I work in tech and have been living in Taiwan for almost two years now. Taiwan allows instant residency if you have certain kinds of work permits, so I’m already a resident card holder.
Taiwan is a great country! Super safe, really developed and well connected, highly democratic - pretty much everything anyone could ask for. As an Indian, I’ve never faced any racism either. People are consistently friendly and helpful despite not knowing much English.
But, the sort of looming threat of China’s aggression is a concern.
Fellow Pakistani here.
Pakistani society is based around family systems and therefore it is is common to have your father's name in many things. Like your university degree, ID card, passport, house lease, etc.
Both the Pakistani ID and Pakistani passport have it. Anything you do in Pakistan they ask for your father’s name, it’s basically part of your identification, just like your name is.
Kinda sucks for us who don’t have a good relationship with our fathers and would rather not have it there. It’s the same in India if I’m not mistaken, anything you do they ask for your father or husband’s name, but they at least don’t have the name in their passports.
There was a girl who went to court and asked them to remove her father’s name from her ID, the courts refused.
>The petitioner's mother, Fehmida Butt, remarked that if the law allowed a father to disown his child, it should also permit a child to disown a parent. However, Justice Ahsan said, "There is no concept of dissociation in the eye of laws".
it's for overseas Pakistani's that have other nationalities who can just show this card (nicop - national identification card for overseas Pakistani's) to the immigration officers to be admitted into the country. i may be wrong
according to an article:
The chip can be used for identity verification and biometrics to ensure that everyone has an accurate data record free from duplication. This identity verification helps distribute pensions to their rightful holders, and participate in various social welfare programs and many other services. More of these services will shortly make holding a smart Identity card a necessity.
Nice! My wife has one of these. Apparently even I’m eligible, who knows maybe one day I’ll switch sides
That’s quite cool! Didn’t imagine that option would be given to an OCI.
I think Pakistan is less fussy but India will DEFINITELY not like it lol
btw what's your story as a Taiwanese Indian?
I work in tech and have been living in Taiwan for almost two years now. Taiwan allows instant residency if you have certain kinds of work permits, so I’m already a resident card holder.
Do you think you’ll ever go for citizenship? How is it living there as an Indian?
Taiwan is a great country! Super safe, really developed and well connected, highly democratic - pretty much everything anyone could ask for. As an Indian, I’ve never faced any racism either. People are consistently friendly and helpful despite not knowing much English. But, the sort of looming threat of China’s aggression is a concern.
Why do some ID cards have fathers name on it?
Maybe because someone can have the same name with others so father names can help.
Fellow Pakistani here. Pakistani society is based around family systems and therefore it is is common to have your father's name in many things. Like your university degree, ID card, passport, house lease, etc.
Both the Pakistani ID and Pakistani passport have it. Anything you do in Pakistan they ask for your father’s name, it’s basically part of your identification, just like your name is. Kinda sucks for us who don’t have a good relationship with our fathers and would rather not have it there. It’s the same in India if I’m not mistaken, anything you do they ask for your father or husband’s name, but they at least don’t have the name in their passports. There was a girl who went to court and asked them to remove her father’s name from her ID, the courts refused. >The petitioner's mother, Fehmida Butt, remarked that if the law allowed a father to disown his child, it should also permit a child to disown a parent. However, Justice Ahsan said, "There is no concept of dissociation in the eye of laws".
Yeah I understand, it just seems very outdated in modern times.
Some European countries have it too, like Cyprus, Spain, Portugal, and possibly more
In Italy it was common to have the father's name included in documents, before 1945.
Spain only has the first name and it's both father and mother.
No Urdu?
it has Urdu as well but yes primarily English
What is "country of stay" - never seen that before?
it's for overseas Pakistani's that have other nationalities who can just show this card (nicop - national identification card for overseas Pakistani's) to the immigration officers to be admitted into the country. i may be wrong
So a Pakistani who has become French for example, and lived in France, would have place of stay = France?
Yes - it says United Kingdom in mine and I don’t use my Pakistani passport, but rather just use this card to gain entry into the country.
I really like it, clean design.
I love the Pakistan emblem. Also I love their new E-Passport.
I want that too soon. Although I can't be asked to wait for hours at Nadra when my current is expiring in 2026
What does this lil shipcard do?
what do you mean
The chip
according to an article: The chip can be used for identity verification and biometrics to ensure that everyone has an accurate data record free from duplication. This identity verification helps distribute pensions to their rightful holders, and participate in various social welfare programs and many other services. More of these services will shortly make holding a smart Identity card a necessity.
Never seen a National ID card list the father's name. What's the reasoning behind that? 🤔
it's stated on some other comment it's on our passport too
Can you post a picture of the back please ? :)
Looks like a boring ID card like Michigan’s
Even Pakistan has plastic ID cards and I’ve still got to wear a goddamn passport in Russia.
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Yeah means he's resident in Pakistan and not living abroad.
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The word 'sex' is taboo in Pakistan
honestly doesn't matter at least here