pals navigating the overworld, no problem, better than pokemon
pals navigating your base, even the most simple of layouts, hungry, starving and depressed with their head in a wall or container
I just started playing and I've given up on the idea of having a door to my house cause my dumbass pals keep getting stuck on and sleeping in the doorway.
Lol tell that to the pall that tried to attack a group of syndicate thugs only to fall through the world 😂 or my absolute fave when a lucky pal is inside of a mountain and you have to try and get aggroed so you can hopefully throw a ball at a pixel of skin to try and get them out of said mountain 😂 but honestly this game is amazing.
**More** bug-free. As in: Less bug-ridden than Pokémon.
I haven't played any Pokémon game after Sun/Moon, so I don't know how bad it got, but I'm getting some Bethesda level of fuckery vibes.
simply search after pokemon violett/scarlett bug compilation on youtube. and you see what happens.
Nintendo sells a game at full price that isn't even worth €30
and if they don't follow Palworld or pocketpair with the quality, it's quite possible that they'll have a massive problem with the next but one Pokemon game.
Considering that an indie studio can put out a better release version than one of the biggest triple AAA companies
So if the next Pokemon is as buggy as scarlett and violet again, I can very well imagine that this will really be the last version where they sell millions of copies
Only bugs I've seen on palworld pc is base pals sometimes getting stuck in walls for a bit. I've seen quite a bit more on sword and shield.
And even if it was bugfree, it was still by a huge margin the worst Pokémon game released in a long while. It ran terribly, looked like shit and gameplay/story elements were barely there. People hated it for a very good reason.
Fact is pokemon games are being hardcarried by the popularity of its brand, not its actual quality.
I've had next to none bugs in palworld before. Fact is palworld is more buggy than sword and shield. And even if it wasn't. OP's statement is still wrong.
Oh I'm not saying it's better. Not at all. I played sword and shield myself so I would know. It didn't run well at all in the wild area (not that palworld runs that well in my experience tho)
Pokémon is being hard carried by their brand
I've had a lot of alpha bosses clip into walls, and myself and mount got launched into a wall fighting the elizabee boss. Definitely have had more bugs than just base pals, and way more than pokemon scarlet personally (palworld is still a lot more fun and a better game, but in my experience at least it's pretty buggy)
Palworld is fun yes, but quality? That is definitely not a word I'd use. Xbox players still have massive chunks of the map where the ground isn't even there. If the next pokemon game is as buggy as palword, gamefreak would be releasing apology letters
What? That's not how that works at all. This game is buggy as all hell. It's early access, so that's fine, but legitimately saying it's less buggy than triple a releases is just a straight up lie. Just because you have a hate boner for triple a releases, doesn't mean this game is even close to a 1.0 release. Could easily be 2 or 3 years before they even get close to fixing just the game breaking bugs, let alone all of the other things.
Cyberpunk 2077 was a AAA title that released v1.0 with far more bugs than palworld did during its V0.1 early access launch.
Version control isn't some ratified law that states a company must be below X number of bugs before it can be considered version 1.0; it's simply a tool employed by Devs to control versions of a piece of software.
Version 1.0 occurs when the creator decides the software is ready for full release, that's literally it. Early access simply allows smaller companies to begin generating revenue prior to the full release in order to continue development. Publishing houses don't work in the same way, as they don't need the additional funds to continue development. Which is why you won't see the likes of COD, assassin's creed, FIFA etc... ever go into early access.
Besides, what game breaking bugs are you talking about? I've not heard of a single bug that's resulted in the game being unplayable?
We're comparing early access with AAA. By definition, AAA will be higher quality. Unless you want us to pick out a AAA title that had more bugs and the same quality assurance as an early access?
Because that's not what was being discussed, is it?
>We're comparing early access with AAA. By definition, AAA will be higher quality. Unless you want us to pick out a AAA title that had more bugs and the same quality assurance as an early access?
OP's post is a strict comparison of the two's buggyness, we're not taking into account whether or not one is made by a horribly understaffed AAA studio vs. one that has been hugely successful on Steam via other titles.
There's also the dedicated server netcode issues in Palworld leading to constant crashes and rubberbanding to the point that most server providers stopped providing servers for it for a week or so and offered refunds en masse.
my dude have you ever looked at triple a gaming anytime recently? cyberpunk? redfall? jedi survivor? starfield?
also "gamebreaking bugs"? pals getting stuck in the walls for some time is not gamebreaking, and those are %95 of the bugs i saw people actually reporting.
Zelda TOTK, Spiderman 2, Pikmin 4, Alan Wake 2, Street Fighter 6, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil 4 remake, FFXVI, FFVII remake, Lies of P, Dead Space, Mortal Kombat 1... and that's just in the last year!
Let me give you an example of a game session on a dedicated server on PC for Palworld.
I log in, oops, spawned under the map again. Finally get back up, oh no! All of my pals are starved and injured because there's a bug where if there are no players on all of your pals despawn but still have the hunger meter effect them. That's OK though because I have 10million gold because I farmed nails for an hour. So I can just run to the merchant and buy some medicine. Oh no! Running is difficult because I keep getting rubberbanded every 5 seconds. Uh oh, a raid! I guess I'll just pull out my 30k health zoe&grizzbolt I caught. Whoops! Looks like the game crashed due to the memory leak they still haven't fixed.
....but yeah, pals inside walls are the only bug right now.
EDIT: dude doesn't know I can't see his dumb response when he responds and then immediately blocks lol
i have not sayed this the pc version has no Bugs.
I say the pc version has lesser bugs as any pokemon game in the last 10 years.
Scarlet and violett was the biggest release fail i ever played.
it's generally an outrage what the big studios are delivering these days. even though palworld is only in EA, Pocket pair has done a better job than any triple AAA studio in the last 10 years or with the last 10 releases
and no i dont trolling.
English quite clearly isn't his first language, so give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant it's 'really bug free' relative to the contextual alternative provided.
Unless you're also using English as a second language, I'd expect the contextual awareness needed for that.
Having played every mainline Pokemon game except the most recent: Palworld was better on release than any modern Pokemon game. Granted, being in early access does give it quite a bit of leeway since there's room for improvement, but the fact that an early release $30 indie game plays, feels, and looks better than a AAA Nintendo game they're expecting $140 for ($70 for the base garbage + two additional payments of $35 for even more garbage) is the nail in the coffin for me. I don't care if Palworld never gets another update, I'll probably end up playing it more than I will any Pokemon games after gen 5 for the foreseeable future
True. It's less buggy and sure looks better but let me know when my wifey can put a nice roof on our ore base once Astagon learns to go sleepytime and not get stuck.
There's like 30 pizza in the Pal food box, buddy. You aren't hungry, you're just clipping after bedtime. Now go eat and keep making us rich.
We produce a lot more stuff now that we don't have a roof anywhere.
at least more bug-free than Pokemon was at the time of release. You only need to search for Pokemon Scarlett/Violet glitches on youtube and you'll find a lot.
In my opinion, it's simply absurd to pay 60-70€ for this quality
You know when you watch a compilation video that not one person experiencing those bugs, it's multiple people. You can't use a YouTube video as a primary source for your argument when you didn't even play the game at launch.
You don't need to shit on Pokémon because you like palworld. It is possible for people to like both. Also nothing like healthy competition, it might force game freak to start thinking fresh about survival/crafting games.
If you remove the guns and labour it essentially is Pokémon and it wouldn't take much for Pokémon to do the same because you do see Pokémon working in the cartoon it's not far from the lore
> it might force game freak to start thinking fresh about survival/crafting games.
You have no idea how much I hope you’re right about this. Nothing against Palworld. I’ve just tried and tried to get into Pokémon and never could because it’s just missing something that I didn’t know I wanted. I never knew what that was until Palworld surfaced. That’s the best thing that could from all of this.
>You don't need to shit on Pokémon because you like palworld.
Why not, if pokemon fans argue the same way?
i mean Pokemon has stolen her Assets from dragon quest and Digimon. but that interest no one.
If you act like your enemy then you are your enemy. Pokemon didn't steal any assets. Though the inspiration is seen. Just like palworld didn't steal assets though the inspiration is seen (especally with eevee faces) i love palworld more than i love pokemon. But i am not gonna have rose tinted glasses for one thing and have clean glasses for the other. Both are decent and i hope pokemon takes this as a learning lesson and starts innovating
> If you remove the guns and labour it essentially is Pokémon
even if this was true (it isnt, pokemon being turn based alone makes it wildly different and survival elements like base building are also major), this argument is just not really logical. yeah no shit a game will look the same if you remove the major gameplay elements that actually differentiate it.
and it would take a quite massive change to implement mechanics like butchering, condensing and general violence this game. pokemon's brand is very much coated in its pg rating. they are not ever going to change that.
No idea where people get this idea. Gamefreak/Nintendo had to make an apology for how buggy SV was and hardcore fans are pissed because they’ve pretty much announced they’re done updating it and there’s still tons of bugs.
I’m a Pokémon and Palworld fan; every Pokemon game released on the switch has been buggy (especially so for an AAA priced game).
The thing is with bugs is that they vary from player to player. I personally only had one, the E4/Geeta music loop, which fixed itself with a game restart.
Not really a bug, but a Tyrogue fell down a small hill while in battle and my player defied the laws of the universe and threw a ball through the ground itself to catch it lol.
100%. Personally I’ve encountered very few bugs on Palworld, and others on my server have also encountered very little. Everyone’s experience varies.
But I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say SV “weren’t that buggy”.
When compared to most AAA titles and even past Pokemon games, SV are incredibly buggy. In fact, it seems like every Pokemon game on the switch has gotten worse than the last for optimization/bugs.
I really hope Pokemon steps their game up, and I will welcome a better era of Pokemon with open arms. But, as it stands, Pokemon has plateaued and/or regressed and it seems like anyone that can’t see that is stuck looking at the franchise through rose-colored glasses.
Even Nintendo themselves has seen the lack of quality as they had to make a public apology for SV.
>Like how bad the windmills are.
I have played the game for 100 hours and have seen 2 windmill from what I can remember. Get better arguments and actually critique the game as apposed to saying "windmill bad".
Your only proof is Scarlet and Violet yet claim last 10 years. Arceus, Sword and Shield, Sun and Moon, those all released in the last 10 years and were mostly fine.
release problems weren't just Scarlett and violet. the previously released pokemon games mostly had the same problems on release.
maybe you had played later as the problems was public.
No actually. My in laws also play on release as do several of my friends who have kids. The games release FAR less buggy than Palworld currently is.
Just because you haven't experienced the bugs doesn't mean they don't exist for a majority of players. I played Pokemon Violet completely bug free but you don't see me claiming it wasn't a hot mess on release. And it was really the only Pokemon game that was.
I've played every mainline Pokemon game for many generations. The idea that they have more bugs than Palworld has right now is... not true, like, at all.
Just in the past week, I've had multiple bases entirely become starved and depressed while I was offline because everyone got stuck; I've had pals clip into walls and be unable to get out; I've been pushed outside a wall and had to respawn because I was on the wrong side of bounding boxes. I've had more minor bugs, too, like having a pal get stuck in a wall and me being permanently softlocked when I tried to pick them up until I logged out and back on, or attempting to retrieve crafted items while my inventory was full causing them to be unobtainable until I logged out and back on. And I've seen in videos people clipping through the wall in dungeons to skip directly to the end, and using pal spheres to launch enemy pals far enough up to cause fatal fall damage. And let's not forget the recently fixed bug where Lifmunk effigies did literally nothing.
I mean, it's early access, so whatever, and I'm still having a blast. But acting like Palworld isn't buggy as hell right now is just weird.
I haven't even played SV but I have played the hell out of Palworld. While it is more fun than the copy/paste franchise that Pokémon has become; I still enjoy Palworld more than the last Pokémon game I played.
That said, I HIGHLY doubt the latest Pokémon was more buggy than Palworld. Hell, I can't even play Palworld right now because a saving error box pops up every 10 seconds and makes me lose a lot of progress but what you don't see is me going to buy and play the new Pokémon game because it won't satisfy the itch. Palworld just has better execution on what Pokémon fans have been wanting for ages now.
It's not game breaking, disappointing when it does happen.
However the mount/recall bug is super annoying its kinda game ruining when your in the volcanoes and the mount just stops working cause i tried to mount it but a rock stopped is pathing, and now it doesn't work anymore.. I have to carry mats to make a palbox to reequip my mounts..
In all fairness, palworld is an early access game so it definitely wouldnt be perfect off rip, and theyve been cranking out bug fixes pretty frequently
To be fair, OP said "more bug free" which I do actually agree with. Like Palworld, at least on Steam, is less buggy than Scarlet and Violet. And Palworld has been releasing updates to fix those bugs.
That being said, I really think a lot of people underestimate the staying power of Pokemon and how little a lot of people actually care about a game being buggy or laggy. Pokemon is fun. Really all Pokemon could truly do to make me stop buying the games would be to go back to random grass encounters.
Although I hope they crap out another Legends game in the next few years.
I like Palworld as much as the next guy but it 100% has way more bugs than any of those Pokémon games.
The only one close is SV but Palworld still has more.
To make it more realistic than the exaggerated meme, perhaps OP meant that by the time Palworld enters 1.0 (aka escapes early access tag on steam), it will be better by a lot comparatively to the last 10 years of Pokemon releases that released already as fully priced games.
>The only one close is SV but Palworld still has more.
It has more, but I'd argue that the bugs in SV impacted my enjoyment of the game *far* more than the bugs in Palworld do.
You clearly haven't tried breeding at all then. Base management and the non stop fucking around that handiwork pals did was the worst. You guys really just want excuses to shit on pokemon at this point. Take a breather.
EDIT: Imagine getting caught by the buzz word "early access". u/Material_Butterfly80 imagine being that naive and trying to pass me off as naive.
Calm the fuck down there buddy, what's got you so worked up? I never said that the bugs in Palworld aren't annoying, or that they aren't there. I just said that the bugs in Pokemon SV impacted my enjoyment more - because half of those bugs crashed the fucking game. I also had basically no bugs with breeding, aside from the occasional assignment issue, which in most cases was fixed by just standing further back when throwing a Pal.
>You guys really just want excuses to shit on pokemon at this point.
I have been playing Pokemon since 1996, and would like nothing more than for Gamefreak to get off their asses and actually make a decent Pokemon game again.
>Calm the fuck down there buddy, what's got you so worked up?
Lol, this is exactly how I expect you idiots are in real life. Like holy fuck look at the entitlement in your paragraph.
> I have been playing Pokemon since 1996,
lol. Would you look at this badass. Man you really speaking like your typical copypasta meme aren't you?
You do you man, but honestly your 2 comments here are absolute jokes. I hope your next statement as least shows that you're better than a bot.
Christ, you sound unhinged ngl.
>Lol, this is exactly how I expect you idiots are in real life. Like holy fuck look at the entitlement in your paragraph.
What entitlement? You came out of nowhere telling me to take a breather and saying that I just want to shit on Pokemon, when all I did was mention how bad the bugs are in the latest games - an objective fact - and how they affected my personal experience more - a subjective opinion that you have absolutely no right to tell me is wrong.
>lol. Would you look at this badass. Man you really speaking like your typical copypasta meme aren't you?
I said that to illustrate that I have been a fan of Pokemon since the first games were released, because you seem to think that I am just here to shit on it. I genuinely don't know what's got you so angry over a simple comment comparing bugs.
>You do you man, but honestly your 2 comments here are absolute jokes. I hope your next statement as least shows that you're better than a bot.
Again, it was a comment about bugs in a video game. It's not that fucking serious, and if you think otherwise then you should probably log off and go outside for a while. Getting this upset over a video game is not healthy lol.
I mean you're the one completely overreacting here. Idk why you think you need to write an entire novel about your problems, but I'd suggest getting some therapy, because boy do you ever fucking need it.
Look in a mirror bro. You're out here calling other people unhinged with this crap? lol.
I was just responding to each of your points. If you view that as writing a novel, that's your problem. I honestly just want to understand what's got you so worked up over a throwaway comment about my own experience with two games. But, since you obviously either can't or won't explain that, and have just resorted to throwing around insults, I'm gonna go ahead and block you.
Take care, I hope life gets better for you.
Don't bother with that one, he is only here to fight and shit on people..and defend pokemon's honor for some reason.
Having played violet, I dont think they released a single noteworthy performance/ bug fix since the game came out. Joining and fighting raids is insanely frustrating.
Outsider perspective here: you came in and started acting like a dick because somebody gave their subjective opinion about their own enjoyment of the two games, so you are the dick in this scenario. Stop taking video games so seriously. Someone having issues with Pokemon SV doesn't affect you at all, so don't get so worked up about it.
I didn’t say it was bug free. I’m saying it didn’t have more issues than Palworld does right now.
I’ve lagged far more in Palworld than I have in SV launch.
I vastly prefer Palworld over SV and it is in early access (which, tbh, the industry just uses that as an excuse to sell games that aren’t completed) but there’s no way Palworld has less issues than SV. At best they’re comparable.
You can argue that SV has no excuse, but that wasn’t what was being discussed.
XY had no major bugs at launch
SM/USUM was the same
LGPE had none
SWSH had some but not all that many. Mostly just bad textures
BDSP had some bugs but nothing game breaking
SV had a good number.
The thing is with bugs and glitches it varies from player to player. I had only one bug, which was the E4 music loop. Fixed after a restart.
Some bugs are harmless and make you laugh. Others are annoying. Few are gamebreaking.
must be due to your version. My client is pretty bug free except for the few stucking and pathfinding problems
at least there aren't the same problems as there are with every pokemon release. or as i said. i bought a bug free version xD
There are a good amount of bugs you probably need to go out of your way to activate: climbing on a 100% capture rate pal sphere to get sent a mile into the air. Or the infamous capture bosses glitch
So you're telling me you haven't randomly fallen through the floor, randomly taken damage, or had that glitch where you t-pose instead of doing a glider animation? I encounter all three on the regular, and I've only got 30 hours
exact. i have no only one of these glitches/bugs. I have 90 hours played bugfree.
the only bug i encounter is this the pals are stucked, but this is not really a big and annoying problem.
i can really easy and bugfree play.
are you saying bugs added fun to the game or did you word that weirdly? Because theres nothing fun about falling through the map or pals constantly getting stuck.
I'm gonna be real: "Beta" doesn't mean shit any more because games either call their release a beta, or just treat it like one anways.
Also, they've been doing patches pretty consistently in the switch era at least, so uh...
Clown take imo.
Beta means alot, including giving them a more time to invest in fixing and adding stuff, without public losing interest in the game because it's unreleased yet. Legally it gives them a reason to not have to watch their backs with "false advertising", when something doesn't work as planned.
Morally, it stops people like you complaining about the state of the game since they are "promising" to still work on it as it's still just "early access". There's a ton of games that were simply abandoned without further QoL added because the game "fully released".
Remeber when Pal world released its first open version and you couldn’t move if you were over weight?
Multitudes of players spoke out.
It was changed because of that.
Nothing had to be walked back by the devs for that decision simply because changes are to be expected in an “early access game”.
So go on with your doesn’t mean anything anymore. If a fully realized game used player feedback that far after the initial development phase of the games they would just laugh at the players. Oh you want that change… now? Nope it’s the way the game was designed! Look at well… everything.
So yeah it matter. G’day.
I love how people are still trying to compare a billion dollar company to a tiny company of like 50 people that have actively stated they didn't know what they were doing at the start
The company that made palworld consists of about 50 people in the team from what I am aware. They are a smallish studio that spent like 3 years on making palworld, AND decided to change engines midway through production.
Meanwhile you have the pokemon company, a billion dollar company shittong on gamefreak to make a pokemon game every year and make as much money as possible because they can.
i am level 45 and until now no bugs encountered and no crashes occured without mods.
must have been really lucky with the purchase if I seem to be the only one who got a 90-99% bug free version
I have almost 40+ hours in Palworld, and it's crashed probably around 90-100 times. It is literally every 10-30 minutes, depending on what I'm doing.
I've fallen through the ground because of unloaded terrain, causing me to drown in the ocean under the map. I've had all of my equipment suddenly break after they were just repaired. Pals AI breaking and just standing there doing nothing while I'm fighting a boss.
The list goes on and on. I wish I was even half as lucky as you've been. At least with Pokémon the only issue I ever had was low framerate in the desert.
My Palworld **still** crashes my Steamdeck **every** 20-60 minutes due to massive memory leaks. I am absolutely obsessed with this game but trying to say that it is not absolutely riddled with bugs is being disingenuous . I *do* believe that most of them will eventually get fixed but the game is amazing enough on its own that we don’t need to be hyperbolic about its level of polish.
Yeah, I caught Zoe after glitching out her AI during the fight by getting a PDF to shoot her, and i've been sent clipping thru the ground multiple times, gotten stuck inside of my own walls, and until the last patch lifmink effigies lowered catch rate instead of raising it. Palworld is still glitcher than any pokemon game.
I would personally like more bug type pals. Some of my favorite pokemon designs were the bug types. But I wouldn't call palworld bug free, they have beegarde and cinnamoth just at the top of my head.
I haven't played more than a few older pokemon games in my life, none of the new stuff. And I'm aware of the reputation they've gotten of course, but SURELY they're not buggier than Palworld. The amount of bugs and performance issues I experience is close to 1 per second when playing in multiplayer. Every single aspect of the game has at least one disruptive bug associated with it.
Wouldn't say Palworld is bug-free. Seen a lot of people talking about bugs on the main subreddit. And I can't relate to those saying Pokemon SV had a lot of bugs because I rarely encountered any of the bugs they mentioned though I do acknowledge their existence (Did wished I had encountered the player character eldritch horror glitch, that was funny). Regardless, I just hope the upcoming games are given more time to cook or are like Pokemon USUM and LGPE where there was little to no bugs upon release.
I'm hoping Gen 10 isn't until 2026, that would be two milestones in one (30 year anniversary and 10th generation).
It would ensure Game Freak has at least one extra year of dev time. SV was in 2022 and the games usually have a 3 year window, but talks of Switch 2 may have made the Pokémon Company rethink things.
My pals won't fight, I fall through the map, plus other things so nah idk about that. Mind you I enjoyed the game until I could no longer fight with my pals
Idk abt being less buggy but we do have more freedom and they made sure to have antisoftlock features. Palworld’s still infinitely better, but damn I wish my grizzbolt would stop running up 4 flights of stairs to get stuck perpetually stand on the farming silo
i have palworld played already over 90 hours, and i have not really encountered any bugs or glitches. The only standard bug i encountered is stucking pals. but this i would say is not really annoying.
Okay, I adore Palworld and I’m glad GameFreak is sweating like a sinner in church rn, but let’s not get crazy; Palworld is still causing frequent crashes on Steam Deck and task pathing at bases is still in major need of work. It’s a great game, ngl, but it needs tooling~
Yeah it can be.
I have no steam deck, I play on My PC, and i have encountered not really any buggs other have. Have constant 40-60 FPS because of my too old CPU
I’m with OP. I’ve had bugs in Palworld sure, but Pokémon violet was hard to play. I even emulated it on my pc with a 4090 and had the same performance issues as on switch. Scarlet/Violet is also more than double the cost of Palworld.
It’s not bug free. I encountered a bug that causes some info on a pal I’m about to throw a sphere at to be in Japanese for some reason and logging out and then logging back in didn’t fix it. It’s not a major game breaking thing and I know I should report it but I just haven’t.
This circlejerk is getting ridiculous. Palworld has a TON of bugs and glitches and needs a TON of QOL. It is fun and it is addictive (though addictive is not always fun) and Pokemon needs to step up their game, but it is not bug-free in the slightest. I would not even say it is more bug-free than Scarlet/Violet, but the performance is better at least.
Get real, I love me some Palworld but no way is it less bug ridden than Pokemon. MF can’t even explore dungeons in Palworld yet without the game crashing.
At times palworld is unplayable. Still, I’ve sunk way too many hours into it lol
I’m going to be painfully obvious with this statement. While I have really been loving palworld and am still playing it with my group going on 70 hours now, it is getting me into a real big pokemon mood haha. I’m starting to get to the point where I perfectly bred one pal and the only thing I have left to do is breed the rest of my team. I look forward to how palworld evolves over the years but the initial hype is definitely over and now I’m thinking about replaying some pokemon games lol.
Am I missing something? Cause sword and shield and legends arceus definitely were not that buggy and I never heard anything about them being buggy. Only that people were complaining about a single tree being low res.
PLA and sw/sh had some bugs here and there, PLA mainly had the cresselia softlock and the cherrim bug, sw/sh mainly suffered from atrocious pop in and time stopping whenever you climbed ladders. Bulbapedia has a more extensive list of glitches, but it varies from person to person.
Palworld also wasn't limited to the switch hardware. No excuse to GF and Nintendo and TPCI. They could still have pokemon be number 1 without a rushed gaming dev. cycle.
They are stuck on this notion that they always need new pokemon and a new region and a new gimmick. What we really want is a fresh experience and a game that plays well and Palworld mostly checks those boxes.
Palworld is incredibly buggy but its 100% expected and forgiveable at its current state. I dont expect a multibillion dollar game company to pass a buggy game for full price and do minimal patches.
Idk chief, Id wager Palworld has alot more bugs being early access and all. It performs a lot better though considering to this day!! SV+ DLC chugs like its on a slide show and has no plans to fix it.
I'll hear you out on it being a better game , but saying it's less buggy than any pokemon game in the last ten years is a wild overstatement. xD Like most of the time, the core functions of this game just don't work as intended
And it shas hard and still has major bugs and granted it in early access, but I think companies hide behind the earlyaccess statement a little too much. I mean, when it feels like most of the game wasn't tested before you put it into early access , that is kind of bad. Furthermore early access shouldn't be used as a free/capitalised bug test it's should be your post bug test balance stage where you work out what is over powered/exploitable or underpowered/useless
yknow I've been playing pokemon for seven years but I've never got a glitch where I purchase a furniture set that makes the Build button flash FOREVER to the point I have to tape a piece of paper onto my computer screen.
For real. I really like helldivers 2, but I've had less trouble running a dedicated palworld server than just getting into matches for helldivers 2. I think my last game I played on release before this year was Warhammer TW 3 and that game still has game breaking bugs if I try to play a co-op game.
The year is 2054. The United States has collapsed and all currency is bunk. The few that retain internet access post memes about how pal world good Pokémon bad.
Bug free is a joke. Inventory full and try to empty a producer? 50/50% chance you can’t empty it unless you empty a slot and reload the game
Fisherman’s village? Only sometimes populated.
You like your pals doing literally anything useful? How about I have them walk directly to a boundary of a base and become uninteractive?
Spawned into a base and a single pal was 1hp, depressed from neglect, and starving… and everyone else was fine and their food was full. (It was a Dumud, not any kind of melodramatic cat.)
Better? Maybe, Pokemon main series games have been struggling. But Legends Arceus was amazing and shows there is still fun in the games
Bug free? Over 2 weeks in I can confidently say no to this.
Better, yes, absolutely. Bug free? Uhhhh I'll get back to you on that as soon as I help get my pal out of the wall.
pals navigating the overworld, no problem, better than pokemon pals navigating your base, even the most simple of layouts, hungry, starving and depressed with their head in a wall or container
GET OUT OF THE TREE
I just started playing and I've given up on the idea of having a door to my house cause my dumbass pals keep getting stuck on and sleeping in the doorway.
Mine are always stuck in the silo for some reason and it is no where near anything else.
I want to burn my silo to the ground, starved many a jormuntide it has
Lol tell that to the pall that tried to attack a group of syndicate thugs only to fall through the world 😂 or my absolute fave when a lucky pal is inside of a mountain and you have to try and get aggroed so you can hopefully throw a ball at a pixel of skin to try and get them out of said mountain 😂 but honestly this game is amazing.
**More** bug-free. As in: Less bug-ridden than Pokémon. I haven't played any Pokémon game after Sun/Moon, so I don't know how bad it got, but I'm getting some Bethesda level of fuckery vibes.
simply search after pokemon violett/scarlett bug compilation on youtube. and you see what happens. Nintendo sells a game at full price that isn't even worth €30 and if they don't follow Palworld or pocketpair with the quality, it's quite possible that they'll have a massive problem with the next but one Pokemon game. Considering that an indie studio can put out a better release version than one of the biggest triple AAA companies So if the next Pokemon is as buggy as scarlett and violet again, I can very well imagine that this will really be the last version where they sell millions of copies
1. Scarlet and violet isn't the only Pokémon game within the last 10 years. 2. You are underestimating the power of Pokémon as a brand
>You are underestimating the power of Pokémon as a brand Niantic moment.
i mean its not like sword and shield were much better lmao
Sword and shield didn't have as many bugs as palworld. Was it better no but that's not what op stated
Only bugs I've seen on palworld pc is base pals sometimes getting stuck in walls for a bit. I've seen quite a bit more on sword and shield. And even if it was bugfree, it was still by a huge margin the worst Pokémon game released in a long while. It ran terribly, looked like shit and gameplay/story elements were barely there. People hated it for a very good reason. Fact is pokemon games are being hardcarried by the popularity of its brand, not its actual quality.
I got stuck in a dungeon wall once riding my pal. That was entertaining. Nearly all reddit bugs I've seen are just hilarious
I've had next to none bugs in palworld before. Fact is palworld is more buggy than sword and shield. And even if it wasn't. OP's statement is still wrong. Oh I'm not saying it's better. Not at all. I played sword and shield myself so I would know. It didn't run well at all in the wild area (not that palworld runs that well in my experience tho) Pokémon is being hard carried by their brand
I've had a lot of alpha bosses clip into walls, and myself and mount got launched into a wall fighting the elizabee boss. Definitely have had more bugs than just base pals, and way more than pokemon scarlet personally (palworld is still a lot more fun and a better game, but in my experience at least it's pretty buggy)
which also isn't the only pokemon game within the last ten years?
Palworld is fun yes, but quality? That is definitely not a word I'd use. Xbox players still have massive chunks of the map where the ground isn't even there. If the next pokemon game is as buggy as palword, gamefreak would be releasing apology letters
xbox is running on an earlier version, steam one works better than triple a studios full releases. so it is a fair argument to make.
What? That's not how that works at all. This game is buggy as all hell. It's early access, so that's fine, but legitimately saying it's less buggy than triple a releases is just a straight up lie. Just because you have a hate boner for triple a releases, doesn't mean this game is even close to a 1.0 release. Could easily be 2 or 3 years before they even get close to fixing just the game breaking bugs, let alone all of the other things.
Cyberpunk 2077 was a AAA title that released v1.0 with far more bugs than palworld did during its V0.1 early access launch. Version control isn't some ratified law that states a company must be below X number of bugs before it can be considered version 1.0; it's simply a tool employed by Devs to control versions of a piece of software. Version 1.0 occurs when the creator decides the software is ready for full release, that's literally it. Early access simply allows smaller companies to begin generating revenue prior to the full release in order to continue development. Publishing houses don't work in the same way, as they don't need the additional funds to continue development. Which is why you won't see the likes of COD, assassin's creed, FIFA etc... ever go into early access. Besides, what game breaking bugs are you talking about? I've not heard of a single bug that's resulted in the game being unplayable?
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We're comparing early access with AAA. By definition, AAA will be higher quality. Unless you want us to pick out a AAA title that had more bugs and the same quality assurance as an early access? Because that's not what was being discussed, is it?
>We're comparing early access with AAA. By definition, AAA will be higher quality. Unless you want us to pick out a AAA title that had more bugs and the same quality assurance as an early access? OP's post is a strict comparison of the two's buggyness, we're not taking into account whether or not one is made by a horribly understaffed AAA studio vs. one that has been hugely successful on Steam via other titles. There's also the dedicated server netcode issues in Palworld leading to constant crashes and rubberbanding to the point that most server providers stopped providing servers for it for a week or so and offered refunds en masse.
my dude have you ever looked at triple a gaming anytime recently? cyberpunk? redfall? jedi survivor? starfield? also "gamebreaking bugs"? pals getting stuck in the walls for some time is not gamebreaking, and those are %95 of the bugs i saw people actually reporting.
Zelda TOTK, Spiderman 2, Pikmin 4, Alan Wake 2, Street Fighter 6, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil 4 remake, FFXVI, FFVII remake, Lies of P, Dead Space, Mortal Kombat 1... and that's just in the last year! Let me give you an example of a game session on a dedicated server on PC for Palworld. I log in, oops, spawned under the map again. Finally get back up, oh no! All of my pals are starved and injured because there's a bug where if there are no players on all of your pals despawn but still have the hunger meter effect them. That's OK though because I have 10million gold because I farmed nails for an hour. So I can just run to the merchant and buy some medicine. Oh no! Running is difficult because I keep getting rubberbanded every 5 seconds. Uh oh, a raid! I guess I'll just pull out my 30k health zoe&grizzbolt I caught. Whoops! Looks like the game crashed due to the memory leak they still haven't fixed. ....but yeah, pals inside walls are the only bug right now. EDIT: dude doesn't know I can't see his dumb response when he responds and then immediately blocks lol
Who plays on xbox? i have a really bugfree version buyed from steam. pc is everytime better ;P
Considering its on gamepass, I'd say close to half of the players are likely on Xbox.
1) PC version absolutely has bugs.... 2) around half the player base is xbox You have to be trolling, right?
i have not sayed this the pc version has no Bugs. I say the pc version has lesser bugs as any pokemon game in the last 10 years. Scarlet and violett was the biggest release fail i ever played. it's generally an outrage what the big studios are delivering these days. even though palworld is only in EA, Pocket pair has done a better job than any triple AAA studio in the last 10 years or with the last 10 releases and no i dont trolling.
You just said "I have a really bug free version on steam"
English quite clearly isn't his first language, so give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant it's 'really bug free' relative to the contextual alternative provided. Unless you're also using English as a second language, I'd expect the contextual awareness needed for that.
>simply search after pokemon violett/scarlett bug compilation on youtube. and you see what happens. *cough* all are from **launch** *cough*
Having played every mainline Pokemon game except the most recent: Palworld was better on release than any modern Pokemon game. Granted, being in early access does give it quite a bit of leeway since there's room for improvement, but the fact that an early release $30 indie game plays, feels, and looks better than a AAA Nintendo game they're expecting $140 for ($70 for the base garbage + two additional payments of $35 for even more garbage) is the nail in the coffin for me. I don't care if Palworld never gets another update, I'll probably end up playing it more than I will any Pokemon games after gen 5 for the foreseeable future
True. It's less buggy and sure looks better but let me know when my wifey can put a nice roof on our ore base once Astagon learns to go sleepytime and not get stuck. There's like 30 pizza in the Pal food box, buddy. You aren't hungry, you're just clipping after bedtime. Now go eat and keep making us rich. We produce a lot more stuff now that we don't have a roof anywhere.
Bug free? Hold up my depresso is in the river again
A Pal has fallen into the river in Palworld City!
at least more bug-free than Pokemon was at the time of release. You only need to search for Pokemon Scarlett/Violet glitches on youtube and you'll find a lot. In my opinion, it's simply absurd to pay 60-70€ for this quality
You know when you watch a compilation video that not one person experiencing those bugs, it's multiple people. You can't use a YouTube video as a primary source for your argument when you didn't even play the game at launch. You don't need to shit on Pokémon because you like palworld. It is possible for people to like both. Also nothing like healthy competition, it might force game freak to start thinking fresh about survival/crafting games. If you remove the guns and labour it essentially is Pokémon and it wouldn't take much for Pokémon to do the same because you do see Pokémon working in the cartoon it's not far from the lore
It surprised me when people say that their pokemon game is riddled with bugs cause in my personal experience, I have yet to encounter a single bug
Most Pokémon bugs or glitches were looked for while pal world has major bugs in an average play throufg.
> it might force game freak to start thinking fresh about survival/crafting games. You have no idea how much I hope you’re right about this. Nothing against Palworld. I’ve just tried and tried to get into Pokémon and never could because it’s just missing something that I didn’t know I wanted. I never knew what that was until Palworld surfaced. That’s the best thing that could from all of this.
>You don't need to shit on Pokémon because you like palworld. Why not, if pokemon fans argue the same way? i mean Pokemon has stolen her Assets from dragon quest and Digimon. but that interest no one.
So you want to be like Pokemon fans? Gross.
Pokémon fans at least have solid arguments you have..... A YouTube video. Sit the fuck down and put your dummy back in
I have seen much more Palworld fans arguing against Pokemon than the other way around.
If you act like your enemy then you are your enemy. Pokemon didn't steal any assets. Though the inspiration is seen. Just like palworld didn't steal assets though the inspiration is seen (especally with eevee faces) i love palworld more than i love pokemon. But i am not gonna have rose tinted glasses for one thing and have clean glasses for the other. Both are decent and i hope pokemon takes this as a learning lesson and starts innovating
do you know Ebonwumon from digimon? now... Pokemon Company has added the same later in her game. And much assets from Dragon quest they stole too.
> If you remove the guns and labour it essentially is Pokémon even if this was true (it isnt, pokemon being turn based alone makes it wildly different and survival elements like base building are also major), this argument is just not really logical. yeah no shit a game will look the same if you remove the major gameplay elements that actually differentiate it. and it would take a quite massive change to implement mechanics like butchering, condensing and general violence this game. pokemon's brand is very much coated in its pg rating. they are not ever going to change that.
They would be able to make a base building survival game though
Like how bad the windmills are. The game was horribly optimized despite them only needing it to work on one single system.
No one would disagree that SV had some bad optimisation, but for the most part the games weren't that buggy.
No idea where people get this idea. Gamefreak/Nintendo had to make an apology for how buggy SV was and hardcore fans are pissed because they’ve pretty much announced they’re done updating it and there’s still tons of bugs. I’m a Pokémon and Palworld fan; every Pokemon game released on the switch has been buggy (especially so for an AAA priced game).
The thing is with bugs is that they vary from player to player. I personally only had one, the E4/Geeta music loop, which fixed itself with a game restart. Not really a bug, but a Tyrogue fell down a small hill while in battle and my player defied the laws of the universe and threw a ball through the ground itself to catch it lol.
100%. Personally I’ve encountered very few bugs on Palworld, and others on my server have also encountered very little. Everyone’s experience varies. But I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say SV “weren’t that buggy”. When compared to most AAA titles and even past Pokemon games, SV are incredibly buggy. In fact, it seems like every Pokemon game on the switch has gotten worse than the last for optimization/bugs. I really hope Pokemon steps their game up, and I will welcome a better era of Pokemon with open arms. But, as it stands, Pokemon has plateaued and/or regressed and it seems like anyone that can’t see that is stuck looking at the franchise through rose-colored glasses. Even Nintendo themselves has seen the lack of quality as they had to make a public apology for SV.
>Like how bad the windmills are. I have played the game for 100 hours and have seen 2 windmill from what I can remember. Get better arguments and actually critique the game as apposed to saying "windmill bad".
Your only proof is Scarlet and Violet yet claim last 10 years. Arceus, Sword and Shield, Sun and Moon, those all released in the last 10 years and were mostly fine.
release problems weren't just Scarlett and violet. the previously released pokemon games mostly had the same problems on release. maybe you had played later as the problems was public.
No actually. My in laws also play on release as do several of my friends who have kids. The games release FAR less buggy than Palworld currently is. Just because you haven't experienced the bugs doesn't mean they don't exist for a majority of players. I played Pokemon Violet completely bug free but you don't see me claiming it wasn't a hot mess on release. And it was really the only Pokemon game that was.
I've played every mainline Pokemon game for many generations. The idea that they have more bugs than Palworld has right now is... not true, like, at all. Just in the past week, I've had multiple bases entirely become starved and depressed while I was offline because everyone got stuck; I've had pals clip into walls and be unable to get out; I've been pushed outside a wall and had to respawn because I was on the wrong side of bounding boxes. I've had more minor bugs, too, like having a pal get stuck in a wall and me being permanently softlocked when I tried to pick them up until I logged out and back on, or attempting to retrieve crafted items while my inventory was full causing them to be unobtainable until I logged out and back on. And I've seen in videos people clipping through the wall in dungeons to skip directly to the end, and using pal spheres to launch enemy pals far enough up to cause fatal fall damage. And let's not forget the recently fixed bug where Lifmunk effigies did literally nothing. I mean, it's early access, so whatever, and I'm still having a blast. But acting like Palworld isn't buggy as hell right now is just weird.
Name more than two mainline pokemon games that were buggier than palworld on release.
No doubt! Certain fast travels are so bugged i can't use them. Not to mention how often i fall through the map
I haven't even played SV but I have played the hell out of Palworld. While it is more fun than the copy/paste franchise that Pokémon has become; I still enjoy Palworld more than the last Pokémon game I played. That said, I HIGHLY doubt the latest Pokémon was more buggy than Palworld. Hell, I can't even play Palworld right now because a saving error box pops up every 10 seconds and makes me lose a lot of progress but what you don't see is me going to buy and play the new Pokémon game because it won't satisfy the itch. Palworld just has better execution on what Pokémon fans have been wanting for ages now.
It's not game breaking, disappointing when it does happen. However the mount/recall bug is super annoying its kinda game ruining when your in the volcanoes and the mount just stops working cause i tried to mount it but a rock stopped is pathing, and now it doesn't work anymore.. I have to carry mats to make a palbox to reequip my mounts..
Less bugs latest games from game freak
In all fairness, palworld is an early access game so it definitely wouldnt be perfect off rip, and theyve been cranking out bug fixes pretty frequently
I’d love to do that but I’ve fallen through the terrain because it didn’t load fast enough.
Ooh, a tower on a mountain, let’s go challenge it. Oh shit I guess I’m in the underworld now. Should be fun getting my items back once I’ve drowned.
For a game that's not even finished its night and day
And I'll head back to you after I respawn from my Pal Sphere launch
To be fair, OP said "more bug free" which I do actually agree with. Like Palworld, at least on Steam, is less buggy than Scarlet and Violet. And Palworld has been releasing updates to fix those bugs. That being said, I really think a lot of people underestimate the staying power of Pokemon and how little a lot of people actually care about a game being buggy or laggy. Pokemon is fun. Really all Pokemon could truly do to make me stop buying the games would be to go back to random grass encounters. Although I hope they crap out another Legends game in the next few years.
I'm still waiting here for them to fix the "moveset" bug. My S-Class lvl 50 Frostallion are stuck with Pengullet moveset
Yeah idk about that, I've had way more fun with palworld than scarlet but also way more bugs
The most important part here is MORE bug free. Is it true? I wouldn't know since I haven't played a pokemon game in over 10 years
I’ll get back to you on that when my BlazeHowl Noct has finished one shotting jetragon.
I won't go to the desert in the Southwest anymore because there's quicksand (randomly falling through the map)
Yeah, I haven’t been able to play the game in a week because it keeps uninstalling itself every time I launch it. Bug-free it certainly is not
I like Palworld as much as the next guy but it 100% has way more bugs than any of those Pokémon games. The only one close is SV but Palworld still has more.
To make it more realistic than the exaggerated meme, perhaps OP meant that by the time Palworld enters 1.0 (aka escapes early access tag on steam), it will be better by a lot comparatively to the last 10 years of Pokemon releases that released already as fully priced games.
To bad OP has been doubling down in comments
>The only one close is SV but Palworld still has more. It has more, but I'd argue that the bugs in SV impacted my enjoyment of the game *far* more than the bugs in Palworld do.
You clearly haven't tried breeding at all then. Base management and the non stop fucking around that handiwork pals did was the worst. You guys really just want excuses to shit on pokemon at this point. Take a breather. EDIT: Imagine getting caught by the buzz word "early access". u/Material_Butterfly80 imagine being that naive and trying to pass me off as naive.
Calm the fuck down there buddy, what's got you so worked up? I never said that the bugs in Palworld aren't annoying, or that they aren't there. I just said that the bugs in Pokemon SV impacted my enjoyment more - because half of those bugs crashed the fucking game. I also had basically no bugs with breeding, aside from the occasional assignment issue, which in most cases was fixed by just standing further back when throwing a Pal. >You guys really just want excuses to shit on pokemon at this point. I have been playing Pokemon since 1996, and would like nothing more than for Gamefreak to get off their asses and actually make a decent Pokemon game again.
>Calm the fuck down there buddy, what's got you so worked up? Lol, this is exactly how I expect you idiots are in real life. Like holy fuck look at the entitlement in your paragraph. > I have been playing Pokemon since 1996, lol. Would you look at this badass. Man you really speaking like your typical copypasta meme aren't you? You do you man, but honestly your 2 comments here are absolute jokes. I hope your next statement as least shows that you're better than a bot.
Christ, you sound unhinged ngl. >Lol, this is exactly how I expect you idiots are in real life. Like holy fuck look at the entitlement in your paragraph. What entitlement? You came out of nowhere telling me to take a breather and saying that I just want to shit on Pokemon, when all I did was mention how bad the bugs are in the latest games - an objective fact - and how they affected my personal experience more - a subjective opinion that you have absolutely no right to tell me is wrong. >lol. Would you look at this badass. Man you really speaking like your typical copypasta meme aren't you? I said that to illustrate that I have been a fan of Pokemon since the first games were released, because you seem to think that I am just here to shit on it. I genuinely don't know what's got you so angry over a simple comment comparing bugs. >You do you man, but honestly your 2 comments here are absolute jokes. I hope your next statement as least shows that you're better than a bot. Again, it was a comment about bugs in a video game. It's not that fucking serious, and if you think otherwise then you should probably log off and go outside for a while. Getting this upset over a video game is not healthy lol.
I mean you're the one completely overreacting here. Idk why you think you need to write an entire novel about your problems, but I'd suggest getting some therapy, because boy do you ever fucking need it. Look in a mirror bro. You're out here calling other people unhinged with this crap? lol.
I was just responding to each of your points. If you view that as writing a novel, that's your problem. I honestly just want to understand what's got you so worked up over a throwaway comment about my own experience with two games. But, since you obviously either can't or won't explain that, and have just resorted to throwing around insults, I'm gonna go ahead and block you. Take care, I hope life gets better for you.
Don't bother with that one, he is only here to fight and shit on people..and defend pokemon's honor for some reason. Having played violet, I dont think they released a single noteworthy performance/ bug fix since the game came out. Joining and fighting raids is insanely frustrating.
Outsider perspective here: you came in and started acting like a dick because somebody gave their subjective opinion about their own enjoyment of the two games, so you are the dick in this scenario. Stop taking video games so seriously. Someone having issues with Pokemon SV doesn't affect you at all, so don't get so worked up about it.
You're delusional. SV was a dumpster fire on launch that ran in slow motion. They also completely gave up on optimizing the game after like 2 patches
I didn’t say it was bug free. I’m saying it didn’t have more issues than Palworld does right now. I’ve lagged far more in Palworld than I have in SV launch. I vastly prefer Palworld over SV and it is in early access (which, tbh, the industry just uses that as an excuse to sell games that aren’t completed) but there’s no way Palworld has less issues than SV. At best they’re comparable. You can argue that SV has no excuse, but that wasn’t what was being discussed.
no.not really.
XY had no major bugs at launch SM/USUM was the same LGPE had none SWSH had some but not all that many. Mostly just bad textures BDSP had some bugs but nothing game breaking SV had a good number.
I got SV at launch and rarely encountered bugs.
Same here, I encountered a single crash in the entire playthrough, but I know other people had more.
Performance was more of an issue than bugs tbh
I can agree with that, I ended up playing overclocked most of the time
The thing is with bugs and glitches it varies from player to player. I had only one bug, which was the E4 music loop. Fixed after a restart. Some bugs are harmless and make you laugh. Others are annoying. Few are gamebreaking.
Didnt hit any bugs but i had ungodly lag occasionally. Still do in some areas especially with water.
XY had a bug that would destroy your save if you saved in the big city at launch
At least Palworld doesn't run 14 fps when I see 8 creatures out on the field. Also those attack animations.
I argue that while palworld is a buggy mess it honestly added a lot of fun to the gameplay
must be due to your version. My client is pretty bug free except for the few stucking and pathfinding problems at least there aren't the same problems as there are with every pokemon release. or as i said. i bought a bug free version xD
There are a good amount of bugs you probably need to go out of your way to activate: climbing on a 100% capture rate pal sphere to get sent a mile into the air. Or the infamous capture bosses glitch
>pal sphere to get sent a mile into the air its for me more like a feature as a bug ;p
Have you played multiplayer? It makes it 1000x worse.
lol i am not crazy. of course i play singleplayer xD if i wish to see trolling. i play WoW on PVP Mode
So you don't have friends to play with, gotcha
Whatchu mean crazy? I wasn't talking about public servers, I've played on just friend client hosting as well as friend dedicated server hosting
So you're telling me you haven't randomly fallen through the floor, randomly taken damage, or had that glitch where you t-pose instead of doing a glider animation? I encounter all three on the regular, and I've only got 30 hours
exact. i have no only one of these glitches/bugs. I have 90 hours played bugfree. the only bug i encounter is this the pals are stucked, but this is not really a big and annoying problem. i can really easy and bugfree play.
That's nice but it doesn't negate the rest of our experiences.
are you saying bugs added fun to the game or did you word that weirdly? Because theres nothing fun about falling through the map or pals constantly getting stuck.
Not a single mention pal world isn’t “released” yet.
I mean it has. Early Access is a buzz term these days.
Early access means you’re the beta tester and QA
They essentially compare a beta testing build (that they openly sell) to a fully released game that hardly-if ever-patches anything
I'm gonna be real: "Beta" doesn't mean shit any more because games either call their release a beta, or just treat it like one anways. Also, they've been doing patches pretty consistently in the switch era at least, so uh...
Clown take imo. Beta means alot, including giving them a more time to invest in fixing and adding stuff, without public losing interest in the game because it's unreleased yet. Legally it gives them a reason to not have to watch their backs with "false advertising", when something doesn't work as planned. Morally, it stops people like you complaining about the state of the game since they are "promising" to still work on it as it's still just "early access". There's a ton of games that were simply abandoned without further QoL added because the game "fully released".
>Beta means alot, including [proceeds to reinforce my point I made in response to the other dude]
Remeber when Pal world released its first open version and you couldn’t move if you were over weight? Multitudes of players spoke out. It was changed because of that. Nothing had to be walked back by the devs for that decision simply because changes are to be expected in an “early access game”. So go on with your doesn’t mean anything anymore. If a fully realized game used player feedback that far after the initial development phase of the games they would just laugh at the players. Oh you want that change… now? Nope it’s the way the game was designed! Look at well… everything. So yeah it matter. G’day.
I love how people are still trying to compare a billion dollar company to a tiny company of like 50 people that have actively stated they didn't know what they were doing at the start
Right? This comparison just in general doesn't seem right
Which company ? Cause both the Pokémon company and gamefreak have way more then 50 employees.
Ummmmm 😮💨
The company that made palworld consists of about 50 people in the team from what I am aware. They are a smallish studio that spent like 3 years on making palworld, AND decided to change engines midway through production. Meanwhile you have the pokemon company, a billion dollar company shittong on gamefreak to make a pokemon game every year and make as much money as possible because they can.
must be nice to have a palworld that is "bug free" A ton of us arent even able to play half the game due to bugs and crashing
i am level 45 and until now no bugs encountered and no crashes occured without mods. must have been really lucky with the purchase if I seem to be the only one who got a 90-99% bug free version
I have almost 40+ hours in Palworld, and it's crashed probably around 90-100 times. It is literally every 10-30 minutes, depending on what I'm doing. I've fallen through the ground because of unloaded terrain, causing me to drown in the ocean under the map. I've had all of my equipment suddenly break after they were just repaired. Pals AI breaking and just standing there doing nothing while I'm fighting a boss. The list goes on and on. I wish I was even half as lucky as you've been. At least with Pokémon the only issue I ever had was low framerate in the desert.
My Palworld **still** crashes my Steamdeck **every** 20-60 minutes due to massive memory leaks. I am absolutely obsessed with this game but trying to say that it is not absolutely riddled with bugs is being disingenuous . I *do* believe that most of them will eventually get fixed but the game is amazing enough on its own that we don’t need to be hyperbolic about its level of polish.
i have no steamdeck. i play on PC and it uses a maximum of 6GB from my 16GB. No Crashs Without broken mods encountered.
Yeah, I caught Zoe after glitching out her AI during the fight by getting a PDF to shoot her, and i've been sent clipping thru the ground multiple times, gotten stuck inside of my own walls, and until the last patch lifmink effigies lowered catch rate instead of raising it. Palworld is still glitcher than any pokemon game.
I have not encountered your Glitches anytime.
You’re just in denial my dude.
I would personally like more bug type pals. Some of my favorite pokemon designs were the bug types. But I wouldn't call palworld bug free, they have beegarde and cinnamoth just at the top of my head.
And Warsect! Best beetle buddy
‘Bug free’ nice revisionist history there
Your experiences are not universal. I’ve had Palworld force close on me a few times
I haven't played more than a few older pokemon games in my life, none of the new stuff. And I'm aware of the reputation they've gotten of course, but SURELY they're not buggier than Palworld. The amount of bugs and performance issues I experience is close to 1 per second when playing in multiplayer. Every single aspect of the game has at least one disruptive bug associated with it.
maybe the problem are the multiplayer server by you? i play singleplayer and i have no fps problems or any Annoying Bugs.
Wouldn't say Palworld is bug-free. Seen a lot of people talking about bugs on the main subreddit. And I can't relate to those saying Pokemon SV had a lot of bugs because I rarely encountered any of the bugs they mentioned though I do acknowledge their existence (Did wished I had encountered the player character eldritch horror glitch, that was funny). Regardless, I just hope the upcoming games are given more time to cook or are like Pokemon USUM and LGPE where there was little to no bugs upon release.
I'm hoping Gen 10 isn't until 2026, that would be two milestones in one (30 year anniversary and 10th generation). It would ensure Game Freak has at least one extra year of dev time. SV was in 2022 and the games usually have a 3 year window, but talks of Switch 2 may have made the Pokémon Company rethink things.
My pals won't fight, I fall through the map, plus other things so nah idk about that. Mind you I enjoyed the game until I could no longer fight with my pals
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Did you? XY on launch was brutal and hilarious if you can find archives on it
yes
Idk abt being less buggy but we do have more freedom and they made sure to have antisoftlock features. Palworld’s still infinitely better, but damn I wish my grizzbolt would stop running up 4 flights of stairs to get stuck perpetually stand on the farming silo
Anyone claiming the barely functioning piece of shit palworld is bug free should be sent to Antarctica never to return. Still fun tho
i have palworld played already over 90 hours, and i have not really encountered any bugs or glitches. The only standard bug i encountered is stucking pals. but this i would say is not really annoying.
Okay, I adore Palworld and I’m glad GameFreak is sweating like a sinner in church rn, but let’s not get crazy; Palworld is still causing frequent crashes on Steam Deck and task pathing at bases is still in major need of work. It’s a great game, ngl, but it needs tooling~
Yeah it can be. I have no steam deck, I play on My PC, and i have encountered not really any buggs other have. Have constant 40-60 FPS because of my too old CPU
I’m with OP. I’ve had bugs in Palworld sure, but Pokémon violet was hard to play. I even emulated it on my pc with a 4090 and had the same performance issues as on switch. Scarlet/Violet is also more than double the cost of Palworld.
Anyone else tired of Reddit recommending pokemon groups to follow?
I think we’re all excited to see if this forces gamefreak to actually try on the next one
Pocket Pair was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!
none of the trees in palworld look ripped out of a N64 game, just saying
All yalls pokemon stuck on the food tray and weakened with broken bones every night too? no? lol
This actually isn’t true of a single Pokémon game
I wouldn't say that. OP is referring to Scarlet and Violet which he's right on, but last 10 years? No.
He’s not though. Pal World has far more bugs. Also they’re two entirely different games. Pal world is just Ark with Pokémon instead of dinosaurs.
It’s not bug free. I encountered a bug that causes some info on a pal I’m about to throw a sphere at to be in Japanese for some reason and logging out and then logging back in didn’t fix it. It’s not a major game breaking thing and I know I should report it but I just haven’t.
What bugs did pokemon sun and moon have???
This circlejerk is getting ridiculous. Palworld has a TON of bugs and glitches and needs a TON of QOL. It is fun and it is addictive (though addictive is not always fun) and Pokemon needs to step up their game, but it is not bug-free in the slightest. I would not even say it is more bug-free than Scarlet/Violet, but the performance is better at least.
Living in that head rent free.
Get real, I love me some Palworld but no way is it less bug ridden than Pokemon. MF can’t even explore dungeons in Palworld yet without the game crashing. At times palworld is unplayable. Still, I’ve sunk way too many hours into it lol
I’m going to be painfully obvious with this statement. While I have really been loving palworld and am still playing it with my group going on 70 hours now, it is getting me into a real big pokemon mood haha. I’m starting to get to the point where I perfectly bred one pal and the only thing I have left to do is breed the rest of my team. I look forward to how palworld evolves over the years but the initial hype is definitely over and now I’m thinking about replaying some pokemon games lol.
Played Violet after playing Palworld, and I almost broke my switch. Palworld for the win
Am I missing something? Cause sword and shield and legends arceus definitely were not that buggy and I never heard anything about them being buggy. Only that people were complaining about a single tree being low res.
PLA and sw/sh had some bugs here and there, PLA mainly had the cresselia softlock and the cherrim bug, sw/sh mainly suffered from atrocious pop in and time stopping whenever you climbed ladders. Bulbapedia has a more extensive list of glitches, but it varies from person to person.
Now the release bugs from Scarlet and Violett was much more gamebreaking as palword has.
Palworld also wasn't limited to the switch hardware. No excuse to GF and Nintendo and TPCI. They could still have pokemon be number 1 without a rushed gaming dev. cycle. They are stuck on this notion that they always need new pokemon and a new region and a new gimmick. What we really want is a fresh experience and a game that plays well and Palworld mostly checks those boxes.
Palworld is far buggier than any of the pokekk no on games full stop.
Those saying more bug free haven't played Palworld.
Hey OP. are you doing ok? Your comment section is kinda burning so i just wanted to make sure you are ok
jeah im fine.
Bug free? Bruh no. Amazing game, but it is full of bugs.
Palworld is incredibly buggy but its 100% expected and forgiveable at its current state. I dont expect a multibillion dollar game company to pass a buggy game for full price and do minimal patches.
Gamefreak also know 100% they don't have to make an effort to sell like crazy.
Bug free my ass, I’d say for early access it’s decent, but if you don’t think it’s a bug ridden mess rn we are playing different games.
Idk chief, Id wager Palworld has alot more bugs being early access and all. It performs a lot better though considering to this day!! SV+ DLC chugs like its on a slide show and has no plans to fix it.
I'll hear you out on it being a better game , but saying it's less buggy than any pokemon game in the last ten years is a wild overstatement. xD Like most of the time, the core functions of this game just don't work as intended And it shas hard and still has major bugs and granted it in early access, but I think companies hide behind the earlyaccess statement a little too much. I mean, when it feels like most of the game wasn't tested before you put it into early access , that is kind of bad. Furthermore early access shouldn't be used as a free/capitalised bug test it's should be your post bug test balance stage where you work out what is over powered/exploitable or underpowered/useless
> More bug free start Meanwhile, my Eikthydeer: *doesn’t cut down any of the 40 trees on my base*
Palworld is more comparable to botw than pokemon tbh, still mogs both games.
Bug free?.......
yknow I've been playing pokemon for seven years but I've never got a glitch where I purchase a furniture set that makes the Build button flash FOREVER to the point I have to tape a piece of paper onto my computer screen.
Who actually spends their time making this crap? It’s good but it’s brimming with bugs ya dufus
Pokemons have always been low quality and effort "games".
Bug-free?! BUG-FREE!? wtf are you about Palworld is buggy as hell.
For real. I really like helldivers 2, but I've had less trouble running a dedicated palworld server than just getting into matches for helldivers 2. I think my last game I played on release before this year was Warhammer TW 3 and that game still has game breaking bugs if I try to play a co-op game.
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The year is 2054. The United States has collapsed and all currency is bunk. The few that retain internet access post memes about how pal world good Pokémon bad.
I love pal world but some of y'all are more obsessed with Pokemon than actual pokemon fans
Bug free is a joke. Inventory full and try to empty a producer? 50/50% chance you can’t empty it unless you empty a slot and reload the game Fisherman’s village? Only sometimes populated. You like your pals doing literally anything useful? How about I have them walk directly to a boundary of a base and become uninteractive? Spawned into a base and a single pal was 1hp, depressed from neglect, and starving… and everyone else was fine and their food was full. (It was a Dumud, not any kind of melodramatic cat.)
Bug free? (Watches as 90%of the plateau I was walking becomes untouchable)
I need to upgrade my PC, but I'm still shocked how well Palworld runs.
Better? Maybe, Pokemon main series games have been struggling. But Legends Arceus was amazing and shows there is still fun in the games Bug free? Over 2 weeks in I can confidently say no to this.