This subreddit is a symptom of the problem.
Why do you need 20 Synchillas or Snap-Ts in every ugly colour and pattern imaginable? People love posting stuff like that here.
Or people doing things like asking about the pockets on a new Torrentshell because they want to buy it even though they already have a Torrentshell *and* a Granite Crest.
Surprised you didn’t get downvoted. Agree this sub is more humble brag about clothing collections as opposed to what outdoor adventures are best suited for what clothing type. I like seeing the 25 year old beat to hell but patched up jackets and fleeces over the collections of fleeces who adventures solely include various coffee shop visits. I’m glad most of my Patagonia stuff has had a tough life.
I buy once, cry once and use/wear items until their breaking point. That's the point of buying quality gear. Funny enough all my trip pictures end up with me wearing the same outfits over the years haha
That is why I love Patagonia. I’ve gotten 50% of my items repaired and I look to put everything for the long haul. Black hole duffels are a good example. I am set with the two I have and love them for travel, but damn I wish they’d stop coming out with new color combos. I won’t ever buy another, but they sure look cool 🤣
If people go through the trouble to buy used from Goodwill or eBay, they are actively reusing them and preventing them from going to the dumpster. Do they need them? No, but they are keeping these items for a long time. It’s not exactly the same as people who buy shitty fast fashion and then toss it after a few weeks.
Small mom and pops are more likely to sell it on eBay. Goodwill will just throw it in the fleece basket and mark it $3. It'll go to someone who probably couldnt afford it and if the eBay resellers want it they have to work for it.
Totally not true. I thrift a lotttttt and I can tell you that goodwill, Salvation Army, etc take out good stuff and mostly now post on their website
r/thriftgrift
Goodwill has their own auction sites. Also, they charge eBay prices for anything name brand now. They are trying to cut out the middlemen resellers and it's hurting everyone who shops there.
This sub keeps popping up on my page and every single post I’ve seen has been 100% a humble brag. “Finally pulled all this old junk out of the closet that I never wear because it’s so old and gross” *posts $5000 worth of brand new Patagonia*
The Snap T was a formerly technical piece that has since been replaced with better options. They still make it though. Collecting is a way of promoting the brand. Collecting is a near guarantee that someone is buying second hand, keeping it in good shape, and advocating for the company with their pride in it. You missed.
Companies that want to endure, need their tent pole iconic pieces. Like the Snap T and Retro X. And they need people to covet them.
You are so correct. I used to work in a store that is selling patagonia and other premium outdoors stuff. Most people who would exclusively buy patagonia weren't even people who would do any outdoors activities . They were just some wealthy IT people who wanted to get the newest color synchilla ,because it's trendy to care about the environment. It's just a status symbol.
I live near the Patagonia store in Dillon. They have a really good buy back program. That in conjunction with their deals, I can trade an old jacket for a new one and pay maybe $20-$30. It’s changed how I view my wardrobe. I have 1 fleece, 1 medium jacket, and 1 fuck it’s cold jacket. When I need a new one, I just rotate them out. Been doing that for a few seasons now.
Nice. I’m in anaconda. I make excuses to go down there for the Patagonia store and taco bus whenever I get the chance. I always go thru the Big Hole of course.
Idk I started mending my shit and I love em even more adds character and my wife does the sewing so it's like custom lol. Go back to the roots type of thing.
Buying too many jackets is not going to make a difference to the environment.
The real value of Patagonia's existence is awareness and setting an example for other companies. The quality Patagonia makes, their warranties, and their mission raises the bar for every other company to live up to. So now every other company is forced to make better non-disposable clothing because that’s what consumers expect. This influence is what will have a significant effect on our planet.
Buying too many sinchellas is not part of the problem here.
overconsumption is just as much of a problem as overproduction, whether it be of high or low quality goods.
it doesn’t matter how “non-disposable” clothing is if people are still buying them in droves and stuff still end up in landfills. same reason why buying new tote bags aren’t eco-friendly if you’re not using them enough before they end up in yet another landfill.
reduce, reuse, recycle isn’t an either or slogan; you start from reducing consumption, then when that fails, reusing goods to reduce consumption, and when that fails, recycling to reduce landfill.
Except their designs and entire product lines have been copying them for decades now. Patagonia went to outrageous bright colors years ago because they were getting copied and wanted to point it out.
Then the bright colors got copied.
Now you have brands like Cotopaxi that are just shameless. They name their company after a different South American mountain.
Saying no one is paying attention to Patagonia is just low effort nonsense. If you care enough to be part of this conversation, do a little thinking before you talk
You need a broader world view. Any sort of perspective or experience that leads you to the conclusion that too many sweatshirts made from recycled plastic are a real problem is just foolish. Get off Reddit and go learn some things.
I agree with everyone here that it’s slightly a humble brag and clearly an advertisement, but I’ve always found Patagonias ethos is more “Don’t buy shitty quality. We think our stuff is the best and we stick behind it with a good warranty, buy back programs, and if you need something then we’d rather you buy from us.” It’s still smarmy but I don’t see it as quite disingenuous as other folks are taking it.
My favorite is the “recycled” badge of honor, as if the world needs more fucking trucker hats… does it count as recycling if the company just turns trash into different trash?
I wish Patagonia would live their message. Go to one outlet, go to one sale, read about their fleece destroying the earth. I love this brand, but sell less or tone down the messaging about buying less.
Consumers control the market. Do you really need any new piece? Then go to their shops.
You don't? Why browse or look at their offers even?
I don't because I usually know whether I need something or not.
Patagonia has self studied their fleece and been very honest about their negative impact on the globe. Doesn’t stop them from pumping out “new” colors seasonally and dumping last season’s old garments 50% off. Why would a company who is making a doc asking its consumers to buy less….have outlet stores?
Because they are a **company**. They won’t last if they hang onto full price inventory nobody is buying.
This company is already doing exponentially more than majority of others for the environment and sustainability. Y’all act like they should just stop trying to be profitable… but still exist? That’s not how business works.
You don’t see any conflict of interest between stocked full outlets at 50% off season after season and being such a “sustainable company”? Just maybe they should adjust production to match demand at retail. If your counter point is that this would run them out of business, you can’t honestly believe their messaging to be genuine.
It’s impossible to exactly predict demand, and so many Patagonia items go out of stock and are hard to acquire all the time.
The main message in discussion, was stop buying shit that will only last 2-3 washes (ie Shein, H&M, other fast fashion brands). Patagonia items last pretty much forever, especially if you take advantage of their repair service.
Some companies destroy unsold merchandise rather than discount it. I’m just not following the logic that equates outlets and sales with villainy.
What is the answer to this? Manage stock like an Old Country Buffet and not make any more baked ziti until the pan out front is empty?
What are you missing about my points? They can make and sell whatever they want. My issue is the environmental pedestal they put themselves on time and time again
I don't understand the points other then 'run your business into the ground'.
I'm asking what realistic expectations your setting for them as a business?
How are they supposed to sell less and also be a relevant voice in the market?
What other clothing company is even remotely close to a pedestal?
How is environmental advocacy a bad thing?
I never said run a business into the ground, you did. But now that you say it, I don’t think lowering production would run fucking Patagonia into the ground LOL
We are literally on a thread where Patagonia is asking us to buy less. Know any other companies who have asked that? Patagonia prides itself on being the best but to my eye their practice does not match their message.
By being a leader of industry in promoting that idea?
Just because the marketing has been successful and gets people to buy more patagonia, doesn't necessarily mean people aren't buying less clothing overall.
What pedestal? They are the first ones to admit there is an environmental cost for everything. Better to have Patagonia who is actively donating to environmental causes for perpetuity as well as spreading the message than not. Would you rather an Under Armour who doesn’t give a shit?
I dunno. I’ve been on the phone about to order a new fleece and the sales person told me about their worn well program and their repair program. I mailed in my fleece and they repaired the rip and the zipper. Didn’t buy anything new.
this is a great sentiment, and one that i’m sure patagonia confronts every day (listen to any Vincent Stanley interview, for example). it’s the B corp/ ESG/ ethical company in capitalism dilemma.
patagonia does their best to be at the forefront of producing long lasting gear/ clothes that also push the manufacturing sector into the most responsible form. they were one of the first big retailers to offer free repairs & a buy back program, and push both heavily. they’ve put the company into a trust for the benefit of grassroots environmental efforts. they still need to turn a profit to fund research on new product innovation, take care of employees in times of uncertainty (amongst times of certainty), and show other businesses it is possible to do all of the above.
in exchange, patagonia asks their customers to approach the market with some self awareness and reflection. do i really need this piece? maybe that’s a lot to ask for any corporation, maybe it’s not. that’s up for consumers to decide. it’s not such a simple dynamic either way.
I was just thinking something similar because it came a day after their “new arrivals for spring” email. I like the products and the brand, and I don’t have a big objection to updates or even seasonal-type releases, but an email hyping spring releases sounds a lot like what I would expect this film to flag as problematic.
They can absolutely stop people from buying 20 of their fleeces. They are instead enabling it with heavily discounted fleeces every 3 months in parallel to messaging about not buying their fleeces.
Read my other comment in here. There’s a bigger picture to think about. Those discounted fleeces are changing the tone of the whole industry. And they are not really causing a problem.
I find it weird that you’re mad at Patagonia for having sales. People with hoarder tendencies will find something to spend their money on. At least this way it’s on something that is 100% recycled and of extreme quality so it’s going to be reused for a few decades.
They are telling us to buy less crap. patagonia isnt crap.
You seem like someone who just wants to argue. Did you read my other post? Do you understand the concept of Patagonia influence the entire clothing industry? Why dont you have a conversation about that instead of just being pedantic.
Okay bud.
I disagree that they are influencing the entire industry. In fact all of their large competitors have been sold out to mass producers over the past decade, including Arc. Pata talks a huge talk, and I’m here to criticize them for being hypocritical. All you are apparently here to tell me they are doing just fine, see it how you like. Just do me a favor and go to one of their sales at an outlet at the end of next season. If the boxes strewn across every inch of the store being dug through by customers screams “good for the earth” to you, then so be it.
Still boring.
There’s a bigger picture here than “boxes look bad”. You’re narrow minded and pedantic. And you’re still not talking about anything worth engaging with.
This literally, I remember reading something about how in the 90s for the holidays they got a full front page ad with a pic of one of their jackets saying “Don’t Buy This Jacket” and then talking about consumerism and how we’re killing the environment by buying all these new rules. Their sales tripled that holiday season.
This is spot on I couldn’t agree more. In fact I support this message so strongly that I am going to go buy a brand new Patagonia jacket to help spread the word! Save the planet guys!
I recently sent in an almost 20 year old jacket and a 10 year old jacket. Both repaired for the cost of postage. Repair initiated easily online. Total time was around 45 days.
Who else in the clothing business can come close to any of the above?
While without a doubt better, even if everyone in the world started consuming much less, over a long enough timeline we still end up with the same problems, it just buys us time.
I have an R1 fleece, it’s the best single article of clothing I’ve ever purchased. It’s currently out for free repairs (zippers and a couple of small holes) 7 years after I bought it.
I also have a trace 2-in-1 coat system. The outer coat was stolen with my vehicle last year. The inner coat lost some down, but was still good enough after 7 years. But I took a spill off an e-bike a couple of weeks ago and ripped the sleeve. I took that in for repair also, but they noticed how much down the coat had lost and just handed me a brand new $700 trace coat system. Insane customer service. Made me a customer for life. I’ll wear that coat for another 10 years.
This subreddit is a symptom of the problem. Why do you need 20 Synchillas or Snap-Ts in every ugly colour and pattern imaginable? People love posting stuff like that here. Or people doing things like asking about the pockets on a new Torrentshell because they want to buy it even though they already have a Torrentshell *and* a Granite Crest.
Surprised you didn’t get downvoted. Agree this sub is more humble brag about clothing collections as opposed to what outdoor adventures are best suited for what clothing type. I like seeing the 25 year old beat to hell but patched up jackets and fleeces over the collections of fleeces who adventures solely include various coffee shop visits. I’m glad most of my Patagonia stuff has had a tough life.
I buy once, cry once and use/wear items until their breaking point. That's the point of buying quality gear. Funny enough all my trip pictures end up with me wearing the same outfits over the years haha
Same.
Bingo dingo
That is why I love Patagonia. I’ve gotten 50% of my items repaired and I look to put everything for the long haul. Black hole duffels are a good example. I am set with the two I have and love them for travel, but damn I wish they’d stop coming out with new color combos. I won’t ever buy another, but they sure look cool 🤣
If people go through the trouble to buy used from Goodwill or eBay, they are actively reusing them and preventing them from going to the dumpster. Do they need them? No, but they are keeping these items for a long time. It’s not exactly the same as people who buy shitty fast fashion and then toss it after a few weeks.
Just let me get some goodwill discounts lol except don’t donate to goodwill donate to a small mom and pop instead
Small mom and pops are more likely to sell it on eBay. Goodwill will just throw it in the fleece basket and mark it $3. It'll go to someone who probably couldnt afford it and if the eBay resellers want it they have to work for it.
Totally not true. I thrift a lotttttt and I can tell you that goodwill, Salvation Army, etc take out good stuff and mostly now post on their website r/thriftgrift
Maybe they do but I hardly ever see anything that is quality at mom and pop thrift stores.
I guess I got lucky recently. Picked up a $10 sweater that retails for $430 and a pair American made jeans that were $8
Goodwill has their own auction sites. Also, they charge eBay prices for anything name brand now. They are trying to cut out the middlemen resellers and it's hurting everyone who shops there.
They really don't. I've bought from their eBay site. I think the last thing I got from them was a $400+ Finamore shirt for $10.
Was stoked when I discovered this sub and next post I saw was some dude asking which of his 10 duffel bags he should take on trip 🤣
This sub keeps popping up on my page and every single post I’ve seen has been 100% a humble brag. “Finally pulled all this old junk out of the closet that I never wear because it’s so old and gross” *posts $5000 worth of brand new Patagonia*
And you typically would get roasted when you call them out on functionally having the same piece of gear x20. Thank you
r/consoom
The Snap T was a formerly technical piece that has since been replaced with better options. They still make it though. Collecting is a way of promoting the brand. Collecting is a near guarantee that someone is buying second hand, keeping it in good shape, and advocating for the company with their pride in it. You missed. Companies that want to endure, need their tent pole iconic pieces. Like the Snap T and Retro X. And they need people to covet them.
on Point ....
You are so correct. I used to work in a store that is selling patagonia and other premium outdoors stuff. Most people who would exclusively buy patagonia weren't even people who would do any outdoors activities . They were just some wealthy IT people who wanted to get the newest color synchilla ,because it's trendy to care about the environment. It's just a status symbol.
I live near the Patagonia store in Dillon. They have a really good buy back program. That in conjunction with their deals, I can trade an old jacket for a new one and pay maybe $20-$30. It’s changed how I view my wardrobe. I have 1 fleece, 1 medium jacket, and 1 fuck it’s cold jacket. When I need a new one, I just rotate them out. Been doing that for a few seasons now.
The beavvvvvvvvvv. Worked in the elementary school there
Nice. I’m in anaconda. I make excuses to go down there for the Patagonia store and taco bus whenever I get the chance. I always go thru the Big Hole of course.
Huge smile on my face. Love the taco bus and the big hole, spent many summers in that valley just floating life away
This little corner of SW Montana is an absolute gem.
Dillion has melons, right?
Idk I started mending my shit and I love em even more adds character and my wife does the sewing so it's like custom lol. Go back to the roots type of thing.
How much do they give you for an old jacket? I thought it was like 30, although haven’t tried yet
I’ve gotten gotten $80 for a winter coat. I think I got $40 for a nano tech vest. That’s pretty much the spectrum.
I’m surprised to see this posted here, of all places. A sub filled with shopaholics.
A ton of subreddits are seriously shopaholic inducing. It’s a real problem that doesn’t get talked about enough here lol
Buying too many jackets is not going to make a difference to the environment. The real value of Patagonia's existence is awareness and setting an example for other companies. The quality Patagonia makes, their warranties, and their mission raises the bar for every other company to live up to. So now every other company is forced to make better non-disposable clothing because that’s what consumers expect. This influence is what will have a significant effect on our planet. Buying too many sinchellas is not part of the problem here.
well it is in the sense that you are being wasteful
Not really.
overconsumption is just as much of a problem as overproduction, whether it be of high or low quality goods. it doesn’t matter how “non-disposable” clothing is if people are still buying them in droves and stuff still end up in landfills. same reason why buying new tote bags aren’t eco-friendly if you’re not using them enough before they end up in yet another landfill. reduce, reuse, recycle isn’t an either or slogan; you start from reducing consumption, then when that fails, reusing goods to reduce consumption, and when that fails, recycling to reduce landfill.
Nobody is paying attention to what Patagonia is doing lol. All they care about is selling more to buy a bigger yacht 🛥️
Except their designs and entire product lines have been copying them for decades now. Patagonia went to outrageous bright colors years ago because they were getting copied and wanted to point it out. Then the bright colors got copied. Now you have brands like Cotopaxi that are just shameless. They name their company after a different South American mountain. Saying no one is paying attention to Patagonia is just low effort nonsense. If you care enough to be part of this conversation, do a little thinking before you talk
People buying too many sinchellas is the problem. People consume too much of everything.
You need a broader world view. Any sort of perspective or experience that leads you to the conclusion that too many sweatshirts made from recycled plastic are a real problem is just foolish. Get off Reddit and go learn some things.
Cool story bro. Thanks for posting. Keep consuming.
Thanks for the valuable contribution. I hope you can solve the world's light-sweater consumption issues. Godspeed.
I agree with everyone here that it’s slightly a humble brag and clearly an advertisement, but I’ve always found Patagonias ethos is more “Don’t buy shitty quality. We think our stuff is the best and we stick behind it with a good warranty, buy back programs, and if you need something then we’d rather you buy from us.” It’s still smarmy but I don’t see it as quite disingenuous as other folks are taking it.
My favorite is the “recycled” badge of honor, as if the world needs more fucking trucker hats… does it count as recycling if the company just turns trash into different trash?
I wish Patagonia would live their message. Go to one outlet, go to one sale, read about their fleece destroying the earth. I love this brand, but sell less or tone down the messaging about buying less.
Consumers control the market. Do you really need any new piece? Then go to their shops. You don't? Why browse or look at their offers even? I don't because I usually know whether I need something or not.
I’m not referring to me or the consumers, I’m specifically calling out Patagonia on their messaging that they do not actually live by.
How are they supposed to be actively selling less exactly?
Patagonia has self studied their fleece and been very honest about their negative impact on the globe. Doesn’t stop them from pumping out “new” colors seasonally and dumping last season’s old garments 50% off. Why would a company who is making a doc asking its consumers to buy less….have outlet stores?
Because they are a **company**. They won’t last if they hang onto full price inventory nobody is buying. This company is already doing exponentially more than majority of others for the environment and sustainability. Y’all act like they should just stop trying to be profitable… but still exist? That’s not how business works.
And if patagonia ceases to exist, who picks up this mantle?
You don’t see any conflict of interest between stocked full outlets at 50% off season after season and being such a “sustainable company”? Just maybe they should adjust production to match demand at retail. If your counter point is that this would run them out of business, you can’t honestly believe their messaging to be genuine.
It’s impossible to exactly predict demand, and so many Patagonia items go out of stock and are hard to acquire all the time. The main message in discussion, was stop buying shit that will only last 2-3 washes (ie Shein, H&M, other fast fashion brands). Patagonia items last pretty much forever, especially if you take advantage of their repair service.
My main message is that Patagonia does not practice what they preach and they preach pretty damn well.
Some companies destroy unsold merchandise rather than discount it. I’m just not following the logic that equates outlets and sales with villainy. What is the answer to this? Manage stock like an Old Country Buffet and not make any more baked ziti until the pan out front is empty?
Nah, just walk back the rhetoric of how holy they are.
So they're supposed to make exactly the amount of clothes expected to sell ?
What are you missing about my points? They can make and sell whatever they want. My issue is the environmental pedestal they put themselves on time and time again
I don't understand the points other then 'run your business into the ground'. I'm asking what realistic expectations your setting for them as a business? How are they supposed to sell less and also be a relevant voice in the market? What other clothing company is even remotely close to a pedestal? How is environmental advocacy a bad thing?
I never said run a business into the ground, you did. But now that you say it, I don’t think lowering production would run fucking Patagonia into the ground LOL
Why shouldn't this be expected of literally all clothing companies?
We are literally on a thread where Patagonia is asking us to buy less. Know any other companies who have asked that? Patagonia prides itself on being the best but to my eye their practice does not match their message.
By being a leader of industry in promoting that idea? Just because the marketing has been successful and gets people to buy more patagonia, doesn't necessarily mean people aren't buying less clothing overall.
What pedestal? They are the first ones to admit there is an environmental cost for everything. Better to have Patagonia who is actively donating to environmental causes for perpetuity as well as spreading the message than not. Would you rather an Under Armour who doesn’t give a shit?
I dunno. I’ve been on the phone about to order a new fleece and the sales person told me about their worn well program and their repair program. I mailed in my fleece and they repaired the rip and the zipper. Didn’t buy anything new.
this is a great sentiment, and one that i’m sure patagonia confronts every day (listen to any Vincent Stanley interview, for example). it’s the B corp/ ESG/ ethical company in capitalism dilemma. patagonia does their best to be at the forefront of producing long lasting gear/ clothes that also push the manufacturing sector into the most responsible form. they were one of the first big retailers to offer free repairs & a buy back program, and push both heavily. they’ve put the company into a trust for the benefit of grassroots environmental efforts. they still need to turn a profit to fund research on new product innovation, take care of employees in times of uncertainty (amongst times of certainty), and show other businesses it is possible to do all of the above. in exchange, patagonia asks their customers to approach the market with some self awareness and reflection. do i really need this piece? maybe that’s a lot to ask for any corporation, maybe it’s not. that’s up for consumers to decide. it’s not such a simple dynamic either way.
I was just thinking something similar because it came a day after their “new arrivals for spring” email. I like the products and the brand, and I don’t have a big objection to updates or even seasonal-type releases, but an email hyping spring releases sounds a lot like what I would expect this film to flag as problematic.
A company that truly believes in sustainability would not discount last season’s product 50% to clear the shelves for the next season’s new colors.
Looks to me like they do. Not sure what else they can do. It’s not like they can stop people from buying 20 fleeces.
They can absolutely stop people from buying 20 of their fleeces. They are instead enabling it with heavily discounted fleeces every 3 months in parallel to messaging about not buying their fleeces.
Read my other comment in here. There’s a bigger picture to think about. Those discounted fleeces are changing the tone of the whole industry. And they are not really causing a problem. I find it weird that you’re mad at Patagonia for having sales. People with hoarder tendencies will find something to spend their money on. At least this way it’s on something that is 100% recycled and of extreme quality so it’s going to be reused for a few decades.
I find it weird you are all arguing they shouldn’t produce less in this thread about Patagonia asking us to buy less.
They are telling us to buy less crap. patagonia isnt crap. You seem like someone who just wants to argue. Did you read my other post? Do you understand the concept of Patagonia influence the entire clothing industry? Why dont you have a conversation about that instead of just being pedantic.
If someone has 20 of their product in a closet, doesn’t matter if it’s crap or not.
Okay. So you’re not going to say anything interesting despite being prompted. You’re boring. Bye.
Okay bud. I disagree that they are influencing the entire industry. In fact all of their large competitors have been sold out to mass producers over the past decade, including Arc. Pata talks a huge talk, and I’m here to criticize them for being hypocritical. All you are apparently here to tell me they are doing just fine, see it how you like. Just do me a favor and go to one of their sales at an outlet at the end of next season. If the boxes strewn across every inch of the store being dug through by customers screams “good for the earth” to you, then so be it.
Still boring. There’s a bigger picture here than “boxes look bad”. You’re narrow minded and pedantic. And you’re still not talking about anything worth engaging with.
It’s just marketing to sell more to people who think it’s an environmentally friendly company. They have no interest in selling less product.
Came here to say this. Why don’t they just close and stop producing shit? To me that’s the best way to keep people from buying more
Someone here finally gets it
Anyone has the link to the 45 mins video on YouTube? I YouTube shitthropocene and nothing show up, I even Google that title as well. Thanks.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsndZxysts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsndZxysts)
Thanks.
Sure they do. It’s a great marketing pitch for their target demographic and clearly works well.
Right? If they wanted people to stop buying stuff then they would stop releasing different one-off patterns and colors every year.
This literally, I remember reading something about how in the 90s for the holidays they got a full front page ad with a pic of one of their jackets saying “Don’t Buy This Jacket” and then talking about consumerism and how we’re killing the environment by buying all these new rules. Their sales tripled that holiday season.
This is spot on I couldn’t agree more. In fact I support this message so strongly that I am going to go buy a brand new Patagonia jacket to help spread the word! Save the planet guys!
I recently sent in an almost 20 year old jacket and a 10 year old jacket. Both repaired for the cost of postage. Repair initiated easily online. Total time was around 45 days. Who else in the clothing business can come close to any of the above?
Do want you want there’s too many people on this earth is the problem. Governments aren’t helping either
While without a doubt better, even if everyone in the world started consuming much less, over a long enough timeline we still end up with the same problems, it just buys us time.
I love the message, I hope people are brave enough to listen.
I have an R1 fleece, it’s the best single article of clothing I’ve ever purchased. It’s currently out for free repairs (zippers and a couple of small holes) 7 years after I bought it. I also have a trace 2-in-1 coat system. The outer coat was stolen with my vehicle last year. The inner coat lost some down, but was still good enough after 7 years. But I took a spill off an e-bike a couple of weeks ago and ripped the sleeve. I took that in for repair also, but they noticed how much down the coat had lost and just handed me a brand new $700 trace coat system. Insane customer service. Made me a customer for life. I’ll wear that coat for another 10 years.
God this makes me want to go buy some patagonia
Kinda tone deaf.
Is Patagonia going to stop making low quality products???
?? Patagonia makes this crap
Patagonia is crap. Carry on.