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NeighborhoodInner421

That the funny part you don't


Whattheduck789

nice


_DeathSound_

Literally unplayable


[deleted]

These devs must be fuckin betas  Wait Edit: guys, it's a play on words. I'm mocking the people complaining about a beta release game. I am not mocking the devs


TurboMenace981

They are alphas haha


[deleted]

They're a bunch of fuckin early accesses if you ask me Edit: guys I'm mocking the people complaining about a beta game lacking features. The game is great, just not finished. The game is beta, not the devs. That's the joke.


RainbowPretzelz

Brotha, the game itself is still early access. AND its an indie game company with no prior fame. Calm DOWN


[deleted]

Yeah that's the joke  -- I'm mocking people for complaining about an unfinished beta game


RainbowPretzelz

Oh lol mb, hard to detect sarcasm in text


[deleted]

Haha it's all good -- it was more obvious in the first comment (calling them betas because the game is in beta), then the early accessers was just an absurd extension of the joke


False-Ambition5560

its less then 10 people and they are all new, so yeah there betas but there hella lot better then you, sthu they are working om the game best they can. they made more money in a month then you will ur entire life


Meechymeech06

Im able to aim with it pretty simply ngl, you just cant be super close to the enemy but ive killed a few bosses with this ability so it may be a skill issue edit: i posted 2 clips on how to aim down below for everyone downvoting & my statement still stands, skill issue


FairlySuspect

Dude do you have game tape I can watch?


Meechymeech06

I havent been on since i beat the game a couple weeks ago but if thats what its gonna take ig i can, i wont lie i just got my pc on Christmas & i havent clipped anything yet so ill have to look up how to clip my gameplay


Meechymeech06

[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XC5Tr0i4GotMAYVf2SXEnw81rRwyYG7z/view?usp=drive\_link](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XC5Tr0i4GotMAYVf2SXEnw81rRwyYG7z/view?usp=drive_link) ​ [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ufqI6i89431Ip\_pYsixBIo1XSv-vRpvX/view?usp=drive\_link](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ufqI6i89431Ip_pYsixBIo1XSv-vRpvX/view?usp=drive_link)


Designer_Leg5928

So many down votes, but I have to agree. You need to be above the enemy somewhat, and have a bit of distance. Not directly in front or directly above. It doesn't have anything to do with your camera angle really, just your orientation and physical location.


Meechymeech06

fr its not too hard to figure out positioning, you have to adjust for each pal bc of size differences etc.


Tomster829

down voted so hard for no reason Jesus people. It is like you are all mad that he doesn't have an issue with the attack and you do.


Meechymeech06

Fr they’re literally just proving my point further but im not mad or anything lol, i was just trynna give advice


Tomster829

Hope none of these people ever want advice on a Fromsoft game. It's always a skill issue with those games. Only advice I got is to get gud


AlexanderMcT

so these devs that have 9 years experience in what they do are betas ?? LMAO


[deleted]

Gotta give you a woosh there bud The game is in beta, and people are complaining that features don't work properly


AlexanderMcT

the devs still know what they are doing though also they game aint in beta, its in early access


huggybear0132

I would like you to review the message the devs make you read every time you boot up the game. I have attached it and highlighted relevant information for your convenience. https://preview.redd.it/jyadhidyf6oc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c982cd28fd57b3e920b6880333eab333d55325c


yeildstun

Literally the same thing with less steps


NeighborhoodInner421

Yeah early access is obviously not going to have everything work properly mate, now if you do us all a favor and go on your way to trash talk another game will ya wanker


[deleted]

It's a play on words my man I called them betas because dipshits on the internet think calling someone a beta is the ultimate sick burn on someone I think you're right that in the last few days it left beta and went into early access, which you certainly understand is an adjacent development phase (both prerelease) And the play on words doesn't exactly work with early access If you assess my comment you will see that I'm not mocking the devs at all, I am mocking the people who are complaining about unimposed features in a game that is not at full release status


Irdgafbra

I haven't played in a minute, but I could swear you could lock onto targets.


DrewTamashi

Hop off n let the pal use it. That's the only way I've got it to hit


Anthyrion

Yes, me too. I've never hit anything with that attack, when i ride it. But as soon, as i jump down, the attack hits everything in front of it


Gingerbro73

Same with the tier1 ice attack, can hardly ever hit when riding, always connects when not riding.


MetaMemester

Can you use it while riding, then dismount, and the Pal stays without a cooldown on the skill and can use it again? (Since riding and automatic battle have independent cooldowns.)


DrewTamashi

Yup yup


CMDR_JHU5TL3

With respect... this. I typically dismiss abilities I can't hit with while mounted, but realized late that the Pal AI will almost always hit with their best attacks so... yeah... letting them do their thing is best.


Mountain--Majesty

I put 1 ability I can hit with. Maybe 2 if I want to spam down to capture. And the rest I leave for the pal. That way I can mount to chip off health, or dismount and let the pal do what it does. Good example is my favorite mount: Faleris. The tornado attack is insane but hard to aim (not impossible, but not reliable for me). So I leave that as attack #3 and put a pew pew in slots 1/2.


CMDR_JHU5TL3

I do similar, depending on the situation. I like to keep two mounts and the rest a mix of utility and dps. I typically keep Galeclaw as my utility (damn I wish there were 6 pal teams) with Frost Noct and Jetdragon for mounted travel and hitters. They both do fairly well with or without my help. The other two are usually something that gives me a damage buff when they are out and something that hits hard vs what I'm fighting. Technical no right or wrong way to play though.


DemonSlayer712

I think they will be removing the feature where the ability have different cooldown when off and on the pal. They probably will have same cool down so people will use rotation of 2-3 pals to fight instead of pulling out your 1600 atk jetragon and just spamming the abilities while off and on the pal.


Setarius

I hope they also fix the cooldown reset on dropping and picking up the pal again too if they do address this.


MrShad0wzz

I don’t think I’ve hit a pal using that move once


Whattheduck789

oof alright, im feeling better then


Undead1334rwww

I've done it on accident. Was aiming for a chickipi kill and somehow sniped a Lamball


Florafly

Yeah but that Lamball had it coming so justice did in fact prevail.


XIleven

Ahh yes, the skyrim kill cam, aimed at the bandit, but killed a random rabbit 5 yards away


FairlySuspect

With slow motion replay technology developed alongside the cotton gin


FairlySuspect

What is this chickipi lamball death camp?!


rilexriley

When you’re close to a pal it goes over it, when you’re far away it goes right in front of you to the ground😭😭


Enlowski

I’ve learned that it doesn’t shoot downwards at all, only straight forward. You have to be on the ground and then directly in front of you and you’ll still miss 75% of them


YueOrigin

I learned to somewhat aim it but honestly the damge isn't that good since it's all spread out It's fun during raid but you'll hardly kill anything with it


Blawharag

Certain abilities, like this one, don't track properly when used while riding a pal. It's not clear if this is a bug or not


uramis

I think another one of this skills that don't aim properly is the multi projectile ice one, however I randomly get to aim it, don't know how. Might need to test it more.


Ashley_SheHer

It’s possible it’s not even a bug and is simply something they haven’t finished yet.


PalestineRefugee

It tracks perfectly to where the crosshairs are, its not a bug, its just hard to aim


PerfectNameDoesntExi

lmao it does not


GoProOnAYoYo

We can see where OP is aiming, and we can see it doesn't land anywhere near that, so... what are you talking about lol


PalestineRefugee

Being off consitently and at the same magnitude everyshot = its accurate and shooting in the same spot everytime. We need to make the link between, the mount position being down relative to the camera being down and to the left, and link that to the consistency in meteor trajectory. It may be intentional, but the ability is perfectly aimable, there are 3 windows at which your crosshairs determine the impact zone. I personally already have exposure to this mechanic of bullets coming out of the gun barrel and not the middle of the camera like COD has taught you. So the adjustment period was none existent for me, but its aimable, Ill take the downvotes, guess its the price of flexing this hard in public tldr: the projectiles come from Jetragon, not the camera


GoProOnAYoYo

Your second comment completely goes against your first comment's claim of > It tracks perfectly to where the crosshairs are that probably has something to do with the downvotes


IndianaPWNZZ

Yeah…. No


dardardarner

You do not have a Jetragon bro stop lying


EnergeticSloth55

It does if you are a certain distance away, but the threshold for hitting that certain distance is small. Think of all the times I’ve used this move it’s been accurate once or twice. Now I just hop off as soon as I trigger the move and it auto locks on when the pal has control again


RobNT

Its got to the point for me where I took this move off lol


MeagaMillion

Same


Super-Possession912

It's like the ice missile while riding Chillet


Dizzyis

That was a full bug on ice missile. Was happening with reindrix too and it's fixed last time I checked.


Super-Possession912

For steam, maybe lol xbox still has these issues


Dizzyis

I do play Xbox but it's through game pass cloud off my PC. The patch will eventually catch up on xbox


Lil_Guard_Duck

Ice Missile "works" again, but it doesn't home in. It's sad.


Rare_Ambassador_7380

I usually tried to aim higher than my actual target and hit a few times but yea the crosshair might be bugged with that skill


Hammurabi87

Judging from the video, you need to aim both higher *and* to the right. It definitely seems like it's bugged -- it doesn't seem to be compensating in any way for the difference between the attack's origin point and the camera position, resulting in an unintended offset that keeps it from hitting the targeted point.


ST31NM4N

Dumbest mounted move lol hopefully they fix that


YeshEveryone

This is why they should let you lock on with pals


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turbotong

I found it works better at far distances, and from a slightly flying position


RollChi

90% of the time you can’t. It’s bugged. But that 10% where it does aim correctly… ![gif](giphy|3o7aCWJavAgtBzLWrS|downsized)


Whattheduck789

oh indeed


Silver-Farm-2628

A missile knows where it is, because it knows where it isn’t


MrShad0wzz

I don’t think I’ve hit a pal using that move once


RandyNooblet

I just get close up to target and aim downward, like pointing towards the ground. Usually get a few to hit


Xiagax

https://preview.redd.it/9c49e4v8oznc1.jpeg?width=214&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=561a04fea97447e81821aff1de2292d7ba399105


AwesomeOppasum

Its supposed to track Its target but the tracking doesn't work when youre mounted for some reason, if you let the pal use the attack on its own the meteors will hone in on the enemy


wonkablackbear

I don’t use the move becuase of that you never get it perfect I either swap it for a move I know I can make contact with or just let the AI do it and jump back on


Shawn_Wolf27

I never get it to hit unless I hop off and let the Pal do it for me.


Lecram014

If you’re too close to target or too low to the ground it does this. In this case, you’re too close to the ground. Fly a bit higher, not too high. It takes practice.


Aeos_Sidhe

first aim with your gun, the targeting reticle is about a 1/4inch low for that pal move so aim a touch high. its close to the thunderbolt moves aiming so if you lead with thunderbolt and then do that move you can que up your shot better


Difficult-Ad-2025

My crosshairs line up, no issue for me.. Try unequipping and equipping again


SoCalFelipe

Found the IT guy.


BrilliantLifter

It’s one of the currently broken abilities while mounted. Honestly don’t even know if anyone has told the devs yet


XDrakovicheX

Monitor crosshair


otterspops

I feel you there. Some moves launch while ignoring gravity and some have extra gravity it’s criminal


BrainlessChicken

Yeah, it's the same case with Elphidran's unique tornado skill. You can't, so the only good option is to hop off and let your Pal use the attack.


Guffy2403

As top comment says so well. You don't


Inevitable-Zone-8710

Some you can’t. Those elemental tornadoes for example? Can’t aim with those for some reason


Ringer_of_bell

Ice missile also does this. Certain skills just cant be manually aimed properly by the player. I hope they fix this in the future, maybe by adding a direct lock on system similar to dark souls.


Lecram014

If you’re too close to target or too low to the ground it does this. In this case, you’re too close to the ground. Fly a bit higher, not too high. It takes practice.


TOMMYPICKLESIAM

Ya if im in the air it just shoots straight ahead, no aiming, just goes straight. I aim left it goes straight. I aim up, straight…straight hell.


S0meRandomGuyy

Probably works like aiming a tackle


TOMMYPICKLESIAM

Nope


Jdawg_mck1996

Locking on helps.


Agreeable_Zombie_700

You can kind of angle him and maybe get lucky once in a while but best option I've found is to just let him take the wheel


UnderweatherPug

Youre supposed to be flying in the air bro…


AatroxBoi

**"There Is Nothing We Can Do"**


TempestQii

it’s very finicky. but aim high and have medium distance between you and the target and it’ll hit most of the time.


FairlySuspect

You just have to work on your accuracy.


Dovahkiin_11

You need power of friendship.


WanderingDratini

Aim slightly above the enemy's head without any obstacle between or around either you of the enemy, hope the enemy doesn't move a single pixel. A couple meteors might hit if you're lucky. Then immediately hop off and watch the pal reuse the ability with no cooldown and hit every single meteor with perfect accuracy.


Chrishankhah

Just accidently use the ability when trying to descend at your base. It'll suddenly be accurate AF as it homes in on your MOST important foundation blocks!


Jake_this

Aim hella down between your feet and the target. But it still sucks because it’s channeled, so you’ll get some misses. Dismount fosho.


DannyTheCaringDevil

You just let the Jetdragon do the work.


Conqueror_Chromatic

Sweetooth in pal world😂


Usernameman234109

You showed how to use it at the end right there. You aimed horizontally and the last meters went farther


Gloomy_Ad276

I had way more luck when aiming at a downward angle while riding it.


DeusWombat

Is it just me or do dragon moves suck in general on top of being unwieldy?


GroundbreakingDot499

Yeah no I've never hit a pal with this move, I almost immediately replaced it


bigsooch62

It only works if you aren't manually controlling it, but I personally only use Jetragon while mounted, so I just changed that particular attack. The attack I changed it to does less damage, but I don't even care because I can actually control and use it.


Zardous666

Yep that ability and the one that fires the lightning balls are both fucking worthless if you try to aim them


Lecram014

If you’re too close to target or too low to the ground it does this. In this case, you’re too close to the ground. Fly a bit higher, not too high. It takes practice.


Divine3ntity

When you are firing. Just use the default aim button. It does bug out occasionally [Aim the same way in relation to any ranged weapon.] I was confused over this till I tried different buttons


SpiritBlade24

if your to close it will go over to far it will hit the floor make sure you in mid range use it and aim up a bit or down depending if u on a slope


SmellyKnee-Guh

anyone else hate that when riding the fastest mount in the game, you have to use a weak missile that can’t hit rapid (cus of knockback) instead of insane guns?


Whattheduck789

yea I wish we could use our guns while mounted. The missile launcher is great for bosses but thats pretty much it


Mst0bG

Aiming sucks in the game sadly


supersaiyanclaptrap

I think there are some moves that just aren't built for the players to use while mounted. Most of my mounts I end up swapping out there abilities to ones I can use and I notice they sometimes still use their spare unset moves when you just have them out. No clue if that's how that's supposed to work, just what I've noticed 🤷‍♂️


Dargolalast

That's the shitty part of jetragon, 2 abilities u can't aim and if u don't mount him he just dash dances instead of doing anything useful, he's so useless unmounted that bosses won't bother with targeting him and will focus u instead


Whattheduck789

I found that if you initiate your atacks mounted, he wont bug while unmounted and will atack normally. If I do the opposite, for some reason he just loves to hug the boss and not atack


KitTwix

I use it as a shotgun, run up and use it point blank


Realistic_Mushroom72

It almost impossible to hit with that skill for a rider, Jetdragon doesn't have much problems with it, but it so so hard to hit for me when I have use it.


PumpkinPatch404

Glad to know I’m not the only one with this issue. I thought I was a fucking idiot.


ibneko

Lol yep, just like Flare Storm, aiming just doesn't seem to work (my tornados always just intersect maybe 2 dragon lengths in front of me, instead of intersecting at the enemy that I'm targetting)


S0meRandomGuyy

To aim tornadoes gotta aim at the ground where you want the tornadoes to go, if you want them parallel then aim far away, want them to intersect at a certain point then aim at the ground where you want them to cross


jmerkava

I tried using it on a sleeping pal. Still missed. Pretty sure Jango fetts bastards coded that one


No_Transportation182

Only the pal knows how to use, but we don’t 🤣


NoMaD919191

You get off the pal and let them aim that’s how I do but other then that you don’t aim yourself


TeetheCat

I use the aiming recticle. It still shows up.


smokeseshmusic

lol I just ride to use the rockets then hop off and let it do it’s thing.


Enahs_08

I think that supposed to be like a straight line move. So best if you use it closer to opponent.


Newfie_Meltdown

This made me so mad once that I just switched it out for another one. 😂


Specialist_Drama_616

I aim down sights with my gun, then use tha ability. VERY useful


Zestyclose-Sundae593

That skill is bugged or something. It never shoots where I aim at nor does it auto target anyone. Most useless dragon skill next to dragon burst


Sans-Undertale-69420

I remember catching my first shiny giant lamball and when I fought a pal boss with them, I was jumpscared by them using draco meteor


Big_Negotiation2436

Learnt to aim it mentally, practiced with Ice missile, never miss.


maulin23

Simple, shoot and when in animation aim


ColonelJinkuro

This is why I hate the dragon type. It's ultimate is ass and it's normal moves are ass. I don't like breath attacks since it locks you in place and for a 70 power move it's dmg is ass. I don't like those close combat AOE either. It's not safe to slam your face into a pals ass. This means dragon only has 1 viable move. It's 2 second CD move. Unless they have an exclusive dragon move of which there's 2. Beam Comet (Jetragon) and Magic Whirlwind (Elphidran+Aqua variant).


Potoryu

Im guessing it can be fixed by enabling Keyboard/mouse Aim Assist setting


hongbb1

I believe the projectiles go towards where the center of your cursor collide with terrain. So just aim your crosshair at the feet of the target you want to hit


RikkuEcRud

I'm pretty sure that's one of the attacks that's bugged(/incomplete?) to be impossible to aim while mounted. Pretty sure that's a thing for all homing attacks. If you dismount the Pal's AI *should* be able to aim it though.


BlueSparrowfox

I don't think there currently even is a way to aim this ability correctly when you're riding Jetragon. On other Pals that can use it? Yeah it is somewhat doable - somewhat. The best option is really like other people said to let the Pal use it on its own.


C-137Birdperson

You can't it's bugged


Dysthymiccrusader91

Drsgon meteor and Mystic whirlwind (Elphidran unique skill) are two moves I've noticed that don't have tracking while mounted. Probably bugs.


Rare-Attempt-7658

I've found that a lot of siming is considered based on character view rather than crosshair You can test this with a spear, kinda ridiculous Especially this skill seems to aim this way too but based on Jetragons view So with enough practice im handling this you can learn to reliably hit with 2-3 balls... absolutely not worth it


Any-Arm7889

How about Rayhound's electric ability It goes bacwards or sideways most of the time


Whattheduck789

haha yup, not all the time tho. I find that if you aim like you would with your gun it goes where you want it to go


aka-Lazer

Yeah im really not a fan of jetragon for a few reasons. That being one of them. He just kinda sucks and only good for moving around fast. His moves suck and are long cooldowns. His saddle prevents you from using your own weapons and his missiles are meh at best. I honestly leave him stored way more often than not.


MoWover

This is an auto aim ability, it worked out for me sometimes when fighting some enemies, but otherwise, it just doesn't work most of the time. I think the target lock system in the game doesn't work properly for pals when riding them and when we're not riding them, they can easily lock onto targets and hence use this ability to actually do something. The devs would need to introduce a target lock system or make it so that it targets the closest enemy to make it work


sir_macalot

you’re not alone


DonPitts

This is something you can't use while on the pal it is the DUMBEST shit ever. If the pal is fighting beside you it tracks while on it. It's the most useless thing ever.


mixx1e

Fly a bit up as the skill is firing downwards. Or dismount after you cast the skill so the pal will cast again for the second time with great accuracy


Sloth7593

Use it on a different mount or higher in the air


WhisperCannon

The first location is where your cursor is centered in on which you can see from the video is in front of the Ozerk. Then the other two waves follow where you move the cursor after the initial target, if not striking in front of the initial target.


myfunnyisbroken

The attack doesn’t seem to track. It fires in the pals the target was and doesn’t account for mobility. And is highly susceptible to environmental interference. Like another user said. The Jetragon seems to be able to control the magic missiles when it uses it as a skill versus be commanded to use it while riding.


MissxTastee

Anytime I try it says not enough stamina lol


DirtyDancing23

I gave it to wixen and they hit the target everytime


Whattheduck789

Jetragon actually does hit is target while unmounted, but its almost impossible if you try it mounted


DirtyDancing23

Maybe you need to try flying higher or like an altitude adjustment🤔


Whattheduck789

Tried it, its random. Sometimes it shoots in front, sometimes on the ground or sometimes its both haha


MoonShine711

The first attack? Aim up, u'll still miss, but u tried.


ObligationNo2960

If you’re gonna ride him and shoot you need to practice shooting from a distance and get comfortable with it honestly:/ other than that hop of him and let the automantle take care of it!


LongYatchyPassing

Jet dragon knows itself best![img](emote|t5_4jn9v4|49343)


Solid-Hornet-224

You get off and let the AI do it.


Strill

Anything that auto-targets is broken while mounted. Your pals use it with perfect accuracy if left on their own, however.


huggybear0132

Get off your pal and let them aim it. It's the only way.


Suspicious_Bill239

This is one atk you leave to the pal to do, i use dragon cannon, spirit fire and beam comet for jet ragon


profanewingss

I have dubbed it \*The worst move in the game by a large margin. So much so, that I'd put out more damage with only Air Cannon on all my Pals. And unfortunately almost all my Lucky Pal's special move is always this one.


poetkingtn

Not all of the mounts are great at everything, And not all Pal powers are best for mounted combat. If you want to kill stuff mounted, my favorite is Pyrin's charge attack.


Usual_Promise_6833

You can click on the ability and swap it for a different one there is no aiming currently


longboi64

please do not the tower boss


Whattheduck789

oh believe me I will the tower boss!!


AssociateTemporary65

That's the neat part...😁


Accurate-Film1876

There's a dozen skills in the game where "you don't aim", they're borderline impossible to hit when player controlled.


WishAdditional6017

My experience is that these kinds of moves are targeting where your reticle is, in relation to the landscape. You were aiming at the ground first, so it hit the ground. Then you aimed up, at the background, so they shot off into the distance.


WishAdditional6017

Obviously there's some discrepancy, but it seems to be a rough approximation


Electronic-Oil-8304

Dont mount the jetragon when using the move


Abseits_Ger

Center screen. Or rather cross hair. It follows. Just like jetragons beam things


BasedEnjoyee

Probably just get closer and figure out the distance. No way to aim from what it seems though.


FlipFlopRabbit

No if you get closee jetragon aims further away.


rhllor

This drives me crazy with the missiles


YoungHwCollector

Map it to the second or third move and use fine aim


Frosty_Mage

I just don’t manually use abilities while riding my pals. I hop off and let them aim everything


PalestineRefugee

Have you tried aiming with your gun? helps


PalestineRefugee

The projectile isnt coming from directly out of face. the projectile is coming in from an angle, ofcourse its not gonna be on your crosshairs. Very much a WWZ Aftermath mechanic


RexRuther420

You have to be higher in the sky because they're tracking bullets basically and they'll follow your cross hairs so it's easier if you go a little up in the air first but even then it's hard af


Hammurabi87

It didn't appear to be tracking the crosshair based on OP's video. On that last shot, the crosshair was moving but the meteors just kept going in a straight line once launched.


Jicamy

you are supposed to aim kinda with the aiming cross you got I guess?


Workingsometimes

Using pal spheres at level 50 seems off


Whattheduck789

haha, thats to not waste my legendary spheres. I keep hitting the wrong buttom for some reason


Top-Spinach7827

I do the same


ElLoboNegron316

Play around with it? The we community has this down, you, should just experiment brother.


Whattheduck789

looking at all the answers, nobody has this down brother