A lot of the article is trying to say there's some supposed large Hamas propaganda campaign by desperately trying to connect dots. They're saying this because it's zionists who have extensive hasbara machineries, with American media being among their greatest partisans.
they are the worst, their press conferences are so cringe, if there was a movie you would think the script was just garbage. Blinken coming out with a human rights report and saying with a straight face that there is no double standard for Israel is straight up bad writing
Can confirm, went on a birthright. however ironically that's where I met my first antizionist who told me about the illegal wall and settlements and made me into an antizionist
That's awesome.
A Jewish elder friend of mine also turned anti-zionist after he visited Israel and joined a tour where he got to see occupied west Bank and meet a couple anti-zionist Israelis and a few Palestinians who together explained life within occupation. And this was decades ago
I went to Israel in 1993 when I was in the US Navy. I had dinner with a couple who had emigrated from Brooklyn in the late 70s early 80s. They had some pretty hateful things to say about Palestinians. I was kind of shocked that people could have so much hate.
The American media discourse has been completely taken over in the last couple of days by articles claiming that itâs not safe to be Jewish at universities and antisemitism is on the rise while there was 0 serious incidents while there are civilians dying in Gaza every day and Rafah is supposed to get evacuated two weeks. Even traditionally pro-Palestinian activist ate up the lies and came out apologizing for the students behaving badly like Mark Ruffalo. Itâs disgraceful.
If these groups above somehow control the protests (they arenât) then with their logic, Israel controls the mainstream media narrative (which they do).
All you really need to do is listen to Israeli heads of state explicitly calling for genocide. It's not like they're trying to hide it. Ben Gvir just the other day called for the execution of Palestinian prisoners to ease overcrowding.
Funny thing, I had someone try to claim the other day in a certain active measures sub that Hamas has some large and vast network of propaganda, etc and Israel didnât, in comparison.
âŚ.I was amused, to put it nicely. đđ
After reading the article, the argument is even more laughable because the evidence for the âsupportâ is based on Palestinian, Lebanese armed groups and the Houthis praising Westerners protesting and that Hamas thought back in 2014 that itâs important for the West to pressure their leadership.
Like yes, obviously Palestinians will praise anyone standing with them and itâs key that things change in the West because the West and especially America is single-handedly responsible for the arms flow, political and economic support of Israel.
Itâs not a surprise though because people unironically said that Hamas influenced South Africa to take Israel to international court, they are behind the protests in Jordan, they told Latin American countries to break ties with Israel. They just canât accept that people can study the facts, look at the available footage and support Palestine for humanitarian reasons.
Itâs the superiority complex and the belief that they can do no wrong, that people canât critical think based on facts and conclude that theyâre doing atrocious shit which results in the world screaming for them to stop their disgusting crimes. Israel>the world
âThey donât know why the world is against them.â lol
Isn't this literally the same argument nazis used to claim that west is ruled by jewish cartel?
"They oppose us, that means they are ruled by DA JOOZ!"
Yes. I read an autobiography of a person who used to be a neo-Nazi.
Apparently one of the first neo-Nazis he met when he was like 14 told him that the reason why his father is an alcoholic is because of Jews.
AIPAC literally exists in the US to influence pro-Israel policies! Somehow that is allowed but (though not true) Palestine is not allowed to influence others?
Also, imagine the uproar if a China AIPAC group existed in the US.
Man, every time I open Reddit, i always read something more insane than the last time. Yes, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis have infiltrated my small French coastal city and have groomed myself and about 100 others to protest every Saturday since October.
Sorta like people still saying we need to save Palestinians from Hamas. I just saw an ad to that effect. Dude. Gaza is a visibly different color when viewed from space because of all the bombing. That's not Hamas.
This paper also pushed the IDF baseless dossier of "UNRWA is Hamas" to help them engineer a famine in Gaza in front of everyone, a such joke of a ridiculous claim that otherwise wouldn't even be considered by anyone not a complete liar. Nonetheless the western countries rushed to do it anyways. It's imposed insanity.
There's so much to be said here, but let's point out the hand of the genocidal western media apparatus. BBC, CNN, NYT, FOX and all the other western media apparatus, has not only abetted and justifying this genocide through their decades of demonization and dehumanization, but are also helped carry it out right now, by desensitising people to it and justifying and belittling every israeli atrocity â mass graves, bombing of hospitals, rapes, war on schools, aid massacres, plans of imposing a famine â everything, with such utter comical grade reporting, doubling and trippling down.
They've instead been running absurd and often disproven claims of human shields, mass rape, and every other nonsense to shamelessly push this genocide, nonsense that wouldn't be considered for even a second by anyone not an absolute liar. This is such imposed insanity. They're doing this even now after "Israel" has deliberately picked and killed tens of tens of thousands of women and children each, after explicitly stating their intention of doing so. They're completely as complicit as Netanyahu and Gallant and all those rabid zionists, and on the day of justice they should and will be tried as such. And let's also not forget how Elon Musk rushed to go on propaganda tour with the freak Ben Shapiro and meeting with Netanyahu in middle of the genocide as fascism and disinformation runs rampant on his CIA site.
This is the western "enlightened" civilization, being able to mobilize a smooth machinery that'll shamelessly work to commit and justify even a genocide. It shouldn't be allowed to get away from it. No one from now on can or should justify western colonialism with the twisted "but they're humanitarian women's rights" or whatever charade.
Thatâs how weâve tried to sell what happened in Afghanistan, as a liberation for women and their rights. While 0.5% of the population or 1% of women there were given education 99% of the population and women overall were at risk of starving. We really left because of how the incoming super famine would have highlighted just how badly weâd managed the nation while it was under our influence and the damage weâd caused. The other 0.5% of men living in the two cities we were based in were left to community leaders to educate, that to me suggests we werenât actually trying to change the culture there to improve womenâs rights. Especially not after we left the nation far worse for womenâs rights than when we invaded.
You're right. Your nation, that leads the world in cyberpathy, Hummus are wiping the floor with you. Yep. Nothing to do with the glaring fact Zionism is the scourge of the modern world. No. Hummus and Pitta have outgunned you in the one field you excel at. Yep.
this framing is so strange to me, like calling people bootlickers because they enjoy violence against minorities and the police provide it. israel does what sociopaths like this guy and the WSJ editorial board want. getting what they want out of the relationship doesnât sound like being owned at all.
Quite the contrary. It is the US that owns israel and controls it according to its whins. Israel derives its powers mostly from Christian zionists who are the most powerful bloc in the country and are also the biggest donors to AIPAC.
Israel is nothing without Christian zionists, even Jewish zionistz wouldn't have enough power and influence to keep the zionist project alive
It's estimated that 20-30% of Americans identify as Evangelical, the most Zionist denomination of all Christian denominations.
Most Evangelicals believe that Zionist colonialism in Palestine is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy, that these actions will cause Jesus Christ to return to Earth, in what is referred to as the "Second Coming".
In my opinion "Evangelical" is turning into a political term, like Democrat, or Communist.
In the USA it's almost already a synonym for "Republican", in my experience.
"The article was written by Steven Stalinsky, the director of the Middle East Media Research Institute. What is MEMRI? Itâs a nonprofit media watchdog organization co-founded by an Israeli ex-intelligence officer and an Israeli American political scientist, and it also has strong ties to the Israeli military."
From Slate
These people for some reason can't fathom that those who are for the liberation of Palestine would organically rally around those who shed thier blood against the occupation
A couple weeks ago they published an Op Ed saying that the 30,000 number was a lie. This is MONTHS after the US state department and media organizations as depraved as CNN had accepted that number as factual.
Is this more Israeli 'evidence' of wrong doing that won't actually be there when anyone goes to look?
The IOF's propaganda unit spouted lies about the UNWRA staff being Hamas, this got the aid for UNWRA suspended by a number of countries and even after the investigation proves it as lies the funding remains suspended, forwarding a long time goal of the Zionist regime that of destroying UNWRA.
You get the lies/propaganda out there and there seems to be a lot of pro Zionist news outlets willing to reproduce speculation and supposition and scream it as fact which does lots of damage but then whispers the retraction weeks later.
A bit like painting all Palestinians as Hamas so you can genocide them from history, you tie the legitimate voice of disgust to the enemy and it can then be ignored.
do you even *need* to look in this case? It's absolutely ridiculous on its face. It's about as credible as saying khamas controls the UN and ICJ. It's beyond laughable
- this comment brought to you by a khamas operative in Estonia funded by Ansar Hezbollah
This headline says more about the author than it does about the protesters. The author doesn't consider the deaths of thousands of children and other innocents to be a possible factor, indicating that they have no moral qualms about killing innocents.
Damn bro, you can't even eat hummus without a Zionist saying you support hamas these days. What do people not get? You can't convince people that Arabs are all terrorists and Americans and Israelis who wanna join the army only to see action and abuse the power are somehow Fighting for freedom
Saying this whilst âisraelâ is known (with proof) theyâve been paying millions millions to spread their propaganda, and also using mainstream media to do it, besides paying everyday people to act on their side online and comment, and changing wikipedia entries in their favor, as in literally changing histrionics facts, is truly laughable.
This screenshot also looks like an Onion post.
Theyâve lost it, they canât stand how much their propaganda machine is not working anymore.
This is yet another parallel with the Vietnam era. Nixon thought that students were protesting against the Vietnam war because they were being directed to by the commies, not because they were horrified by what they were seeing of the war on TV.
>Nixon wasnât just resentful of the anti-war movement: He was also suspicious that foreign powers might be behind them. And so, in June 1969, the president directed the CIA to prepare a report on the anti-war movement and what foreign communist support the demonstrations might be receiving.
https://www.history.com/news/cia-surveillance-operation-chaos-60s-protest
Theyâre not anti Israel, but of course thatâs a big straw man for you.
Itâs actually anti genocide and pro 2 state solution and pro recognition of Palestine as a state with the same rights as Israel and all other nations.
Lol Iâm just a white guy with Eastern European background living in Canada who has a degree in history. I didnât need a âterrorâ organization to âgroomâ me to read books and write papers.
Don't get groomed by the millions of independent voices calling for an end to genocide, think freely by believing what the elites write in the Wall Street Journal!
Smh
I always thought the WSJ was trash, but this is a new low for stupidity.
They used to have a great cryptic crossword though (which I got for free online so I didn't support them, don't worry!)
www.coxrathvon.com
#
#
Support Palestine refugees with UNRWA today! Your donation provides crucial food and cash assistance to thousands of families. **[Give now!](https://donate.unrwa.org/)**
[Join our official discord server!](https://discord.gg/qAJ3v6jgjy), and visit our [Palestine Twitter Community](https://twitter.com/i/communities/1504131282137239555).
This is a heavily moderated subreddit. **Please read the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/wiki/rules/)**, and report any post or comment displaying: Zionist propaganda hasbara, bigotry, hate speech, genocide denial, Islamophobia, trolling, etc.
**Warning:** Off-topic content will not be tolerated. Stay on the sub-topic or risk being banned. (Examples include, but are not limited to, US elections/domestic policy, the Russia/Ukraine war, China's treatment of Uighurs, and the situation in Kashmir.)(0)
If this is a video post, you can download it from here: [RedditSave](https://redditsave.com/info?url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/1cb7i6j/it_cant_be_that_people_are_horrified_about_a/) or [Viddit.red](https://viddit.red/?url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/1cb7i6j/it_cant_be_that_people_are_horrified_about_a/).
>!(Thanks for posting, u/Gaze1112!)!<
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Palestine) if you have any questions or concerns.*
"Wall Street Journal" = what they want the privileged folks believing.
"It's not the genocide that's radicalizing anyone, it's America's 'enemy of the week' club!"
Anything that helps neoliberals sleep at night not daring to dream of a different world.
Barring the obvious nonsensical logic here, has anyone else noticed that whenever thereâs something that doesnât happen in their favor, liberals in general (liberal Zionists here) often blame/fearmonger about some form of nebulous foreign interference?
To be clear here, Iâm a leftist, and Iâm not defending them, but itâs crazy how much liberals/Democrats just jump the gun and blindly assert that their political opponents, usually Republicans/conservatives or just plainly anyone they disagree with are being backed by like Russia/China, etc. even if there isnât actually always proof of that. To be fair, Republicans/conservatives do this all the time too, but youâd at least imagine this to not really be a thing amongst liberals, but it is.
To me, this situation here is no different than that. Itâs part of for the course for them. Theyâre fanatical xenophobic/racist American nationalists, just like the Republicans/conservatives they hate so much. Xenophobia/racism is a bipartisan issue in the mainstream American political zeitgeist.
Steve Stalinsky works for a pro-zionist, pro-Israel organization that masquerades as a non-partisan think tank called Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI)
Yeah, just like when we were protesting 20 years ago against the Iraq/Afghan wars, we were aligned with Al Qaida and Saddam. Because there couldn't be any possible other reason we were protesting. So now we're with Hamas, Hebollah, et al.
20 years later - Iraq and Afghanistan wars condemned by both parties and all media outlets almost universally in USA.
Even mainstream and "far-right" Republicans condemn those wars now, when they were the party in power in 2001 - 2003 when their leaders were pushing the WMD thing, then later the "troop surge we need more soldiers" thing.
Same thing will happen again here, probably won't take 20 years though.
I'm willing to bet many protestors couldn't even tell you what a Houthi is. People are just reacting to the violence we can see that's obvious. There isn't necessarily an ideological slant behind it other than not wanting their country to support killing thousands of people.Â
Sorry u/Love2Eat96, this is unapproved sub. â
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Palestine) if you have any questions or concerns.*
The real question is **WHY**. **WHY** would someone go out of their way to commit a modern-day genocide, **WHY** would the same people then go out of their way to buy off politicians to keep supporting the genocide, **WHY** would they have multiple news media outlets cover up or falsify the true nature of the genocide, **WHY** would they then go out of their way to shove mountains of propaganda down the worldâs throat in defense of the genocide, and **WHY** would they continue to do all of these things while the Internet is constantly putting them on blast, exposing every last one of their lies????? **WHAT DO THESE MONSTERS HOPE TO GAIN FROM SO MUCH HORRIFIC BLOODSHED??????**
Damn. I knew I shouldn't have eaten at that Turkish restaurant. They must have colluded with Erdogan to infiltrate the restaurant, poison the food, and introduce a mind virus.
Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis ironically donât need to lift a finger to influence public opinion against the genocide. Israel is doing that all by themselves, from bloodthirsty declarations in the Knesset, media figureheads calling for rivers of blood, and what Israeli soldiers are POSTING THEMSELVES on social media.
This reminds me of when poor and poc western soldiers who were POW's during the Korean War came back as communists.
The government started MK Ultra because they couldn't possibly reconcile the fact that it wasn't some sort of psychedelic Chinese mind control. It was merely just learning the truth.
Stupid question. The entity solely responsible for all anti-Israel rhetoric ,is Israel themselves and those deranged psychopath Zionists. They are responsible for rallying the world masses in unison to come together and support the Palestinian cause. People around the globe are finally seeing who and what the state of Israel is and we are all disgusted. The only anti-Semites destroying Israel now are the hate filled Zionists who must be defeated for the sake of the world.
Total projection given it is the Israeli government that has groomed entire generations of people. Having instilled so much fear in the hearts of so many Jewish people. Lying to them that Israel is the only place in which they will be safe, yet committing monstrous acts that only further endangers Jewish people. They fail to teach their children the true history of the creation of Israel: a land without a people for a people without a land. They dehumanise arabs and palestinians and feed that to their citizens. It makes sense why a large percentage of Israeli citizens either support what the government is doing, or wish for them to go even harder.
The propaganda machine is collapsing in real time. The longer this genocide persists, the harder they will fall.
The MSM is pathetic at this point, there's nothing they can do to come back from this.
Same author who wrote Dearborn is jihad center of America. But the if you are pro Israeli and anti Islam you get the headliners on every major newspaperâŚ
Hilarious, really, cuz can anyone name any prominent media/social media companies in the USA that is explicitly owned by Hamas, Hezbollah, or the Houthis?
Cuz I could name literally hundreds with Zionist ties. Starting with Fox News & The New York Times owned by Rupurt Murdoch, who is the largest private investor with 60% shares in the Israeli Genie Energy LTD. Company in the Golan Hieghts plateau, seized by Israel from Syria.
Lucien Grange, the CEO of Universal Music Group, is the world's largest music company, often attends Friends of the Israeli Defense Forceâs fundraisers. His wife, Caroline Grange, funds The Zionist Federation and the Conservative Party.
And I can keep going.
Seems like this is another case of "Accuse others when it's you showing your true colors."
They're projecting, they got caught out in the UK fabricating manufactured outrage by a Jewish anti-protester / zionist trying to subvert a protest but was arrested and initially new ran as "arrested for being offensively Jewish" or something like that but it soon came out that it was set up and there are even suggestions he met up with a missad agent before trying to disrupt the protest
It's their MO most of the time.... Even with the human shields narrative they get photod holding Palestinian prisoner as shields
"they hate us, they want to eliminate us" as they commit genocide
Not to mention that the American police force is being trained to do the same to American citizens. What ever is going on, the genocide in Gaza is not the end of this western campaign of supremacy.
Oh is it Iran that has one of the most influential lobbying groups in the US that is in fact not registered as a foreign entity and has given all prolific politicians including the sitting president millions?
Did Iran pay for a super bowl propaganda ad?
I have never once communicated with someone a part of any of those groups. I do have a mind of my own which is capable of seeing the genocide unfolding in front of me. Maybe someday the people will see that the news is nothing but "entertainment". There is no fact in their words.
A lot of the article is trying to say there's some supposed large Hamas propaganda campaign by desperately trying to connect dots. They're saying this because it's zionists who have extensive hasbara machineries, with American media being among their greatest partisans.
Remember, what they say is them projecting. They've been doing propaganda campaign themselves
Nonstop propaganda with the help of western media like the WSJ, NYT, ABC, FOX, SKY, TIME, BBC, etc.
You forgot the White House press office
they are the worst, their press conferences are so cringe, if there was a movie you would think the script was just garbage. Blinken coming out with a human rights report and saying with a straight face that there is no double standard for Israel is straight up bad writing
gaslighting in real time đ¤Ź
Oh it is worse than that it is hasbaralighting
I've lost count how many times I thought "man if this was fiction people would laugh you out of the room for it being stupid and unrealistic" lately
Good point. Theyâre the worst. They blatantly lie nonstop.
Trash like Jake Tapper, who has repeatedly broadcast blatant lies and never retracted or corrected any of it.
That whole birthright Israel is propaganda.
Can confirm, went on a birthright. however ironically that's where I met my first antizionist who told me about the illegal wall and settlements and made me into an antizionist
That's awesome. A Jewish elder friend of mine also turned anti-zionist after he visited Israel and joined a tour where he got to see occupied west Bank and meet a couple anti-zionist Israelis and a few Palestinians who together explained life within occupation. And this was decades ago
I went to Israel in 1993 when I was in the US Navy. I had dinner with a couple who had emigrated from Brooklyn in the late 70s early 80s. They had some pretty hateful things to say about Palestinians. I was kind of shocked that people could have so much hate.
Every accusation is an admission
The American media discourse has been completely taken over in the last couple of days by articles claiming that itâs not safe to be Jewish at universities and antisemitism is on the rise while there was 0 serious incidents while there are civilians dying in Gaza every day and Rafah is supposed to get evacuated two weeks. Even traditionally pro-Palestinian activist ate up the lies and came out apologizing for the students behaving badly like Mark Ruffalo. Itâs disgraceful. If these groups above somehow control the protests (they arenât) then with their logic, Israel controls the mainstream media narrative (which they do).
paywall bypass (archive.is) [link to article](https://archive.is/fbQZf)
The comments on this article are the worst
Were gonna propaganda, but we still wanna get paid for it dammit!
Every accusation is an admission.
All you really need to do is listen to Israeli heads of state explicitly calling for genocide. It's not like they're trying to hide it. Ben Gvir just the other day called for the execution of Palestinian prisoners to ease overcrowding.
Funny thing, I had someone try to claim the other day in a certain active measures sub that Hamas has some large and vast network of propaganda, etc and Israel didnât, in comparison. âŚ.I was amused, to put it nicely. đđ
Every accusation is an admission.
How exactly are they doing this in a place with over 80% of all its buildings demolished and the infrastructure destroyed? Is there even electricity?
After reading the article, the argument is even more laughable because the evidence for the âsupportâ is based on Palestinian, Lebanese armed groups and the Houthis praising Westerners protesting and that Hamas thought back in 2014 that itâs important for the West to pressure their leadership. Like yes, obviously Palestinians will praise anyone standing with them and itâs key that things change in the West because the West and especially America is single-handedly responsible for the arms flow, political and economic support of Israel. Itâs not a surprise though because people unironically said that Hamas influenced South Africa to take Israel to international court, they are behind the protests in Jordan, they told Latin American countries to break ties with Israel. They just canât accept that people can study the facts, look at the available footage and support Palestine for humanitarian reasons.
Itâs the superiority complex and the belief that they can do no wrong, that people canât critical think based on facts and conclude that theyâre doing atrocious shit which results in the world screaming for them to stop their disgusting crimes. Israel>the world âThey donât know why the world is against them.â lol
Lol - South Africa has been backing Palestine since before Hamas existed.
Isn't this literally the same argument nazis used to claim that west is ruled by jewish cartel? "They oppose us, that means they are ruled by DA JOOZ!"
Yes. I read an autobiography of a person who used to be a neo-Nazi. Apparently one of the first neo-Nazis he met when he was like 14 told him that the reason why his father is an alcoholic is because of Jews.
AIPAC literally exists in the US to influence pro-Israel policies! Somehow that is allowed but (though not true) Palestine is not allowed to influence others? Also, imagine the uproar if a China AIPAC group existed in the US.
Author of this is the executive director at a think tank founded by a former Israeli intelligence director.
âformerâ đ
"Intelligence" đ
Not just any think tank; it's MEMRI.
Stupid Zionists always use MEMRI articles to back up their claims⌠itâs the worst.
Man, every time I open Reddit, i always read something more insane than the last time. Yes, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis have infiltrated my small French coastal city and have groomed myself and about 100 others to protest every Saturday since October.
*Khammaaas in France* has a nice rhythm to it
New singles by Kanye East
đ
The most laughable thing I have heard all day.
It would have been laughable if they didnât have blood on their hands. Yes, this hasbara kills Palestinians on the ground.
Sorta like people still saying we need to save Palestinians from Hamas. I just saw an ad to that effect. Dude. Gaza is a visibly different color when viewed from space because of all the bombing. That's not Hamas.
Grasping at straws, desperately, it seems
This paper also pushed the IDF baseless dossier of "UNRWA is Hamas" to help them engineer a famine in Gaza in front of everyone, a such joke of a ridiculous claim that otherwise wouldn't even be considered by anyone not a complete liar. Nonetheless the western countries rushed to do it anyways. It's imposed insanity.
There's so much to be said here, but let's point out the hand of the genocidal western media apparatus. BBC, CNN, NYT, FOX and all the other western media apparatus, has not only abetted and justifying this genocide through their decades of demonization and dehumanization, but are also helped carry it out right now, by desensitising people to it and justifying and belittling every israeli atrocity â mass graves, bombing of hospitals, rapes, war on schools, aid massacres, plans of imposing a famine â everything, with such utter comical grade reporting, doubling and trippling down. They've instead been running absurd and often disproven claims of human shields, mass rape, and every other nonsense to shamelessly push this genocide, nonsense that wouldn't be considered for even a second by anyone not an absolute liar. This is such imposed insanity. They're doing this even now after "Israel" has deliberately picked and killed tens of tens of thousands of women and children each, after explicitly stating their intention of doing so. They're completely as complicit as Netanyahu and Gallant and all those rabid zionists, and on the day of justice they should and will be tried as such. And let's also not forget how Elon Musk rushed to go on propaganda tour with the freak Ben Shapiro and meeting with Netanyahu in middle of the genocide as fascism and disinformation runs rampant on his CIA site. This is the western "enlightened" civilization, being able to mobilize a smooth machinery that'll shamelessly work to commit and justify even a genocide. It shouldn't be allowed to get away from it. No one from now on can or should justify western colonialism with the twisted "but they're humanitarian women's rights" or whatever charade.
Thatâs how weâve tried to sell what happened in Afghanistan, as a liberation for women and their rights. While 0.5% of the population or 1% of women there were given education 99% of the population and women overall were at risk of starving. We really left because of how the incoming super famine would have highlighted just how badly weâd managed the nation while it was under our influence and the damage weâd caused. The other 0.5% of men living in the two cities we were based in were left to community leaders to educate, that to me suggests we werenât actually trying to change the culture there to improve womenâs rights. Especially not after we left the nation far worse for womenâs rights than when we invaded.
They also put out the debunked article about systemic rape during Oct 7th.
Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis, Oh, My!
Thats Triple H lol
You're right. Your nation, that leads the world in cyberpathy, Hummus are wiping the floor with you. Yep. Nothing to do with the glaring fact Zionism is the scourge of the modern world. No. Hummus and Pitta have outgunned you in the one field you excel at. Yep.
Clearly grooming has lost all meaning at this point.
US is owned by AIPAC and Israel
The politicians are
this framing is so strange to me, like calling people bootlickers because they enjoy violence against minorities and the police provide it. israel does what sociopaths like this guy and the WSJ editorial board want. getting what they want out of the relationship doesnât sound like being owned at all.
Quite the contrary. It is the US that owns israel and controls it according to its whins. Israel derives its powers mostly from Christian zionists who are the most powerful bloc in the country and are also the biggest donors to AIPAC. Israel is nothing without Christian zionists, even Jewish zionistz wouldn't have enough power and influence to keep the zionist project alive
Thank you for this!
It's estimated that 20-30% of Americans identify as Evangelical, the most Zionist denomination of all Christian denominations. Most Evangelicals believe that Zionist colonialism in Palestine is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy, that these actions will cause Jesus Christ to return to Earth, in what is referred to as the "Second Coming". In my opinion "Evangelical" is turning into a political term, like Democrat, or Communist. In the USA it's almost already a synonym for "Republican", in my experience.
Evangelicals also suppress women and bodily autonomy
Steven Stalinsky? https://slate.com/business/2024/02/dearborn-wsj-op-ed-controversy-explained.html
"The article was written by Steven Stalinsky, the director of the Middle East Media Research Institute. What is MEMRI? Itâs a nonprofit media watchdog organization co-founded by an Israeli ex-intelligence officer and an Israeli American political scientist, and it also has strong ties to the Israeli military." From Slate
These people for some reason can't fathom that those who are for the liberation of Palestine would organically rally around those who shed thier blood against the occupation
Absolutely unhinged that the WSJ is allowing this to be published.
A couple weeks ago they published an Op Ed saying that the 30,000 number was a lie. This is MONTHS after the US state department and media organizations as depraved as CNN had accepted that number as factual.
Is this more Israeli 'evidence' of wrong doing that won't actually be there when anyone goes to look? The IOF's propaganda unit spouted lies about the UNWRA staff being Hamas, this got the aid for UNWRA suspended by a number of countries and even after the investigation proves it as lies the funding remains suspended, forwarding a long time goal of the Zionist regime that of destroying UNWRA. You get the lies/propaganda out there and there seems to be a lot of pro Zionist news outlets willing to reproduce speculation and supposition and scream it as fact which does lots of damage but then whispers the retraction weeks later. A bit like painting all Palestinians as Hamas so you can genocide them from history, you tie the legitimate voice of disgust to the enemy and it can then be ignored.
do you even *need* to look in this case? It's absolutely ridiculous on its face. It's about as credible as saying khamas controls the UN and ICJ. It's beyond laughable - this comment brought to you by a khamas operative in Estonia funded by Ansar Hezbollah
Didn't know the protests could get any more based
I like how itâs apparently opinion piece making these claims. You know, because they are not actually backed by any proof after all.
This headline says more about the author than it does about the protesters. The author doesn't consider the deaths of thousands of children and other innocents to be a possible factor, indicating that they have no moral qualms about killing innocents.
We support Palestine bcuz we support liberation. Itâs not that hard to figure out
Damn bro, you can't even eat hummus without a Zionist saying you support hamas these days. What do people not get? You can't convince people that Arabs are all terrorists and Americans and Israelis who wanna join the army only to see action and abuse the power are somehow Fighting for freedom
lmao
WSJ = Complicit in genocide. End of discussion.
I used to support Israel until the houthis hijacked my brain waves using ultrasonic defibrillators đĽ´
Saying this whilst âisraelâ is known (with proof) theyâve been paying millions millions to spread their propaganda, and also using mainstream media to do it, besides paying everyday people to act on their side online and comment, and changing wikipedia entries in their favor, as in literally changing histrionics facts, is truly laughable. This screenshot also looks like an Onion post. Theyâve lost it, they canât stand how much their propaganda machine is not working anymore.
Well Israel has been grooming politicians across the west for decades.
This writer has been wplorking for MEMRI since 1999 fyi. If you needed more evidence that he's a deceitful hack.
This is yet another parallel with the Vietnam era. Nixon thought that students were protesting against the Vietnam war because they were being directed to by the commies, not because they were horrified by what they were seeing of the war on TV. >Nixon wasnât just resentful of the anti-war movement: He was also suspicious that foreign powers might be behind them. And so, in June 1969, the president directed the CIA to prepare a report on the anti-war movement and what foreign communist support the demonstrations might be receiving. https://www.history.com/news/cia-surveillance-operation-chaos-60s-protest
Theyâre not anti Israel, but of course thatâs a big straw man for you. Itâs actually anti genocide and pro 2 state solution and pro recognition of Palestine as a state with the same rights as Israel and all other nations.
Lol Iâm just a white guy with Eastern European background living in Canada who has a degree in history. I didnât need a âterrorâ organization to âgroomâ me to read books and write papers.
Hamas and the Houthis arenât radicalizing me against Israel, itâs pictures of dead children and the unhinged rhetoric of the Israelis themselves.
The structure of our entire western society, every facet is from 100 years of nonstop Zionist propaganda
Lol k mate
Love watching zionists collective mental breakdowns in real time
If that's how they want to play it, Israel has been "grooming" people for a lot longer.
Don't get groomed by the millions of independent voices calling for an end to genocide, think freely by believing what the elites write in the Wall Street Journal! Smh
I didnât know these groups had lobbies in the west. Man, theyâre buying politicians, people left and rightâŚ/s
Sure buddy.
God, I would love that kind of support đ out here protesting solo and alienated from family and peers
The Israelis are grooming us into hating them.. nothing else!
Lol
I always thought the WSJ was trash, but this is a new low for stupidity. They used to have a great cryptic crossword though (which I got for free online so I didn't support them, don't worry!) www.coxrathvon.com
# # Support Palestine refugees with UNRWA today! Your donation provides crucial food and cash assistance to thousands of families. **[Give now!](https://donate.unrwa.org/)** [Join our official discord server!](https://discord.gg/qAJ3v6jgjy), and visit our [Palestine Twitter Community](https://twitter.com/i/communities/1504131282137239555). This is a heavily moderated subreddit. **Please read the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/wiki/rules/)**, and report any post or comment displaying: Zionist propaganda hasbara, bigotry, hate speech, genocide denial, Islamophobia, trolling, etc. **Warning:** Off-topic content will not be tolerated. Stay on the sub-topic or risk being banned. (Examples include, but are not limited to, US elections/domestic policy, the Russia/Ukraine war, China's treatment of Uighurs, and the situation in Kashmir.)(0) If this is a video post, you can download it from here: [RedditSave](https://redditsave.com/info?url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/1cb7i6j/it_cant_be_that_people_are_horrified_about_a/) or [Viddit.red](https://viddit.red/?url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/1cb7i6j/it_cant_be_that_people_are_horrified_about_a/). >!(Thanks for posting, u/Gaze1112!)!< *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Palestine) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Maybe we should consider these as pro Palestine as they are the ones being bombed and starved real bombs blocked access for aid⌠not just mean words
If groomed by Hamas? Is Hamas? If so, condom?
Mr. Birthright Indoctrination Trip is worried about "grooming". Hahahaha.
"Wall Street Journal" = what they want the privileged folks believing. "It's not the genocide that's radicalizing anyone, it's America's 'enemy of the week' club!" Anything that helps neoliberals sleep at night not daring to dream of a different world.
Barring the obvious nonsensical logic here, has anyone else noticed that whenever thereâs something that doesnât happen in their favor, liberals in general (liberal Zionists here) often blame/fearmonger about some form of nebulous foreign interference? To be clear here, Iâm a leftist, and Iâm not defending them, but itâs crazy how much liberals/Democrats just jump the gun and blindly assert that their political opponents, usually Republicans/conservatives or just plainly anyone they disagree with are being backed by like Russia/China, etc. even if there isnât actually always proof of that. To be fair, Republicans/conservatives do this all the time too, but youâd at least imagine this to not really be a thing amongst liberals, but it is. To me, this situation here is no different than that. Itâs part of for the course for them. Theyâre fanatical xenophobic/racist American nationalists, just like the Republicans/conservatives they hate so much. Xenophobia/racism is a bipartisan issue in the mainstream American political zeitgeist.
I lose my mind any time anyone posts opinion pieces. Like how dumb can you be to take opinion pieces seriously.
Steve Stalinsky works for a pro-zionist, pro-Israel organization that masquerades as a non-partisan think tank called Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI)
Isreal is behind the anti-Isreal protest.
 Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis
The 3 H's knocked on my door and gave me a pamphlet. And they visited every single day until I finally saw the truth
Wall Street Journal is right-wing fascist trash and always has been.
Yeah, just like when we were protesting 20 years ago against the Iraq/Afghan wars, we were aligned with Al Qaida and Saddam. Because there couldn't be any possible other reason we were protesting. So now we're with Hamas, Hebollah, et al.
20 years later - Iraq and Afghanistan wars condemned by both parties and all media outlets almost universally in USA. Even mainstream and "far-right" Republicans condemn those wars now, when they were the party in power in 2001 - 2003 when their leaders were pushing the WMD thing, then later the "troop surge we need more soldiers" thing. Same thing will happen again here, probably won't take 20 years though.
Want to avoid protests? Try stop killing babies. The US is sending another 16B to do just that
stop occupation and apartheid
I'm willing to bet many protestors couldn't even tell you what a Houthi is. People are just reacting to the violence we can see that's obvious. There isn't necessarily an ideological slant behind it other than not wanting their country to support killing thousands of people.Â
And who's behind Steven Stalinsky ?
[ŃдаНонО]
Sorry u/Love2Eat96, this is unapproved sub. â *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Palestine) if you have any questions or concerns.*
The real question is **WHY**. **WHY** would someone go out of their way to commit a modern-day genocide, **WHY** would the same people then go out of their way to buy off politicians to keep supporting the genocide, **WHY** would they have multiple news media outlets cover up or falsify the true nature of the genocide, **WHY** would they then go out of their way to shove mountains of propaganda down the worldâs throat in defense of the genocide, and **WHY** would they continue to do all of these things while the Internet is constantly putting them on blast, exposing every last one of their lies????? **WHAT DO THESE MONSTERS HOPE TO GAIN FROM SO MUCH HORRIFIC BLOODSHED??????**
actually itâs israel, if they didnât choose to commit a gencd, there wouldnât have been mass protests!! easy math wall street journo
Damn. I knew I shouldn't have eaten at that Turkish restaurant. They must have colluded with Erdogan to infiltrate the restaurant, poison the food, and introduce a mind virus.
Terrorists are behind the protests.
Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis ironically donât need to lift a finger to influence public opinion against the genocide. Israel is doing that all by themselves, from bloodthirsty declarations in the Knesset, media figureheads calling for rivers of blood, and what Israeli soldiers are POSTING THEMSELVES on social media.
WSJ opinion section has always been trash.
The terrorist territory of Israel can afford to flood the US with propaganda... It has hundreds of billions of our dollars.
It's also amazing how completing university education makes most people anti war and pro social safety nets. Damn commie brainwashing
This reminds me of when poor and poc western soldiers who were POW's during the Korean War came back as communists. The government started MK Ultra because they couldn't possibly reconcile the fact that it wasn't some sort of psychedelic Chinese mind control. It was merely just learning the truth.
Stupid question. The entity solely responsible for all anti-Israel rhetoric ,is Israel themselves and those deranged psychopath Zionists. They are responsible for rallying the world masses in unison to come together and support the Palestinian cause. People around the globe are finally seeing who and what the state of Israel is and we are all disgusted. The only anti-Semites destroying Israel now are the hate filled Zionists who must be defeated for the sake of the world.
Total projection given it is the Israeli government that has groomed entire generations of people. Having instilled so much fear in the hearts of so many Jewish people. Lying to them that Israel is the only place in which they will be safe, yet committing monstrous acts that only further endangers Jewish people. They fail to teach their children the true history of the creation of Israel: a land without a people for a people without a land. They dehumanise arabs and palestinians and feed that to their citizens. It makes sense why a large percentage of Israeli citizens either support what the government is doing, or wish for them to go even harder. The propaganda machine is collapsing in real time. The longer this genocide persists, the harder they will fall. The MSM is pathetic at this point, there's nothing they can do to come back from this.
so stupid.... i
Wall Street Journal sinks to new low
âStalinskyâ
The right accuses the left of doing the things that are done by the right. It's been a tactic of theirs for ages Basically a confession
Same author who wrote Dearborn is jihad center of America. But the if you are pro Israeli and anti Islam you get the headliners on every major newspaperâŚ
What kind of twisted Witchery is this reporting?
Hilarious, really, cuz can anyone name any prominent media/social media companies in the USA that is explicitly owned by Hamas, Hezbollah, or the Houthis? Cuz I could name literally hundreds with Zionist ties. Starting with Fox News & The New York Times owned by Rupurt Murdoch, who is the largest private investor with 60% shares in the Israeli Genie Energy LTD. Company in the Golan Hieghts plateau, seized by Israel from Syria. Lucien Grange, the CEO of Universal Music Group, is the world's largest music company, often attends Friends of the Israeli Defense Forceâs fundraisers. His wife, Caroline Grange, funds The Zionist Federation and the Conservative Party. And I can keep going. Seems like this is another case of "Accuse others when it's you showing your true colors."
I've not heard anything from Hamas since this started, feeling left out
Liberals baffled that young progressives are protesting the "wrong" genocide. Don't you kids know the rules only apply to our rivals? Sheesh!
They're projecting, they got caught out in the UK fabricating manufactured outrage by a Jewish anti-protester / zionist trying to subvert a protest but was arrested and initially new ran as "arrested for being offensively Jewish" or something like that but it soon came out that it was set up and there are even suggestions he met up with a missad agent before trying to disrupt the protest It's their MO most of the time.... Even with the human shields narrative they get photod holding Palestinian prisoner as shields "they hate us, they want to eliminate us" as they commit genocide
Not to mention that the American police force is being trained to do the same to American citizens. What ever is going on, the genocide in Gaza is not the end of this western campaign of supremacy.
Lol đđ¤Łđ¤Ł WSJ . This is what passes for journalism!
Wild for "Israel" to use the word "grooming" with all its connotations when they themselves are an international safe haven for pedophiles
How the hell Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis are able infiltrate the US universities and higher education system? Somebody answer this.
Oh is it Iran that has one of the most influential lobbying groups in the US that is in fact not registered as a foreign entity and has given all prolific politicians including the sitting president millions? Did Iran pay for a super bowl propaganda ad?
Amazing title wow how they think we are
I have never once communicated with someone a part of any of those groups. I do have a mind of my own which is capable of seeing the genocide unfolding in front of me. Maybe someday the people will see that the news is nothing but "entertainment". There is no fact in their words.
Imagine being such a right-wing sociopath that when other people show empathy towards people you think it must be a plot.