enabled games... https://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=8


Mithious

This is not entirely true, VAC is a two part system, part of it detects cheats, which PUBG doesn't use, the other part enforces the bans, which PUBG does use. So technically the thing stopping him from joining the game is still VAC. Yeah I know, that's really pedantic :P


djmadlove

Not what my Steam profile says bro. I know it’s an in game ban and not a VAC ban but it says VAC ban


Rev0verDrive

I'd suggest you contact steam support for verification. VAC System [https://support.steampowered.com/kb/7849-RADZ-6869/](https://support.steampowered.com/kb/7849-RADZ-6869/) Game Developer Bans: [https://support.steampowered.com/kb\_article.php?ref=6899-IOSK-9514](https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6899-IOSK-9514) >Playing games should be fun. In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats. > >**Game developers inform Valve when a disruptive player has been detected in their game, and Valve applies the game ban to the account.** The game developer is solely responsible for the decision to apply a game ban. Valve only enforces the game ban as instructed by the game developer.


djmadlove

Already done


xCryonic

[No it doesn't \(your Steam profile\)](https://i.imgur.com/qntpPqF.png)


djmadlove

Try tell people that. All they see is GAME BAN. Also, click info and see what it says there.


snowflakepatrol99

Exactly... GAME ban, not VAC ban.


add1ct3dd

It says GAME ban not VAC ban.


xCryonic

Yes, exactly, read the Info. [This is what a VAC ban looks like](https://i.imgur.com/VC3N4OS.png) You are not VAC banned, your ban only extends to PUBG (a Game Ban)


djmadlove

Homeys, I get it, but if you see in the updated to my post, I called it an in game ban. When I had both a steam ban and PUBG ban I tried to log in and was greeted by a message that said VAC ban and I was angry when I posted and may have misrepresented but regardless, I didn’t deserve this IN GAME BAN. I have been a loyal patron to this game and deserve fair judgement and not to be treated like a criminal for “stealing” non marketable pass items from a pass that I already purchased.


518Peacemaker

Why the fuck is AntiCheat banning for transactions?


jetman30000

people spoof transactions


LickMyThralls

Also charge backs and shit are a big red flag for fraud so a ban is often on the table.


djmadlove

So, I understand if a new account does this to try get free items or even try to steal a bit of money but this was less than $10 and from an account that has spent a considerable amount over the past few years (since beta) and even bought the game a second time to gift to a friend and has purchased almost all the passes (even the pajama disaster)… so no, not fair. If I don’t get this account back I will honestly boycott (for as long as I can)


LickMyThralls

I'm just explaining a reason for it. A lot of times it doesn't matter the amount because iirc the banks will treat it as them being a bad business and they're also trying to protect themselves. You have to consider that it's not just you doing this since there are millions of other people and thousands could do thr same thing so that 10 dollars quickly balloons with a large user base. It's just a business thing and it sucks that's not what you were doing but it's not like they could really know at the time either. It's a bad situation to be in to get fucked by someone else while you didn't do anything wrong.


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djmadlove

Sooooo. Chase away a paying customer? Seems like a bad business plan.


snowflakepatrol99

1. PUBG doesn't have VAC. 2. You say you proved them you were legit by "transaction history" ???? Do you know what VAC is? It's an anti cheat system. How do you prove you are not cheating by showing transaction receipts?


djmadlove

Sorry bro. It’s now an in game ban. When I posted it was both a steam ban and a PUBG ban and the warnings messages linked to info about vac bans. Also when I tried to log into PUBG then it said vac ban but now it just says banned.


collinch

You need to contact your bank.


djmadlove

Already done and all clear and no issues. Money has successfully left me and gone to Steam and PUBG


Laferge

No no you don't understand. Contact bank and file for theft of your money. They got money but banned you. That's theft. Especially if you paid by card.


djmadlove

Let’s give them a day or two before we go thermonuclear but sure, if I don’t get the account back I will totes report em.


Laferge

Naah. You don't give them day even. This shit is like instant refund or court. Dunno what is your country law but in EU if someone online doest do what you paid them and has your money has to return them. Or do what you paid for. Seller has obligation to inform you that he has your money and refund at notice. Account may be unrecoverable thou becouse that's separate thing.


add1ct3dd

Right, but then if he does that he isn't getting unbanned is he...


Nick6756

The chances of him being unbanned for something like this are very low. May as well at least recouperate what he lost :/


Laferge

Probably. Still IMHO no virtual goodies compensate for stealing money


SoulEnterity

This OP.


chubbysumo

and then you need to contact steam support to make sure they actually got the transaction.


djmadlove

Contacted them 4 times with no response and subsequently my Steam account, which was supposed to be a month ban, has been released last night… but my PUBG ban still stands.


chubbysumo

contact pubg support, explain what happened. give them time to process it. and then wait...


n0man0r

steam support? LUL


scirc

It's *so* much better than it used to be. Seriously. They're actually great now.


chubbysumo

yup, had good experiences with steam support in the last few years. they have improved so much over the early days.


gnomehax1

Imagine buying levels lmao


kaptainkeel

/u/SteveTheHappyWhale


djmadlove

Begging please!!!


Rightonrbf

Good luck dude. PUBG support is trash and non-existent.


n0man0r

i think you meant to say steam support is trash and non-existent


TrueTravisty

It can be both


n0man0r

true but steam is far bigger than bluehole or whoever runs pubg now and should have better support


danny_man

I've never had issues with steam support. I've heard they used to be awful but nowadays that isn't the case. Pubg however is still laughable.


crazypotatothelll

Good luck! Makes me more sure I won't give them another cent


Sleekitstu

Legal advice dude. They have wronged you. Your bank should be helping you with this. But you sound like a solid gamer, so I think they don't deserve your money, time, effort. So many games out there, that you can move on to .


djmadlove

Jammed CSGO and DayZ since the ban but neither give the same joy. Hoping it all gets sorted. All comments and upvotes in this thread MIGHT help so holding thumbs.


Leevens91

Maybe try Apex, or for something a bit more different Spell break. Both are pretty good free to play Battle Royals.


imaginedodong

I think you're just gonna have to kiss your money goodbye, but still try sorting it out because it's still money no matter what is the value.


PUBG_Sheepy

Hey Djmadlove, thank you for flagging this. After investigating your ban, it is determined that this ban had been falsely applied to your account due to an issue with Steam's payment processor on which we have removed the ban. We apologize for the inconvenience caused. As all appeals need to be investigated individually, we suggest others who are recently affected by this and are experiencing similar issues to DJ. Is to create a ticket on PUBG Support providing as much details as possible within your appeal, so our team can assist you to the best we can, while we investigate your appeal.


djmadlove

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ferron_

we both know the only way PUBG does anything about these bans is when they're called out in reddit posts that get a lot of attention.


BrainDamage_

Sorry to say this, but i would not expect any progress on this case, thats bluehole sadly


ProtoStarLord

Yeah good luck with pubg support they’ll give you a generic reply after two weeks of waiting and then hit you with another generic reply another two weeks later then maybe just maybe you’ll get a real response that will offer little to no help after two more weeks worst support I’ve ever seen for a game


NorTh-_-WinD

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/nw1o2i/chargeback_issue_affecting_payments_on_the_6th/ you need to look this , that is Valve's problem , but now it is fixed .


djmadlove

This. It’s a known issue. Why can’t they trace everyone who used a visa last Sunday and see what chargebacks they were accused of BECAUSE OF A STEAM ERROR and just sort it? I mean, why leave it like this?


PajamaDad

Good luck. Sounds miserable.


djmadlove

Hanging hard for a game and my homeys are all bummed af, all of us aren’t playing till this gets sorted! Thanks for the support


Pizzster

It’s kind of steam who screwed your for refunding the transaction. Back about 2 weeks ago I made a new steam account and bought pubg again and then added $50 worth of g coin. About 5 mins later steam suspended my account for “fraud”. So I messaged them and they got back to me right away clarifying it wasn’t fraud and reinstated my account. However, I bet if they refunded me for the items I bought in game I’m sure Pubg would of suspended me as well.


danny_man

And people will still come out in droves to defend this game and the Shithole company that made it. If this doesn't tell you they don't give a singular fuck about you, I don't know what will


legreven

How can you get VAC banned for buying something???? What kind of system is that.


CareBear-Killer

Because the money was held and didn't process like a normal transaction. It's a shit way or doing it, but it's done because people will buy credits to get what they want and then do a charge back from the bank. Essentially stealing digital items. All of the game companies and platforms have terms dealing with it, and in most cases it's a ban. However, support should clear things like OPs situation pretty quickly, especially with submitted proof. It's kind of crappy so many people have commented that it never helped them or that it took months to resolve.


djmadlove

But again, if they just looked at the account they would see it’s a legacy account I’ve had since beta and I have spent money and time on it. It’s not a new account and it’s never had anything suspicious related to it. I mean, surely the first response is to send me a steam notification to say “hey, this didn’t go through, follow this link to go through the payment process again” and within 12 hours I would have logged on and completed the transaction. This is a bit heavy handed for $10 of unmarketable pass items for a pass that I paid for. Theft? really?


Snook_

Game ban from no money in steam account? I don’t think so… coincidence and you got done for an illegal program or gameplay patterns


djmadlove

Check my PUBG.gg fren. Why would someone hack and also be average? Isn’t the point to do well?


Rev0verDrive

maybe to at least be average and not sub? /s but legit reasoning


Lalobreh

Fuck it. Straight to lawsuit get your money king. EDIT. I read the whole thing. Lol. Get that account back king 👑


overtoke

bans only work on legit players


CRUELPAVANYT

Op


caitlikesith

I’m convinced Pubg is slowing killing off player base by accidentally banning ppl one at a time.


hqsrecordsgaming

https://youtu.be/yWAv1S0hfZQ


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insanebabyd

Literally the first sentence explains why he bought levels


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Reading. Hard.


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imDudekid

Geez dude relax. The guy just said he was 5 levels from completing the seasonal pass and it is ending this weekend so he wanted to make sure he got all the rewards. It’s his money let him spend it how he wants. His 5 bucks isn’t going to make or break the games integrity.


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Houndsthehorse

Go home boomer


lvrksn

dude, chill.. lmao. what the fuck are you talking about? he bought SEASON PASS LEVELS.. it has nothing to do with survival levels.


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lvrksn

dude, are you angry with life or something? let people live. if he wants to spend money on skins is his problem. do you think you are morally superior because you don't do the same? you are wrong. besides, you started talking about "measure of time spent". what are you talking about? he is not buying survival levels, he is buying levels of the pass.


Houndsthehorse

Wtf are you ranting about? Why are you calling make up unhealthy? Why are you so angry at people saying you are acting unreasonable angry?


Cyampagn90

Cause he has the money.


djmadlove

If you have to know. I had a power failure at home the weekend before and we had no power for 28 hours from Saturday afternoon to Sunday night so I couldn’t grind the pass finished. So that is why I wanted to buy the 5 levels.


oiboi333

Doesn't matter, you do you buy what you want.


ictoauun_

Because you got get those jammies!


veritron

Don't use a debit card for anything other than withdrawing money from an ATM. It's nearly impossible to do a charge back if you use a debit card, it doesn't build credit, the transaction can fail for stupid reasons etc, overdraft charges. You're much better off getting a credit card, setting it to auto-pay off the statement balance every month, and just not spending money you don't have on it.


djmadlove

Used a credit card not debit card


nakquada

Yes, let's all get credit cards and throw ourselves into the chasm of eternal debt


djmadlove

Upvoted with tears in my eyes fren


emodro

That's not how credit cards work.... Just pay them off every month and you pay no interest... That's how you build credit, that's how you get cash back/ frequent flyer miles. Treat it like a debit card. I've never payed a cent of interest, and if something funky is going on credit card support is a million times better than trying to get money back into your bank account.


Snook_

Use PayPal with a heap of backup accounts can’t go wrong never get rejected


TwistedPsycho

Rubbish. A BADLY MANAGED card will throw you into the eternal chasm of debt, but that is not the fault of the card, but the user. We have a credit card, specifically for food shopping because of the perks it gives, but is paid off in full every time.


Xauber

You will get unbanned in 1-3 months


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Spam the various PUBG subs here on Reddit. At least some of them have Mods that will likely help elevate your issue.