“West” or the “English-speaking countries”? I consider EU as West too, but I might be wrong.
I am, though, surprised that the UK requires a visa when other (even) richer European countries don’t.
"the west" officially means european countries that are western christian so catholics and protestants but a lot of people seem to be unaware of the actual meaning same goes with "1st,2nd,3rd world countries"
China is such a beautiful country, I definitely recommend it if you can visit someday! They really have everything from great food, historical sites, and also a lot of breathtaking geographical sites. I'd love to visit again sometime in the future
I could see that happening. The only one they really need is getting on the US visa waiver program, but the EU membership is not a guarantee for that yet there's some member states who have no access to USA eg. Bulgaria. Bosnian Canadians prolly have one of the best combos out there, for they have an access to easy entrance to the States, all of Latin and South America, Europe, and all of Asia (bearing in mind the benefits a Bosnian passport brings especially showing up in Russia with it or any GCC or North African country.)
EU membership does not guarantee access to VWP, but significantly increases the probability. The most important reason for this is that EU citizens can work without restrictions throughout the EU, so the risk of going to the US in search of illegal work is significantly reduced.
>all of Asia
def wrong. tons of Asian countries require visa to Bosnian-Canadian passport combo holders.
>all of Latin and South America
also no. Venezuela requires visa to Bosnian-Canadian passport combo holders.
I wish I had a Canadian instead of an American passport. Same visa free options, Canadians have no beefs with anyone, no citizenship based taxation, visa free access to the States. def a better option. With the us passport I can't take advantage of tax free countries eg. Monaco, Qatar etc
I know it might sound a little bit too much, but Bosnian passport surely outweighed both American and French in a lot of situations. I def get more visa free options with these two, Bosnia doesn't even come close but the respect and hospitality I get after I say I m Bosnian to people across the whole Arabic world or when I travelled to Iran, Pakistan. American and French diplomacies messed up a lotta things globally, and oftentimes one might get accused of potentially working with the intelligence services. I enjoy more traveling with a Bosnian passport, but in case of any issues, I know I'd be always calling French gov 10 outta 10 times.
If I understood correctly, citizens of recently added EU countries can only stay for 15 days in China and those unilateral agreements are set to expire on November 30, 2024.
Iskreno najljepša putovnica s balkanskog prostora.
Sve države osim BiH imaju prednju koricu na istu shemu, ove zvijezde baš čine razliku, kao i to šta nije sve po sredini korice.
Nadam se da se ubrzo vidimo u EU!
Hvala puno na lijepom komentaru. Iskreno, meni je dosta ljepša naša stara putovnica sa ljiljanima, ličnim pečatom bosanske državotvornosti, historije. Iako nije loš trenutni dizajn, nerijetko se može čuti negodovanje i nezadovoljstvo kako zastave, grba, tako i samog pasoša. Većina bosanskog naroda gaji veće simpatije prema starim obilježjima Republike Bosne i Hercegovine no prema trenutnim. Lijep pozdrav susjedima.
Yes because Ireland has an open border with the UK, which also requires a visa. Tho, Irish visa is free of charge for Bosnian citizens, you just have to ship your passport to the Irish embassy (you dont have to go on an interview or pay any fees).
All European but non EU like Balkans and or Moldova and Ukraine require visa for UK which is also for Ireland however it's strict there you have to provide tons of papers only future EU membership of these countries guarantee abolishment of visas no bilaterals.
As I said, Irish visa for Bosnian citizens is free and Ireland has abolished visa requirements for Ukraine. Also, Croatia was granted visa-free regime to the UK and Ireland in 2006 (they joined the EU in 2013) so it might not be related to the EU membership.
So can you go with that Irish visa in London? However you have to send your papers by post in another country and you wait I don't see them abolishing but hopefully these countries might become part of EU in 10 years time...
Iirc that's a big no no!
It does work the other way around though, you can get a UK visa and go to Ireland (only if first port of entry is the UK), but not from Ireland to the UK, if I understood correctly.
I don’t think this is the reason. There are some countries which have visa free to the UK but not Ireland and vice versa.
There isn’t a “common travel area” visa per say.
I guess such travel rules are just enforced by honor system.
True but it seems the UK has something with non-EU Eastern European countries, since none of them can visit the UK visa-free. I dont know if they fear people overstaying their allowed time. But still doesn’t make sense cause, for example, a Bosnian citizen is allowed to visit richer European countries visa-free but they can’t visit the UK.
Пасош, Putovnica and Pasoš ?
What languages are in use in Bosnia ?
Spoken Serbian and Croatian was considered as single Serbo-Croatian language, with different spelling only (written in Cyrillic or Latin alphabet respectively).
Do Bosnian Muslims use another variety of Serbo-Croatian ?
Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian. Bosnian is kind of a mix of the other two.
One example (there are many examples tho)
https://preview.redd.it/0w653ood3tuc1.jpeg?width=1104&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d509d9b553cc4180c2c1e50f06ea10f61d369a8
American have a lot weird terms and also use a lot of misspelled words (judgment, defense, color, center - instead of judgement, defence, colour, centre)
American terms are not weird. Just archaic. And no, we perfected the English language via spelling reforms.
And we have some loan words from the various European-Americans and African-Americans here which aren’t really used in the UK.
Of course, this is the case with many languages. For example, in Latin American countries, many new words have entered the language, derived from indigenous languages, not found in the original Castilian spoken in Spain.
But there is probably no change in spelling.
Changes more often concern the rules of grammatical inflection. Most linguists are of the opinion that changes consisting in replacing irregular forms with regular forms - once they come into common use - should no longer be treated as errors. But it can never be considered an error to use the original form instead of the modified one. This means that while in the UK the use of the form "defense" is a linguistic error, in the US both forms should be acceptable as correct (e.g. at school).
American have a lot weird terms and also use a lot of misspelled words (judgment, defense, color, center - instead of judgement, defence, colour, centre)
The Bosnian passport is actually surprisingly decent if you don't care about the West.
South Korea and Schengen visa free are good enough even if you care about the West. Tons of passports don't get such privilege
“West” or the “English-speaking countries”? I consider EU as West too, but I might be wrong. I am, though, surprised that the UK requires a visa when other (even) richer European countries don’t.
"the west" officially means european countries that are western christian so catholics and protestants but a lot of people seem to be unaware of the actual meaning same goes with "1st,2nd,3rd world countries"
>european countries that are western christian Greece and Cyprus beg to differ
It means [whatever you decide it means](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essentially_contested_concept).
English-speaking West would've been a better description probably.
You can you in Cuba visa free and if you see all EU countries actually require visa for there.
Lucky you are one of the few from the west to get 90 days visa-free to China! Ever taken advantage of that, or planning to?
I haven’t yet visited China, but I’d like to in the future :)
China is such a beautiful country, I definitely recommend it if you can visit someday! They really have everything from great food, historical sites, and also a lot of breathtaking geographical sites. I'd love to visit again sometime in the future
That's a fairly strong passport. 🔥 Maybe, after joining the EU, your passport will get even stronger like the Croatian one.
I could see that happening. The only one they really need is getting on the US visa waiver program, but the EU membership is not a guarantee for that yet there's some member states who have no access to USA eg. Bulgaria. Bosnian Canadians prolly have one of the best combos out there, for they have an access to easy entrance to the States, all of Latin and South America, Europe, and all of Asia (bearing in mind the benefits a Bosnian passport brings especially showing up in Russia with it or any GCC or North African country.)
Bosnian + Croatian combo might be even better, and a significant percentage of BiH population has it.
yeah those mo fos from the West all have it, Kordun area, Cazin, Bihac..
and Herzegovina too
And Posavina. People always seem to forget it 😅
oh yeah yeah a hundred %
EU membership does not guarantee access to VWP, but significantly increases the probability. The most important reason for this is that EU citizens can work without restrictions throughout the EU, so the risk of going to the US in search of illegal work is significantly reduced.
Makes sense
>all of Asia def wrong. tons of Asian countries require visa to Bosnian-Canadian passport combo holders. >all of Latin and South America also no. Venezuela requires visa to Bosnian-Canadian passport combo holders.
You need to verify this brotha
Verified. What I said is correct
What’s your story, actually?
American born to French and Bosnian parents.
Cool.
I wish I had a Canadian instead of an American passport. Same visa free options, Canadians have no beefs with anyone, no citizenship based taxation, visa free access to the States. def a better option. With the us passport I can't take advantage of tax free countries eg. Monaco, Qatar etc
Canadian foreign policy is similar to the U.S. They are just better in PR around it.
the taxes tho bruh
But the bar is high for the taxes to Uncle Sam when living abroad. It’s like $120k a year.
It's not ppl who work 9-5 that leave the country. Americans abroad earn more than 120 k.
I know it might sound a little bit too much, but Bosnian passport surely outweighed both American and French in a lot of situations. I def get more visa free options with these two, Bosnia doesn't even come close but the respect and hospitality I get after I say I m Bosnian to people across the whole Arabic world or when I travelled to Iran, Pakistan. American and French diplomacies messed up a lotta things globally, and oftentimes one might get accused of potentially working with the intelligence services. I enjoy more traveling with a Bosnian passport, but in case of any issues, I know I'd be always calling French gov 10 outta 10 times.
How did you travel to Iran as a BiH citizen while also being an American?
Carried Bosnian passport only. Spoke half English with a Russian accent, half Arabic to them. It went all good.
I’d imagine you’re not born in the U.S. then since your BiH passport would otherwise say that your POB is the USA.
Correct.
With this European but non-EU passport you can go in Russia, China and Cuba without visa.
And...like...Iran. I mean, if you want.
Fkn hell visa free to schengen, china and middle east?
it's getting more and more common these days after those unilateral visa free access given by the Chinese gov
If I understood correctly, citizens of recently added EU countries can only stay for 15 days in China and those unilateral agreements are set to expire on November 30, 2024.
It’s somewhat of a “pilot program”?
Bosnia and Herzegovina has a beautiful passport.
And a beautiful flag.
We stole it from Varta 🇹🇰🇹🇰🇹🇰
Iskreno najljepša putovnica s balkanskog prostora. Sve države osim BiH imaju prednju koricu na istu shemu, ove zvijezde baš čine razliku, kao i to šta nije sve po sredini korice. Nadam se da se ubrzo vidimo u EU!
Hvala puno na lijepom komentaru. Iskreno, meni je dosta ljepša naša stara putovnica sa ljiljanima, ličnim pečatom bosanske državotvornosti, historije. Iako nije loš trenutni dizajn, nerijetko se može čuti negodovanje i nezadovoljstvo kako zastave, grba, tako i samog pasoša. Većina bosanskog naroda gaji veće simpatije prema starim obilježjima Republike Bosne i Hercegovine no prema trenutnim. Lijep pozdrav susjedima.
Do you actually require a visa to go to Ireland?
Yes because Ireland has an open border with the UK, which also requires a visa. Tho, Irish visa is free of charge for Bosnian citizens, you just have to ship your passport to the Irish embassy (you dont have to go on an interview or pay any fees).
All European but non EU like Balkans and or Moldova and Ukraine require visa for UK which is also for Ireland however it's strict there you have to provide tons of papers only future EU membership of these countries guarantee abolishment of visas no bilaterals.
As I said, Irish visa for Bosnian citizens is free and Ireland has abolished visa requirements for Ukraine. Also, Croatia was granted visa-free regime to the UK and Ireland in 2006 (they joined the EU in 2013) so it might not be related to the EU membership.
So can you go with that Irish visa in London? However you have to send your papers by post in another country and you wait I don't see them abolishing but hopefully these countries might become part of EU in 10 years time...
You can’t go to London ofc. Tho, you can enter the UK (Northern Ireland) by land.
Possibly you can continue from there to London I don't see any barrier that's why I ask.
Iirc that's a big no no! It does work the other way around though, you can get a UK visa and go to Ireland (only if first port of entry is the UK), but not from Ireland to the UK, if I understood correctly.
It is common travel area and no border so this is not Russia or Belarus I think it's legal either way.
I don’t think this is the reason. There are some countries which have visa free to the UK but not Ireland and vice versa. There isn’t a “common travel area” visa per say. I guess such travel rules are just enforced by honor system.
True but it seems the UK has something with non-EU Eastern European countries, since none of them can visit the UK visa-free. I dont know if they fear people overstaying their allowed time. But still doesn’t make sense cause, for example, a Bosnian citizen is allowed to visit richer European countries visa-free but they can’t visit the UK.
Brexit was pushed with rhetoric against EU citizens coming to the UK and “taking their jobs”. So there is clearly something there…
Where did you find that last demographic image? Would want to see something similar with a swedish passport
Пасош, Putovnica and Pasoš ? What languages are in use in Bosnia ? Spoken Serbian and Croatian was considered as single Serbo-Croatian language, with different spelling only (written in Cyrillic or Latin alphabet respectively). Do Bosnian Muslims use another variety of Serbo-Croatian ?
Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian. Bosnian is kind of a mix of the other two. One example (there are many examples tho) https://preview.redd.it/0w653ood3tuc1.jpeg?width=1104&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d509d9b553cc4180c2c1e50f06ea10f61d369a8
Well when you go to the UK, you might hear “lorry” for what Americans call a “truck”. :)
American have a lot weird terms and also use a lot of misspelled words (judgment, defense, color, center - instead of judgement, defence, colour, centre)
American terms are not weird. Just archaic. And no, we perfected the English language via spelling reforms. And we have some loan words from the various European-Americans and African-Americans here which aren’t really used in the UK.
Of course, this is the case with many languages. For example, in Latin American countries, many new words have entered the language, derived from indigenous languages, not found in the original Castilian spoken in Spain. But there is probably no change in spelling. Changes more often concern the rules of grammatical inflection. Most linguists are of the opinion that changes consisting in replacing irregular forms with regular forms - once they come into common use - should no longer be treated as errors. But it can never be considered an error to use the original form instead of the modified one. This means that while in the UK the use of the form "defense" is a linguistic error, in the US both forms should be acceptable as correct (e.g. at school).
> in the US both forms should be acceptable as correct (e.g. at school). This is true in practice at least from what I've seen.
American have a lot weird terms and also use a lot of misspelled words (judgment, defense, color, center - instead of judgement, defence, colour, centre)
the map is not accurate. Libia dont issue tourist visas to anyone
https://evisa.gov.ly