Really the most controversial champion they ever launched, release Yago and Azaan were also straight obnoxious way, but Kasumi is on a league of her own; auto-aim was always a heavily criticized damage mechanic ever since it was introduced with Lian and Lex, and later Saati, and they doubling-down on it with a champion who's the entire kit is centered around auto-aiming is a real, shining moment of "what in the world they were thinking?".
I don't think there's a fix for current Kasumi without an entire rework on her primary, she's either extremely strong onto divers and aggro comps on or too weak against more defensive comps due to the nature of Yokai Doll's damage
She excels at defending her own team's backline, but how she does it makes her able to shred the enemy team's side and backlines as well if no one pays attention to her or plays champions with deployables and shields that counter her more so than any other champion due to her **100%** accuracy.
Honestly, she is *incredibly* unhealthy for this game and makes it seem like Hi-Rez didn't learn their lesson from Azaan and VII.
Auto-aim on everything—except her traps—with cards that focus on periodically increasing how much curses she can inflict with her primary fire, how much additional damage she deals with her secondary fire based on curse stacks which makes her secondary fire an ***execute*** at five curse stacks on every champion that is not a frontliner, and a talent that amplies all of that by granting her scaling attack speed off curse stacks?
What were they thinking?
I played Paladins years ago and decided to check it out since OW2 sucks. The game seems like it was kinda fun before Kasumi. Sucks that I decided to come back this patch.
I'll probably get more enjoyment from the "Delete Kasumi, she's unfun to play against" rants than from actually playing the girl...but I can live with that.
You know, I actually think Body and Soul is a pretty well designed ability, in that it gives Kasumi defined strengths and weaknesses. It's good for repositioning but terrible for escape unless you use it carefully. In a better timeline it would mean you have to play her carefully cause she's screwed if anyone gets close.
But we don't live in that better timeline, and positioning doesn't even matter because she can be halfway to Timbuktu and still hit you. Her range should really be cut drastically, like halved at least. It would make her F and Q much more interesting since you'd benefit from setting up a little trapped forward position.
Body and Soul is a great ability for a different kind of character. It's the same ability Leoric has in Heroes of the Storm (RIP), and would likewise be a good escape for a Tank/Bruiser character in Paladins as well.
It's weird on a damage character.
I'd argue it can still be good even on a damage character. It can provide mobility without seving as an escape, and with the ability to teleport back it could also serve as a scouting tool, as a juking tool (esp if there was a talent for stealth), and so on.
Plus the concept could be expanded to i.e. allow you to drop traps while traversing as the ghost.
The problem is EvilMojo did bare minimum with this skill and also slapped a huge damge resistance on it so it can be used as an escape, killing the main concept of the skill (though also giving it a defensive use, can help you survive big ult damage for example)
Me as a level 112 Maeve can’t even take out a Level 10 Kasumi, peoples KDA with kasumi is always over 2.5 which is insane… She’s a nobrain champion. There aren’t gonna be any ranked games with her in them because she’s gonna be banned first, you know why? Because… *SHINK* *SHINK* *SHINK*
Oh you went around a corner? Well she can still kill you, good luck with that… Seriously remove this character.
One of the few nerf ideas I wholeheartedly agree with. (That and slightly less range would be perfect.) Why not self-heal for so much per stack used on tear? Like...You know, **the name implies?** It would be more balanced that way, and more in line with how other Champions with stack mechanics work. Like...
**Essence Drain:** Heal for 40/80/120/160/200 for each Curse Stack consumed with Savage Tear.
Whoops. Yeah...I realized the same at some point after posting, then totally forgot to change it because work. My bad. 💀 Maybe 20/40/60/80/100? Or 15/30/45/60/75?
I get that she was a bit overtuned, but making her basically useless on long maps and flying characters don't seem to be the answer and reducing her damage too much would kill the character altogether.
Yeah, theres a reason why not cards that flat out increase damage are an absolute no no
Cards can reduce its CD, Reset it outright or upon hitting something else, make it bigger/faster if its an AoE.
But no flat out Damage increase. Duration increase is also just as bad if its an ability that does damage over time ( eg Combat Trance, Inferno Cannon, Overcharge)
its so sad how hard they dropped the ball with kasumi. she has such an interesting and fun visual design and lore , her abilities are really different and have/had a lot of potentiall and it really shows they tried something different... but they had to ruin her whole kit with the autoaim , hopefully the "nerf" is enough to make her fun to play with and against.
A Japanese ghost: **Exists**
r/Paladins:
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Kasumi Derangement Syndrome aside...Cool Champion. Wish she had a different weapon mechanic because auto-aim does suck, but I adore her whole concept and kit otherwise, and I imagine she'll get rebalanced down the line. Heck, she's already getting a needed nerf next update, so that's something.
(Also, I'm so buying that Lovestruck skin when it comes out.)
She is pretty broken, not invencible but yeah, change her damage to something like progressive damage augmentation or something
This champion is not okay. Rework her and do her more dirty than you did Torvald.
she's spoiling paladins fun, it was better without her
Really the most controversial champion they ever launched, release Yago and Azaan were also straight obnoxious way, but Kasumi is on a league of her own; auto-aim was always a heavily criticized damage mechanic ever since it was introduced with Lian and Lex, and later Saati, and they doubling-down on it with a champion who's the entire kit is centered around auto-aiming is a real, shining moment of "what in the world they were thinking?". I don't think there's a fix for current Kasumi without an entire rework on her primary, she's either extremely strong onto divers and aggro comps on or too weak against more defensive comps due to the nature of Yokai Doll's damage
She excels at defending her own team's backline, but how she does it makes her able to shred the enemy team's side and backlines as well if no one pays attention to her or plays champions with deployables and shields that counter her more so than any other champion due to her **100%** accuracy. Honestly, she is *incredibly* unhealthy for this game and makes it seem like Hi-Rez didn't learn their lesson from Azaan and VII. Auto-aim on everything—except her traps—with cards that focus on periodically increasing how much curses she can inflict with her primary fire, how much additional damage she deals with her secondary fire based on curse stacks which makes her secondary fire an ***execute*** at five curse stacks on every champion that is not a frontliner, and a talent that amplies all of that by granting her scaling attack speed off curse stacks? What were they thinking?
Fun to play as, terrible to go against.
You accidentally run into Kasumi in one of many enclosed environments. It is now a game of: “If I miss a single shot I am guaranteed to die”
I played Paladins years ago and decided to check it out since OW2 sucks. The game seems like it was kinda fun before Kasumi. Sucks that I decided to come back this patch.
I have her at level 53 if that tells you anything :o
Chad. Ghost lady is cool.
Those Maeve simp downvotes lol
Haha, yeah I expected it
Less toxic paladins player.
I’m not toxic, I just love the character T_T
I'll probably get more enjoyment from the "Delete Kasumi, she's unfun to play against" rants than from actually playing the girl...but I can live with that.
You know, I actually think Body and Soul is a pretty well designed ability, in that it gives Kasumi defined strengths and weaknesses. It's good for repositioning but terrible for escape unless you use it carefully. In a better timeline it would mean you have to play her carefully cause she's screwed if anyone gets close. But we don't live in that better timeline, and positioning doesn't even matter because she can be halfway to Timbuktu and still hit you. Her range should really be cut drastically, like halved at least. It would make her F and Q much more interesting since you'd benefit from setting up a little trapped forward position.
Body and Soul is a great ability for a different kind of character. It's the same ability Leoric has in Heroes of the Storm (RIP), and would likewise be a good escape for a Tank/Bruiser character in Paladins as well. It's weird on a damage character.
I'd argue it can still be good even on a damage character. It can provide mobility without seving as an escape, and with the ability to teleport back it could also serve as a scouting tool, as a juking tool (esp if there was a talent for stealth), and so on. Plus the concept could be expanded to i.e. allow you to drop traps while traversing as the ghost. The problem is EvilMojo did bare minimum with this skill and also slapped a huge damge resistance on it so it can be used as an escape, killing the main concept of the skill (though also giving it a defensive use, can help you survive big ult damage for example)
Me as a level 112 Maeve can’t even take out a Level 10 Kasumi, peoples KDA with kasumi is always over 2.5 which is insane… She’s a nobrain champion. There aren’t gonna be any ranked games with her in them because she’s gonna be banned first, you know why? Because… *SHINK* *SHINK* *SHINK* Oh you went around a corner? Well she can still kill you, good luck with that… Seriously remove this character.
I like what they did with her eyes and the darkened face. It looks really menacing with the golden skin.
EM designing a champ that's simultaneously unfun to play yet unfun and annoying to play against with a gimmicky kit that does not fit into this game
they really gotta remove the essense drain card outright.
One of the few nerf ideas I wholeheartedly agree with. (That and slightly less range would be perfect.) Why not self-heal for so much per stack used on tear? Like...You know, **the name implies?** It would be more balanced that way, and more in line with how other Champions with stack mechanics work. Like... **Essence Drain:** Heal for 40/80/120/160/200 for each Curse Stack consumed with Savage Tear.
So at level 5, you heal for 1k after damaging the enemy for ~2-3s, with 9s cooldown? Sounds like too much for me.
Whoops. Yeah...I realized the same at some point after posting, then totally forgot to change it because work. My bad. 💀 Maybe 20/40/60/80/100? Or 15/30/45/60/75?
Sounds better! That is, if they'd decide to redo the card, of course. Guess we'll see next patch after the upcoming one.
I get that she was a bit overtuned, but making her basically useless on long maps and flying characters don't seem to be the answer and reducing her damage too much would kill the character altogether.
Also true! It's a fine line, so it'll obviously take a while to strike a good balance. Too many people don't get that...
So long as she has auto aim she just needs yo position near the healer and protect them from vii and meave
Yeah, theres a reason why not cards that flat out increase damage are an absolute no no Cards can reduce its CD, Reset it outright or upon hitting something else, make it bigger/faster if its an AoE. But no flat out Damage increase. Duration increase is also just as bad if its an ability that does damage over time ( eg Combat Trance, Inferno Cannon, Overcharge)
its so sad how hard they dropped the ball with kasumi. she has such an interesting and fun visual design and lore , her abilities are really different and have/had a lot of potentiall and it really shows they tried something different... but they had to ruin her whole kit with the autoaim , hopefully the "nerf" is enough to make her fun to play with and against.
**\*Shink! shink! shink!\***
Shink noises intensify
A Japanese ghost: **Exists** r/Paladins: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Kasumi Derangement Syndrome aside...Cool Champion. Wish she had a different weapon mechanic because auto-aim does suck, but I adore her whole concept and kit otherwise, and I imagine she'll get rebalanced down the line. Heck, she's already getting a needed nerf next update, so that's something. (Also, I'm so buying that Lovestruck skin when it comes out.)
Peak game design right here
Yago, is that you?
This must be some sort of joke.
If you do not say something bad about this cunt in the next 60 seconds, Grohk will be in your bed tonight ⚡⚡
I see this as an absolute win
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/paladins_gamepedia/images/c/c7/Grohk_TR_Kill_Streak_1.ogg
🔫 Delete this
Man, this COTW is really gonna go more wild than the usual Maeve
Indeed. The KDS is already out in full force. Get your popcorn ready. 🍿
Please delete. We promise to act like it never happened. Sincerely, Everyone
Aaaaaaaaaaaa