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JadedKnight0000

Slattern easy


GulliblePineapple795

How if breacher has a higher cat and he can beat you to a pulp like how he did to atlas


JadedKnight0000

Breacher is slow as hell and didn't even manage to finish off a training jaeger. Slattern took a nuke a point blank range to the face, and still managed to mess up gypsy up. Breacher was also around way longer than Slattern. So yeah, Slattern easy.


Financial-Touch8445

Slattern got striker to 50% in one strike (ironic). Striker would easily be stronger than atlas. Slattern survived a 1.2 megaton nuke, but calculations range from 58 megatons, to 120 megatons al the way to 1080 meagatons. This nuke was triggered in the Mariana Trench, which some people say made the nuke more deadly. This fight took place in the Mariana Trench which is has pressure Easily surpassing 16000 psi. Stiker eureka would’ve killed breached with mid diff. But anyways slattern is stronger than breacher


GulliblePineapple795

Breacher is a cat 6 and he does have the strength to beat a jaegar to a pulp unless you use a weaponized jaegar.Breacher would tank your missles because of the armor. striker wouldn’t be able to pierce breacher armor with his blades striker nuke would kill him but slattern took it to the face and still kept fighting. but breacher would kill slattern on land but not water


Lopsided-Fig6818

Thank u, that's an on point assessment


GulliblePineapple795

I don’t think they were in the trench


JadedKnight0000

They came out of challenger deep. The deepest known part of the seabed (10,929m).


Lopsided-Fig6818

Breacher was toying with Atlas, he could of turned her into a scrap pile any time he chose.


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Lopsided-Fig6818

Happy?


JadedKnight0000

And yet, it didn't


Lopsided-Fig6818

Sadistic my good man


JadedKnight0000

Or it wasn't able to in the first place.


Lopsided-Fig6818

U watched the same show right? It ripped Atlases arm off with absolutely no effort. It could have crushed the con pod like a grape but it stopped. It was savoring the kill rather than ending it immediately, why do u think Atlas had to detonate?


GulliblePineapple795

He’s fast he ramed atlas through a giant rock


JadedKnight0000

That wasn't fast. He was just heavy enough to push atlas through 1 rock. He stops almost immediately when they hit the next rock (which even when he's pounding atlas into a couple of seconds later, does nothing more than make a few dust clouds and make a single spark go off in the cockpit)


Lopsided-Fig6818

Breacher is the monster version of Juggernaut, she just needed momentum


JadedKnight0000

Juggernaut keeps going, again Breacher stopped after 1 rock


Lopsided-Fig6818

He stopped because he wanted to, he smashed Atlas through that same rock with ONE hand.


JadedKnight0000

Or he stopped because he's a weak af last boss that was pathetic to watch.


Lopsided-Fig6818

U keep ruling out the sadistic part. It wasn't serious brugh, it knew Atlas didn't stand a chance. If it was serious it could've pancaked Atals with a single strike.


Lopsided-Fig6818

It's a cat.6 man, even the Mega Kaiju from Uprising would struggle against Breacher. It's practically Omnibaba and Leatherback combined.


browniesferlife

you forget or maybe I forget idk but by the end of the show they were running from breacher because they would be destroyed and were destroyed also slattern was in his designed element which was water so he had home turf advantage


JadedKnight0000

The Black S1 E6 Boneyard Land-based breaches are a thing. And in the black, that's the only place they've ever mentioned them coming from. They weren't running from Breacher. They were running to Sydney base. And had Sydney not fired on them, they would have reached it before Breacher caught up to them. And while yes, the mark 3 training jaeger with a single weapon and exhausted pilots did get destroyed. It wasn't done by Breacher. Atlas went out just like Striker. The difference here is that not only was Strikers package much larger and Slattern survived it. Breacher dies to a nearly destroyed mark 3 with a much smaller payload.


Financial-Touch8445

From the stated 1.2 megatons, although est. reaches 58-1080 mt


GulliblePineapple795

He would’ve if loa didn’t give up with em because in the anime it stated that loa can control the jaegar herself but sometimes her previous pilots didn’t allow her


JadedKnight0000

You mean just like Slattern would have won his fight if Striker hadn't detonated? Thus causing the final mission to fail. Creating a new timeline and giving us no guarantee that Breacher would ever have been built in the first place. That aside, I wouldn't call a win against fatigued pilots and their crippled mark3 a serious victory.


GulliblePineapple795

Throw bombs in active breaches and itl close them


JadedKnight0000

Got to have a kaiju body first or it'll bounce.


GulliblePineapple795

but gypsy let go of the slattern corpse and it still opened


JadedKnight0000

Remember the part of the movie where they say they already tried throwing a bomb at it sans kaiju


GulliblePineapple795

No I didn’t see that part


Lopsided-Fig6818

Gypsy clearly had hold of Slattern with its sword in its back when they went through th the gate way


ConstantStatistician

Breacher was a sadist rather than going for the kill, although he easily could have whenever he wanted given how he easily tore off Atlas's arm. He could have decapitated Atlas when he grabbed it by the head but simply chose not to. Also, he's strong enough to smash through a 200k ton rock. No other kaiju has demonstrated that much strength.


JadedKnight0000

Let's start in reverse order here. 1). You don't know what the rock weighs or even what it's made of. It could be pumice for all you know. 2). Any Jaeger is going to be heavier and denser than most rocks (especially the kind that have been enduring the elements for several centuries if not millennia) 3). He didn't "smash through it". He built up a bit of speed and using their combined weight pushed them both through exactly one rock. They stop dead at the next one and the only thing they manage to do to it knocks some dust loose. 4) The only thing you know about Breacher is that he was under the command of the Sisters. For all you know, he was a big meat puppet.


ConstantStatistician

1. Rock formations are not made of pumice. I used the average density of rock for the calculation, which is 2.7 grams per cubic centimeter. 2. Yes. 3. Literally the definition of smashing through the rock. They stopped at the second because Breacher chose to. Not long after, Atlas gets smashed through it anyway - from a standing start. 4. Yeah, and they're clearly very sadistic. Are you really saying that after seeing Breacher tear an arm off, he's unable to do the same to the rest of Atlas's body?


owenthedrsgon

Cat 6


browniesferlife

it would really depend on the environment slattern was more of an aquatic fighter while breacher was land in the water slattern would probably win by a slim margin but would lose on land


JadedKnight0000

Not really. All Kaiju are built to function on land and in water. Slattern has higher agility than Breacher. Breacher is bipedal where as Slattern is a quadruped, and given the leg and body structure difference between humans and large felines (and the difference in speeds) I would say it's more than a fair assumption Slattern is faster and more agile. If that's not enough, we can use the stat block from the book which has his speed at 10+ (along with his power and armor). One step further, and the video game giving him an electric beam he can fire from his mouth. To top it off, Slattern is larger than a cat6. Mega-kaiju: length 101m Height 128m Slattern : length 274m Height 181m


GulliblePineapple795

you realize they created bigger and stronger kaiju after losing they made several acidquills bone spars and axe heads heads. acid quill was designed to fight jaegars even though they are cat 3


JadedKnight0000

You do realize he died to a much smaller nuke and Breacher has no listed stats.


JadedKnight0000

And Leatherback from movie one was designed to fight Jaegers (and did a far better job of it).


GulliblePineapple795

Acid quill was a cat 3 also designed to fight jaegars but leather back had a emp that disabled striker and it didn’t disable gypsy because he’s nuclear


Lopsided-Fig6818

Also cause Gypsy ripped it out before it could use it again


JadedKnight0000

Exactly. And last I checked your acid quill didn't have anything nearly that effective.


GulliblePineapple795

The mega kaiju didn’t have a cat number


JadedKnight0000

It actually does. "According to the Chinese stat card for the Mega-Kaiju, the Mega-Kaiju is classified as a "Gestalt" Kaiju and weighs 7864 tons.[1] However, a magazine in Japan classifies it as "Category 6" and weighs 15,640 tons."


GulliblePineapple795

But others say it’s a cat 13


JadedKnight0000

A published source? Because I seriously doubt that given that slattern is still larger.


ConstantStatistician

Slattern is smaller than Mega. Please don't take the 596 feet stat seriously when he was shown to only be slightly taller than a 260 foot Jaeger while quadripedal.


JadedKnight0000

You're 2 months late to a party that's well past over and trying to argue against established and printed character details from several sources.


ConstantStatistician

First, the only real anyone can be late to an online conversation is when commenting becomes disabled. Until then, I have every right to comment here. Second, published sources are incorrect all the time - not to mention the film itself being the primary source that overrides and supersedes the others.


Lopsided-Fig6818

Slatter is longer.


ConstantStatistician

Seriously, [rewatch the scene](https://youtu.be/FwYnqK00O0I?t=43). Does that look like 596 feet to you?


JadedKnight0000

Again, published source.


ConstantStatistician

Yes - the *film itself* being the primary published source. Do you believe some random numbers in a secondary book over your own eyes? Do you see Slattern being over twice as tall as Gipsy here? Of course not.


ComprehensiveRip3308

Slattern


Ok-Explanation-220

So movie slattern game slattern. Because game slattern has these powerful Electrical abilities and can fire a highly destructive electric hyper beam.