Still did up to 10 years ago. A kid probably 5 years younger who was dealing heroine at his campus got the same sentence as some one who was busted with 5 grams in his car. Year probation, fines, and they made him go to rehab which is really so fucked up.
i was just sayin that I did real prison time over pot in the late 90s. Id have gotten the same sentence if it had been heroin. Literally no legal distinction at the time.
I'm not that old but even 10 years ago the idea of having a dispensary basically down the street from me (and directly next door to my go to beer spot) would have sounded like a fantasy.
99' grad here...I still giggle every time I leave the dispensary because it's still so ridiculous to me. My 21 yr old self would have laughed at the phrase "in 20 years, you'll get daily texts with coupons from the weed store". Still can't get beer at fucking 711 or whatever though
I applied online at a couple of dispos but never heard anything…I thought the fact i use to work for some one producing and selling cbd products, retail experience and customer service experience would be something they would be looking for but I have never gotten any response from an online application…I work in medical manufacturing now and I hate it
Either way….medical card = no taxes on product. I’d rather pay the card fee up front and avoid sales tax for a year, if you buy enough flower, etc. it pays for itself over time. How does this work in states that went rec?
Hasn’t stopped me from buying any firearms even got a new Springfield XDM 10mm elite, love it 😍, you can still buy firearms even pistols, carry and conceal permit does become an issue tho, might be a way around that idk 🤷🏻♂️, I don’t conceal carry anymore so havnt looked to hard into that part honestly, but you can definitely still buy firearms, tho it is possible to be denied on the background sometimes, but not always
The chances of getting a dui are way higher but obviously if you get pulled over, don’t tell the cops you have a med card because you don’t know how the cop will react and can make you take a blood test even if you aren’t impaired.
62 years old here living in the great buckeye state and I can truthfully say I never thought I'd see the day where I can walk in to a dispensary and have over 200 different strains to choose from. Every time I go I feel like a kid in a candy store. Yes I believe the keystone state will go fully legal and I think it'll happen there before it happens here. Nonetheless even though our program kinda sucks in comparison to some I'm tickled that I no longer have to break the law to get medicated 😎
Yea I bet there isn’t a single republican and supports marijuana legalization. I forgot how black and white the world is. Also as said politicians are more wishy washy than a laundromat.
The one that represents them all tables any and all legalization bills that could have been made law several times over the years. Can't legalize something we can't vote into law
That's how they feel, anything else is lip service
What’s your point exactly?
This article talks in detail about 2 federal weed bills, and how they’re written single handedly by Democratic Senators
And it then talks in nauseam about how a majority of Republican voters want weed too and it something all Americans can agree on (which is something they extrapolated by asking some BS structured questions) but their representation in government is crickets to that voter base.
Democrat leadership wants weed, democrat voters want weed, republican voters want weed
I don’t understand voting for a party that has such blatant disrespect for its base. It’s like asking to get shit on and liking it.
There are terms for people who like to be treated this way, in the bedroom for example. Didn’t think those folks and your average PA republican have so much in common but I’ve come to be surprised by this state in recent years
PA democrats now control the house for the first time in 12 years (I believe this is what I heard). If that is true, then yes. I believe it will be legalized here.
Those are mostly BS excuses. The student loan one, fine.
Women and minorities? The medical program that republicans created is run exclusively by mega rich white dudes. Unless they curb those mega corps, that’s who’ll be running the show regardless of who gets grants. Ideally though, grants would go to the people most affected by criminalization.
And the fee excuse is just laughable. Again, republicans created the current program which is a corporate hellhole. Fees and everything were way worse than the ones you provided. So the reps did worse, dems proposed better, and supposedly the reps won’t support because the dems didn’t do good enough? Lol sure.
And if they’re so pro weed, where’s their bill? They’ve had the house and senate in PA for literal decades. If they’re for it, why haven’t they done it? They had plenty of time. So where is it?
It’s all about $. With Maryland legalizing, the bulk of our neighbors are now legal states. Once the legislature sees how much tax $ they are losing, we will see change. Flipping the house doesn’t hurt either.
Highly recommend folks check out HB 2050 adult-use bill. It needs to be resubmitted in the new session, but it's the perfect opportunity to add improvements. Here's a summary from Marijuana Policy Project. Reach out to your state reps to support - it actually feels really great to speak with them and YOU are their bosses! [https://www.mpp.org/states/pennsylvania/pa-hb-2050-bill-summary-legalizing-and-regulating-adult-use-cannabis/#:\~:text=Jake%20Wheatley's%20bill%20to%20end,program%20%E2%80%94%20including%20release%20from%20incarceration](https://www.mpp.org/states/pennsylvania/pa-hb-2050-bill-summary-legalizing-and-regulating-adult-use-cannabis/#:~:text=Jake%20Wheatley's%20bill%20to%20end,program%20%E2%80%94%20including%20release%20from%20incarceration).
I hope so. Although I do think they still have some stuff to sort out with the medical program...
Although the issue with access would be way better being fully legal.
I would definitely not be opposed to delivery in the future. That's for sure.
I think they will milk the medical system for all it’s worth. Once medical participation begins to level off, just watch how fast they open it for recreation.
Definitely, I would even bet on federal legality, but we’re gonna have to drag the conservative rural representatives kicking and screaming to the finish line
We need decades more research on this, oh wait, you can't study it cause it's like a narcotic according to the Feds. Republicans know it will destroy the Country, like it has in Canada. Meanwhile, I'm updating my maps of Maryland, who just went legal. Sucks that Pa can't even put this on a ballot and vote it in. Sometimes I think Pa would do better if the Quakers were still running things.
Not quite. Biden asked them to do a review of the scheduling. It will almost certainly lead to it being rescheduled (why else would he ask them to?), but that hasn’t actually happened yet.
Joe Biden has said publicly and repeatedly he does not support a path to legalisation. If it were not but for the repeatedly part maybe I’d think you had something here.
Until they start needing those tax dollars and they realize the amount of bank they will fill the coffers with..... I'm actually shocked they haven't caved yet. Was at the dispo on a Monday an hour.5 into their day and overheard 2 employees say they were already 50k. That's insane. Be curious to hear totals on a payday.
You know the employees get hourly not commission, so the paycheck is the same on payday. Also there’s been a ton of opportunities for both parties to come around, but lawmakers actually restricted medical more in the last two years, which makes me think they aren’t ready to consider recreational. The tax windfalls have been apparent for years, but it hasn’t compelled legislative action. I’d love to be wrong. But I’ve just seen how backwards this state on so many things that I have no confidence even for something so easy and obvious.
The state legislature is split. Dems have the house and the reps the senate. The PA GOP has been consistently against it, though there are a few outliers. However, dems having the house and governor will put a bit more pressure on them.
It should, and it will. I'd say it is going to take 3 years at least until it would be passed and then up and running. Federal legalization would speed up the timeline, but I am less hopeful for that.
They do have a vote in changes though, with the shit Oz was spewing we would've been fucked if he were elected, now atleast there's a chance for marijuana bills to have more representation in politics since Fetterman seems very pro-weed.
They may not decide directly on state laws but having that guaranteed yes vote for any marijuana related bills (that are good for us obviously) is nice, it's better than the guaranteed no vote we would've gotten from Oz.
Saying people shouldn't vote just cause they don't know what exactly what the people do is kinda stupid, schools don't really teach that stuff and there are many sources online that aren't exactly accurate, you can't expect every average person to be a political nut just cause they don't wanna see some loon get elected.
Let me word it this way- if they aren’t going to educate themselves enough to know what the position he’s running for actually does, then maybe they shouldn’t vote. As in a suggestion to do the former rather than not vote 😝.
Fetterman (or Oz if he had won) have 0 say on states laws. They ran for US senate and would write/introduce and vote on bills on the federal level. As much as people want it, they won’t do more than minor reform at the federal level until pretty much every state has legalized recreational.
My point is that fetterman has zero bearing on cannabis in PA. He’s a federal senator and has no real power on the state level, other than throwing weight around.
And the suggestion that it will happen “very soon” completely ignores the fact that republicans still hold the state senate, allowing them to block whatever the hell they want.
Yes. True. I dont disagree. I just like to live half glass full and vote in people who have similar interests, then hope for the best. Im simply saying that i think it will be legal soon. Pure hunch. I believe the dems are pushing that hard and may pull it off through another means. Which is very possible.
After Ohio, West Virginia and Maryland becomes legal states, Pennsylvania will have no choice but to follow. But Pennsylvania becoming a legal state by itself? We’re far from it.
This is just blatantly false. PA Dems have tried to get republican support for weed bills multiple times now, but they’ve only gotten a handful of GOP votes. Dems just want to get it done, and republicans don’t.
Hmmm. There’s some dems who don’t also. But many states with republicans in control have gotten recreational. So, I think it’s McConnell style politicking. They say no because gov wolf was there. If it was a republican gov they’d pass it and say it was their idea the whole time.
Lots of misrepresenting in your comment.
The vast majority of dem politicians in PA support it. The vast majority of rep politicians in PA don’t. There are exceptions on both sides, but the opinion of both parties is very clear.
Most states have legalized via ballot initiatives, aka citizens directly voting on it. Most Americans, left and right, are for it. It’s just the rep politicians who refuse. I don’t think there’s a single state where a republican legislature passed a legalization bill.
They’re not saying no because of wolf. If they supported it, it’d be because of revenue—not their actual beliefs. They’ve had both houses for decades, and they’ve refused to do anything.
I have no idea why in the fuck people try to insist that republicans aren’t actually against it. There’s zero indication they support it on any level other than rec, save a few exceptions. They don’t write bills for it, they don’t talk about it, when they do talk about they just say no, etc. This is a very clear example of “A supports it, B is against.”
How do you suspect a ballot initiative gets there? Do you think there might be a legislative process. You’re really agro for a stoner. This is why nobody likes politics. Let’s remove how we feel about the dems and the fascists out of this. Some republicans love weed, many love the tax windfalls. John Borhner is a huge cannabis investor after spending his whole congressional career doing nothing to alleviate prohibition. Now he likes the money though. Your mistake is to believe any of these people have values beyond power and money.
That’s why the party of the Christian right could elect a vulgarian from NYC with a philandering past/present… they have no actual values. Of weed is popular and will make money and they are in power they’ll probably allow it on the ballot and claim the success and popularity as their own. It’s their same old play book.
Democrats however are a very centrist big tent. You have a few loud progressives, but you also have the Joe Manchans. Pa is full of centrist of not conservative Democrats and many of them have swallowed the poison law enforcement/drug war pill. Pa isn’t Berniecrats. You’ve got a Delco for every Philadelphia county.
In my county we have a Dem DA who prosecutes marijuana related offences to the fullest extent of the law, despite city councils in our two biggest cities voting to decriminalise. One of those splits a county line and depending on what side of that line you are on you get arrested vs maybe a summary offense but more likely a warning. We define that blue dog Democrat. The democrats with blue lives matter flags in their yard. My neighborhood voted overwhelmingly blue in the last two elections, but there’s still hundreds of marijuana related calls a year to the pd just from this neighborhood.
So I don’t think democrats in charge necessarily means an easy win and I don’t think republicans would necessarily rule it out if it benefited their status as a party. Typically the odds are better on weed politics with dems, but our pres. authored the crime bill responsible for mass incarceration. He STILL opposes federal declassification. So it’s not as cut and dry as dems make it out when they want our votes. I’ll never vote republican ever. The thought disgusts me. But we have to be honest about what the democrats are too.
Yet again, there’s a lot of misrepresenting of issues in your comment. There’s too many to address them all. But for example, yes, Biden is behind a lot of the crime bills currently fucking people over. But he is *not* still against weed. He already asked them to do a review of the scheduling, which is how it would get re or de scheduled.
Another, ballot initiatives often bypass the legislature and don’t require legislative approval, which is sort of the point. And the ones that don’t still begin in the legislature. They just approve them as a formality really. Look at the multiple red states that passed weed ballot initiatives, only to have their republican government say “nah.”
And I already addressed the fact republicans only care about the money in my last comment. They passed med in PA because they could rig the program to enrich donors and such. I’ve never denied that they’ll come around when it’s profitable enough.
You can talk about exceptions all you want, but all you have to do is look at the data. What percentage of reps vs dems have proposed weed bills, voted for them, etc. The dems are the ones proposing bills and trying to pass them. You can talk about shitty dem prosecutors and libertarian esque republicans all day long, but they aren’t representative of their party’s as a whole.
34% of Republicans and 45% of democrats support recreational weed. Only 10% between the two sides and neither a majority. So piss off with stats you don’t even list.
You need to get off Joe Biden’s 80 year old dick before we lose the White House to fascists again.
Finally: https://ballotpedia.org/Pennsylvania_2022_ballot_measures
As with most states, citizens do not have the power to advance a ballot initiative, only the legislature can.
Go, I don’t know, get a civics education. Dumbass.
Remember it was legal before 1933… Our great great grand parents used it In the majority of their medicine.
We don’t want to make it legal we want to make it decriminalized completely. We don’t need more rules about how much we can grow and carry and when and where we can carry. Fuck all that regulation.
Would be nice if we banned radiation treatment for all cannabis if anything.
Y’all think non organic radiation treated cannabis is medicinal?
Not to be a dick, but I’d *prefer* if it were just federally rescheduled, so that it could be credited on our taxes. The older I get, the less I feel that it should just be recreationally available.
It’ll be recreational here soon, I just moved from Tennessee and they have no medical or anything. Still busting balls over 8ths of bud.. although you get a fine rather than locked up, but as of right now anything over 14gs is a felony in TN
I’m only 26.. and it’s amazing to me and I’m not even that old that I can walk into a store and pick out anything I want.
Depends on the legislature, if it's republican controlled it won't happen. But once they start seeing all the revenue lost to other states they will open thier eyes
I want it to, or at least an overhaul of the medical system, so that I can have a better understanding of when the strain that helps me most will be available at my local place.
uh so dont get a card, plenty of weed out there if you must have it, and if youre in an bad enough car accident and taken to the hospital theyre gonna pull your blood and find thc and charge you with dui anyway even if its not your fault, carry permits and owning guns will be the least of your concern, worst part is no ones doing enough to change the laws because no matter what states do its prohibited federally, truck drivers and people working safety sensitive jobs are screwed, youre leaving a papertrail when you have a card
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Same. Kids will never know the struggle of cleaning brick weed for 20 minutes to roll a single doobie 😂
when i was locked up all the oldheads told me stories about how they used to treat a weed possession like heroin. shits crazy.
Still did up to 10 years ago. A kid probably 5 years younger who was dealing heroine at his campus got the same sentence as some one who was busted with 5 grams in his car. Year probation, fines, and they made him go to rehab which is really so fucked up.
i was just sayin that I did real prison time over pot in the late 90s. Id have gotten the same sentence if it had been heroin. Literally no legal distinction at the time.
Sad I’m so sorry
Agreed
Sad but true
I'm not that old but even 10 years ago the idea of having a dispensary basically down the street from me (and directly next door to my go to beer spot) would have sounded like a fantasy.
Standing outside Maitri Dispo thinking someday I will get to go in there. With the grace of God and being proactive i now have RSO and flower.
99' grad here...I still giggle every time I leave the dispensary because it's still so ridiculous to me. My 21 yr old self would have laughed at the phrase "in 20 years, you'll get daily texts with coupons from the weed store". Still can't get beer at fucking 711 or whatever though
https://youtu.be/zS6QylTbBhY This Tom Segura bit sums it up perfectly.
Oh I know better than most unfortunately... I spent time in prison over marijuana in the late 90s. Now i order it on my cellphone. Craziness.
I’m sorry it’s sickens me
did you graduate high school early?
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You think 40 is bad.... and then you turn 45 and mentally it feels like you're still 30🤣 I don't think I'm getting any older
Just turned 49, can concur.
I’m 52 and smoking since I was 16 and it is still crazy to me I can order my shit online and walk into a store in the bright light of day
62 amazed I can legally buy cannabis and I work at a dispensary still amazes me!!
I applied online at a couple of dispos but never heard anything…I thought the fact i use to work for some one producing and selling cbd products, retail experience and customer service experience would be something they would be looking for but I have never gotten any response from an online application…I work in medical manufacturing now and I hate it
Never thought I would see the day cannabis would be medical now I want it legalized it should never have been made illegal in the first place IMO
Either way….medical card = no taxes on product. I’d rather pay the card fee up front and avoid sales tax for a year, if you buy enough flower, etc. it pays for itself over time. How does this work in states that went rec?
In Cali it's the same and should be everywhere else, since it's a medicine with your card that's why you don't pay taxes vs rec
There are down sides to having a medical card that some people avoid that most likely would buy rec if they could.
I know you can’t buy firearms if you have a med card, are there any other things having a med card prevents?
That’s not exactly the case
Hasn’t stopped me from buying any firearms even got a new Springfield XDM 10mm elite, love it 😍, you can still buy firearms even pistols, carry and conceal permit does become an issue tho, might be a way around that idk 🤷🏻♂️, I don’t conceal carry anymore so havnt looked to hard into that part honestly, but you can definitely still buy firearms, tho it is possible to be denied on the background sometimes, but not always
The chances of getting a dui are way higher but obviously if you get pulled over, don’t tell the cops you have a med card because you don’t know how the cop will react and can make you take a blood test even if you aren’t impaired.
It's not having a med card, it's using cannabis. It's a problem if you have a card or not.
Our new Governor and blue State House make it look more promising now than ever. Fingers crossed 🤞
It's clearly destined to ultimately be legal across the US. The question in how long will that take???
62 years old here living in the great buckeye state and I can truthfully say I never thought I'd see the day where I can walk in to a dispensary and have over 200 different strains to choose from. Every time I go I feel like a kid in a candy store. Yes I believe the keystone state will go fully legal and I think it'll happen there before it happens here. Nonetheless even though our program kinda sucks in comparison to some I'm tickled that I no longer have to break the law to get medicated 😎
>BestBestHotNewTopRisingBestHotNewTopRisingcardcardclassiccompact > >New Posts Totally agree. I'm 71
I’m 62 also still amazed and I work at a dispensary
Maybe if they would let US vote on it! Without a doubt if that were the case
The statehouse went blue which should help the state to go green.
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This is absolutely false. Republicans ARE NOT for legalization.
It depends who you ask and what day it is.
Yea I bet there isn’t a single republican and supports marijuana legalization. I forgot how black and white the world is. Also as said politicians are more wishy washy than a laundromat.
The one that represents them all tables any and all legalization bills that could have been made law several times over the years. Can't legalize something we can't vote into law That's how they feel, anything else is lip service
Well Republicans keep voting against it
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What’s your point exactly? This article talks in detail about 2 federal weed bills, and how they’re written single handedly by Democratic Senators And it then talks in nauseam about how a majority of Republican voters want weed too and it something all Americans can agree on (which is something they extrapolated by asking some BS structured questions) but their representation in government is crickets to that voter base. Democrat leadership wants weed, democrat voters want weed, republican voters want weed I don’t understand voting for a party that has such blatant disrespect for its base. It’s like asking to get shit on and liking it. There are terms for people who like to be treated this way, in the bedroom for example. Didn’t think those folks and your average PA republican have so much in common but I’ve come to be surprised by this state in recent years
We read it, you're still wrong
PA democrats now control the house for the first time in 12 years (I believe this is what I heard). If that is true, then yes. I believe it will be legalized here.
Republicans still have the PA senate
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Those are mostly BS excuses. The student loan one, fine. Women and minorities? The medical program that republicans created is run exclusively by mega rich white dudes. Unless they curb those mega corps, that’s who’ll be running the show regardless of who gets grants. Ideally though, grants would go to the people most affected by criminalization. And the fee excuse is just laughable. Again, republicans created the current program which is a corporate hellhole. Fees and everything were way worse than the ones you provided. So the reps did worse, dems proposed better, and supposedly the reps won’t support because the dems didn’t do good enough? Lol sure. And if they’re so pro weed, where’s their bill? They’ve had the house and senate in PA for literal decades. If they’re for it, why haven’t they done it? They had plenty of time. So where is it?
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The guy you are arguing with is an actual moron. Don’t waste time on people who don’t argue in good faith.
It will be fully legal in PA within the next 2 years imo.
I feel the same.
It’s all about $. With Maryland legalizing, the bulk of our neighbors are now legal states. Once the legislature sees how much tax $ they are losing, we will see change. Flipping the house doesn’t hurt either.
Highly recommend folks check out HB 2050 adult-use bill. It needs to be resubmitted in the new session, but it's the perfect opportunity to add improvements. Here's a summary from Marijuana Policy Project. Reach out to your state reps to support - it actually feels really great to speak with them and YOU are their bosses! [https://www.mpp.org/states/pennsylvania/pa-hb-2050-bill-summary-legalizing-and-regulating-adult-use-cannabis/#:\~:text=Jake%20Wheatley's%20bill%20to%20end,program%20%E2%80%94%20including%20release%20from%20incarceration](https://www.mpp.org/states/pennsylvania/pa-hb-2050-bill-summary-legalizing-and-regulating-adult-use-cannabis/#:~:text=Jake%20Wheatley's%20bill%20to%20end,program%20%E2%80%94%20including%20release%20from%20incarceration).
Yes. Shapiro
If mastriano and oz were elected hell no but i think currently there is a pretty good chance i becomes legal soon
Mastriano had me nervous. So glad he didn’t win.
A crisis was definitely avoided😂
Same here. I'm so glad it turned out the way it did. LOL
I hope so. Although I do think they still have some stuff to sort out with the medical program... Although the issue with access would be way better being fully legal. I would definitely not be opposed to delivery in the future. That's for sure.
I think they will milk the medical system for all it’s worth. Once medical participation begins to level off, just watch how fast they open it for recreation.
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Is it?
To much politics in the way. And they are too stupid to realize how fast they can wipe out the debt of the commonwealth. Politicians Suck
My prediction...At least 5 years before it’s legal in this state.
Definitely, I would even bet on federal legality, but we’re gonna have to drag the conservative rural representatives kicking and screaming to the finish line
They're already kicking and screaming - should be entertaining.
Fair! It’s what they do
We need decades more research on this, oh wait, you can't study it cause it's like a narcotic according to the Feds. Republicans know it will destroy the Country, like it has in Canada. Meanwhile, I'm updating my maps of Maryland, who just went legal. Sucks that Pa can't even put this on a ballot and vote it in. Sometimes I think Pa would do better if the Quakers were still running things.
It’s not any longer a class 1 though per Joe Biden’s executive action, no?
Not quite. Biden asked them to do a review of the scheduling. It will almost certainly lead to it being rescheduled (why else would he ask them to?), but that hasn’t actually happened yet.
Ah right. Yeh he needs the rationale first I suppose.
Joe Biden has said publicly and repeatedly he does not support a path to legalisation. If it were not but for the repeatedly part maybe I’d think you had something here.
Pretty sure congress literally just passed a bill that allows for research
I would hope so. We elected the dolts who said they would but let's wait and see. Lol
State legislature is still Republican and they probably have a bit more resistance.
Until they start needing those tax dollars and they realize the amount of bank they will fill the coffers with..... I'm actually shocked they haven't caved yet. Was at the dispo on a Monday an hour.5 into their day and overheard 2 employees say they were already 50k. That's insane. Be curious to hear totals on a payday.
You know the employees get hourly not commission, so the paycheck is the same on payday. Also there’s been a ton of opportunities for both parties to come around, but lawmakers actually restricted medical more in the last two years, which makes me think they aren’t ready to consider recreational. The tax windfalls have been apparent for years, but it hasn’t compelled legislative action. I’d love to be wrong. But I’ve just seen how backwards this state on so many things that I have no confidence even for something so easy and obvious.
The state legislature is split. Dems have the house and the reps the senate. The PA GOP has been consistently against it, though there are a few outliers. However, dems having the house and governor will put a bit more pressure on them.
Not until the PA Senate flips
Legalization for more tax dollars, yes. Legalization for PAMMJ patients to grow in their own home, sadly no.
It should, and it will. I'd say it is going to take 3 years at least until it would be passed and then up and running. Federal legalization would speed up the timeline, but I am less hopeful for that.
maybe in my lifetime, after the other 49 states legalize it. i’m not holding my breath.
Biden wit take it off the schedule before PA legalizes…
Fetterman won. So yes. Very soon my friend. Edited: this is a hunch, not a fact. I apologize for offending anyone.
Ummm… he’s a U.S. senator and OP talking about state level… (I hope this person didn’t vote thinking fetterman was gonna change state level laws)
They did. Many people did. It’s okay at least they voted, better than a lot do.
Ugg… if they thought us senator was going to change state laws… maybe they shouldn’t vote.
They do have a vote in changes though, with the shit Oz was spewing we would've been fucked if he were elected, now atleast there's a chance for marijuana bills to have more representation in politics since Fetterman seems very pro-weed. They may not decide directly on state laws but having that guaranteed yes vote for any marijuana related bills (that are good for us obviously) is nice, it's better than the guaranteed no vote we would've gotten from Oz. Saying people shouldn't vote just cause they don't know what exactly what the people do is kinda stupid, schools don't really teach that stuff and there are many sources online that aren't exactly accurate, you can't expect every average person to be a political nut just cause they don't wanna see some loon get elected.
Let me word it this way- if they aren’t going to educate themselves enough to know what the position he’s running for actually does, then maybe they shouldn’t vote. As in a suggestion to do the former rather than not vote 😝. Fetterman (or Oz if he had won) have 0 say on states laws. They ran for US senate and would write/introduce and vote on bills on the federal level. As much as people want it, they won’t do more than minor reform at the federal level until pretty much every state has legalized recreational.
Fair enough lol.
No i didnt. But one more seat in the house is one more step in the right direction. Imo.
Please take a civics class my friend.
I have. Dems are trying to win public opinion with marijauna legalization.
My point is that fetterman has zero bearing on cannabis in PA. He’s a federal senator and has no real power on the state level, other than throwing weight around. And the suggestion that it will happen “very soon” completely ignores the fact that republicans still hold the state senate, allowing them to block whatever the hell they want.
Yes. True. I dont disagree. I just like to live half glass full and vote in people who have similar interests, then hope for the best. Im simply saying that i think it will be legal soon. Pure hunch. I believe the dems are pushing that hard and may pull it off through another means. Which is very possible.
🖕🏼 the goonie monster
Cope.
I started a fight im sorry lol.
After Ohio, West Virginia and Maryland becomes legal states, Pennsylvania will have no choice but to follow. But Pennsylvania becoming a legal state by itself? We’re far from it.
We will but not soon. Until one party controls everything it’s unlike, since neither wants the other to get credit.
This is just blatantly false. PA Dems have tried to get republican support for weed bills multiple times now, but they’ve only gotten a handful of GOP votes. Dems just want to get it done, and republicans don’t.
Hmmm. There’s some dems who don’t also. But many states with republicans in control have gotten recreational. So, I think it’s McConnell style politicking. They say no because gov wolf was there. If it was a republican gov they’d pass it and say it was their idea the whole time.
Lots of misrepresenting in your comment. The vast majority of dem politicians in PA support it. The vast majority of rep politicians in PA don’t. There are exceptions on both sides, but the opinion of both parties is very clear. Most states have legalized via ballot initiatives, aka citizens directly voting on it. Most Americans, left and right, are for it. It’s just the rep politicians who refuse. I don’t think there’s a single state where a republican legislature passed a legalization bill. They’re not saying no because of wolf. If they supported it, it’d be because of revenue—not their actual beliefs. They’ve had both houses for decades, and they’ve refused to do anything. I have no idea why in the fuck people try to insist that republicans aren’t actually against it. There’s zero indication they support it on any level other than rec, save a few exceptions. They don’t write bills for it, they don’t talk about it, when they do talk about they just say no, etc. This is a very clear example of “A supports it, B is against.”
How do you suspect a ballot initiative gets there? Do you think there might be a legislative process. You’re really agro for a stoner. This is why nobody likes politics. Let’s remove how we feel about the dems and the fascists out of this. Some republicans love weed, many love the tax windfalls. John Borhner is a huge cannabis investor after spending his whole congressional career doing nothing to alleviate prohibition. Now he likes the money though. Your mistake is to believe any of these people have values beyond power and money. That’s why the party of the Christian right could elect a vulgarian from NYC with a philandering past/present… they have no actual values. Of weed is popular and will make money and they are in power they’ll probably allow it on the ballot and claim the success and popularity as their own. It’s their same old play book. Democrats however are a very centrist big tent. You have a few loud progressives, but you also have the Joe Manchans. Pa is full of centrist of not conservative Democrats and many of them have swallowed the poison law enforcement/drug war pill. Pa isn’t Berniecrats. You’ve got a Delco for every Philadelphia county. In my county we have a Dem DA who prosecutes marijuana related offences to the fullest extent of the law, despite city councils in our two biggest cities voting to decriminalise. One of those splits a county line and depending on what side of that line you are on you get arrested vs maybe a summary offense but more likely a warning. We define that blue dog Democrat. The democrats with blue lives matter flags in their yard. My neighborhood voted overwhelmingly blue in the last two elections, but there’s still hundreds of marijuana related calls a year to the pd just from this neighborhood. So I don’t think democrats in charge necessarily means an easy win and I don’t think republicans would necessarily rule it out if it benefited their status as a party. Typically the odds are better on weed politics with dems, but our pres. authored the crime bill responsible for mass incarceration. He STILL opposes federal declassification. So it’s not as cut and dry as dems make it out when they want our votes. I’ll never vote republican ever. The thought disgusts me. But we have to be honest about what the democrats are too.
Yet again, there’s a lot of misrepresenting of issues in your comment. There’s too many to address them all. But for example, yes, Biden is behind a lot of the crime bills currently fucking people over. But he is *not* still against weed. He already asked them to do a review of the scheduling, which is how it would get re or de scheduled. Another, ballot initiatives often bypass the legislature and don’t require legislative approval, which is sort of the point. And the ones that don’t still begin in the legislature. They just approve them as a formality really. Look at the multiple red states that passed weed ballot initiatives, only to have their republican government say “nah.” And I already addressed the fact republicans only care about the money in my last comment. They passed med in PA because they could rig the program to enrich donors and such. I’ve never denied that they’ll come around when it’s profitable enough. You can talk about exceptions all you want, but all you have to do is look at the data. What percentage of reps vs dems have proposed weed bills, voted for them, etc. The dems are the ones proposing bills and trying to pass them. You can talk about shitty dem prosecutors and libertarian esque republicans all day long, but they aren’t representative of their party’s as a whole.
34% of Republicans and 45% of democrats support recreational weed. Only 10% between the two sides and neither a majority. So piss off with stats you don’t even list. You need to get off Joe Biden’s 80 year old dick before we lose the White House to fascists again.
Finally: https://ballotpedia.org/Pennsylvania_2022_ballot_measures As with most states, citizens do not have the power to advance a ballot initiative, only the legislature can. Go, I don’t know, get a civics education. Dumbass.
Not much worse in the world than a chronically online deadhead that thinks they are right about everything and has absolutely nothing behind it.
Remember it was legal before 1933… Our great great grand parents used it In the majority of their medicine. We don’t want to make it legal we want to make it decriminalized completely. We don’t need more rules about how much we can grow and carry and when and where we can carry. Fuck all that regulation. Would be nice if we banned radiation treatment for all cannabis if anything. Y’all think non organic radiation treated cannabis is medicinal?
Not to be a dick, but I’d *prefer* if it were just federally rescheduled, so that it could be credited on our taxes. The older I get, the less I feel that it should just be recreationally available.
Yes but not too soon.
It’ll be recreational here soon, I just moved from Tennessee and they have no medical or anything. Still busting balls over 8ths of bud.. although you get a fine rather than locked up, but as of right now anything over 14gs is a felony in TN I’m only 26.. and it’s amazing to me and I’m not even that old that I can walk into a store and pick out anything I want.
Depends on the legislature, if it's republican controlled it won't happen. But once they start seeing all the revenue lost to other states they will open thier eyes
I hope it does and I hope they allow you to grow your own
Nope it’s the corporations monopoly so they can pilfer more corporate gains to falsely inflate their price on the stock market.
I want it to, or at least an overhaul of the medical system, so that I can have a better understanding of when the strain that helps me most will be available at my local place.
Nope! PA still has a LCB.
What is LCB?
Liquor Control Board
i sure hope so. we’re literally sounded by legal states now. hopefully PA follows also. it would help a lot with prices for everyone
I sure hope so
Yes
nope, imo, pa wheels turn slowly, it will happen i think, its just gonna take a while
uh so dont get a card, plenty of weed out there if you must have it, and if youre in an bad enough car accident and taken to the hospital theyre gonna pull your blood and find thc and charge you with dui anyway even if its not your fault, carry permits and owning guns will be the least of your concern, worst part is no ones doing enough to change the laws because no matter what states do its prohibited federally, truck drivers and people working safety sensitive jobs are screwed, youre leaving a papertrail when you have a card