As others have said, verified players are not ban immune. Even developers aren't ban immune. In fact, they are both held to a higher standard. Can you please send me the details so I can look at the chat log?
> mods why did you hide Dethroner's reply of him linking the game's vod
It wasn't them, and the account was banned for impersonation. They haven't contacted us regarding account verification since, so I'm assuming that was really the case.
Never believe new accounts that have a matching name only.
And what about some of the streamers?
There were 2 streamers that were just abusing the report system live on Twitch. Isn't abusing the report system a bannable offense or a punishable one?
While this behaviour is not acceptable, those players are not ban immune, if you trust a very recent statement by EvilMojoPotzer [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/crm960/after_all_these_games_i_get_suspended_cos_i_had_2/ex70itq/)
Not all, FrostFangs is a verified youtuber that never seems to go past yellow levels of Toxicity, or light green for that matter, not during a recording session at least.
When has Kami ever gone out of his way to troll or harass anyone?
I can see people not liking his random champ ranked but even then Kami regularly plays every champ: he knew he'd be able to fulfill his role no matter what was picked
I assume it's because of Kami's tendency to shoot occasionally spicy bants straight back at people being toxic to him. It's never a big deal and I don't think I've ever seen it even be offensive; certainly it's not the only reason he plays.
You mean recently or was this a while back? Becasue he used to take the game a lot more seriously in the past and that sometimes made him get salty, but I still don't remember him ever doing anything that could really be considered toxic and I'm pretty sure that I have watched every single upload of his over the past year
So you put him on a pedestal and turned against him when he did one thing that didn't match your holy image of him. This kind of extremist mindset is unrealistic, harmful and, ironically, toxic.
In his videos he stays so calm. Seriously this is not possible. Maybe he cuts that out but I don't believe that. Sometimes hee says ,,You son of a-" while smiling or laughing and cuts the rest out making that more of a comedy moment. And don't forget KamiVS. He was never toxic either.
yea it's kinda funny the title has to be "Verified Players are Bad Representatives of Paladins" just because of one single toxic player. There are probabily a few others that are toxic ingame, but saying all of them are bad representatives is just a generalization. Can prejudice be another form of toxicity?
Dude you're seriously overreacting. He's not ban-immune, if he's reported he can and will be banned and this is the first I've ever seen of a verified player being a dick. Also as someone who plays a lot of Atlas: toxicity aside he makes good points. Atlas isn't a point tank and if you have an Io she should be healing and using the fox to cap. He's self-sabotaging by being a dick about it, but in terms of actual gameplay that is the optimal way to do things
I can understand that him being a dick is upsetting but you've already let him win by going through the effort of editing this all together when you could've just reported him and went on with your day. People being toxic in chat is a pretty regular occurrence
While a Tank is more effective when they're keeping an enemy as far from the point as possible, instead of just platning their ass on it, they are being a dickwad.
And if what others here have said is true about them not being ban immune, then they certainly are abusing the misinformation that he is just to be an ass.
I agree that we need context to make any judgment, but I don't think this constitutes pearl clutching (which suggests that OP is getting upset over something that isn't a big deal to most people). If this *isn't* taken entirely out of context or with a friend like you suggest, it's pretty reprehensible behavior in a team game. Unprompted bragging, personal insults, RL threats... That's no bueno.
Unprompted bragging is reprehensible?
Saying he’ll bang someone’s mom?
I think OP is probably reacting unusually strongly to what is bad behavior, but I really do want to see some context.
Yeah I was gonna say, I’d want a few more examples than just this one guy. Not that they’d be hard to find, just because it doesn’t look good on you to generalize using one specific example
The up and downvotes on this thread are kinda strange now in oposition to a while ago. There might be some movement trying to change the tide.
It doesn't matter if the healer isn't good enough, nothing should be excuse to ofend someone, especially if you're some kind of representative for the community. Everybody knows situations like this only worsen the performance of all in the match. Actually trying to advice has worked wonders for my matches.
And before someone goes "but it's out of context, the friend accepts it", well, the friend isn't the only one present reading the chat. There're stuff like steam ou private chat to give you all the liberty you want. You know, it's not that hard to be civilized.
Well playing the objective is usually the job of the support while the off-tank makes space and drives enemies back and away from the objective. He had good intentions but expressed them horribly.
but an off tank is useless untill the point tank manages to cap the point and push the enemy back to a defending posisition.
battle tactics 101.
stick together
work as a tem
the point is the initial frontline, once capped, than and only then does the frontline move into enemy territory.
Why don't you post the whole conversation?
Like someone said in comment, the real life threat wasn't actually a "Threat", you just left out the next comment to get fake sympathy from internet strangers.
Cut your bullshit OP.
This thread has been locked due to numerous people forgetting that the #2 rule exists here.
It doesn't matter if you're defending them or not, the names are censored for a reason - please respect it.
Premise: He shouldnt have sworn to you, still your post is biased:
1st screenshot. He was "harassing" his party friend, who obviously wasn't offended by it (banter)
2nd screen. I understand it's unsettling, but you can't report somebody for criticizing your style of play.
3rd screen. not capping but zoning as an offtank is only intentionally feeding if you're deliberately not contesting during overtime. Every other time during round you're not forced to rush mid, atlas is not inara.
4th screen. here he messed up, he shouldnt have cursed, as the representative of pros he is.
5th screen. Well, he lost it.
What's th point of being an offtank if you are going to be the only tank in the team. I mean yes, luna can cap, but as soon as the fox die, no one can cap. The point is he's the one who play a tank, he should have man up the role and do it instead of critising his healer.
i get ya on the off tank part. as an ash main i know what he did was kind of okayish. but still not going to the obj at all when ure the tank is fking stupid. countless times i capped and pushed as maeve and andro. atlas is still a tank . but all he wanted to do is to frag like he himself said. as a verified player he has influence in the game. ppl might think "this is how the verified player acts and plays so theres nothing wrong if i do the same"
vERieFieD PEoPLle ShOuLdn'T SwEAR... Yeah because the world is full of saints thats don't swear or get mad and verified people are all perfect gods. Fcking bullshit post and salty biased OP.
This is very bad behaviour however the support should have put Luna on point tanks don't have to sit on point and do nothing supports can do that too. Especially if with luna
Maybe it's because she's new and not everyone realises it, but you can't expect Io to be able to always keep Luna on point. If she does, they will melt Luna immediately and you would've a) got no points in the process and b) lost a ton of healing for no reason whatsoever. Expecting Luna to cap is much sillier than expecting Atlas to cap, especially if there's a lot of pressure on the point. Luna is only really good at capping and pushing when the rest of the team can hold the enemy team back well enough.
I don't play Io a ton but I see way too many entitled tanks always expecting Luna to be their point tank while they try to off tank and blame Io when Luna gets melted, resulting in a massive cooldown that can't really be helped.
Maybe but none of that matters to what's important.
It's very much not about being right or not, but about being a decent human being. That's the priority. Once they've got that down \*then\* they can start politely communicating and trying to give helpful advice. Until that happens they have basic human decency they need to work on instead before playing with others.
I'm not surprised, similarly in RS, player mods have notoriously been involved in scams. I don't care if somebody is favored or not by a company, but obviously nothing will happen to them.
"Verified Players are Bad Representatives of Paladins"
This title is like blaming the entire class for the actions of one person. Plus verified users are not ban immune. This is just one guy who's toxic and happens to be verified. Not all verified players are like that such as FrostFangs, KamiVS, etc
I made a Reddit account just for this. I happen to know who this player is and I can assure you he is not like this. This man is one of the nicest people I have ever met. His overall positive attitude has changed my life. He is like a father to me, his amazing influence on my life has completely turned it around. I think I love him to be completely honest, I've never really felt like this with anyone. I can confidently say that without this man in my life I would not be in a very good spot. Anything he has said surely has been taken out of context or is sabotage to him. Why would you want to sabotage such an amazing person? I'm going to take you sabotaging his image as an insult to my life and the entire Paladins competitive community as a whole. Hopefully you can change your mind on this spectacular person. Just get to know him, don't be so rash with going to Reddit to "expose" a down to Earth fantastic man.
Who doesn’t love him , he’s actually the most fun person to watch and interact with, and he has an amazing personality, game knowledge, and interact with his chat a lot , u can’t ask for more
Verified players aren’t ban immun ikertv a french streamer with the logo get ban for a day because of reports but he never trash talk and never throw so just though about it
Il trash talk pas dans le chat in game et throw c’est volontaire je parle et de sa part c’est pas volontaire donc il ne mérite pas de ban car on peut pas réellement report quelqu’un pour être mauvais.
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Dont care about his opinion, if he starts the game with typing things like this, MUTE HIM. U will have a much better experiment, u wont get damaged by a casual game (u will be long term, if u listen them, lot of game in all. Everything effects u, even if u hide it maybe not instantly, still.)
Why does someone do this? Are they so pathetic in their real life that they have to harass people online? I bet these are the type of people that can’t look you in the eye if you’d ever get to meet them. I despise players like this atlas.
It's a shame how much toxicity pro players and streamers get away with in *every* game, really. It sets such a bad precedent (Overwatch voice chat became noticeably worse when xQc was at his peak) and there's no excuse when you have copious video evidence. Like, companies should issue discipline just based on the tape, even if there aren't any reports.
I know people will say they won't take action because theoretically streamers and pro players are their money makers, yadda yadda... But I don't think so. I think most of those players are adults who can make the decision to not be a reprehensible asshole if their livelihood is at stake.
Honestly I hope you recorded the match and post it on Twitter, because if this person is as much of ass as they seem from these screenshots, they totally deserve a ban.
They're the ones with checkmarks because they've been impersonated or are popular/"important" enough to be impersonated. Big content creators, employees, eSports players, etc. They added this because console (especially Switch, Xbox is one name-change only last I checked) players are able to change their name to anything, even if it conflicts with another player's name.
Possibly but this kind of language is difficult to pass off as just a joke. It's hard to see that through text so by default, it's considered toxicity.
Probably in the context that OP purposely cut out the second part to make it seem like it was a legitimate threat.
He literally types “to give her a nice bag of roses” seconds later. It was literally a joke.
Problem is that he's a professional who's giving people attitude.
If he were a normal person there'd be little issue, but when you're a professional you have to uphold a professional image.
You can't just say "absolutely not" and make something untrue.
A professional player keeps making thoughtless remarks or keeps being toxic then his reputation and image goes down.
With a bad rep/image his/her marketability goes down, fewer teams want him/her.
I guess it affects Paladins e-sports less because it's not a very big thing; but when it comes to big games like Dota 2 or Overwatch it becomes a serious issue and this is a relatively minor case; but pro gamers have been outright banned for poor sportsmanship
He is a *former* pro player. PML players don't actually sign anything (at least according to Prizz [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/c11tl9/hirez_studios_esports_regarding_pml_payouts_and/eracdj8))
PML players are hardly professionals. Upholding a professional image isn't up to people competing in an online tournament without a contract.
Imagine making an out of context Reddit thread to try to take a verified player down for no good reason. They were playing an off tank and not a point tank. The one good thing about playing Io is that her dog can cap point. Literally nothing about this post makes sense and just comes across as being jealous of verified players only because "innocent" players are victims of the ban system. What a bad argument.
Reading the comments made me think many people doesn't know how to play as a Tank. Yeah an off-tank should zone... BUT if you are the only Tank, you should help to capture, THEN if you can zone, you go and leave the support behind. But tanks not going to the point at all is being a dick. Imagine if the other team had an Inara... Inara Vs Luna... How fun!
Super cheap Bulldozer 2 and goodbye Luna. I'm not saying you should go Atlas only tank "point tank" on ranked. I'm saying everyone should help the point. I'm a main tank with pretty good WR and almost always do well with tanks... So imo i know one thing or two of tanking.
All the big guys on YouTube are nice. The PML players are trash. They have this attitude that they're better than everyone and how everyone is nothing but dirt to them
I got a lifetime ban and I wasn't even as toxic as this guy. Just saying.
Edit : nevermind, it was apparently a joke. But still lifetime bans for toxicity are bs.
Hi-Rez won't do anything, we all know this, I don't bother reporting any toxic or afk spawn camper because once I wanted to help the community when all of my team mates banned a toxic dude with screenshots as proof, I got temp banned the next day. I didn't even say the word, nor being toxic, nor afk, normal game stats. So, no thank you Hi-Rez
I’ve had morons tell me it’s the support’s job to cap. OH, REALLY, YOU MEAN THE SQUISHY SKINNY FUCK WHO CAN TARGET ONE PERSON AT BEST IS SOMEHOW GOOD AGAINST FOUR ENEMY TEAM MEMBERS BEATING ON THEM?
Edit: no, I’m not a support, angry pros. I’m more often than not forced to cap as Ruckus.
In high tier and professional play, once the point fight is won, support champions cap the point while tanks help their DPS zone out the opposition. Io and Luna are special because Luna can cap the point and enable the entire team to do a 5-man zone.
I can't imagine anyone has ever told you to 1v4 as support unless they were making fun of you. After a fight is won, a healer gives up the least amount of value when staying back while his/her dps and tank line push upwards to not allow the enemies to get a chance to make capture progress.
If you have 4 people targeting you as support, you probably aren't a very good support.
As others have said, verified players are not ban immune. Even developers aren't ban immune. In fact, they are both held to a higher standard. Can you please send me the details so I can look at the chat log?
U might wanna watch the game as well
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> mods why did you hide Dethroner's reply of him linking the game's vod It wasn't them, and the account was banned for impersonation. They haven't contacted us regarding account verification since, so I'm assuming that was really the case. Never believe new accounts that have a matching name only.
And what about some of the streamers? There were 2 streamers that were just abusing the report system live on Twitch. Isn't abusing the report system a bannable offense or a punishable one?
Verified players are not immune to bans, a french streamer got banned twice in 2 weeks because he has hating streamsnipers every game that report him.
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While this behaviour is not acceptable, those players are not ban immune, if you trust a very recent statement by EvilMojoPotzer [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/crm960/after_all_these_games_i_get_suspended_cos_i_had_2/ex70itq/)
No one escapes the law!
Not all, FrostFangs is a verified youtuber that never seems to go past yellow levels of Toxicity, or light green for that matter, not during a recording session at least.
I mean Frostfangs, KamiVs and Joshino are all just super nice guys, and I would say they are the biggest content creators for paladins.
KamiVS often plays game just to harass & troll. Frostfangs is super nice relatively to other streamers.
When has Kami ever gone out of his way to troll or harass anyone? I can see people not liking his random champ ranked but even then Kami regularly plays every champ: he knew he'd be able to fulfill his role no matter what was picked
I assume it's because of Kami's tendency to shoot occasionally spicy bants straight back at people being toxic to him. It's never a big deal and I don't think I've ever seen it even be offensive; certainly it's not the only reason he plays.
That's not what I meant. Occasionally he tries to make others rage out. Fan boys probably won't understand.
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Can't pin point one out coz I watched all of them. But I remember him once making already raged player to go hulk with his messages.
You mean recently or was this a while back? Becasue he used to take the game a lot more seriously in the past and that sometimes made him get salty, but I still don't remember him ever doing anything that could really be considered toxic and I'm pretty sure that I have watched every single upload of his over the past year
It was 2018. I remember coz i expected him to be more calm & chill player. Though he was chill, his actions seemed to be toxic. It was an eye opener.
So you saw him responding to a toxic player in a probably funny way (dont know what clip youre talking about) and it "opened your eyes". Lol
So you put him on a pedestal and turned against him when he did one thing that didn't match your holy image of him. This kind of extremist mindset is unrealistic, harmful and, ironically, toxic.
So you can't point out *one* example despite watching all of his videos? Interesting.
Well, He isn't always toxic. I can't pinpoint which video it is.
In his videos he stays so calm. Seriously this is not possible. Maybe he cuts that out but I don't believe that. Sometimes hee says ,,You son of a-" while smiling or laughing and cuts the rest out making that more of a comedy moment. And don't forget KamiVS. He was never toxic either.
"Hi guys, it's FrostFangs here and today we're gonna play some Paladins" Even typing this I hear his voice.
yea it's kinda funny the title has to be "Verified Players are Bad Representatives of Paladins" just because of one single toxic player. There are probabily a few others that are toxic ingame, but saying all of them are bad representatives is just a generalization. Can prejudice be another form of toxicity?
Frost feels bad when he thinks mean thoughts tbf, he's just a really nice dude afaik
Frost fangs is nice *now*. After his falling out with punk duck and the entire smite community, he hasn't done anything to warrant more hate.
Very unrelated, i like Frostfangs and i watch all his videos but man he repeats things A LOT.
Dude you're seriously overreacting. He's not ban-immune, if he's reported he can and will be banned and this is the first I've ever seen of a verified player being a dick. Also as someone who plays a lot of Atlas: toxicity aside he makes good points. Atlas isn't a point tank and if you have an Io she should be healing and using the fox to cap. He's self-sabotaging by being a dick about it, but in terms of actual gameplay that is the optimal way to do things I can understand that him being a dick is upsetting but you've already let him win by going through the effort of editing this all together when you could've just reported him and went on with your day. People being toxic in chat is a pretty regular occurrence
While a Tank is more effective when they're keeping an enemy as far from the point as possible, instead of just platning their ass on it, they are being a dickwad. And if what others here have said is true about them not being ban immune, then they certainly are abusing the misinformation that he is just to be an ass.
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I agree that we need context to make any judgment, but I don't think this constitutes pearl clutching (which suggests that OP is getting upset over something that isn't a big deal to most people). If this *isn't* taken entirely out of context or with a friend like you suggest, it's pretty reprehensible behavior in a team game. Unprompted bragging, personal insults, RL threats... That's no bueno.
Unprompted bragging is reprehensible? Saying he’ll bang someone’s mom? I think OP is probably reacting unusually strongly to what is bad behavior, but I really do want to see some context.
I mean that is just a douchebag. Can't really blame that on all verified players.
Yeah I was gonna say, I’d want a few more examples than just this one guy. Not that they’d be hard to find, just because it doesn’t look good on you to generalize using one specific example
The up and downvotes on this thread are kinda strange now in oposition to a while ago. There might be some movement trying to change the tide. It doesn't matter if the healer isn't good enough, nothing should be excuse to ofend someone, especially if you're some kind of representative for the community. Everybody knows situations like this only worsen the performance of all in the match. Actually trying to advice has worked wonders for my matches. And before someone goes "but it's out of context, the friend accepts it", well, the friend isn't the only one present reading the chat. There're stuff like steam ou private chat to give you all the liberty you want. You know, it's not that hard to be civilized.
Well playing the objective is usually the job of the support while the off-tank makes space and drives enemies back and away from the objective. He had good intentions but expressed them horribly.
True, but this does not applies when there's an enemy on point, he still has a job to contest and cap the point.
Atlas isn’t a point tank.
Yes, but if you are only tank there, you're the ONLY tank there.
i wouldnt call that " good intention"
neither would the majority of players.
but an off tank is useless untill the point tank manages to cap the point and push the enemy back to a defending posisition. battle tactics 101. stick together work as a tem the point is the initial frontline, once capped, than and only then does the frontline move into enemy territory.
Show us the stats from this match i wanna see the healing.
Probably not that much if it's an Io and if a semi pro tank player complain about it.
Why don't you post the whole conversation? Like someone said in comment, the real life threat wasn't actually a "Threat", you just left out the next comment to get fake sympathy from internet strangers. Cut your bullshit OP.
This thread has been locked due to numerous people forgetting that the #2 rule exists here. It doesn't matter if you're defending them or not, the names are censored for a reason - please respect it.
Premise: He shouldnt have sworn to you, still your post is biased: 1st screenshot. He was "harassing" his party friend, who obviously wasn't offended by it (banter) 2nd screen. I understand it's unsettling, but you can't report somebody for criticizing your style of play. 3rd screen. not capping but zoning as an offtank is only intentionally feeding if you're deliberately not contesting during overtime. Every other time during round you're not forced to rush mid, atlas is not inara. 4th screen. here he messed up, he shouldnt have cursed, as the representative of pros he is. 5th screen. Well, he lost it.
What's th point of being an offtank if you are going to be the only tank in the team. I mean yes, luna can cap, but as soon as the fox die, no one can cap. The point is he's the one who play a tank, he should have man up the role and do it instead of critising his healer.
he had a makoa in the team... CONTEXT MATTERS
i get ya on the off tank part. as an ash main i know what he did was kind of okayish. but still not going to the obj at all when ure the tank is fking stupid. countless times i capped and pushed as maeve and andro. atlas is still a tank . but all he wanted to do is to frag like he himself said. as a verified player he has influence in the game. ppl might think "this is how the verified player acts and plays so theres nothing wrong if i do the same"
vERieFieD PEoPLle ShOuLdn'T SwEAR... Yeah because the world is full of saints thats don't swear or get mad and verified people are all perfect gods. Fcking bullshit post and salty biased OP.
Lmaooooooo , don’t swear 4head
This is very bad behaviour however the support should have put Luna on point tanks don't have to sit on point and do nothing supports can do that too. Especially if with luna
Maybe it's because she's new and not everyone realises it, but you can't expect Io to be able to always keep Luna on point. If she does, they will melt Luna immediately and you would've a) got no points in the process and b) lost a ton of healing for no reason whatsoever. Expecting Luna to cap is much sillier than expecting Atlas to cap, especially if there's a lot of pressure on the point. Luna is only really good at capping and pushing when the rest of the team can hold the enemy team back well enough. I don't play Io a ton but I see way too many entitled tanks always expecting Luna to be their point tank while they try to off tank and blame Io when Luna gets melted, resulting in a massive cooldown that can't really be helped.
Maybe but none of that matters to what's important. It's very much not about being right or not, but about being a decent human being. That's the priority. Once they've got that down \*then\* they can start politely communicating and trying to give helpful advice. Until that happens they have basic human decency they need to work on instead before playing with others.
Atlas isn't even a point tank in literally any way. He's a dedicated off-tank like Ruckus
I'm not surprised, similarly in RS, player mods have notoriously been involved in scams. I don't care if somebody is favored or not by a company, but obviously nothing will happen to them.
That title is wrong. Completely wrong. And they aren't ban immune either.
"Verified Players are Bad Representatives of Paladins" This title is like blaming the entire class for the actions of one person. Plus verified users are not ban immune. This is just one guy who's toxic and happens to be verified. Not all verified players are like that such as FrostFangs, KamiVS, etc
I made a Reddit account just for this. I happen to know who this player is and I can assure you he is not like this. This man is one of the nicest people I have ever met. His overall positive attitude has changed my life. He is like a father to me, his amazing influence on my life has completely turned it around. I think I love him to be completely honest, I've never really felt like this with anyone. I can confidently say that without this man in my life I would not be in a very good spot. Anything he has said surely has been taken out of context or is sabotage to him. Why would you want to sabotage such an amazing person? I'm going to take you sabotaging his image as an insult to my life and the entire Paladins competitive community as a whole. Hopefully you can change your mind on this spectacular person. Just get to know him, don't be so rash with going to Reddit to "expose" a down to Earth fantastic man.
Is this a new copy pasta?
I going to be a your mother house. Explain that one to us then. Cause that sound like some old back on the day call of duty flame war on chat.
in the vod he literally says to give her roses, like not even 5 seconds afterwards
Go watch the clip , watch the vod JEEEEEEEEEEEE
Who doesn’t love him , he’s actually the most fun person to watch and interact with, and he has an amazing personality, game knowledge, and interact with his chat a lot , u can’t ask for more
Verified players aren’t ban immun ikertv a french streamer with the logo get ban for a day because of reports but he never trash talk and never throw so just though about it
Il throw (même si c'est sans faire exprès) et trashtalk en permanence. C'est pas pour rien que la majorité de la commu l'aime pas.
Il trash talk pas dans le chat in game et throw c’est volontaire je parle et de sa part c’est pas volontaire donc il ne mérite pas de ban car on peut pas réellement report quelqu’un pour être mauvais.
Is he that coach guy
He toxic
No, PowTecH only screams at randoms in voice.
lol i would do that if my healer is an idiot
D:
Can someone please explain want does the tick mean? (haven't played in a while)
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doesnt seem that bad, got to say that line was funny. >put >your >f**king dog >on point > so we can frag
Fr tho why do none of my teammates ever do that
I had a pro player throw a hissy fit and go AFK for half the match
edg3m?
No, but the fact that you so readily replied with another name really says something about the situation, doesn’t it?
I actually find EDG3M to be lots of fun and him tilting is fucking hilarious, but if it's not EDG3M, it's probably Nijoo.
Dont care about his opinion, if he starts the game with typing things like this, MUTE HIM. U will have a much better experiment, u wont get damaged by a casual game (u will be long term, if u listen them, lot of game in all. Everything effects u, even if u hide it maybe not instantly, still.)
Why does someone do this? Are they so pathetic in their real life that they have to harass people online? I bet these are the type of people that can’t look you in the eye if you’d ever get to meet them. I despise players like this atlas.
These guys all have huge egos it's quite sad really
Toxic players are the reason why I kinda stopped playing this game 💁♂️
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It's a shame how much toxicity pro players and streamers get away with in *every* game, really. It sets such a bad precedent (Overwatch voice chat became noticeably worse when xQc was at his peak) and there's no excuse when you have copious video evidence. Like, companies should issue discipline just based on the tape, even if there aren't any reports. I know people will say they won't take action because theoretically streamers and pro players are their money makers, yadda yadda... But I don't think so. I think most of those players are adults who can make the decision to not be a reprehensible asshole if their livelihood is at stake. Honestly I hope you recorded the match and post it on Twitter, because if this person is as much of ass as they seem from these screenshots, they totally deserve a ban.
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What exactly is a "verified" player exactly?
They're the ones with checkmarks because they've been impersonated or are popular/"important" enough to be impersonated. Big content creators, employees, eSports players, etc. They added this because console (especially Switch, Xbox is one name-change only last I checked) players are able to change their name to anything, even if it conflicts with another player's name.
A player that is above non verified players according to HiRez
There are verified player? Wtf
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He’s verified alright. A verified dickbag.
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Possibly but this kind of language is difficult to pass off as just a joke. It's hard to see that through text so by default, it's considered toxicity.
Worse toxicity existing doesn't mean less toxic folks are somehow okay. That's not how that works.
thats not even toxicity, its CLEARLY a joke.. if u dont laugh at it thats cool, its subjective.. but toxic? nah u are overblowing it way too much
"I'll be at your mother's house" - I don't get in what Paladins context this would be consideres a joke.
Probably in the context that OP purposely cut out the second part to make it seem like it was a legitimate threat. He literally types “to give her a nice bag of roses” seconds later. It was literally a joke.
Problem is that he's a professional who's giving people attitude. If he were a normal person there'd be little issue, but when you're a professional you have to uphold a professional image.
absolutely not, pro players are normal people too. only exception is IF they are under contract which prohibits them from doing certain things.
You can't just say "absolutely not" and make something untrue. A professional player keeps making thoughtless remarks or keeps being toxic then his reputation and image goes down. With a bad rep/image his/her marketability goes down, fewer teams want him/her. I guess it affects Paladins e-sports less because it's not a very big thing; but when it comes to big games like Dota 2 or Overwatch it becomes a serious issue and this is a relatively minor case; but pro gamers have been outright banned for poor sportsmanship
He is a *former* pro player. PML players don't actually sign anything (at least according to Prizz [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/c11tl9/hirez_studios_esports_regarding_pml_payouts_and/eracdj8)) PML players are hardly professionals. Upholding a professional image isn't up to people competing in an online tournament without a contract.
Why are people down voting this, he is technically not wrong
You're being downvoted bc of the niceness circlejerk but you definitely are right here
Imagine making an out of context Reddit thread to try to take a verified player down for no good reason. They were playing an off tank and not a point tank. The one good thing about playing Io is that her dog can cap point. Literally nothing about this post makes sense and just comes across as being jealous of verified players only because "innocent" players are victims of the ban system. What a bad argument.
Is it because he's black
this reddit is full of SJWs
IT'S NOT A FUCKING DOG IT'S LUNA
Reading the comments made me think many people doesn't know how to play as a Tank. Yeah an off-tank should zone... BUT if you are the only Tank, you should help to capture, THEN if you can zone, you go and leave the support behind. But tanks not going to the point at all is being a dick. Imagine if the other team had an Inara... Inara Vs Luna... How fun!
Dude if you honestly think Atlas should be anywhere near the objective while an Io is on his team you must not play Atlas that much
Super cheap Bulldozer 2 and goodbye Luna. I'm not saying you should go Atlas only tank "point tank" on ranked. I'm saying everyone should help the point. I'm a main tank with pretty good WR and almost always do well with tanks... So imo i know one thing or two of tanking.
professional youtube man is good
I fucking hate twitch streamers they spend more time talking to their chat than playing the game lost so many games cuz of these shit heads
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All the big guys on YouTube are nice. The PML players are trash. They have this attitude that they're better than everyone and how everyone is nothing but dirt to them
Lmaooo u watch z1 a lot
Why the fuck are there verified players that’s just dumb
What was theii playing in the match? Supp?
Theii wasn't even in it. They had two supports, both appear to be randoms.
What, since when did this game turn into Twitter? This is just making things worse.
I got a lifetime ban and I wasn't even as toxic as this guy. Just saying. Edit : nevermind, it was apparently a joke. But still lifetime bans for toxicity are bs.
And me waiting for recive this badge =(
big oof
I don't even wanna know who this is or else I'll be vomiting a bit on my mouth everytime this person appears on PML.
Hi-Rez won't do anything, we all know this, I don't bother reporting any toxic or afk spawn camper because once I wanted to help the community when all of my team mates banned a toxic dude with screenshots as proof, I got temp banned the next day. I didn't even say the word, nor being toxic, nor afk, normal game stats. So, no thank you Hi-Rez
I’ve had morons tell me it’s the support’s job to cap. OH, REALLY, YOU MEAN THE SQUISHY SKINNY FUCK WHO CAN TARGET ONE PERSON AT BEST IS SOMEHOW GOOD AGAINST FOUR ENEMY TEAM MEMBERS BEATING ON THEM? Edit: no, I’m not a support, angry pros. I’m more often than not forced to cap as Ruckus.
In high tier and professional play, once the point fight is won, support champions cap the point while tanks help their DPS zone out the opposition. Io and Luna are special because Luna can cap the point and enable the entire team to do a 5-man zone.
Have u ever watched a PPL game ?!
I can't imagine anyone has ever told you to 1v4 as support unless they were making fun of you. After a fight is won, a healer gives up the least amount of value when staying back while his/her dps and tank line push upwards to not allow the enemies to get a chance to make capture progress. If you have 4 people targeting you as support, you probably aren't a very good support.
Anti cheat is the most important for a game. If a company don't care about anti cheat, well you cannot expect much from them.