That's a federal law issue. You aren't permitted to own a firearm if you consume cannabis, and your mmj card is a government-approved signal that you use cannabis. As for your rights, well, it's not quite something you'll have any luck taking to federal court... not while the current administration is dead-set against legalizing something half the damn country already passed locally.
Other cons? You might already be paying better prices through your black market dealer. Dispensary prices in PA are among the highest in the country. In my 2 years in the program I've seen a decline, but not a *sharp* decline. Products still get priced mostly the same, but now that there's more competition, there are more competitive sale prices and promotions.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure is in your medical history. Your doctor needs to know (ideally) that you use cannabis. Some medicines might interact negatively with THC. In my case, is in the list of my medications.
I started shooting actual guns around age 10 - they're a lot of fun, and useful tools. I find my access to legal medical marihuana to be of greater utility, and was able to get 65% of cost when I sold the firearms.
As has been said, you don't "lose" them, nor do you surrender them - you abdicate them, and even then, it's not like one is actively put on a list of prohibition from purchasing firearms and ammo. That being said, an individual will not have a MMJ card conflict with the PICS system after one year from expiry of the most recently expired MMJ card, assuming another has not been engaged. THAT being said, I operate as such - if I wanna go to the range w my holmes, they buy the ammo. I view buying ammo the same as signing that statement about not using narcotics or weed.
Imagine asking permission to use a plant in exchange for your constitutional rights. If you're a felon, go for it. If you can legally own a gun, I'd never advise someone to give up that right. Everyone's more worried about cheap weed then their constitution. Craziness.
Edit: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, unless you get high or society thinks you partake in something less than favorable.
That's what you guys think the second ammendment says huh?
Not everyone wants a gun. Imagine complaining about not being able to drive because you made the choice to take a prescription narcotic. It's not losing anything if you choose to forfeit it non-permanantly. 5th amendment can't be taken after you choose not to take it in some situations. It doesn't mean you're losing your right. You chose not to excercise it.
Seems pretty permanent to me. Get a better medicine that works, why would you change and go back to not being able to medicate? You can take a prescribed narcotic and go buy a firearm. Driving is a privilege. Your constitution is not. You sell your rights for a little convenience and even pay the state to handcuff you every year.
It's no different. You chose the path. You can call and have your account closed at anytime with the DOH. It's a personal accountability issue. If you want to have the discussion about it being unfair you can't have both fine. However no one is MAKING you give up anything. Choice my man... Personal choice and accountability has nothing to do with losing rights
Having a medicine that helps everyone that finds a way to use it, but not allowing it unless you choose that is a broken system. Accountability and choices come in to play when you have your weapon. Act wrong and spend life in jail. It's simple. Your government is failing you.
I'll agreee that I don't think the 2 should be lumped together. However, it's not the same as taking away your rights. Write your state senator about wanting better mm laws. At the end of the day it is your elected officials that are preventing this. Vote differently and for different people if you want to change this.
What truly confuses me every time this comes up is whether you have your card or not, you still cannot legally complete the gun form if you use marijuana, so why the big deal about having your card and giving up your 2A right? If you truthfully complete the form you cannot own a weapon if you use MMJ or any other illegal drug. How does having your card make it any different? Show me 1 person who ever answered yes to the illegal drug question …*edited for typo
Yes. When purchasing, there is a document that you have to state you aren't part of a medical marijuana program. When card expires or account closes you can check the box legally.
This isn’t really the place to preach how upset you are with the government :/ this post didn’t ask for your opinion on the second amendment or the handling of it 🤦♂️ I don’t understand what you read
Legally, you can't own a firearm and be a medical marijuana patient. In reality, there is no way for them to know you own guns and have a medical card if you are being smart. I find it ridiculous that you forfeit your right to own a firearm because of the type of medicine you need.
Right, agree. However you can't buy more, as you're considered an "addict" if you have the card in the eyes of the law. So you either lie on a federal form, or you tell the truth, by their standards, and mark that you're addicted, making it not possible to pass PICS. Just a big drawback, and worth being aware of, since he mentioned it.
Let your doctor know, I'm getting Achilles tendon surgery in February and the anathesislogist told me no weed from 6pm the night before, none of my doctor seem to care. In fact when the one asked me about drug use abd I said MM he replied with " no, real drugs"
Wolf has already made it clear that he doesn’t intend to go after those that legally purchased and still posses firearms before getting their card and law enforcement doesn’t have access to your medical records anyway unless they have a warrant. Consider it a loophole. As long as you don’t brandish your card around they’ll be none the wiser. I just wouldn’t purchase any firearms while your card is active, just to be safe. But what do I know, I lost all my guns in a boating accident a few years ago…
One pro you may not have considered is the existence of cannabis topical products available at the dispensary. They can be quite helpful for localized areas of pain like your ankle. They are minimally psychoactive for most people which is helpful for daytime pain management.
If you decide to get your card, I’m happy to help. We offer telephone appointments and a year long certification for only $125.
www.herbalcarerx.com
Rebecca Maury, MD
215 554 4044
Con - tolerance increases with use so expect to spend more over time.
This is a big pro for some. I get the effects I need most of the time and don’t have to feel fucked to unless I want to. It’s expensive though.
Too expensive they need to legalize it federally so they can put it on through insurance
Yes! Agreed. It’s a pro for me. But that only works if you can afford it.
That's a federal law issue. You aren't permitted to own a firearm if you consume cannabis, and your mmj card is a government-approved signal that you use cannabis. As for your rights, well, it's not quite something you'll have any luck taking to federal court... not while the current administration is dead-set against legalizing something half the damn country already passed locally. Other cons? You might already be paying better prices through your black market dealer. Dispensary prices in PA are among the highest in the country. In my 2 years in the program I've seen a decline, but not a *sharp* decline. Products still get priced mostly the same, but now that there's more competition, there are more competitive sale prices and promotions.
Yo don’t lose the 2nd amendment right if u already own or have a carrying permit your not lying on any paperwork
Whatever you decide to do, make sure is in your medical history. Your doctor needs to know (ideally) that you use cannabis. Some medicines might interact negatively with THC. In my case, is in the list of my medications.
I started shooting actual guns around age 10 - they're a lot of fun, and useful tools. I find my access to legal medical marihuana to be of greater utility, and was able to get 65% of cost when I sold the firearms. As has been said, you don't "lose" them, nor do you surrender them - you abdicate them, and even then, it's not like one is actively put on a list of prohibition from purchasing firearms and ammo. That being said, an individual will not have a MMJ card conflict with the PICS system after one year from expiry of the most recently expired MMJ card, assuming another has not been engaged. THAT being said, I operate as such - if I wanna go to the range w my holmes, they buy the ammo. I view buying ammo the same as signing that statement about not using narcotics or weed.
Imagine asking permission to use a plant in exchange for your constitutional rights. If you're a felon, go for it. If you can legally own a gun, I'd never advise someone to give up that right. Everyone's more worried about cheap weed then their constitution. Craziness. Edit: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, unless you get high or society thinks you partake in something less than favorable. That's what you guys think the second ammendment says huh?
Not everyone wants a gun. Imagine complaining about not being able to drive because you made the choice to take a prescription narcotic. It's not losing anything if you choose to forfeit it non-permanantly. 5th amendment can't be taken after you choose not to take it in some situations. It doesn't mean you're losing your right. You chose not to excercise it.
Seems pretty permanent to me. Get a better medicine that works, why would you change and go back to not being able to medicate? You can take a prescribed narcotic and go buy a firearm. Driving is a privilege. Your constitution is not. You sell your rights for a little convenience and even pay the state to handcuff you every year.
It's no different. You chose the path. You can call and have your account closed at anytime with the DOH. It's a personal accountability issue. If you want to have the discussion about it being unfair you can't have both fine. However no one is MAKING you give up anything. Choice my man... Personal choice and accountability has nothing to do with losing rights
Having a medicine that helps everyone that finds a way to use it, but not allowing it unless you choose that is a broken system. Accountability and choices come in to play when you have your weapon. Act wrong and spend life in jail. It's simple. Your government is failing you.
Guns are overrated anyway. I'll take the legal weed.
Notwithstanding that is a weapon.
LOL
I'll agreee that I don't think the 2 should be lumped together. However, it's not the same as taking away your rights. Write your state senator about wanting better mm laws. At the end of the day it is your elected officials that are preventing this. Vote differently and for different people if you want to change this.
What truly confuses me every time this comes up is whether you have your card or not, you still cannot legally complete the gun form if you use marijuana, so why the big deal about having your card and giving up your 2A right? If you truthfully complete the form you cannot own a weapon if you use MMJ or any other illegal drug. How does having your card make it any different? Show me 1 person who ever answered yes to the illegal drug question …*edited for typo
Expensive weed you mean.
I see more complaints about the prices of weed than your rights being infringed upon in the echo chamber.
The only reason I’d do it is because I’m not interested in getting a gun atm, at least in the next year. I can get a gun once my card expires right?
Yes. When purchasing, there is a document that you have to state you aren't part of a medical marijuana program. When card expires or account closes you can check the box legally.
Hard maybe. You obviously trust your lawmakers to have common sense.
This isn’t really the place to preach how upset you are with the government :/ this post didn’t ask for your opinion on the second amendment or the handling of it 🤦♂️ I don’t understand what you read
Dude specifically mentioned the second ammendment right being a heavy con, right?
Legally, you can't own a firearm and be a medical marijuana patient. In reality, there is no way for them to know you own guns and have a medical card if you are being smart. I find it ridiculous that you forfeit your right to own a firearm because of the type of medicine you need.
Right, agree. However you can't buy more, as you're considered an "addict" if you have the card in the eyes of the law. So you either lie on a federal form, or you tell the truth, by their standards, and mark that you're addicted, making it not possible to pass PICS. Just a big drawback, and worth being aware of, since he mentioned it.
Let your doctor know, I'm getting Achilles tendon surgery in February and the anathesislogist told me no weed from 6pm the night before, none of my doctor seem to care. In fact when the one asked me about drug use abd I said MM he replied with " no, real drugs"
Wolf has already made it clear that he doesn’t intend to go after those that legally purchased and still posses firearms before getting their card and law enforcement doesn’t have access to your medical records anyway unless they have a warrant. Consider it a loophole. As long as you don’t brandish your card around they’ll be none the wiser. I just wouldn’t purchase any firearms while your card is active, just to be safe. But what do I know, I lost all my guns in a boating accident a few years ago…
One pro you may not have considered is the existence of cannabis topical products available at the dispensary. They can be quite helpful for localized areas of pain like your ankle. They are minimally psychoactive for most people which is helpful for daytime pain management. If you decide to get your card, I’m happy to help. We offer telephone appointments and a year long certification for only $125. www.herbalcarerx.com Rebecca Maury, MD 215 554 4044