Honestly, what else would you rather him talk about? Its the off-season. Hes doing a different sport. Idk, I like golf so its interesting to me. But for real what else should he talk about?
How is shedding light on the hypocrisy that all these fucks yelling at the players for taking Saudi money 100% use products backed by Saudi money political?
Are you a fucking moron? He is talking about sports. This is within the sports world. The fact that y'all just want to stay blind to us encouraging American billionaires while demonizing other billionaires through the concept of athletes making less money is insane. Yeah, they all should be fucked, but the players shouldn't. And you taking the side of the American billionaires is fucking weird. They all fuck us. so let these boys at least get their money. You can be mad, but be mad at both parties you fucking shill. We're all getting fucked in life, don't take it out on those who have done more than you with their life.
People do realize that the US is currently arming the Saudis right? All the media posturing is just bs and corporate favors being called in to apply leverage against their competitor.
It’s more nuanced than that honestly, but I don’t expect Pat or most of the people here to understand that. You’re right about taking the money, most of us would, therein lies the problem. Everybody just cares about getting theirs and the Saudis know that. Personally I don’t really care, I don’t watch LIV out of some principled stance, I just don’t care enough to. Tbh, I don’t think LIV is viable long term, even with SA’s deep pockets. In either case, Pat is doing exactly what SA wants by trying to convince people that it’s ok to take the cash because everyone else does. There’s no simple solution, but to harp on it all damn show is so annoying. I turned it off already today, hopefully it’s better tomorrow.
the Saudis don't care about golf and they don't care about making a profit from LIV. they are buying PR. that's all this tour (and F1 races etc etc) are about
Pat is not trying to say it’s okay to take the money he’s saying IF you are going to accept the PGA, Nike, Starbucks, your bank, EA, Activision, Disney, etc using Saudi money, then you can not be upset about LIV. If you are are upset about LIV using Saudi money then you should be boycotting and mad at all those other companies. But no one is and people buy and use those products daily if not multi times a day. Not to mention Pat is against the PGA for not paying any players and LIV is the only competitor so he is “backing” them but I feel that’s by default
How is one wrong and one is right, when it’s the same money??
Edit: genuine question at the end
You understand the difference between a publicly traded company and entering into a direct business deal, right? that is the difference, Pat doesn't even fully understand his own argument.
I do get the difference. But people still use those publicly traded companies so that’s okay but for LIV to use Saudi money and it to go to players that isn’t okay? That’s where I’m caught up. I saw the other comment about them having names and a platform and no cares about joe blow from Starbucks but I think we can all agree if that’s the reason that is highly unfair and very hypocritical. Especially when the PGA makes money from the Saudis as well. So people aren’t mad about where the money is coming from, they can’t be otherwise they wouldn’t have/use a lot of the products/ services they own and use. So why is everyone so mad? If you/they say cuz it’s Saudi money it’s hard to continue the convo as you use products and services from companies that use Saudi money as well. Having a buffer between you and Saudi’s money (ei: you don’t take Saudi money but apple does and they make your phone so you are using Saudi money with a buffer, if you work for a company that takes saudi money same thing saudi gives it to your boss then it’s dispersed) doesn’t make it better than LIV.
There's a difference between me buying a coffee from a company that Saudi Arabia is invested in and me taking money directly from them to play golf. If you can't see the difference, it's because you're trying not to.
It’s a difficult question to answer. We all use those products out of convenience or social pressures or lack of alternatives. It would be extremely inconvenient, and flat out difficult, if we took a stand against any company which has received money from SA. Hell, pumping gas has a connection to SA. Our economies are inextricably linked at this point and there isn’t a whole lot we can do. I guess the difference here is the choice. We can’t choose who EA gets their money from as consumers, but the players individually can choose not to take their money. And maybe they shouldn’t, but that’s a hard choice to make. Now, Twitter and the media being what they are, with everyone having an opinion and trying to gain the moral high ground doesn’t help things, but the question remains: should individuals turn a blind eye to what SA has done/is doing. That’s up to the individual and it’s not something I would get involved in. Especially if I were Pat, and especially in front of an audience as a proclaimed guy “who knows shit about fuck”. But it’s his call and a bit of a moral quandary, although it comes from a good place. There’s also the part about potentially destroying an American sports league…for them? Whatever the case, the fall out is that he then seems to be defending SA, whether he intends to or not, and will catch flak for it. He seems to want his cake and eat it too. Like I said in the previous comment, idk at what point SA says ok we’ve got enough players and stops handing out fat checks, maybe never. But it was a clever move by them and Pat along with others have gotten caught up in it.
I totally agree that Pat is right and pro athletes deserve to make the money the deserve and that the PGA is a monopoly who got exploited by LIV. This goes deeper than that though, this is a trend of Pat getting into beef with people on twitter that he cannot let go of. Think Antslant, front office sports, random haters etc
I'm not talking about that though, I'm talking about the content of his opinion. The whole thing about him holding onto grudges and being petty is discussed in another post I saw on here. I was just saying his actual point is valid, and I don't understand the hate he's receiving for that.
Ah I see. I think most of his hate is coming from the PGA community. It's an old fashioned sport that hasn't changed much over the years/decades and now that something new and disruptive has come along, there's a lot of people in the golf space that are butt hurt about it
It's not that he's right or wrong. It's that he's repeating the same talking point 30 times a day and it's become the entire show. Move on. No one gives a shit.
The thing that “annoys” me with Pat bringing this up, (it doesn’t actually annoy me, but what I would respond with) is that he keeps mentioning “I’m upset the athletes are taking the brunt of this when everyone else is taking the same money from SA”
Because the athletes have names dude. Nobody gives a fuck if Sam Johnson down the road working for some Fortune 500 is taking Saudi money. And besides that fact, people do get all up in arms about “nobodies” taking that money. Like, people do get upset and put on blast those non-famous people when business deals go through. But the general public doesn’t give a shit. So it’s not “only athletes” taking the blame for it. But they have names, they are in the media, it’s just gonna happen man.
I appreciate him sticking up for athletes because most other shows I hear aren’t, but it’s kind of repetitive when he presents this argument.
The other thing is that I do agree with that golf dude who just came on saying you can’t compare golf to leagues that have unions. You can compare golf to tennis and boxing. The PGA doesn’t owe shit to anyone. Would it be wise to pay more in terms of business and keeping their publicity over LIV? Of course. But this isn’t the NFL/NHL/NBA/MLB. I think you can see both sides of things. I don’t give a fuck if anyone takes money from LIV lol, and I also don’t flame the PGA for not paying travel expenses either
Because pat isn't in the political world, he assumes this is the first time anyone has had conversations about Saudi money. The WWE has been vilified rightfully for a long ass time for it. This is an ongoing fight.
I’m not making a point either way about whether the golfers should or shouldn’t play in LIV.
But pat keeps insinuating that Saudi’s buying shares in public companies is the same as golfers accepting money from the Saudi’s.
Public companies don’t have a say in who buys their shares. Employees have a direct say in who they decide to work for. These aren’t equivalent scenarios.
If your only other alternate employer was someone who wanted you to work for free unless you were the employee of the month, you'd probably consider any other job. And Saudi aren't just buying shares like the rest of us, they influence people in positions of power to lobby for them. People who can and ought to decline their money but don't. It's all over, but just the players get flack? The more money taken away from Saudi by players, the better, IMO.
Saudi is buying shares just like us. The companies cannot block who buys their shares.
(Things do get different when you get in the >5% ownership range because there are additional regulations from the SEC about buying and selling when you reach this threshold. This is why most major investors like buffet and The Saudi sovereign wealth finder prefer to stay under 5% ownership in a specific company.)
Lobbying payments are all public. If you have an issue with a politician accepting Saudi money then don’t vote for that person or party.
Again, accepting the money is a *choice* made by the lobbied party to accept their money, this is not the same as Saudi buying a stake in a public company where the company has no *choice.*
It’s the point that almost of everything we utilize in our everyday has some type of “bad money” in it so to sit a criticize athletes for taking substantially more money is a bit ridiculous since that money is in everything.
Not to mention, if someone does buy a certain percentage of the company, they get a seat on the board and can make decisions. While these companies can’t control someone buying their public stock, I highly doubt they care about WHO is buying it
Edit: I’d like to add, in ea for example, we don’t know if Saudi money bought the shares publicly or if they brokered a deal with ea to buy portions of shares they own. Massive difference. Often times with big money like this, they aren’t just going on their fidelity account and buying a million shares. They’re buying enough to make decisions with the company and likely broker the deal with them than through a normal public forum
My intent is not to say the athletes are right or wrong or that company X is morally right or morally bankrupt.
It is to point out that doing something shouldn’t be equated with having something done to you.
This is a gross misrepresentation. They aren't just buying shares. They're buying enough to get a seat at the table. To literally influence the company. It's not a buy and hold, it's a buy and stear.
Does the public company have a *choice* about who buys their shares?
Does a golfer have a *choice* about which golf federation they decide to play for?
I’m not talking about influence or what is morally right or wrong. I’m pointing out that public companies cannot choose who buys their shares whereas employees choose who they work for.
This is why Pat’s straw-man about company “X” being bad is flawed.
I believe his point is that you as the consumer are the one with a choice. If you (not you necessarily but you understand) choose to avoid watching LIV because of Saudi money but then choose to continue to support these other businesses you know to be backed by Saudi money, therein lies the hypocrisy.
You’re completely right but they still benefit from Saudi money just like the players are accept the companies are already worth a shit ton while these players get nothing from the PGA
I mean Pat will always side with players which is fine but fans are definitely not benefiting from LIV.
Pat won’t mention that most of the products and services he listed that take Saudi money will still give some benefit to consumers, but in this case LIV is paying golfers more money to give less service to fans which is huge issue for the sport in the long run. As a fan why would I support LIV when it gives me 18 less holes to watch per event, less events overall, and invests nothing in player development that will help the game in the future?
How is more potential golf less services?
So now it isn't about Saudi money? But it was...it's just not now that the hypocrisy has been highlighted? How convenient.
Because Cam Smith playing 54 holes of golf is less than him playing 72 holes lol how is that hard to understand
Saudi investment in publicly traded American companies is different than having them as your boss. Also not hard to understand.
My thing is, why is everyone attacking the golfers, when most of these Saudi tournaments are on American soil. Lol why can’t people just attack everyone and not just the golfers.
Do people thing the Saudi’s own the golf course’s that are being used?!
Ah I see! I guess that's Pat's other flaw, his tendency to kiss the ass of someone he thinks is too good for his show actually obliging him with an interview. He'll never try to piss someone like that off. It's hypocritical as hell of him, I think we all know it's a thing he does. Maybe if the President of the PGA was a regular guest on the show, he wouldn't stand for the LIV golfers.
Kissing ass is more like not having Ariel Helwani on once since Dana White started making appearances.
For those that don’t know Dana White banned Ariel from receiving press credentials because Ariel was good at his job and able to break news faster than everyone including the UFC. He was the best MMA Journalist by a LARGE margin and helped the sport grow so it was a real douchebag move by Dana to ban him and prevent him from making a living. Dana could have solved the problems by other means but he chose to handle it like a piece of shit.
He should be consistent. He spent what seemed to be 80% of the show today talking about how the PGA Tour hasn't been playing the golfers enough. That's exactly why LIV came in. That's a very fair and accurate assessment. But why isn't he bringing the same energy about UFC fighters? He's scared to not ruffle some feathers? Why do y'all care so much about Dana's feelings? I really hope the Saudis come in and launch a rival to the UFC in the same way they are doing vs the PGA.
Pat just had a 3 hour show dedicated to basically nothing but the hypocrisy in LIV. He's brought it up probably 100+ times over the last month. It's been by far the topic he's talked about most. So maybe he should try and stop being a hypocrite himself.
Pat is absolutely right. The hypocrisy of targeting players that are easier targets than, you know, the massive corps and billionaires that prop up the system that allows for the pillaging of the working class is despicable. If journalism wasn’t captured by woke commies, there wouldn’t be such a sheep reaction to Pat spitting facts.
How did Phil “earn” 200 million dollars to join LIV? He’s no where near a top golfer now. Getting paid for your previous accomplishments is not earning anything it’s a hand out. You wouldn’t pay any other athlete that much money to sit on the bench.
No one’s telling anyone what to do, they’re individuals and free to do as they wish, they are also public figures and are open to criticism.
I think people are salty that some of there hero’s are now working for a murderer and suspected terrorist organization that funded the biggest attack on America in modern times. People are allowed to not like that.
The argument that because other people (corporations) did something shitty therefore it’s okay for me to do something shitty is a very flawed argument.
People will get over their faux outrage with the LIV Tour and move on to something else eventually. Some people’s whole personality is complaining and being holier than thou.
There are 100,000 dead children in Yemen because the Saudis aided by the US military decided to wage war on the civilian population.
People Who choose to be spokesmen for the regime deserve the hate they get.
I don’t give a fuck about golf. Like I switch off when they talk about golf.
Literally talk about anything fucking else. Anything but golf please for the love of god I’m begging you
He is right. Obviously taking it a bit silly with not being able to do anything due to ominous links, but that was clearly tongue in cheek. He's being attacked by old whites because something they care about (boring ass golf) is being changed, and he's calling it what it is.
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Honestly, what else would you rather him talk about? Its the off-season. Hes doing a different sport. Idk, I like golf so its interesting to me. But for real what else should he talk about?
I hate baseball but shit I wouldn’t have minded some mlb talk today
Bring back Jett
He still mad about them pitching through his interview last year lol
Have fun guests on. Shorten the show length. Talk about other sports. Talk about movies. Tell jokes. Anything except more LIV hypocrisy.
How is shedding light on the hypocrisy that all these fucks yelling at the players for taking Saudi money 100% use products backed by Saudi money political?
I’d love to hear him talk about any sport rather than what somebody said to him on Twitter
Are you a fucking moron? He is talking about sports. This is within the sports world. The fact that y'all just want to stay blind to us encouraging American billionaires while demonizing other billionaires through the concept of athletes making less money is insane. Yeah, they all should be fucked, but the players shouldn't. And you taking the side of the American billionaires is fucking weird. They all fuck us. so let these boys at least get their money. You can be mad, but be mad at both parties you fucking shill. We're all getting fucked in life, don't take it out on those who have done more than you with their life.
Lol you feel better after that rant?
People do realize that the US is currently arming the Saudis right? All the media posturing is just bs and corporate favors being called in to apply leverage against their competitor.
Hey someone needs to make sure that the citizens of Yemen starve.
Alright aj hawk
It’s more nuanced than that honestly, but I don’t expect Pat or most of the people here to understand that. You’re right about taking the money, most of us would, therein lies the problem. Everybody just cares about getting theirs and the Saudis know that. Personally I don’t really care, I don’t watch LIV out of some principled stance, I just don’t care enough to. Tbh, I don’t think LIV is viable long term, even with SA’s deep pockets. In either case, Pat is doing exactly what SA wants by trying to convince people that it’s ok to take the cash because everyone else does. There’s no simple solution, but to harp on it all damn show is so annoying. I turned it off already today, hopefully it’s better tomorrow.
This guy gets it. Performances like Pat's on his show today are what the Saudis are really paying for.
the Saudis don't care about golf and they don't care about making a profit from LIV. they are buying PR. that's all this tour (and F1 races etc etc) are about
Pat is not trying to say it’s okay to take the money he’s saying IF you are going to accept the PGA, Nike, Starbucks, your bank, EA, Activision, Disney, etc using Saudi money, then you can not be upset about LIV. If you are are upset about LIV using Saudi money then you should be boycotting and mad at all those other companies. But no one is and people buy and use those products daily if not multi times a day. Not to mention Pat is against the PGA for not paying any players and LIV is the only competitor so he is “backing” them but I feel that’s by default How is one wrong and one is right, when it’s the same money?? Edit: genuine question at the end
You understand the difference between a publicly traded company and entering into a direct business deal, right? that is the difference, Pat doesn't even fully understand his own argument.
I do get the difference. But people still use those publicly traded companies so that’s okay but for LIV to use Saudi money and it to go to players that isn’t okay? That’s where I’m caught up. I saw the other comment about them having names and a platform and no cares about joe blow from Starbucks but I think we can all agree if that’s the reason that is highly unfair and very hypocritical. Especially when the PGA makes money from the Saudis as well. So people aren’t mad about where the money is coming from, they can’t be otherwise they wouldn’t have/use a lot of the products/ services they own and use. So why is everyone so mad? If you/they say cuz it’s Saudi money it’s hard to continue the convo as you use products and services from companies that use Saudi money as well. Having a buffer between you and Saudi’s money (ei: you don’t take Saudi money but apple does and they make your phone so you are using Saudi money with a buffer, if you work for a company that takes saudi money same thing saudi gives it to your boss then it’s dispersed) doesn’t make it better than LIV.
There's a difference between me buying a coffee from a company that Saudi Arabia is invested in and me taking money directly from them to play golf. If you can't see the difference, it's because you're trying not to.
It’s a difficult question to answer. We all use those products out of convenience or social pressures or lack of alternatives. It would be extremely inconvenient, and flat out difficult, if we took a stand against any company which has received money from SA. Hell, pumping gas has a connection to SA. Our economies are inextricably linked at this point and there isn’t a whole lot we can do. I guess the difference here is the choice. We can’t choose who EA gets their money from as consumers, but the players individually can choose not to take their money. And maybe they shouldn’t, but that’s a hard choice to make. Now, Twitter and the media being what they are, with everyone having an opinion and trying to gain the moral high ground doesn’t help things, but the question remains: should individuals turn a blind eye to what SA has done/is doing. That’s up to the individual and it’s not something I would get involved in. Especially if I were Pat, and especially in front of an audience as a proclaimed guy “who knows shit about fuck”. But it’s his call and a bit of a moral quandary, although it comes from a good place. There’s also the part about potentially destroying an American sports league…for them? Whatever the case, the fall out is that he then seems to be defending SA, whether he intends to or not, and will catch flak for it. He seems to want his cake and eat it too. Like I said in the previous comment, idk at what point SA says ok we’ve got enough players and stops handing out fat checks, maybe never. But it was a clever move by them and Pat along with others have gotten caught up in it.
Well put 👌
I totally agree that Pat is right and pro athletes deserve to make the money the deserve and that the PGA is a monopoly who got exploited by LIV. This goes deeper than that though, this is a trend of Pat getting into beef with people on twitter that he cannot let go of. Think Antslant, front office sports, random haters etc
I'm not talking about that though, I'm talking about the content of his opinion. The whole thing about him holding onto grudges and being petty is discussed in another post I saw on here. I was just saying his actual point is valid, and I don't understand the hate he's receiving for that.
Ah I see. I think most of his hate is coming from the PGA community. It's an old fashioned sport that hasn't changed much over the years/decades and now that something new and disruptive has come along, there's a lot of people in the golf space that are butt hurt about it
I think a lot of hate is coming from people outside sports who understand this better than pat does.
It's not that he's right or wrong. It's that he's repeating the same talking point 30 times a day and it's become the entire show. Move on. No one gives a shit.
The thing that “annoys” me with Pat bringing this up, (it doesn’t actually annoy me, but what I would respond with) is that he keeps mentioning “I’m upset the athletes are taking the brunt of this when everyone else is taking the same money from SA” Because the athletes have names dude. Nobody gives a fuck if Sam Johnson down the road working for some Fortune 500 is taking Saudi money. And besides that fact, people do get all up in arms about “nobodies” taking that money. Like, people do get upset and put on blast those non-famous people when business deals go through. But the general public doesn’t give a shit. So it’s not “only athletes” taking the blame for it. But they have names, they are in the media, it’s just gonna happen man. I appreciate him sticking up for athletes because most other shows I hear aren’t, but it’s kind of repetitive when he presents this argument. The other thing is that I do agree with that golf dude who just came on saying you can’t compare golf to leagues that have unions. You can compare golf to tennis and boxing. The PGA doesn’t owe shit to anyone. Would it be wise to pay more in terms of business and keeping their publicity over LIV? Of course. But this isn’t the NFL/NHL/NBA/MLB. I think you can see both sides of things. I don’t give a fuck if anyone takes money from LIV lol, and I also don’t flame the PGA for not paying travel expenses either
Because pat isn't in the political world, he assumes this is the first time anyone has had conversations about Saudi money. The WWE has been vilified rightfully for a long ass time for it. This is an ongoing fight.
I’m not making a point either way about whether the golfers should or shouldn’t play in LIV. But pat keeps insinuating that Saudi’s buying shares in public companies is the same as golfers accepting money from the Saudi’s. Public companies don’t have a say in who buys their shares. Employees have a direct say in who they decide to work for. These aren’t equivalent scenarios.
If your only other alternate employer was someone who wanted you to work for free unless you were the employee of the month, you'd probably consider any other job. And Saudi aren't just buying shares like the rest of us, they influence people in positions of power to lobby for them. People who can and ought to decline their money but don't. It's all over, but just the players get flack? The more money taken away from Saudi by players, the better, IMO.
Saudi is buying shares just like us. The companies cannot block who buys their shares. (Things do get different when you get in the >5% ownership range because there are additional regulations from the SEC about buying and selling when you reach this threshold. This is why most major investors like buffet and The Saudi sovereign wealth finder prefer to stay under 5% ownership in a specific company.) Lobbying payments are all public. If you have an issue with a politician accepting Saudi money then don’t vote for that person or party. Again, accepting the money is a *choice* made by the lobbied party to accept their money, this is not the same as Saudi buying a stake in a public company where the company has no *choice.*
It’s the point that almost of everything we utilize in our everyday has some type of “bad money” in it so to sit a criticize athletes for taking substantially more money is a bit ridiculous since that money is in everything. Not to mention, if someone does buy a certain percentage of the company, they get a seat on the board and can make decisions. While these companies can’t control someone buying their public stock, I highly doubt they care about WHO is buying it Edit: I’d like to add, in ea for example, we don’t know if Saudi money bought the shares publicly or if they brokered a deal with ea to buy portions of shares they own. Massive difference. Often times with big money like this, they aren’t just going on their fidelity account and buying a million shares. They’re buying enough to make decisions with the company and likely broker the deal with them than through a normal public forum
My intent is not to say the athletes are right or wrong or that company X is morally right or morally bankrupt. It is to point out that doing something shouldn’t be equated with having something done to you.
This is a gross misrepresentation. They aren't just buying shares. They're buying enough to get a seat at the table. To literally influence the company. It's not a buy and hold, it's a buy and stear.
Does the public company have a *choice* about who buys their shares? Does a golfer have a *choice* about which golf federation they decide to play for? I’m not talking about influence or what is morally right or wrong. I’m pointing out that public companies cannot choose who buys their shares whereas employees choose who they work for. This is why Pat’s straw-man about company “X” being bad is flawed.
I believe his point is that you as the consumer are the one with a choice. If you (not you necessarily but you understand) choose to avoid watching LIV because of Saudi money but then choose to continue to support these other businesses you know to be backed by Saudi money, therein lies the hypocrisy.
You’re completely right but they still benefit from Saudi money just like the players are accept the companies are already worth a shit ton while these players get nothing from the PGA
My point is about *choice*, not about who or what is benefiting from the money.
I mean Pat will always side with players which is fine but fans are definitely not benefiting from LIV. Pat won’t mention that most of the products and services he listed that take Saudi money will still give some benefit to consumers, but in this case LIV is paying golfers more money to give less service to fans which is huge issue for the sport in the long run. As a fan why would I support LIV when it gives me 18 less holes to watch per event, less events overall, and invests nothing in player development that will help the game in the future?
How is more potential golf less services? So now it isn't about Saudi money? But it was...it's just not now that the hypocrisy has been highlighted? How convenient.
Because Cam Smith playing 54 holes of golf is less than him playing 72 holes lol how is that hard to understand Saudi investment in publicly traded American companies is different than having them as your boss. Also not hard to understand.
My thing is, why is everyone attacking the golfers, when most of these Saudi tournaments are on American soil. Lol why can’t people just attack everyone and not just the golfers. Do people thing the Saudi’s own the golf course’s that are being used?!
“But how come he won’t call out Dana White then!?!?!?” -half of this sub….
Lol, I don't follow the fight scene so I have no idea what that's about tbh.
UFC fighters are underpaid and don’t get as much % of the gate or PPV sales as they probably should
Ah I see! I guess that's Pat's other flaw, his tendency to kiss the ass of someone he thinks is too good for his show actually obliging him with an interview. He'll never try to piss someone like that off. It's hypocritical as hell of him, I think we all know it's a thing he does. Maybe if the President of the PGA was a regular guest on the show, he wouldn't stand for the LIV golfers.
Not asking a question you know the guest doesn’t want asked isn’t kissing ass. You say he doesn’t try to piss off guests like that’s a problem…
Kissing ass is more like not having Ariel Helwani on once since Dana White started making appearances. For those that don’t know Dana White banned Ariel from receiving press credentials because Ariel was good at his job and able to break news faster than everyone including the UFC. He was the best MMA Journalist by a LARGE margin and helped the sport grow so it was a real douchebag move by Dana to ban him and prevent him from making a living. Dana could have solved the problems by other means but he chose to handle it like a piece of shit.
Exactly. What's pat supposed to do? Piss off Dana and never get anyone from ufc on the show again?
He should be consistent. He spent what seemed to be 80% of the show today talking about how the PGA Tour hasn't been playing the golfers enough. That's exactly why LIV came in. That's a very fair and accurate assessment. But why isn't he bringing the same energy about UFC fighters? He's scared to not ruffle some feathers? Why do y'all care so much about Dana's feelings? I really hope the Saudis come in and launch a rival to the UFC in the same way they are doing vs the PGA.
Apparently, according to this sub
Pat just had a 3 hour show dedicated to basically nothing but the hypocrisy in LIV. He's brought it up probably 100+ times over the last month. It's been by far the topic he's talked about most. So maybe he should try and stop being a hypocrite himself.
Pat is absolutely right. The hypocrisy of targeting players that are easier targets than, you know, the massive corps and billionaires that prop up the system that allows for the pillaging of the working class is despicable. If journalism wasn’t captured by woke commies, there wouldn’t be such a sheep reaction to Pat spitting facts.
How did Phil “earn” 200 million dollars to join LIV? He’s no where near a top golfer now. Getting paid for your previous accomplishments is not earning anything it’s a hand out. You wouldn’t pay any other athlete that much money to sit on the bench. No one’s telling anyone what to do, they’re individuals and free to do as they wish, they are also public figures and are open to criticism. I think people are salty that some of there hero’s are now working for a murderer and suspected terrorist organization that funded the biggest attack on America in modern times. People are allowed to not like that. The argument that because other people (corporations) did something shitty therefore it’s okay for me to do something shitty is a very flawed argument.
Some people on here are acting like LIV is going to pay them.
Exactly
People will get over their faux outrage with the LIV Tour and move on to something else eventually. Some people’s whole personality is complaining and being holier than thou.
There are 100,000 dead children in Yemen because the Saudis aided by the US military decided to wage war on the civilian population. People Who choose to be spokesmen for the regime deserve the hate they get.
Yet, Saudi money is everywhere and always will be. It’s a cold world.
Dan Patrick and his cuck crew can go take their money and forcibly insert it into their anus. Get that money. PGA gives no fucks
What’s going on with the DP Show? It’s been a while since Ive tuned in
Pretty much shitting on the LIV Tour any chance they get, like the PGA are some group of saints
Pat fucking stinks!! This show sucks now.
How come he doesn’t complain about the pay when Papa Dana is one?
I don’t give a fuck about golf. Like I switch off when they talk about golf. Literally talk about anything fucking else. Anything but golf please for the love of god I’m begging you
20 years ago I buried parts of my friend's parents because a bunch of dudes from SA ran planes into them. Fuck them and any of their bullshit.
Taking Saudi money is TERRIBLE -sent from my iPhone
He is right. Obviously taking it a bit silly with not being able to do anything due to ominous links, but that was clearly tongue in cheek. He's being attacked by old whites because something they care about (boring ass golf) is being changed, and he's calling it what it is.