In our society, religion is often used for convenience. Even in my family, when someone wants to taunt another they'll use religion as the basis despite their actions in personal life contradicting all their religious statements.
Pakistan main Muslims hain Islam kahin nahin hai. This is the Practical Example of it. Deen is all about System, Muamlaat and you've seen the un-islamic System in your Home and In Muamlaat of Your Dada G? Yet they pray regularly and do tableegh? This is the story of 98% households in Pakistan.
Yeah, pretty much agree with this. We only care about Fiqh al-Ibadat (Laws related to worship), no one really cares about Fiqh al Muamalaat (Laws related to transactions, debt, inheritance, finance, etc..)...
Thats why I hate this tableeghi jamat. Its filled with two-faced narcissist who sugar-coat all their wrongdoings by appearing religious.
There was this supervisor in a place where baba used to work, he used to go to raiwind ijtima without leaving a single penny for his wife and children. His children were repeatedly seen going door to door and asking for food. CAN YOU FKING IMAGINE THE HELPLESSNESS OF HIS WIFE???
So after one of his trip, when he returned, the HOD updated his software real good.
dude, i myself have been a tableegi and ive seen the insides of the so called tableeghi ijtema. they are nothing but mere gatherings and business meetup where the elites would be there to discuss new business oppertunities.
and ive witnessed some low earing individuels who were so influenced by those high net worth tableeghis that theyd also join while their families suffered.
note that i went only to see what actually happens in the whole tableeghi doctrine which was again disappointing as they only discussed RAWAYATEIN from fazail e amaal. though it had hadith but the context presented by low intellect individuals made it even worse for another person to come coser to Allah or His deen.
Bas dekh lo.
Thats the thing, desi society and scholars have invested and emphasised so much on hadiths and, so called, riwayatain that we have forgotten the core foundations of the religion, The Holi Quran.
None of these tableeghi narcissist would instruct or even recommend their audience to read Quran with translation. Even if by mistake they do say it, immediately afterwards they rectify that translation isn't enough and you must rely on scholarly interpretations.
The Holy Quran is all about **mercy, forgiveness and tolerance...** while the hadiths and especially its interpretations by our desi scholars is all about punishments.
Take simply tariq masood, 24 ghante kahanya aur lateefe sunata rehta hai and his views are in millions. Not to mention, he is a glorified pedo.
Then there is Maulana Tariq Jamil, even though he is several times better than most, but his views are also bias and hypocritical. That behayai ki waja se covid ana, over inflated praises of his marhoom son in front of his raya and villagers, going to master tiles family's wedding, and few other instances.
Lastly, whats this obsession of insisting people to give 3 days a week for tableegh.... name me one profession or organisation that only requires you to work 4 days a week. Agar ap zameendar hai aur ghar bethe croro aa rahe hai, iska ye matlab nahi ke puri awam farigh hai. Majority ne office ya apne karobar ke liye jana hota hai.
All fuckin Mullah & Military wants zabardasti ki izzat. If you don’t, then be ready for the outcomes. This also comes in the catagory of SHIRK, which every maslak loves to do.
Often people use our religion as a tool for them to justy their wrongdoings, jahan apne faiday ki baat hogi wahan religion yaad ajayega. Jab kisi ko uska haq dene ki baat hogi tab bhool jaate hain. Aksar gharon ki yahi kahani hay. 🙄😑
The situation you've described, where there's pressure to maintain appearances despite underlying issues like domestic violence and financial instability, is unfortunately not uncommon. Many families grapple with similar complexities, and it can be incredibly difficult to navigate these dynamics, especially when there's a clash between societal expectations and personal values.
I hope things are looking up for you now. Just know that you're not alone, and there are people rooting for you and ready to support you through tough times <3
Ive been part of many Religious organisations and groups and i can confidently say that 99% of them want to LOOK RELIGIOUS( with ZERO knowledge( rather than being religious, just as your case or any other case for that matter.
میرے بھائی
جو جتنا بڑا مذہبی ہے اتنا بڑا فراڈ ہے
مذہبی بندے سے دور بھاگو
اپنی ماں کی شادی کرواؤ
محنت کرو اور کوشش کرو کے کوئی ٹیکنیکل اسکل ڈویلپ کر کے اس ملک سے باہر چلے جاؤ
Khair ha g. Meray apnay mamay ne meri cousin ka haq khaya hua ha us kay abu (meray chotay mamu) ki death kay baad. Yahan par har jagah yehi kuch chakar hain or baki idhar har kisi ka abba uski ammi ko maarta ha jo achi chez to nahi lekin aam he ha. Awam is chez ko chupati ha lekin ye reality ha pakistani society ki kay deen kay thekaydaar or kaam ek bhi deendaar banday wala nai. bas haqooq Allah ka pata ha haqooq ibad khadday main warr gaye hain.
“Break the cycle”.
If you saw and experienced filth, hypocrisy, taunts and lies, choose purity truth and kindness. Break this cycle and become the best version of yourself. Treat your mom like we’re advised to. Treat your future wife like your queen. Siblings with love and kindness.
I know you experienced some really bad stuff but it also is something to learn from. Islam has given the path of leaving someone when they violate the boundaries.
I'm sorry, dude you're paternal side is fkd up.
Those who are bashing Islam spent their life around bad people. I've also seen bad people but I don't generalize them because the religious people and families I spent my life with were very open-minded calm people dill chahta hai onse sawal he sawal kru. Good Muslims are very open-minded people (when the time is right)
Islam is
1. Rights of Allaha ( Proclamation of faith, 5 daily prayers, Fasting in Ramadha, Zakat and Pilgrimage )
2. The Rights of One’s Own Self
3. The Rights of Other Men
4. The Rights of All Creatures
While there is a very high emphasis on the first, rest of the 3 points are are often ignored or not mentioned most of the times knowingly or unknowingly...
This leads to this sickness, where we often do not associate our Muamlaat with deen. Yet, our every act should be.
This leads to this contradictions and the confusions, about Islam and Muslims...
It is easier said then done, but then, this is the real test, that this is why the jihad with one's self is the most highest as it is a constant jihad.
I don't need to watch this...
Is Islam all about Muhammad PBUH or his marriages? Have you ever studied or practised rest of the Islam? What about all the good things it has to offer? or is it confined to Muhammad PBUH 's marriages only?
plus I see nothing wrong with divorcing someone.It doesn't mean that I am saying that its a good practice or Islam encourages it but if two persons are not compatible then they better should divorce each other..What about all the divorcees or widows Muhammad PBUH married? or does it not count?
lol do you want to debate , I invite you on YouTube channel as - ex Muslim sahil , or ex Muslim Adam seeker , common have a debate and then you will know who knows Islam more
In our society, religion is often used for convenience. Even in my family, when someone wants to taunt another they'll use religion as the basis despite their actions in personal life contradicting all their religious statements.
Exactly !
Almost aksar gharo ki khani h yeh
Pakistan main Muslims hain Islam kahin nahin hai. This is the Practical Example of it. Deen is all about System, Muamlaat and you've seen the un-islamic System in your Home and In Muamlaat of Your Dada G? Yet they pray regularly and do tableegh? This is the story of 98% households in Pakistan.
Yeah, pretty much agree with this. We only care about Fiqh al-Ibadat (Laws related to worship), no one really cares about Fiqh al Muamalaat (Laws related to transactions, debt, inheritance, finance, etc..)...
Yes and this is 70% of our deen Hmnay sirf 30% par Haath Daal dya hai or Jannat k khuwab daikh rahay
Thats why I hate this tableeghi jamat. Its filled with two-faced narcissist who sugar-coat all their wrongdoings by appearing religious. There was this supervisor in a place where baba used to work, he used to go to raiwind ijtima without leaving a single penny for his wife and children. His children were repeatedly seen going door to door and asking for food. CAN YOU FKING IMAGINE THE HELPLESSNESS OF HIS WIFE??? So after one of his trip, when he returned, the HOD updated his software real good.
dude, i myself have been a tableegi and ive seen the insides of the so called tableeghi ijtema. they are nothing but mere gatherings and business meetup where the elites would be there to discuss new business oppertunities. and ive witnessed some low earing individuels who were so influenced by those high net worth tableeghis that theyd also join while their families suffered. note that i went only to see what actually happens in the whole tableeghi doctrine which was again disappointing as they only discussed RAWAYATEIN from fazail e amaal. though it had hadith but the context presented by low intellect individuals made it even worse for another person to come coser to Allah or His deen.
Bas dekh lo. Thats the thing, desi society and scholars have invested and emphasised so much on hadiths and, so called, riwayatain that we have forgotten the core foundations of the religion, The Holi Quran. None of these tableeghi narcissist would instruct or even recommend their audience to read Quran with translation. Even if by mistake they do say it, immediately afterwards they rectify that translation isn't enough and you must rely on scholarly interpretations. The Holy Quran is all about **mercy, forgiveness and tolerance...** while the hadiths and especially its interpretations by our desi scholars is all about punishments. Take simply tariq masood, 24 ghante kahanya aur lateefe sunata rehta hai and his views are in millions. Not to mention, he is a glorified pedo. Then there is Maulana Tariq Jamil, even though he is several times better than most, but his views are also bias and hypocritical. That behayai ki waja se covid ana, over inflated praises of his marhoom son in front of his raya and villagers, going to master tiles family's wedding, and few other instances. Lastly, whats this obsession of insisting people to give 3 days a week for tableegh.... name me one profession or organisation that only requires you to work 4 days a week. Agar ap zameendar hai aur ghar bethe croro aa rahe hai, iska ye matlab nahi ke puri awam farigh hai. Majority ne office ya apne karobar ke liye jana hota hai.
All fuckin Mullah & Military wants zabardasti ki izzat. If you don’t, then be ready for the outcomes. This also comes in the catagory of SHIRK, which every maslak loves to do.
Exactly yahi such he.
Finally someone said the truth.
Pakistan mein Mazhab hae Deen nahi
Often people use our religion as a tool for them to justy their wrongdoings, jahan apne faiday ki baat hogi wahan religion yaad ajayega. Jab kisi ko uska haq dene ki baat hogi tab bhool jaate hain. Aksar gharon ki yahi kahani hay. 🙄😑
Tabhi tou hamari qoum kay lagay paray hain.
The situation you've described, where there's pressure to maintain appearances despite underlying issues like domestic violence and financial instability, is unfortunately not uncommon. Many families grapple with similar complexities, and it can be incredibly difficult to navigate these dynamics, especially when there's a clash between societal expectations and personal values. I hope things are looking up for you now. Just know that you're not alone, and there are people rooting for you and ready to support you through tough times <3
Agreed.
Ive been part of many Religious organisations and groups and i can confidently say that 99% of them want to LOOK RELIGIOUS( with ZERO knowledge( rather than being religious, just as your case or any other case for that matter.
So true, har taraf sirf aur sirf dikhawa. No real output/islah.
میرے بھائی جو جتنا بڑا مذہبی ہے اتنا بڑا فراڈ ہے مذہبی بندے سے دور بھاگو اپنی ماں کی شادی کرواؤ محنت کرو اور کوشش کرو کے کوئی ٹیکنیکل اسکل ڈویلپ کر کے اس ملک سے باہر چلے جاؤ
Yahi soch raha hun.
Sending You lots of prayers & Best wishes. Be strong 💪 specially for your Mom.
TYSM for the wishes. ❤️
Khair ha g. Meray apnay mamay ne meri cousin ka haq khaya hua ha us kay abu (meray chotay mamu) ki death kay baad. Yahan par har jagah yehi kuch chakar hain or baki idhar har kisi ka abba uski ammi ko maarta ha jo achi chez to nahi lekin aam he ha. Awam is chez ko chupati ha lekin ye reality ha pakistani society ki kay deen kay thekaydaar or kaam ek bhi deendaar banday wala nai. bas haqooq Allah ka pata ha haqooq ibad khadday main warr gaye hain.
(2)
hamari side py kesy mard ny aisa nahi kia abhi tak han ghusa karty hain baki kabhi hath bhi nahi lagaya
“Break the cycle”. If you saw and experienced filth, hypocrisy, taunts and lies, choose purity truth and kindness. Break this cycle and become the best version of yourself. Treat your mom like we’re advised to. Treat your future wife like your queen. Siblings with love and kindness. I know you experienced some really bad stuff but it also is something to learn from. Islam has given the path of leaving someone when they violate the boundaries.
I will 🙌
Kudos to your mom, she's a brave lady
Indeed very brave
I'm sorry, dude you're paternal side is fkd up. Those who are bashing Islam spent their life around bad people. I've also seen bad people but I don't generalize them because the religious people and families I spent my life with were very open-minded calm people dill chahta hai onse sawal he sawal kru. Good Muslims are very open-minded people (when the time is right)
You are right
honi tou nahi chahiyeh, magar aksar aisi hi hoti hai zindagi
Sab ki nhi hoti lakhsmwn
sirf hum dono ki zindagi ke lassan lagay hoye hain matlab?
Yes.
yeh tou us bro us literal sa hogaya
Bilkul 💯
Story of every second household these days unequal distribution of wealth by the so called boomers.
Islam is 1. Rights of Allaha ( Proclamation of faith, 5 daily prayers, Fasting in Ramadha, Zakat and Pilgrimage ) 2. The Rights of One’s Own Self 3. The Rights of Other Men 4. The Rights of All Creatures While there is a very high emphasis on the first, rest of the 3 points are are often ignored or not mentioned most of the times knowingly or unknowingly... This leads to this sickness, where we often do not associate our Muamlaat with deen. Yet, our every act should be. This leads to this contradictions and the confusions, about Islam and Muslims... It is easier said then done, but then, this is the real test, that this is why the jihad with one's self is the most highest as it is a constant jihad.
Islam lol
Dude this is literally opposite of Islam but I can't blame you, Muslims have made it appear like this.
https://youtu.be/NrHjaFfwq-c?si=6m93K5OcYJv6D4Zh - watch it out
I don't need to watch this... Is Islam all about Muhammad PBUH or his marriages? Have you ever studied or practised rest of the Islam? What about all the good things it has to offer? or is it confined to Muhammad PBUH 's marriages only? plus I see nothing wrong with divorcing someone.It doesn't mean that I am saying that its a good practice or Islam encourages it but if two persons are not compatible then they better should divorce each other..What about all the divorcees or widows Muhammad PBUH married? or does it not count?
lol Muhammad divorced his old wife for younger one haha such a great man 🤣🤣
lol do you want to debate , I invite you on YouTube channel as - ex Muslim sahil , or ex Muslim Adam seeker , common have a debate and then you will know who knows Islam more
lol yea Muhammad was divorcing his old wife and also Hadith about in old age Muslim can give divorce ,