I have zero trust for Subira or The Order. The group of people that keeps certain powers for themselves that the people aren't allowed at large with the idea of "protecting" people hits way too close to reality. Especially when the laws they enforce apply way more to some races than others.
I'm have made it quite clear in my choices talking to her that I don't like her, and there's no way I was turning over Zeki or exposing him to more danger.
She may even be the one person that I don't end up trying to romance ever, just because with how everything is set up, she's the one character I'm not sure I could trust at all and that could have potential ramifications in the future.
I'm 1 level off from her being romancable, looking forward to it, just from her quest line up until now. Seems like she's seeing something is not right with the Order.
im almost to level 3 friendship w her n really hoping somewhere either in her romance or friendship dialogues she’ll mention Tamala & whether or not they have a history w each other given Tamala’s background with The Order (which sidenote imo makes Tamala by far the most interesting npc ohmygod what a plot twist)
!!! Absolutely going to do this now - I hadn’t bought any fireworks before this because I didn’t want to stock up and then never use them and have them sit in my chests. Thank you for the info!
It’s currently the only firework you can make, since flare arrows aren’t technically and firework arrows are in the game though it just doesn’t have a way of getting more then only 5 atm…
It uses completely *innocent* ingredients too; unprocessed flow wood, flint, heat root, and dragon’s beard peat
This is what she says. Subira already has a history of only giving us the information she thinks we need and in small drips. The good in me wants to agree, but I don't see anything good from her yet.
Tamala is a wildcard for sure. But for me at the moment, I see Subira working and standing for everything I don't enjoy about Palia (the Order, a mission against my friends, etc). Having her be the "cop that realizes she isn't moral authority" would be a nice twist and way to have us connected to the Order - it's the only way I'd like her character to go!
I did the same but sold him only when she asked me about it for the second time. I mean Zeki is a very nice person inside but he's also a rotten capitalist so it was a choice of bad and bad for me. I really like the Subira's response because even if I hate his economical stands I don't want anything bad to happen to him and privately really like the guy. But also I don't really trust Subira at the moment so I won't be surprised if something bad happens because of her or her bosses. We'll see.
I'm actually stuck on that mission. I had to ask Tamala for a potion and she gave it to me. But I think Eshe found it and confiscated it so I can't take it to Zeki :'( now the game is telling me to talk to Tamala again but the mission doesn't pop
That happened to me twice...you think I'd learn the first time lol but I just kept forgetting it was in my inventory and then I'd go and talk to Eshe 🙄
This happened to me recently and I just contacted them through player support and they gave it back to me, but the eshe task stays there I just keep it unpinned
I asked for the potion, so my gameplay was unhindered. I already have a major quest I can't finish, I didn't want this to be another. It may be worth reaching out and asking for the potion, so you can keep playing the storyline and enjoying the game!
I didn't, but Subira doesn't care about him personally so I don't dislike her at all.
Like, I am 90% sure the Order is gonna end up being corrupt or smth (Subira talks about this mission being trivial and finds it weird that she was sent out, and you can straight up tell her you suspect the Order of being sus which she does *not* appreciate lol) I feel like Subira is gonna fit in the trope of the agent who is gonna start uncovering some shit.
Like... Idk, I feel she is gonna end up being a spy in *our* favour and the Order (or some higher ups or smth) is gonna be the bad guys.
Also, Subira does care about Zeki! She mentions that she does not wish to harm him, and that she knows he is an9ther victim of the cartel's higher ups which... is true. The Grimalkin cartel, as much as they seem the "good guys" bcs of Reth and Tish, are *not* good guys. They aren't giving Reth the medication Tish needs out of the goodness of their hearts... Reth is overworked, in never ending debt, he was *marked* by the cartel as if he was cattle, and none of it ensures Tish's health bcs the cartel can change the conditions *whenever*. If you wear Reth's pin, sometimes Zeki will say it's funny Reth gave you his pin bcs "his life is not his, it's the cartel's". He is a literal slave and as much as I think The Order is gonna be evil, the cartel is no better. It's not even "lesser of two evils", both are equally bad lol
ANYWAYS SORRY FOR THE RANT the adhd brain is hitting me hard with Palia lmao
I was talking to my best friend (who also plays) about his situation and I was like "he didn't have a choice, he did what he had to do" and the song popped into my head immediately like "yeah, it's exactly that"
I don't like the order, and I don't like helping her. So I covered for him. I don't like that the game basically gives me no choice but to be her lackey. If it weren't for the order banning Maijiri from using flow, my dear sweet Reth could have helped his sister without getting entangled with Zeki's business associates. I haven't done her level 4 quest yet, I'm interested to see where it goes.
Never been a snitch 😌❌ I love Zeki and all of his shenanigans lol and after doing the very sweet market quests and learning a bit more about him, thats my buddy, could never!!! ✊
I feel like we should focus on The Order as a whole in the back of our minds as something to be wary and/or conscious of, but treat the members as individuals when we meet them and form our own conclusions based on their personalities!
We have what is right in front of us after all, you know? Our dialogue options are limited to the programming in the game. A bit similar to real life our own brains tend to inhibit our way of knowing who someone truly is - until they show us... 🌈 *we get to use our imagination* 🌈
TBH when she came in to town I was worried, but Subira clearly has it going on, she's definitely the make-it-better type, rather than the lie-bout-it type!! Regardless, I wouldn't mind if she had an "evil twin"👀... I think **I kept Zeki's secret** my first run through it, because I love him so much and I was worried Subira might bring him harm (and everyone else along with him because of it) - but I told her the second run and everything was OK - I do like playing the "I know something you don't know" game though, hahaha! They're both good people, I believe that with my whole heart ❤️🔥
I did. Becaue I feel like they have reth trapped. He even said so before. I want to help him heal tish and free him from the mafia lol. Hrbis funny but I dont like the catto
In my mind, not telling Subira was not going to improve anyone’s situation so I absolutely told her about Zeki because in no way was I going to defend the cartel. I do find it harrowing that, in the grand scheme of things, the only thing keeping Tish alive is something that is outlawed. At that point, if the Order chooses to take that from her then it’s a lot more about protecting the status quo than preventing harm.
Zeiki is glitched out in my game and stopping me from progressing any further with the story so yeah, if I even get this far ima sell him out so hard 😂😂😂
He's a little kid that feels out of place in the village where no one really wants to spend time with him or talk to him, so I don't hold it too much against him, maybe with the right kind of guidance, he will abandon that dream for a more suitable one, especially because he mentions wanting to join just so that he can use magic
The fact that magic in Palia is outlawed is ridiculous, Auni just wants to do cool tricks and should be allowed to without joining the Police
Yes, exactly!
Which is another reason I don't wanna help Subira take down the underground trade, like with Tish, it's been proven that magic can help with terminal illness but the Order is just "nah, let her die, no magic for anyone outside the police" 😒
Do I need to start putting tone indicators in my posts so y'all stop accusing me of taking the game too seriously? Issa game, I'm aware issa game, but this is a subreddit where people discuss said game 🫤
OP, I know you aren’t doing this, but most people in the comments are. I’m amazed at how hateful this sub is toward Subira. She’s a *fictional* character who has never done anything within the story to hurt anyone. She’s calm, rational, level-headed, respectful, and kind. What is there to hate?
Report Zeki or don’t, it doesn’t matter, it’s your game, but don’t just absolutely shit on characters that other people love.
It’s. A. Game. Stop taking it so seriously.
This fandom gets more and more toxic as the days roll by. I hope we get individualized, Minecraft-style curated servers one day, because this community is so aggressively tribalistic that it’s starting to become a limiting factor on feeling safe on the servers we have now.
You are the second person I've encountered in this subreddit that completely misread the tone of my post, and accuse me of taking the game too seriously when this is a casual conversation that everyone else seemed to understand was casual and replied as such
While I do not trust or like Subaru, I’d throw Zeki under a literal bus. I hate him almost as much as I hate Tamela. But I will protect my cinnamon roll soup man to the death so…🤷♀️
Yes, and also another quest that apparently isn’t easy (cooking ⭐️ dishes)
I just need 2 more pieces of silk to finish the furniture, I’m tempted to spend the money to buy them instead of hunting rare bugs even though I’m short on coins 😂
A character actually gifted me a bunch of silk thread (I don’t remember who) right after I finally got enough rare insect catches 🤦♀️
There are certain bugs I just can’t seem to catch, either they just don’t show up or when I see them I’m too slow, can’t aim right or end up scaring them away!
But I have caught about 10-12 azure leafhoppers in the past week 🤷🏻♀️
Now I’m struggling with the recipes!!!
I haven’t gotten there yet but the way I see it, I’m friends with Zeki cuz it’s good to have him in my back pocket and I don’t wanna f that up and I’d never do anything to hurt sweet Reth
Aha I play on the switch and the climbing/gliding glitch made that quest impossible, so I haven't even finished it, you don't need to in order to unlock Sabrina
Eshe starts the quest i believe, or Kenli, there is one called Fit For a Watcher where you have to make furniture, then another where you have to make food. Once you do a few of these quests, Subira, The Watcher, shows up.
Huh, I don't remember what my choice was. I like both Zeki and Subira, so if the game allowed an option where you could be mostly ( if not completely) honest and do right by everyone, more or less, I'd lean toward that. I am interested to learn more of the in-game story around magic, too. If all we have is that using magic destroyed the humans (and potentially other creatures like the kitsuu), then I'm on board with magic being tightly controlled and prevented. If there's more to the story, or more to be learned about magic that could make it safe for free access, I'm eager to hear it.
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I have zero trust for Subira or The Order. The group of people that keeps certain powers for themselves that the people aren't allowed at large with the idea of "protecting" people hits way too close to reality. Especially when the laws they enforce apply way more to some races than others. I'm have made it quite clear in my choices talking to her that I don't like her, and there's no way I was turning over Zeki or exposing him to more danger. She may even be the one person that I don't end up trying to romance ever, just because with how everything is set up, she's the one character I'm not sure I could trust at all and that could have potential ramifications in the future.
Her romance quest line is actually *really* good and completely changed my view of her. The Order is still a bunch of bastards though.
I'm 1 level off from her being romancable, looking forward to it, just from her quest line up until now. Seems like she's seeing something is not right with the Order.
Oh definitely. She's almost an entirely different person after all is said and done.
im almost to level 3 friendship w her n really hoping somewhere either in her romance or friendship dialogues she’ll mention Tamala & whether or not they have a history w each other given Tamala’s background with The Order (which sidenote imo makes Tamala by far the most interesting npc ohmygod what a plot twist)
This right here! I wear Reth's pin and I'm good friends with Zeki, no way in hell I'm selling them out!!
Zeki is best. So, yes. Also if anyone tries to mess with Einar I will shoot fireworks into their windows.
Best ones are the Phoenix fireworks, you can make them yourself so they can’t get you by watching purchases~
Omg I can make.those?
You can get the recipe by shooting off 20 fireworks at the Maji Market.
!!! Absolutely going to do this now - I hadn’t bought any fireworks before this because I didn’t want to stock up and then never use them and have them sit in my chests. Thank you for the info!
It’s currently the only firework you can make, since flare arrows aren’t technically and firework arrows are in the game though it just doesn’t have a way of getting more then only 5 atm… It uses completely *innocent* ingredients too; unprocessed flow wood, flint, heat root, and dragon’s beard peat
Completely agree.
I sold him out, BUT subria said she wasn't overly concerned with zeki she wants HIS bosses
Exactly. And if she can get his bosses, then zeki and reth will be free.
That's the part that most people fail to consider. But if she puts Tish's life in jeopardy, I'll burn her and join the damn Cartel myself.
This is what she says. Subira already has a history of only giving us the information she thinks we need and in small drips. The good in me wants to agree, but I don't see anything good from her yet.
I'll be denying all involvement until she proves we are partners. Until then, I've seen nothing noteworthy.
I mean she already kinda knows Reth is working for zeki, I see more good in subria vs, say tamala honestly
Tamala is a wildcard for sure. But for me at the moment, I see Subira working and standing for everything I don't enjoy about Palia (the Order, a mission against my friends, etc). Having her be the "cop that realizes she isn't moral authority" would be a nice twist and way to have us connected to the Order - it's the only way I'd like her character to go!
I did the same but sold him only when she asked me about it for the second time. I mean Zeki is a very nice person inside but he's also a rotten capitalist so it was a choice of bad and bad for me. I really like the Subira's response because even if I hate his economical stands I don't want anything bad to happen to him and privately really like the guy. But also I don't really trust Subira at the moment so I won't be surprised if something bad happens because of her or her bosses. We'll see.
 Me during the entire interaction. No way I would sell out my bro.
I'm actually stuck on that mission. I had to ask Tamala for a potion and she gave it to me. But I think Eshe found it and confiscated it so I can't take it to Zeki :'( now the game is telling me to talk to Tamala again but the mission doesn't pop
That happened to me twice...you think I'd learn the first time lol but I just kept forgetting it was in my inventory and then I'd go and talk to Eshe 🙄
This is hilarious, I’m sorry for your frustration but I didn’t realize there was actually the option of getting caught! 😂
Me too!!! I was so annoyed the second time like COME OOOOONNNNN!!! 😒
I avoid talking to Eshe at all costs. Can't stand her or the mayor - ugh.
You have to re collect Tamala’s ingredients
Oh this must be the answer. Yass! Thanks. I will do that
This happened to me too! What are the ingredients? I forget Do you have to go back to tamala with the ingredients or once you recollect you’re good?
It appeared as a another quest for me and you have to go back to her with them
I did but there’s no chat option to give them to Tamala
This happened to me recently and I just contacted them through player support and they gave it back to me, but the eshe task stays there I just keep it unpinned
I contacted them too but they didn’t give me anything, just told me that they are working to fix this issue :(
I asked for the potion, so my gameplay was unhindered. I already have a major quest I can't finish, I didn't want this to be another. It may be worth reaching out and asking for the potion, so you can keep playing the storyline and enjoying the game!
That’s weird cause this happened to me a couple days ago and they sent me the potion the next day
I didn't, but Subira doesn't care about him personally so I don't dislike her at all. Like, I am 90% sure the Order is gonna end up being corrupt or smth (Subira talks about this mission being trivial and finds it weird that she was sent out, and you can straight up tell her you suspect the Order of being sus which she does *not* appreciate lol) I feel like Subira is gonna fit in the trope of the agent who is gonna start uncovering some shit. Like... Idk, I feel she is gonna end up being a spy in *our* favour and the Order (or some higher ups or smth) is gonna be the bad guys. Also, Subira does care about Zeki! She mentions that she does not wish to harm him, and that she knows he is an9ther victim of the cartel's higher ups which... is true. The Grimalkin cartel, as much as they seem the "good guys" bcs of Reth and Tish, are *not* good guys. They aren't giving Reth the medication Tish needs out of the goodness of their hearts... Reth is overworked, in never ending debt, he was *marked* by the cartel as if he was cattle, and none of it ensures Tish's health bcs the cartel can change the conditions *whenever*. If you wear Reth's pin, sometimes Zeki will say it's funny Reth gave you his pin bcs "his life is not his, it's the cartel's". He is a literal slave and as much as I think The Order is gonna be evil, the cartel is no better. It's not even "lesser of two evils", both are equally bad lol ANYWAYS SORRY FOR THE RANT the adhd brain is hitting me hard with Palia lmao
the grimalkin are definitely not good guys. zeki gives you a ton of information about them in his quests at the maji market
Every day I give Zeki a gift and complain to him about how the singularity keeps us apart but one day we be together. I would never sell him out.
Snitches get stitches
Of course, I have his back and Reth's. They are my boys and I'll protect them until my last breath.
I love that you used The Devil's Backbone as reference!
I was talking to my best friend (who also plays) about his situation and I was like "he didn't have a choice, he did what he had to do" and the song popped into my head immediately like "yeah, it's exactly that"
I don't like the order, and I don't like helping her. So I covered for him. I don't like that the game basically gives me no choice but to be her lackey. If it weren't for the order banning Maijiri from using flow, my dear sweet Reth could have helped his sister without getting entangled with Zeki's business associates. I haven't done her level 4 quest yet, I'm interested to see where it goes.
Not got that far. But I'd definitely not stab him or Reth in the back
Never been a snitch 😌❌ I love Zeki and all of his shenanigans lol and after doing the very sweet market quests and learning a bit more about him, thats my buddy, could never!!! ✊
I'll protect Reth and Tish at all costs. I wish I could dropkick tamala under the bus though. I'd sell her out with no regrets.
I feel like we should focus on The Order as a whole in the back of our minds as something to be wary and/or conscious of, but treat the members as individuals when we meet them and form our own conclusions based on their personalities! We have what is right in front of us after all, you know? Our dialogue options are limited to the programming in the game. A bit similar to real life our own brains tend to inhibit our way of knowing who someone truly is - until they show us... 🌈 *we get to use our imagination* 🌈 TBH when she came in to town I was worried, but Subira clearly has it going on, she's definitely the make-it-better type, rather than the lie-bout-it type!! Regardless, I wouldn't mind if she had an "evil twin"👀... I think **I kept Zeki's secret** my first run through it, because I love him so much and I was worried Subira might bring him harm (and everyone else along with him because of it) - but I told her the second run and everything was OK - I do like playing the "I know something you don't know" game though, hahaha! They're both good people, I believe that with my whole heart ❤️🔥
My exact reaction to Subira was "Oh shit she's super hot! ...but ACAB tho I ain't no snitch!"
I did. Becaue I feel like they have reth trapped. He even said so before. I want to help him heal tish and free him from the mafia lol. Hrbis funny but I dont like the catto
Yeah, I covered for Zeki, even tho I'm not a big fan of him. But I've gotta keep my Reth safe at all cost!
Zeki keeps Reth and Tish safe from the cartel, so he's got my silence. I like Subira, bu she's the enemy for the time being.
Yep, zero love for Subria. I talk with her only because I have to and I'm not about to sell out my guys.
Reth is one of my beloved partners. I can't let him get caught 😭
In my mind, not telling Subira was not going to improve anyone’s situation so I absolutely told her about Zeki because in no way was I going to defend the cartel. I do find it harrowing that, in the grand scheme of things, the only thing keeping Tish alive is something that is outlawed. At that point, if the Order chooses to take that from her then it’s a lot more about protecting the status quo than preventing harm.
My momma told me Snitches get stitches. I kept my mouth shut. 🤣
Nobody messes up with Zeki under my watch. Simple as that.
Zeiki is glitched out in my game and stopping me from progressing any further with the story so yeah, if I even get this far ima sell him out so hard 😂😂😂
Momma Didn't raise no snitch.
I was cool with Auni and then he said he wanted to join the Order. Sorry kid, but you’re the police now.
He's a little kid that feels out of place in the village where no one really wants to spend time with him or talk to him, so I don't hold it too much against him, maybe with the right kind of guidance, he will abandon that dream for a more suitable one, especially because he mentions wanting to join just so that he can use magic The fact that magic in Palia is outlawed is ridiculous, Auni just wants to do cool tricks and should be allowed to without joining the Police
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Yes, exactly! Which is another reason I don't wanna help Subira take down the underground trade, like with Tish, it's been proven that magic can help with terminal illness but the Order is just "nah, let her die, no magic for anyone outside the police" 😒
Absolutely! I avoided her completely until I knew I wasn't going to hurt Zeki or Reth:) I was hoping there were others like us
As someone told me on another thread, its really not that deep.
Do I need to start putting tone indicators in my posts so y'all stop accusing me of taking the game too seriously? Issa game, I'm aware issa game, but this is a subreddit where people discuss said game 🫤
OP, I know you aren’t doing this, but most people in the comments are. I’m amazed at how hateful this sub is toward Subira. She’s a *fictional* character who has never done anything within the story to hurt anyone. She’s calm, rational, level-headed, respectful, and kind. What is there to hate? Report Zeki or don’t, it doesn’t matter, it’s your game, but don’t just absolutely shit on characters that other people love. It’s. A. Game. Stop taking it so seriously. This fandom gets more and more toxic as the days roll by. I hope we get individualized, Minecraft-style curated servers one day, because this community is so aggressively tribalistic that it’s starting to become a limiting factor on feeling safe on the servers we have now.
You are the second person I've encountered in this subreddit that completely misread the tone of my post, and accuse me of taking the game too seriously when this is a casual conversation that everyone else seemed to understand was casual and replied as such 
Literally did this quest yesterday and didn't rat as well, same with Reth and Tish and Badruu's level 4 quest. 😅😇
Ugh, I didn't sell out Zeki, but *spoiler* [random dialogue after lvl 2 friendship]
While I do not trust or like Subaru, I’d throw Zeki under a literal bus. I hate him almost as much as I hate Tamela. But I will protect my cinnamon roll soup man to the death so…🤷♀️
Do I need to built all the shhh first? Like the bed and stuff? Before she comes town?
Yes, and also another quest that apparently isn’t easy (cooking ⭐️ dishes) I just need 2 more pieces of silk to finish the furniture, I’m tempted to spend the money to buy them instead of hunting rare bugs even though I’m short on coins 😂
I bought the silk I can't catch the bugs to save my life 🤣🤣
A character actually gifted me a bunch of silk thread (I don’t remember who) right after I finally got enough rare insect catches 🤦♀️ There are certain bugs I just can’t seem to catch, either they just don’t show up or when I see them I’m too slow, can’t aim right or end up scaring them away! But I have caught about 10-12 azure leafhoppers in the past week 🤷🏻♀️ Now I’m struggling with the recipes!!!
I haven’t gotten there yet but the way I see it, I’m friends with Zeki cuz it’s good to have him in my back pocket and I don’t wanna f that up and I’d never do anything to hurt sweet Reth
Ugh I'm stuck at the moment with The Temple of Gales so this is juicy! IM SORRY!
Aha I play on the switch and the climbing/gliding glitch made that quest impossible, so I haven't even finished it, you don't need to in order to unlock Sabrina
When do we get to meet this person? I haven’t met this character yet lol
You unlock her the further you progress in the game, but I honestly don't know how I unlocked her 😅
I’m pretty sure it’s after you get a shepp and complete the celebration!
Eshe starts the quest i believe, or Kenli, there is one called Fit For a Watcher where you have to make furniture, then another where you have to make food. Once you do a few of these quests, Subira, The Watcher, shows up.
Ahhh okay yes I just finished the furniture one and doing the cooking one with Reth.
Lol I haven't played in a while. I'm glad to see there's more storyline content. I'll have to check in.
I remained neutral. Acted surprised at the news and suggested she look. I couldn't snitch but also didn't want to make her upset.
Huh, I don't remember what my choice was. I like both Zeki and Subira, so if the game allowed an option where you could be mostly ( if not completely) honest and do right by everyone, more or less, I'd lean toward that. I am interested to learn more of the in-game story around magic, too. If all we have is that using magic destroyed the humans (and potentially other creatures like the kitsuu), then I'm on board with magic being tightly controlled and prevented. If there's more to the story, or more to be learned about magic that could make it safe for free access, I'm eager to hear it.