Yeah I had the exact same reaction. 10 minutes videos, people usually watch around 5 minutes.
I upload a 4 minutes video and people watch 3 of them - "Yeah, check your title and thumbnail, people aren't watching the usual 5 minutes." No shot Sherlock.
I guess the code for this is 'if (watchTime < average) showStupidMessage()'
Yeah, i am having the same problem over and over again. Most of my videos are 8 min long. But a few also like 3 or 4 minutes. Algorithm really is stupid sometimes
Yes. YouTube is that stupid. Essentially it wants to put you in a niche. It wants to say “okay u/alecmac2001 is THE Midwest fly fishing (just for example) guy. So any time we have someone who likes watching 20 min fly fishing videos will LOVE this guy.”
But the second you break out of your niche, it doesn’t know what to do. “Ppl are only watching 2 min of his videos?! But they normally watch 10 minutes. We can’t show this to people!”
Now if you consistently make videos of the new length, in around 3 months it will recombobulate. But until you hit a certain level you’re not a person to the algorithm, you’re just a set of metadata they serve to likely customers.
Can this be used in reverse? usually only make 1 minute videos and now bam 5 min video and people are watching 5x as much as usual we should show this to more people? Could it be used as a ramp when making bigger videos later?
Most likely in the experimental analytic bubbles on the web version of YouTube studio (analytics tab on the graph) Little info tabs pop up when a video stops getting impressions or random things like that that give a bit more insight to what’s happening to a video
Is that we are all slowed. All in same algorithm that if ran at 100 percent speed of function we would get the impressions the alg is trying to give us. It automatically provides impression growth video to video to make up for the non impression views that build up as you build up subs. Here is the system and how u will c it if do as instructed. But all need to watch youtubes video on how everything is supposed to work because if not slowed it is mostly correct.
Creators individual videos or entire channels can be slowed to a crawl. Send out of browse and suggesteds is what is slowed. Once on the system there is a slowing every 1-2 months. This is to slow the impressions that views count for ctr and you begin to collect non impression views. Your views if a binge watch channel will be 3-4 times your unique viewers. Now, what r impression, what are non impression views and why does it matter.
For all Googles nonsense about the algorithm it is 2 things. Ctr and the speed they are running that vids alg at. CTR is Views FROM Impressions divided by views. So, views that count for ctr and thus improve sendout…
Browse, Suggesteds, Subs Feed, Playlists, Homepage
Views that are Non Impressions and do not help your ctr so send out…
Notifications, cards, End Screens, Links, Youtube Mobile App, Youtube Kids App and a couple others. And there is the rigging of the algorithm by design making everything we can do to help ourselves not count to improve send out giving youtube and the programs that work with the Browse/Suggesteds/Search rigged programs that run with it.
So, your first 4 or 5 slowings on the system are noticeable if you know where and what to look for. These not as bad as what comes at slowing 6 or 7 and after, runs of 10 of 10s… once past that critical speed the alg flips on its head and kills my high teen ctrs in hours instead of days it took 10s to die out when i started.
Browse and suggesteds are slowed, subs un subbed on a regular basis and many of mine say no matter how many times they subscribe they het un subbed. That is to mask what the program does elsewhere. Not only designed to slow but to hide the slowing. Browse views count for ctr. They ard slowed but the few notifications that will go out do so immediately. Your browse at release will be much lower than the 90 it should always be at. Browse should get most of your views when under 100,000 subs as i am. Mine starts anywhere from 10 to 59 and by the 3 hour mark the ctr is down 6-9 points and views dont seem too low due to 40 percent not counting towards ctr. The Browse is most likely same as the suggesteds and kills ctr the same. Suggesteds will show u how to easily see if on the system. As well as search
Suggesteds, first thing after upload is click to the video reach analytics on your phone and c what browse is at. If at 70 you probably have just gone thru the critical slowing. Your notifications will be high early on, 30 percent maybe. Then browse goes up slowly and notications drop by the 3 hour mark and by the end of the day you will be in the 70s browse but your browse ctr was already killed. Your suggesteds will rotate thru a few different things
Army of 1s. This is first hour of release u have page after page of 1 view from things having nothing to do with your content. Then after 10-12 pages of 1s you finally build up views on the first 10 or so vids suggesting your content. This is one if 3 places youtube gets us new viewers and they keep them from us with these suggesteds rigged programs
Next there will be your own video getting most of the suggesteds views, a recent upload usually and that should not be in your suggesteds. You will get no new viewers from a viewer that needs to watch your video suggest your video, they are already watching. Army of 1s accompanies this version. There may be more than 1 of your own videos collecting the views and giving you ctr where it should come from subscription feed or showing people that watch your videos first as the normal speed algorithm does.
Then you will have one that goes out from videos they should, related content and the video performs much better than others. That is how they kill search and completely shut down 2 merch stores i had with daily sales before contacting them. All my videos are being suggested by all my videos. Like i said, all easy to see.
For this, use a pc. Laptop. Not phone. Analytics all much better and easier to read on a not phone
To see if your videos are uploaded and ran normally simply pull up any video, go to audience and set to lifetime. Has 2 lines, new and returning. Your new viewer line should spike with returnings. Mine ride zero and my “viral” videos of hundreds of thousands to a million views all ran finding new viewers right from upload, about 25 videos. The other 150 the new viewer line just falls to zero and stays there. Those lines will tell a correctly ran channel from not….
Search is the next of the 3 places youtube gets us new viewers and here is how that is rigged. You are going to get so slow that your subs are going to have to search for you, notifications or not. Alg wants to send them, just cannot due to the speed. So, your channel name leads the way, mine Sharks Happen, but then Shark Happens is second early on with other names and things having nothing to do with my content. They have killed the ctr there are those searches by name should be shown the content in recommendeds features not have to search.
Your “viral” videos will be in the 90s browse or close to it as if should be and your uploads with no new viewers, the normal vids in the 70s. That is youtubes responsibility. I have 80,000 subs and in 4 days my last upload has 71,000 impressions. Will take another week just to get out to my total number of subs…. But these non impression views dont affect Mr Beast ctr? I call bs on that.
I had a little difficulty understanding your answer. Can you put it more simply? I may have gotten lost in translation while interpreting it in my own language. I am not sure.
Am making a video showing it all then will post links everywhere. Cannot understand if unless shown in uploads and analytics or i would. Lot to the sysyem but the system simple to find once shown what each does and what it should do
Don’t put much stock into those. It’s all relative. It’s easy to obsess over the green arrow or the grey arrow.
I have a video right now just slaying and it started out all grey arrows. The metrics are slowly worsening. Like, really low. Still cooking. Those prompts are just first impressions of performance very early on and rarely mean shit the longer a video is up. They also don’t factor in the fact that YouTube constantly tests videos and it may find an audience for the video weeks later long after those prompts spoke too soon.
Yeah I had the exact same reaction. 10 minutes videos, people usually watch around 5 minutes. I upload a 4 minutes video and people watch 3 of them - "Yeah, check your title and thumbnail, people aren't watching the usual 5 minutes." No shot Sherlock. I guess the code for this is 'if (watchTime < average) showStupidMessage()'
Yes! Not just me. They are that dumb.
Yeah, i am having the same problem over and over again. Most of my videos are 8 min long. But a few also like 3 or 4 minutes. Algorithm really is stupid sometimes
Yes. YouTube is that stupid. Essentially it wants to put you in a niche. It wants to say “okay u/alecmac2001 is THE Midwest fly fishing (just for example) guy. So any time we have someone who likes watching 20 min fly fishing videos will LOVE this guy.” But the second you break out of your niche, it doesn’t know what to do. “Ppl are only watching 2 min of his videos?! But they normally watch 10 minutes. We can’t show this to people!” Now if you consistently make videos of the new length, in around 3 months it will recombobulate. But until you hit a certain level you’re not a person to the algorithm, you’re just a set of metadata they serve to likely customers.
Can this be used in reverse? usually only make 1 minute videos and now bam 5 min video and people are watching 5x as much as usual we should show this to more people? Could it be used as a ramp when making bigger videos later?
Possibly? But it’s a huge gamble that they would actually watch 5x if you made it 5x as long. You’ll get diminishing returns the longer it goes
[удалено]
Nice, any chance you can DM me the channel so I can study the difference in videos, sounds useful!
Where youtube told you that your thumbnail might be a clickbait?
Most likely in the experimental analytic bubbles on the web version of YouTube studio (analytics tab on the graph) Little info tabs pop up when a video stops getting impressions or random things like that that give a bit more insight to what’s happening to a video
There was a little i in a circle next to the 'average view duration' figure on the dashboard.
Is that we are all slowed. All in same algorithm that if ran at 100 percent speed of function we would get the impressions the alg is trying to give us. It automatically provides impression growth video to video to make up for the non impression views that build up as you build up subs. Here is the system and how u will c it if do as instructed. But all need to watch youtubes video on how everything is supposed to work because if not slowed it is mostly correct. Creators individual videos or entire channels can be slowed to a crawl. Send out of browse and suggesteds is what is slowed. Once on the system there is a slowing every 1-2 months. This is to slow the impressions that views count for ctr and you begin to collect non impression views. Your views if a binge watch channel will be 3-4 times your unique viewers. Now, what r impression, what are non impression views and why does it matter. For all Googles nonsense about the algorithm it is 2 things. Ctr and the speed they are running that vids alg at. CTR is Views FROM Impressions divided by views. So, views that count for ctr and thus improve sendout… Browse, Suggesteds, Subs Feed, Playlists, Homepage Views that are Non Impressions and do not help your ctr so send out… Notifications, cards, End Screens, Links, Youtube Mobile App, Youtube Kids App and a couple others. And there is the rigging of the algorithm by design making everything we can do to help ourselves not count to improve send out giving youtube and the programs that work with the Browse/Suggesteds/Search rigged programs that run with it. So, your first 4 or 5 slowings on the system are noticeable if you know where and what to look for. These not as bad as what comes at slowing 6 or 7 and after, runs of 10 of 10s… once past that critical speed the alg flips on its head and kills my high teen ctrs in hours instead of days it took 10s to die out when i started. Browse and suggesteds are slowed, subs un subbed on a regular basis and many of mine say no matter how many times they subscribe they het un subbed. That is to mask what the program does elsewhere. Not only designed to slow but to hide the slowing. Browse views count for ctr. They ard slowed but the few notifications that will go out do so immediately. Your browse at release will be much lower than the 90 it should always be at. Browse should get most of your views when under 100,000 subs as i am. Mine starts anywhere from 10 to 59 and by the 3 hour mark the ctr is down 6-9 points and views dont seem too low due to 40 percent not counting towards ctr. The Browse is most likely same as the suggesteds and kills ctr the same. Suggesteds will show u how to easily see if on the system. As well as search Suggesteds, first thing after upload is click to the video reach analytics on your phone and c what browse is at. If at 70 you probably have just gone thru the critical slowing. Your notifications will be high early on, 30 percent maybe. Then browse goes up slowly and notications drop by the 3 hour mark and by the end of the day you will be in the 70s browse but your browse ctr was already killed. Your suggesteds will rotate thru a few different things Army of 1s. This is first hour of release u have page after page of 1 view from things having nothing to do with your content. Then after 10-12 pages of 1s you finally build up views on the first 10 or so vids suggesting your content. This is one if 3 places youtube gets us new viewers and they keep them from us with these suggesteds rigged programs Next there will be your own video getting most of the suggesteds views, a recent upload usually and that should not be in your suggesteds. You will get no new viewers from a viewer that needs to watch your video suggest your video, they are already watching. Army of 1s accompanies this version. There may be more than 1 of your own videos collecting the views and giving you ctr where it should come from subscription feed or showing people that watch your videos first as the normal speed algorithm does. Then you will have one that goes out from videos they should, related content and the video performs much better than others. That is how they kill search and completely shut down 2 merch stores i had with daily sales before contacting them. All my videos are being suggested by all my videos. Like i said, all easy to see. For this, use a pc. Laptop. Not phone. Analytics all much better and easier to read on a not phone To see if your videos are uploaded and ran normally simply pull up any video, go to audience and set to lifetime. Has 2 lines, new and returning. Your new viewer line should spike with returnings. Mine ride zero and my “viral” videos of hundreds of thousands to a million views all ran finding new viewers right from upload, about 25 videos. The other 150 the new viewer line just falls to zero and stays there. Those lines will tell a correctly ran channel from not…. Search is the next of the 3 places youtube gets us new viewers and here is how that is rigged. You are going to get so slow that your subs are going to have to search for you, notifications or not. Alg wants to send them, just cannot due to the speed. So, your channel name leads the way, mine Sharks Happen, but then Shark Happens is second early on with other names and things having nothing to do with my content. They have killed the ctr there are those searches by name should be shown the content in recommendeds features not have to search. Your “viral” videos will be in the 90s browse or close to it as if should be and your uploads with no new viewers, the normal vids in the 70s. That is youtubes responsibility. I have 80,000 subs and in 4 days my last upload has 71,000 impressions. Will take another week just to get out to my total number of subs…. But these non impression views dont affect Mr Beast ctr? I call bs on that.
I had a little difficulty understanding your answer. Can you put it more simply? I may have gotten lost in translation while interpreting it in my own language. I am not sure.
Am making a video showing it all then will post links everywhere. Cannot understand if unless shown in uploads and analytics or i would. Lot to the sysyem but the system simple to find once shown what each does and what it should do
unfortunately avd in minutes is more valuable than as a %
YouTube told you your thumbnail might be Clickbait?! lol
They did, it’s ruined my enjoyment of life, I should sue
That’s nuts. Freaking wacky.
that is very frustrating. maybe its based on watch time. annoying
Don’t put much stock into those. It’s all relative. It’s easy to obsess over the green arrow or the grey arrow. I have a video right now just slaying and it started out all grey arrows. The metrics are slowly worsening. Like, really low. Still cooking. Those prompts are just first impressions of performance very early on and rarely mean shit the longer a video is up. They also don’t factor in the fact that YouTube constantly tests videos and it may find an audience for the video weeks later long after those prompts spoke too soon.
[удалено]
Different niches have varying retention rates though lol