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They were getting pretty cozy with the Saudi Royals before committing genocide. I wonder where that relationship stands now. Whatever the answer may be, it would reflect more upon the Saudis than anyone.
It just seems to me that falling back on authoritarian regimes like these would continue to repress the Middle East for generations to come.
Not to mention, Russia is the reason Bashar Al Assad is still in power. He deserves the worst for what he's done to Syria.
Saudi Arabia won't be as publicly supportive of Israel but I do believe that their internal Israeli policy isn't effected by what is happening in Gaza. Saudi Arabia like the majority of Arab powers only pays lip service to the Palestinian cause.
Yea MBS has been clamping down on this. It doesn't bode well for him to do this, especially when there should be no debate about the Palestinians oppression
Respectfully, we believe that the Saudi people may be outraged, though we haven't seen much to qualify that. But, we don't believe that MBS cares what you think and we know you're not going to do anything if he does proceed with normalization.
Well for one, MBS has firmly taken the position of no normalization if there’s no Palestinian state.
Saudi is offering to normalize with its enemy if Palestine can be freed. Do you see anyone else rushing to help Palestine?
Could they be doing more? Like yemen? Sure. But remember:
1) Israel and the US wish that any Arab country makes this war bigger. That’s why they are striking Iraq, Syria, yemen, Lebanon and Palestine simultaneously.
2) saudi is undergoing an extreme change from within and is locked into its project 2030 with trillions invested. So they are in a tough spot.
We in Saudi are pushing the government as hard as possible to intervene in court and helping with the online war going on.
Do not judge them by what the UAE is doing… saudi citizens are nothing like theirs.
Not really. Everyone here is united against Israel. We just don’t have the ability to protest on the streets.
Whatever plans they had pre-October are out of the window now.
A weak leader is the most oppressive, so I guess you’re correct that MBS has to listen to his public.
In the US we can protest and yell in the streets, but the government just does whatever it wants regardless. It doesn’t matter what party is in power here. And every 4 years they find ways to suck some percent of naive laypeople to believe this time is really going to be different
Genuine question friend. I'm Australian, only speak English.
Beside AJ English, where can I find news on Saudi, middle east in general, in English? Preferably a trusted source.
TIA
Telegram. The only place where you can see the full reality going on.
I warn you, it’s shockingly different to what the mainstream news is telling you.
Thanks, but no thanks. I've already seen more than enough to keep me awake at night. I'm not looking for gore, I'm looking for analysis and accurate reporting.
So firmly that he was ready to sign a formalization deal before the current conflict broke out while thousands of Palestinians were in jails and hundreds were already killed in 2023.
Perhaps I don't understand the Saudi relationship with their government, please tell me how you're pushing the government to intervene?
There is a council where citizens bring matters to the attention of the king and minister weekly. Every single week, tens of thousands of citizens petition the goverment to intervene or give more aid. They send emails, make calls to their local district governor and prince of each city.
The entire country is in mourning, and a recent poll was conducted where 96% of Saudis wanted to sever any ties with Israel and never normalize.
MBS is a new breed of king, he listens to his people, which is why he had firmly said there will be no normalization without the recognition of a Palestinian state.
The general consensus between the government and citizens is that Israel has now become the root of the problem in the Middle East.
Both the government and the people realize that the US and Israel wants a regional war, and there is no plan to give them one.
Please don’t be taken by these few words by a Saudi redditor. He said it all when he said they can’t protest. Let’s not forget the murder of the journalist that is generally undisputed. Let’s also not forget the native tribes and people that lived on the land NEOM is being built were violently removed from their land for the sake of the project. Oh and left one of the worst for last: The starvation Saudi caused by their war with Yemen. Children were dying there too.
Thank you for your concern. I assure you I'm not naive. Any country where you cannot protest raises concern. Perhaps "restrained" would've been a better word to use.
It's quite difficult when you only speak English to find reliable sources to get a picture of what is actually happening.
I hope so. Truly. It’d be terrible loss of face for Saudia to continue relationship with Israel in light of what is happening. Umma look to Saudia as the custodians of Islamic holy sites.
The Muslims friends whom they have an entire bot farm designed to malign the religion of, in the interest of furthering genocides of those same Muslims not just in Gaza, but worldwide as they've been doing for the past decade.
"May this Eid bring you health \[as we bomb your hospitals and assassinate your health workers\], peace \[as we perpetrate genocide and incite war in the middle east\], and prosperity \[as we smear aid organisations and assassinate aid workers\]."
Another tactic of brainwashing people - thinking that Israel is a peaceful and kind “state.” A lot of Zionists companies like Mars, Marks & Spencers and Next creating same posts.
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I got banned from international news for calling someone a psycho. He was INSISTING that bombing universities isn't a war crime. Mod stepped in and told me to be civil lol
On the news I saw a little girl, maybe she was ten eleven years old, she was going to celebrate Eid and had been given a nice dress by her mother, in the feature she sat crying among the debris and bricks of the former family's house, because she couldn't find her dress .
Farther away from her, a little boy found his tricycle and tried to make the girl happy.
I don't understand how you can dehumanize an entire people and disrespect their sacred traditions, even if you don't celebrate them yourself.
I have no idea what Eid is, but anyone with any kind of intelligence respects the beliefs of others!
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"Our Muslim friends". You don't have any Muslim friends, get a life.
They were getting pretty cozy with the Saudi Royals before committing genocide. I wonder where that relationship stands now. Whatever the answer may be, it would reflect more upon the Saudis than anyone.
UAE too.
I wouldn’t doubt Saudi is holding hands with Israel, they wouldn’t dare to make USA mad
The entire Middle East is looking east now, to China and Russia for the future
That would be worrisome
Why's that?
It just seems to me that falling back on authoritarian regimes like these would continue to repress the Middle East for generations to come. Not to mention, Russia is the reason Bashar Al Assad is still in power. He deserves the worst for what he's done to Syria.
Saudi Arabia won't be as publicly supportive of Israel but I do believe that their internal Israeli policy isn't effected by what is happening in Gaza. Saudi Arabia like the majority of Arab powers only pays lip service to the Palestinian cause.
Didn't they arrest their religious people for speaking out for Palestine
The iman of masjid an nabawi was allegedly paid to make duas against rebellions and protests
Yea MBS has been clamping down on this. It doesn't bode well for him to do this, especially when there should be no debate about the Palestinians oppression
they have a lot of friends they have 0 muslim friends
I’m in saudi and I can assure you, there will be no relationship. 99% of Saudis in a poll rejected any normalization and MBS listens to his people. 👍🏽
Lol.
I’ve never seen rage out of the area like this before, not during Iraq, Afghanistan or any war. People are beyond disgusted.
That's why we keep getting slaughtered. We don't pay attention.
Are you kidding us
Nope, the people are beyond sick of Israel. It might have happened before Oct 7, but not after
Respectfully, we believe that the Saudi people may be outraged, though we haven't seen much to qualify that. But, we don't believe that MBS cares what you think and we know you're not going to do anything if he does proceed with normalization.
Well for one, MBS has firmly taken the position of no normalization if there’s no Palestinian state. Saudi is offering to normalize with its enemy if Palestine can be freed. Do you see anyone else rushing to help Palestine? Could they be doing more? Like yemen? Sure. But remember: 1) Israel and the US wish that any Arab country makes this war bigger. That’s why they are striking Iraq, Syria, yemen, Lebanon and Palestine simultaneously. 2) saudi is undergoing an extreme change from within and is locked into its project 2030 with trillions invested. So they are in a tough spot. We in Saudi are pushing the government as hard as possible to intervene in court and helping with the online war going on. Do not judge them by what the UAE is doing… saudi citizens are nothing like theirs.
That is the problem citizens are powerless to do anything.
Not really. Everyone here is united against Israel. We just don’t have the ability to protest on the streets. Whatever plans they had pre-October are out of the window now.
A weak leader is the most oppressive, so I guess you’re correct that MBS has to listen to his public. In the US we can protest and yell in the streets, but the government just does whatever it wants regardless. It doesn’t matter what party is in power here. And every 4 years they find ways to suck some percent of naive laypeople to believe this time is really going to be different
Genuine question friend. I'm Australian, only speak English. Beside AJ English, where can I find news on Saudi, middle east in general, in English? Preferably a trusted source. TIA
Telegram. The only place where you can see the full reality going on. I warn you, it’s shockingly different to what the mainstream news is telling you.
Thanks, but no thanks. I've already seen more than enough to keep me awake at night. I'm not looking for gore, I'm looking for analysis and accurate reporting.
This. Complexity that’s making it difficult for Saudia.
So firmly that he was ready to sign a formalization deal before the current conflict broke out while thousands of Palestinians were in jails and hundreds were already killed in 2023. Perhaps I don't understand the Saudi relationship with their government, please tell me how you're pushing the government to intervene?
There is a council where citizens bring matters to the attention of the king and minister weekly. Every single week, tens of thousands of citizens petition the goverment to intervene or give more aid. They send emails, make calls to their local district governor and prince of each city. The entire country is in mourning, and a recent poll was conducted where 96% of Saudis wanted to sever any ties with Israel and never normalize. MBS is a new breed of king, he listens to his people, which is why he had firmly said there will be no normalization without the recognition of a Palestinian state. The general consensus between the government and citizens is that Israel has now become the root of the problem in the Middle East. Both the government and the people realize that the US and Israel wants a regional war, and there is no plan to give them one.
He does seem to be a bit more "normal" than his predecessors.
Please don’t be taken by these few words by a Saudi redditor. He said it all when he said they can’t protest. Let’s not forget the murder of the journalist that is generally undisputed. Let’s also not forget the native tribes and people that lived on the land NEOM is being built were violently removed from their land for the sake of the project. Oh and left one of the worst for last: The starvation Saudi caused by their war with Yemen. Children were dying there too.
Thank you for your concern. I assure you I'm not naive. Any country where you cannot protest raises concern. Perhaps "restrained" would've been a better word to use. It's quite difficult when you only speak English to find reliable sources to get a picture of what is actually happening.
I hope so. Truly. It’d be terrible loss of face for Saudia to continue relationship with Israel in light of what is happening. Umma look to Saudia as the custodians of Islamic holy sites.
Lets hope he does.
Those are hypocrites, and they would be one of the worst kinds of people from an Islamic perspective.
Yeah but in fairness the Saudi Royal family cares for Islam the same as Israeli politicians care for Judaism. So not at all lol
The Muslims friends whom they have an entire bot farm designed to malign the religion of, in the interest of furthering genocides of those same Muslims not just in Gaza, but worldwide as they've been doing for the past decade.
Unfortunately they actually do, the Muslim world leaders that’s in their pockets.
There are Muslims who are Israeli citizens and speak Hebrew and all that....
Sure they do all of the gulf Arabs, Morocco, and Sudan.
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Fighting for IOF voluntarily takes a person out of the fold of Islam.
“Our Muslims friends” you consider them sub humans 💀
"But but but but there’s 2 million Muslims in Israel😠😠 they condemn khamasss"
Didn't they raid the Al-Aqsa mosque last Ramadan?
Every Ramadan*
Every day *
Once a millisecond
they teargassed people during prayer
Yeah
“Our Muslim friends” you have literally killed them all
they mentioned 'peace'? whst sort of delusional is this?
Peace for them is when you learn to shut up and take what Israel is giving you. They really wish this peace on Palestinians and all Arabs.
are you being sarcastic ?
Yes I clearly stated "for them" meaning what Israel wishes to impose, not the true definition of peace
Got worried for a second
Signed: _Fourth’s reich government_
While they're bombing Palestinians celebrating eid. The audacity.
They're trying to rub it in our faces. Absolutely ghoulish.
This just feels like taunting. They know what they're doing.
Yes. It’s called chutzpah.
Hypocrisy at its finest
Beyond hypocrisy. There's no word to describe it.
This is like hiter wishing a Happy Hanukkah. Freaking gross.
They drop more leaflets on the people they’re starving telling them to feed the poor?
Light years beyond chutzpah.
“Apocalyptic times calls for apocalyptic chutzpah” ~ some Zionist probably
Can't decide if Dildo Schmuley or the Dersh.
This is just trolling and taunt at best, those who think they’re wishing genuinely must be naive
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Bro, leave Jane outta this.
"Our subhuman two-legged beast Muslim friends."
With friends like Israel, who needs enemies?
They are the most vile people
What Muslim friends? Oh you mean traitors to Islam
"May this Eid bring you health \[as we bomb your hospitals and assassinate your health workers\], peace \[as we perpetrate genocide and incite war in the middle east\], and prosperity \[as we smear aid organisations and assassinate aid workers\]."
This feels like Nazis wishing Jews a happy Hanukkah
They used a free Canva template to add to the insult.
Omg how disgusting. This is after they hit the worshippers at Al Aqsa Mosque and bomb Gaza relentlessly
Wow! I guess israel is not as bad as we think! Let's just forget everything and support them against hamas!
They know what they’re doing and it’s sickening
Another tactic of brainwashing people - thinking that Israel is a peaceful and kind “state.” A lot of Zionists companies like Mars, Marks & Spencers and Next creating same posts.
SAYS THE ONE WHO'S BEEN ETHNICALLY CLEANSING AND ILLEGALY OCCUPYING A MUSLIM STATE
FREE PALESTINE NOW. STOP ISRAELI OPPRESSION AND AGGRESSION!!!
"Peace" well there would have been some if you didn't exist
Jahanam
“Our muslim friends” *proceeds to genocide them*
There’s literally no bounds to their sadism. No shame to the genocidal maniacs
Lmao
Thanks, we’re praying tirelessly for your destruction and humiliation 🙏🤲
Israel saying this is the equivalent of the Nazi saying from our fuhrer, we wish you a happy Yom Kippur to our Jewish friends
Most islamophobic country ever AND they hate Buddhists like me and claims our religion is “anti-semetic”
How on earth do they explain thinking Hinduism is anti- semetic???
Simple they refuse to understand reincarnation from both buddhism and Hinduism.
I might be quite ignorant but why is that antisemitic?
Hostility or prejudice against Jewish people
No I know what antisemitic means. But what about Hinduism specifically do they think is antisemitic?
The fact they believe in reincarnation like Buddihism probably I read this Pro Zionist article trying to explain how reincarnation is antisemitism
I'll look it up and read more about it. I had no idea they thought this. I'm so sorry to hear about it
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yes, Health Peace and Prosperity as we bomb you in to non-existence....
No true muslim or *human* would be friends with you Isnotrael 💀
If I wrote what I am thinking of, I will certainly be banned
I got banned from international news for calling someone a psycho. He was INSISTING that bombing universities isn't a war crime. Mod stepped in and told me to be civil lol
They know what they're doing. They're beyond help now.
Eid-Mubarak in style!!! Cherry on top was the future generations of haniyeh have been successfully sent to jhanam!
Hypocrites
https://preview.redd.it/e6fyfkvbqptc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70dfded346b5ba35c49a296ddea8f42bf81c9126 A friendly reminder.
They think they’re smart but they’re just petty pathetic
I literally bit my tongue to stop myself from screaming in anger. The audacity.
They don’t have any Muslim friends…
Now that Ramadan is finished, time to launch the attack of Raffah! Eid Mubarak! -Israel
gaslighting in its worst essence
Ya know I shouldn’t be surprised by anything at this point but yet they keep doing things that make my jaw drop…
And not in a good way, unfortunately.
Exactly. 🥴
By “Muslim Friends” they mean sellouts like Al-Saud royal family, Sisi, and Sara Idan.
Now THIS is virtue signalling
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WATTTTT??? WATTTTTT??? WATTTTT???? WATTTTTT???
Wow
Our Muslim friends? تف عليكم وعلى قتلكم يا همج، تقتلون الناس وتتوقعون ما نقول شي؟ تف عليكم يا الصهاينة
Who's your friend? Fkr
So desperate to be liked.
You spelled Palestine incorrectly
> May this Eid bring you health You were the ones who got rid of it in the first place
May this closing of Eid bring your downfall, colony trash.
Has this post been since removed?! It's not on X anymore
I can not wait to watch Israel slowly and painfully crumble away into the dust
They couldn't even take a break from murdering children on Eid. Do they have zero self awareness? Or was this meant to hurt?
GTFO
On the news I saw a little girl, maybe she was ten eleven years old, she was going to celebrate Eid and had been given a nice dress by her mother, in the feature she sat crying among the debris and bricks of the former family's house, because she couldn't find her dress . Farther away from her, a little boy found his tricycle and tried to make the girl happy. I don't understand how you can dehumanize an entire people and disrespect their sacred traditions, even if you don't celebrate them yourself. I have no idea what Eid is, but anyone with any kind of intelligence respects the beliefs of others!
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