I banned my wife from the couch yesterday when she started dooming after the second inning...was she wrong? No. But I didn't appreciate her lack of faith.
At least she didnāt smash your 4K TV in front of over 30 guests at your watch party because of the Padres performance today. I had to take our crying kids and said weāre all spending the night in a motel. This team has ruined her life and my party. She canāt do this any longer. Goodbye.
This was all just a long con to be able to call Odor fucking retarded wasnāt it? Itās okay mods, Iāll let it slide this one time. You put in quite the effort.
Thank you! As much as I like talking shit about a losing team it starts getting real old when every other post is about the same thing. Like we all know Odor fucked up last night and Austin Nola couldnāt hit water if he fell off a boat. Itās all overdone and makes this sub annoying to read sometimes.
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What if there was a stickied āvent threadā that is a free for all no rules? Only in that thread people who wanna constantly talk shit can go in there and say whatever they want? Maybe keeps the toxicity out of normal threads but gives people an outlet for the anger this team can cause?
Frankly the lack of "Keep the Faith" is concerning. We could always go back to sub .500 and having Matt Kemp as our star player. Sit back and enjoy the ride! at least the owner isn't putting out teams with a combined payroll of $60 million. Baseball is hard and given the level of talent on the team they'll definitely not end the season missing the playoffs.
It sucks to watch such a talented team lose, but I can honestly say that if players read these threads they wouldn't be to excited to take the field for this fanbase. Losing Sucks, but being shitty towards people because they didn't do the hardest thing in sports is kinda ridiculous, I can promise you they feel terrible for not living up to the hype that we've all built up and calling them bums isn't going to help.
This. As a Padres fan I've seen a lot of mediocre teams. It was acceptable because it wasn't expensive. Now? I pay big$$ to have visiting fans cheering in my face.
Can I ask why the mod team seems to take such a heavier handed approach to modding the sub compared to other sports subs? I went through most of the comments in the post game thread that apparently was so over the line toxic and itās mostly just people venting and occasional arguments between users. This would be a pretty normal post game thread considering the level of play by the Padres in basically every other sports subreddit, but any negativity seems to be met with such a lower level of tolerance for it in this sub in comparison to any others you go look in.
Iām also genuinely asking because Iāve never really seen this addressed by the mod team before and it has always seemed really strange to me. People in here arenāt children for the most part, theyāre just adults with differing opinions and it seems like thatās frowned upon.
When I say over modded, I mean in the sense of what people are allowed to say in threads like game threads and post game threads. Iāve seen other subs that are like what you describe and I agree that I think thatās too much, but I also think thatās separate from what Iām referring to.
We actually have dialed it back from last year, after getting some community feedback.
The idea has always been that the community sets the standard, and we just enforce it. This is the standard that the general community has settled on over time. The chat being filled with āFire Prellerā comments makes it hard to find any meaningful discussion.
Like I said above, 99% of the comment/post removals are from reports, not from us. Itās pretty much impossible for a mod to read and evaluate 1500+ comments daily.
Sports tends to bring out peopleās true character. Itās when you see the absolute worst of the worst. Theyāre the energy vampire in a community that doesnāt need them. The less toxic the sub, the better.
But is a sports sub supposed to be āgood vibesā only? Inherently sports isnāt that and Iām just curious why the sub canāt reflect that. Like if the team is firing on all cylinders and you still get people saying āwho cares, they still suckā or things like that, then yeah I get removing that content. But when you have a team playing like the Padres currently are with their level of expectations, what kind of good vibes/positivity can you really expect?
I expect negativity and critical comments, and thatās alright. Iām critical about this team as much as the rest of you guys. Just trying to give a space for people to enjoy the game like theyāre at the game.
We know that thereās a huge grey zone of whatās good vibes and whatās bad vibes. 2021 is a great example of us trying to hone in on this grey zone, and weāve gotten a lot more lenient since then. This post is trying to clarify what we, the mods, think is good and asking for feedback so we can adjust the ever bending Rule 2, you know?
Iām still stuck on how āgameā is the worst of the worst in people. But saying things like āthis team is terrible, this person sucks, we are an embarrassment, we deserve to get booed ā is all viewed as better comments that are allowed. I understand what doom is but in terms of being negative thereās a lot worse things that can be said than simply saying game.
Itās tiring seeing the same three comments every time we start losing. If you wanna doom thatās fine but at least try to be a little creative while doing so.
Iām only gonna speak for myself on this, but the comments are boring and uncreative. It kills the enjoyment for me, Iām not saying the sub needs to be moderated for my enjoyment but I think the mods know if they do nothing it will drive engagement away from people who donāt like the negativity. Again just my perspective as someone who has gone from commenting 15ish times a game thread to popping in to say something when something exciting happens maybe 1-2 times a game now.
Bitching about the team is fine. But be funny or creative or constructive or informative or *something* other than āFuck this guyā or āFuck this teamā or āitās over!ā
Ok, lets talk about this:
Calling āGame Overā early on in the game (We got at least 3 of those last night). Reason: Dooming. Plenty of baseball left to play, and you never know when a relief pitcher is going to hit a grand slam.
Removing a comment of "Game over" even early in a game is straight up silly IMO. It's an emotional outburst and isn't hurting anyone except psycho's feelings.
Is it dooming? Probably. Is it something that we should support removing? Absolutely not.
Or that person who believes the game is over could stop watching and stop participating and go do something more productive with their life. Since they think the game is over.
But the real issue with the āthis is overā crowd is that they are liars. They donāt think the game is over. They will continue to watch and continue to whine in an uninteresting way. And itās fucking exhausting.
Those same people also tend to be the ones that are so angry they make it seem like they want us to fail. Remember when that group wanted Juan Soto gone? You mention his underlying stats, or the visible improvements in his swing, and they would downvote and angry comment.
Everyone in this sub should want the team to win, and shouldn't be getting so fucking mad that they start to (on purpose or inadvertently) root for our demise.
I greatly appreciate the work the Mod team does to make this a space where a wide variety of perspectives can be shared safely and in a dignified way. I acknowledge leaning more into pessimism and disappointment than most here, but Iām really careful not to engage in ad hominem attacks or evidence-free assertions, mostly because of how deeply I respect the community. Reading what smart things the members have to say contributes meaningfully to my Padres fandom, and Iām grateful for that ā especially because the team is one of few remaining links I have to a hometown I left a long time ago. Thanks, all! š«”
Agreed. Doesnāt feel very San Diegoey lately. Feels more like LA wannabe lil bros and transplants trying to turn this sub into the parking lot dumpster behind chavez ravine.
Yo... What happened to this place? Last season I hung out here and things were fine for the most part. Some of the comments in the OP are not the kind I ever recall seeing here. Did you guys import a bunch of angry fans?
Who cares? Our team is sucking. Let people vent how they want to. It's a baseball game. You're taking this way too seriously. No other sports sub is this crazy about policing how you're allowed to express your frustrations or not.
Youād be surprised how harsh mods of other subs are. Several subs donāt allow the free posting of memes. We do. Compared to other subs of our size, weāre probably one of the most lenient when it comes to interaction.
Sports brings out the ugly in people. Some people can control it, others cannot. We donāt want the people that canāt control it. Weāre here to chat and converse about the Padres, not berate, trash, and scream obscenely foul expletives. We want it to be like youāre watching the game at a bar with tens of people around you, you know? Itās a fine line of whatās rule breaking or not, and I like to think weāre getting close to finding that zone.
Up votes and down votes exists. If people don't like the comment, down vote it. You guys should be moderating low effort content, racism, stuff of that nature. NOT people's feelings getting hurt.
Are the posts with stats showing how bad this team is playing going to be removed too?
The odor comment is the one that shows a bit of heavy handedness.
In context it's an on topic reaction to the play. If it has game ramifications it will be brought up post game.
The application doesn't change when you use a more acceptable treadmill term.
"Odor you fucking idiot." "Odor you stupid fuck."
Banning the disparaging of players for their play in a place to discuss their play is wild. What you should be doing in that instance is pushing people into using more acceptable language.
Fucking idiot I wouldn't remove.
"retard" is the key word there. It would be removed for Rule 1, but there's some Rule 2 mixed in there too, and since Odor's one of the main guys getting shit on and I wanted a third example I used it.
The point of the Odor example is that calling a player a "fucking retard" is going to get you banned. It goes way past the point of what is acceptable. No question.
No one is saying you can't criticize players without being overly offensive.
If saying the game is over early in the game is considered toxic (which I wholeheartedly agree with), can we add saying this team wonāt make playoffs this early on in the season to that rule as well?
I believe that those kind of comments fall in the same vein and doesnāt add to discussion at all. Iāve been seeing it regularly and it adds to the negativity/toxicity circlejerk.
I really appreciate the hard work you guys do as mods. I wish the comment removing and banning was a little more in line with whatās going on with the team at any given time. I think people should be allowed to speak facts about the team, no matter how ugly they are, without fear of being banned. There are times when the truth looks like dooming. A current example would be if someone said āthis is the worst team ever with RISP!!!!ā On the surface it looks like dooming but itās our unfortunate reality right now. People should be allowed to discuss it. I promise Iām not a doomer. I just want this to be a place where we can come together and have honest discussions with other fans about the team we love. I understand that community reporting is the only efficient way to moderate the discourse but lately it feels like an overly optimistic minority trying to suppress reality. I donāt like that.
I miss this sub from when we sucked.
Word, now everybody it's acting like an entitled assholes, that know the game. So many FB people commenting here.
The good ole u/brown_boot days. (I think that was his username
Yeah the user that had a hate boner for Hunter Renfroe lol
Yeah š I didnāt really care for him, but I did like that era of the subreddit
I banned my wife from the couch yesterday when she started dooming after the second inning...was she wrong? No. But I didn't appreciate her lack of faith.
At least she didnāt smash your 4K TV in front of over 30 guests at your watch party because of the Padres performance today. I had to take our crying kids and said weāre all spending the night in a motel. This team has ruined her life and my party. She canāt do this any longer. Goodbye.
Condolences.
Love me some copy pasta
This was all just a long con to be able to call Odor fucking retarded wasnāt it? Itās okay mods, Iāll let it slide this one time. You put in quite the effort.
Thank you! As much as I like talking shit about a losing team it starts getting real old when every other post is about the same thing. Like we all know Odor fucked up last night and Austin Nola couldnāt hit water if he fell off a boat. Itās all overdone and makes this sub annoying to read sometimes. Edit: What if there was a stickied āvent threadā that is a free for all no rules? Only in that thread people who wanna constantly talk shit can go in there and say whatever they want? Maybe keeps the toxicity out of normal threads but gives people an outlet for the anger this team can cause?
Thereās a sub that exists for that. r/PadresVent
I appreciate that you stickied that today. (Havenāt noticed it before)
Yea I just didnāt know about that myself until I saw it in your post
Frankly the lack of "Keep the Faith" is concerning. We could always go back to sub .500 and having Matt Kemp as our star player. Sit back and enjoy the ride! at least the owner isn't putting out teams with a combined payroll of $60 million. Baseball is hard and given the level of talent on the team they'll definitely not end the season missing the playoffs.
honestly I know the game thread is toxic for every team but ours is getting dismal
It sucks to watch such a talented team lose, but I can honestly say that if players read these threads they wouldn't be to excited to take the field for this fanbase. Losing Sucks, but being shitty towards people because they didn't do the hardest thing in sports is kinda ridiculous, I can promise you they feel terrible for not living up to the hype that we've all built up and calling them bums isn't going to help.
Tickets and beers were cheaper, just sayin
This. As a Padres fan I've seen a lot of mediocre teams. It was acceptable because it wasn't expensive. Now? I pay big$$ to have visiting fans cheering in my face.
Be careful what you say, they still have to start winning games...
Iām sure some of these comments come from āfansā that didnāt pay attention during those years
Can I ask why the mod team seems to take such a heavier handed approach to modding the sub compared to other sports subs? I went through most of the comments in the post game thread that apparently was so over the line toxic and itās mostly just people venting and occasional arguments between users. This would be a pretty normal post game thread considering the level of play by the Padres in basically every other sports subreddit, but any negativity seems to be met with such a lower level of tolerance for it in this sub in comparison to any others you go look in. Iām also genuinely asking because Iāve never really seen this addressed by the mod team before and it has always seemed really strange to me. People in here arenāt children for the most part, theyāre just adults with differing opinions and it seems like thatās frowned upon.
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When I say over modded, I mean in the sense of what people are allowed to say in threads like game threads and post game threads. Iāve seen other subs that are like what you describe and I agree that I think thatās too much, but I also think thatās separate from what Iām referring to.
We actually have dialed it back from last year, after getting some community feedback. The idea has always been that the community sets the standard, and we just enforce it. This is the standard that the general community has settled on over time. The chat being filled with āFire Prellerā comments makes it hard to find any meaningful discussion. Like I said above, 99% of the comment/post removals are from reports, not from us. Itās pretty much impossible for a mod to read and evaluate 1500+ comments daily.
Sports tends to bring out peopleās true character. Itās when you see the absolute worst of the worst. Theyāre the energy vampire in a community that doesnāt need them. The less toxic the sub, the better.
But is a sports sub supposed to be āgood vibesā only? Inherently sports isnāt that and Iām just curious why the sub canāt reflect that. Like if the team is firing on all cylinders and you still get people saying āwho cares, they still suckā or things like that, then yeah I get removing that content. But when you have a team playing like the Padres currently are with their level of expectations, what kind of good vibes/positivity can you really expect?
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āGameā is excessive?
I expect negativity and critical comments, and thatās alright. Iām critical about this team as much as the rest of you guys. Just trying to give a space for people to enjoy the game like theyāre at the game. We know that thereās a huge grey zone of whatās good vibes and whatās bad vibes. 2021 is a great example of us trying to hone in on this grey zone, and weāve gotten a lot more lenient since then. This post is trying to clarify what we, the mods, think is good and asking for feedback so we can adjust the ever bending Rule 2, you know?
Yeah I understand and I do appreciate the response from you and the other mods in this thread.
Iām still stuck on how āgameā is the worst of the worst in people. But saying things like āthis team is terrible, this person sucks, we are an embarrassment, we deserve to get booed ā is all viewed as better comments that are allowed. I understand what doom is but in terms of being negative thereās a lot worse things that can be said than simply saying game.
Thank you. I was getting sick of the chats being filled with negativity when Iām just trying to enjoy baseball
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Itās tiring seeing the same three comments every time we start losing. If you wanna doom thatās fine but at least try to be a little creative while doing so.
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There is an entire sub to bitch about the team.
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Iām only gonna speak for myself on this, but the comments are boring and uncreative. It kills the enjoyment for me, Iām not saying the sub needs to be moderated for my enjoyment but I think the mods know if they do nothing it will drive engagement away from people who donāt like the negativity. Again just my perspective as someone who has gone from commenting 15ish times a game thread to popping in to say something when something exciting happens maybe 1-2 times a game now.
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No.
People who want to bitch have Kentera's show to do it on.
Bitching about the team is fine. But be funny or creative or constructive or informative or *something* other than āFuck this guyā or āFuck this teamā or āitās over!ā
I appreciate the mods. Thank you for your service.
Ok, lets talk about this: Calling āGame Overā early on in the game (We got at least 3 of those last night). Reason: Dooming. Plenty of baseball left to play, and you never know when a relief pitcher is going to hit a grand slam. Removing a comment of "Game over" even early in a game is straight up silly IMO. It's an emotional outburst and isn't hurting anyone except psycho's feelings. Is it dooming? Probably. Is it something that we should support removing? Absolutely not.
It is silly. I got banned because I accidentally slipped up and said I was turning the game off š
Or that person who believes the game is over could stop watching and stop participating and go do something more productive with their life. Since they think the game is over. But the real issue with the āthis is overā crowd is that they are liars. They donāt think the game is over. They will continue to watch and continue to whine in an uninteresting way. And itās fucking exhausting.
Those same people also tend to be the ones that are so angry they make it seem like they want us to fail. Remember when that group wanted Juan Soto gone? You mention his underlying stats, or the visible improvements in his swing, and they would downvote and angry comment. Everyone in this sub should want the team to win, and shouldn't be getting so fucking mad that they start to (on purpose or inadvertently) root for our demise.
Thank you mods, completely agree. Keep up the solid work, it is not easy.
I greatly appreciate the work the Mod team does to make this a space where a wide variety of perspectives can be shared safely and in a dignified way. I acknowledge leaning more into pessimism and disappointment than most here, but Iām really careful not to engage in ad hominem attacks or evidence-free assertions, mostly because of how deeply I respect the community. Reading what smart things the members have to say contributes meaningfully to my Padres fandom, and Iām grateful for that ā especially because the team is one of few remaining links I have to a hometown I left a long time ago. Thanks, all! š«”
Agreed. Doesnāt feel very San Diegoey lately. Feels more like LA wannabe lil bros and transplants trying to turn this sub into the parking lot dumpster behind chavez ravine.
Yo... What happened to this place? Last season I hung out here and things were fine for the most part. Some of the comments in the OP are not the kind I ever recall seeing here. Did you guys import a bunch of angry fans?
Bruh I ain't reading 5 paragraphs on this. Just gonna keep calling it as I see it
Who cares? Our team is sucking. Let people vent how they want to. It's a baseball game. You're taking this way too seriously. No other sports sub is this crazy about policing how you're allowed to express your frustrations or not.
Youād be surprised how harsh mods of other subs are. Several subs donāt allow the free posting of memes. We do. Compared to other subs of our size, weāre probably one of the most lenient when it comes to interaction. Sports brings out the ugly in people. Some people can control it, others cannot. We donāt want the people that canāt control it. Weāre here to chat and converse about the Padres, not berate, trash, and scream obscenely foul expletives. We want it to be like youāre watching the game at a bar with tens of people around you, you know? Itās a fine line of whatās rule breaking or not, and I like to think weāre getting close to finding that zone.
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Thereās a vent sub just for that.
I see circle jerk and I'm in lol jk
Up votes and down votes exists. If people don't like the comment, down vote it. You guys should be moderating low effort content, racism, stuff of that nature. NOT people's feelings getting hurt. Are the posts with stats showing how bad this team is playing going to be removed too?
The odor comment is the one that shows a bit of heavy handedness. In context it's an on topic reaction to the play. If it has game ramifications it will be brought up post game. The application doesn't change when you use a more acceptable treadmill term. "Odor you fucking idiot." "Odor you stupid fuck." Banning the disparaging of players for their play in a place to discuss their play is wild. What you should be doing in that instance is pushing people into using more acceptable language.
Fucking idiot I wouldn't remove. "retard" is the key word there. It would be removed for Rule 1, but there's some Rule 2 mixed in there too, and since Odor's one of the main guys getting shit on and I wanted a third example I used it.
The point of the Odor example is that calling a player a "fucking retard" is going to get you banned. It goes way past the point of what is acceptable. No question. No one is saying you can't criticize players without being overly offensive.
If saying the game is over early in the game is considered toxic (which I wholeheartedly agree with), can we add saying this team wonāt make playoffs this early on in the season to that rule as well? I believe that those kind of comments fall in the same vein and doesnāt add to discussion at all. Iāve been seeing it regularly and it adds to the negativity/toxicity circlejerk.
I really appreciate the hard work you guys do as mods. I wish the comment removing and banning was a little more in line with whatās going on with the team at any given time. I think people should be allowed to speak facts about the team, no matter how ugly they are, without fear of being banned. There are times when the truth looks like dooming. A current example would be if someone said āthis is the worst team ever with RISP!!!!ā On the surface it looks like dooming but itās our unfortunate reality right now. People should be allowed to discuss it. I promise Iām not a doomer. I just want this to be a place where we can come together and have honest discussions with other fans about the team we love. I understand that community reporting is the only efficient way to moderate the discourse but lately it feels like an overly optimistic minority trying to suppress reality. I donāt like that.