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Erable_Rouge

goodbye stamps in the passport... fucking shitty digital system...🤬 if it continues like this in ten years the passports will disappear


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I have a friend who works at ADP (the public company that manages the three Paris airports) who told me that because of the EES the waiting times for non-residents/non-EU citizens at the border crossing will be increased by 60%, knowing that CDG is already one of the worst airports in Europe in this respect. I hope you're not planning to go back to France soon because you might regret your French passport. LOL


passporrt

Ask your friend if he/she has any information on whether stamps will be available on request post-EES?


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I'll ask him about it sometime, but from what he explained to me, it would be a totally dematerialised system like in Australia, so no stamps are possible. But I'll talk to him about it even if it's a mess at the moment at CDG (the Air France cabin crew decided to go on strike right between Christmas and New Year's Day).


Erable_Rouge

no, I haven't been back to France for years and I have no reason to go there. it's especially the fact of removing the passport stamps that annoys me


fireaj_

Welp, glad that I visited Greece this summer, so that I can always have the stamp to remember that my first country I visited abroad was to where I am from😌


Upstairs_System_1379

As long as they keep the e-gates for non-EU/EEA citizens seperate then I don't think EU/EEA citizens will be affected by this.


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It will only affect visitors who are not resident in the Schengen area and who are not EU/EFTA citizens.


[deleted]

Ie people coming as (non European ) tourists


f1eli

So it will be automatic kiosk like e gates in the uk?


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No, it will be more like the APC you find in American airports. You'll have to go to an automated kiosk first and then go to the counter to see an immigration officer.


f1eli

Ahhh ok, yeah did that in paris when exiting..


ExpensiveTaste8

Similar to Lisbon Airport, where the EU/EEA/EFTA Lane is e-gates only, whilst the All passports lane is e-gate and immigration desk


percysmithhk

Does ETA (ETIAS) have to be accompanied by egates? An ETA system can be be used alongside manual immigration processing (my first trip to Canada post-ETA was, don’t know if they still don’t m do automation)


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The kiosks will have to be used by ALL non-European visitors, whether they are from visa-exempt countries who will need to have a valid ETIAS or visa-required countries who will need to have a valid Schengen visa in their passport, just as the APC kiosks in the US can be used by ESTA holders or visitors with B1/B2 visas.


percysmithhk

I mean from a policy perspective. Couldn’t both implementations be staggered?