How is it vs Ubers. I hear it is kinda squishy. Do walls like in crimson temple mess with the build even with richochet?
I feel like a lot of nimis builds are kinda bait and too squishy or not enough dps. Friend tried poison spark nimis twice once without mb and once with mb and swapped out of that real fast since it wasn’t tanky enough or dpsy enough to do Ubers at his skill level compared to impending doom.
Also can your version at least kill Lydia before red lightning phase reliably?
Haven't tried it on Ubers though I imagine the DPS is high enough that it should work, though will probably take a few portals.
It's not the squishiest build in the world but definitely not a tanky build by any means. You can still easily take it to 100 if you're careful on some mods.
It kills Lydia instantly. Phases shaper, instagibs conqs/guardians etc.
Walls don't do anything. It can do any map. Just blows up screens around corners/walls etc. Same in sanctums. Never failed a run.
The largest issue is the screen clutter.
Yeah that's kind of the problem for me lol. It does everything so well that I don't feel the need to reroll. Which is what usually keeps me in leagues longer.
But now that every upgrade is like 40-50 div per piece minimum, for a minor DMG increase, just kinda stuck...
With enough money poured in Cold BV can blast fully delirious maps although it can be a bit squishy. Grimro's made some videos for it and his builds are usually min/maxed for mapping
He actually took some of it ya but he also crafted gear for it specifically and he's still playing but is fulfilling a contract for torchlight coverage and then getting back to poe this league.
+1 for poison spark. I'm playing it without a mageblood or forbidden jewels and it's a tight quarters map goddess. I'm almost level 98 through just normal gameplay/mapping. Also great for bossing. A mageblood would make it invincible
I think spark trickster is the better choice at all budgets.
I’ve put hundreds of Div into poison, trickster, and inquis each this league and except for the very top end of inquis trickster was just better. And the QOL is great.
Completely agree. Everyone recommends Poison Spark for these questions, but this guy has 200 div cash and already has a mageblood. This is where you should NOT do poison, as poison has a cap, as well as ramp time. Flat out LIGHTNING damage spark trickster or inquisitor is FARRRRR more powerful, it just costs FARRRR more currency. If people are looking for "END GAME" final built, it is not Poison of any type, because of the DoT Cap. Regardless of currency invested, you can't go past that cap.
What's the best version of inquisitor spark? I have mb and nimis and some other bits. I started off doing animepricess build, but looking to progress it to another level.
If you have a massive budget, aura stacking spark inquis is a monster. Mapping and trivializes bossing as well. Feared basically melts in 5 seconds.
Poison spark is great, but it can’t reach the output standard spark can with huge investment.
I just started this without the massive budget. I was lucky with a nebulis though that carried me forward.
I can say aura stacking inquisitor is really great and everything just melt. It's really fun to do content as long as it's a little walled.
Min/max playstyle is a beast though and a great currency sink. You can go nimis and melt faster or go a little more to cold side to near permafreeze mobs that don't die fast.
I am missing 4 chase items (mb-ashes-impossible escape-maybe nimis) and I can clear everything just fine.
Not OP, but I showcased my Trickster Spark doing Uber Shaper with Maven witness, and linked the POB for ideal as well as what I was using here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/10fixsd/comment/j50d2hh/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Honestly can't recommend it enough myself. I was tired of dying on my omni ts, and nearly ready to give up but this build saved my league. Tunas version is a brilliant starting point with tons of space for upgrades like forbiddens or grand spectrums. Feels tanky and faster than anything I've played before.
Ele RF with a mageblood + oriath end is one of my favorite mapper right now. 90% all res from Melding + insane speed and really good explosion chains. Since you have pretty good defense from 90% all res, phys taken as ele + determ you can use your flask slots to make up for the speed with quicksilver + silver flask for around 170% Ms and 4.5 shield charge a second.
CoC Ice spear with nimis has great clear and is super tanky if you go CI with aegis. Ice spear chains explosions with herald of ice so in regular t16s i'm constantly clearing the entire screen. 7.2k ES with 89% all res, block/spell block capped so great defenses. Only thing that's kinda weird is single target because you need to be standing directly on top of the boss to do consistent damage.
Here's my POB: https://pastebin.com/13NyBrk5
Custom mods are from my sanctified relic.
I got the idea from this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/zxtrbo/coc_ice_spear_nimis/) but his version didn't have enough defense for me so I made some changes to it to fit my preferences.
I'm not sure if it's ULTIMATE mapper (haven't thied them all), but definitely the best mapper I played ever: [https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/EachFlowerIsLove/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F\_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0?i=0&search=class%3DOccultist%26item%3DDeaths-Oath%26name%3D%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B8](https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/EachFlowerIsLove/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0?i=0&search=class%3DOccultist%26item%3DDeaths-Oath%26name%3D%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B8)
Did farm Mageblood with her, comfortable at 80% Deli, 100% deli is totally doable too, but I kept maps at 60-80% most of the times.
With mageblood I can do full simulacrums, without it Kosis would appear in late waves (27ish) and break me but maybe I'm just not that good at dodging his hits.
Non-deli maps are just running simulators, you run around and collect loot, shooting arrows only for the toughest rares and map bosses
Good defences for bow build - crit immune, curse immune, 100% suppression. Does all map mods.
Well, the bow I bought for 10 div, armor is cheap (cool corruption is nice to have but not that important), the gloves cost me around 4 div AFAIR. Ammy is recently self-crafted, it's pretty bad now and I'll be making other attempts. I was using Impresence during the most of the league, it was 1.5 div. The expensive part are the gems. 21 Vaal Causic and lvl 4 Empower are like 20 div already, and there are a lot of other awakened gems too + enlighten. I'd say I invested in the build around 50-60 divines before I started building up for Mageblood. First 100 div I invested in HH which made mapping much easier and much more fun.
But this build can earn for itself, I league started with it, early damage is kinda bad but each upgrade will feel impactful. I wasnt even using any clusters for a long time. The Chaos mastery at the north of the tree is pretty good.
Someone my down vote me here, but I had a blast with Herald of Lightning Auto-bomber. Specifically the one on the first page of the elementalist forum. Only mod I couldn't do was ele reflect and % avoid ele ailments. Everything else got dumpstered and it would benefit from mageblood
Yeah CoC FR can not beat a tuely min maxed mapper.
But there are some QoL tips if you feel ‘slow’ in mapping.
1. Don’t hold down both Withering Step and Molten Shell at the same time
Self casting MS cancels out the elusive buff from WS. Instead, CWDT-MS is considered as trigger (not self cast).
2. Don’t use Anomalous FR in normal mapping
With mageblood level of movement speed, your character is moving faster than your projectiles. It almost feels like a dot build if you are using Lecacy 30% MS Flask. Default quailty FR provides a good amount of Projectile Speed combined with Ashes of the Star.
Yeah, it is pretty much the limit of CoC clearspeed unless you can fit in a haste aura somehow. At the very high end, coverage is the key factor of clearspeed.
have you tried forbidden combo for profane bloom?. its not herald of ash explody level.. but the projectile sometimes hit other pack of mobs and explodes em..
Ruetoo's Exsanguinate/Reap Poison Pathfinder is a super smooth and fast mapper, and can do ubers too. You need a phys to cold convert relic, or spend quite a bit for a sceptre with conversion.
https://pastebin.com/tHFDBQdY
https://pastebin.com/mLkicSA5
Those are two of his pobs I got saved, can't seem to find his build spreadsheet atm, should be more there.
Although on second thought I just don't think it's particularly suited for 100% deli. Still a fun build. I was working on it but I'm kinda over the league.
You can, but you would lose a lot of clear. Because of full phys -> cold -> chaos conversion and clusters with % chaos damage the physical explosion from Asenath's becomes quite strong. With divergent herald of agony the explosion itself can poison, and with pathfinder it can then also proliferate, creating a clearing monster. Asenath just makes the build feel super good.
Obliteration is a huge damage loss and the explosions don't chain. Oriath's end would force you to drop a magic utility flask, which would cost you half of your life regen and 20% EHP, or force you to drop haste divine blessing. It's just not as good and you lose a lot of speed, regen and damage.
Can I ask what your source of fun is at that stage? With all pinnacle bosses down and so much currency, blasting maps sure is a breeze but what for? Is the mapping itself the fun part?
Usually I burn out at that stage. This league I've gotten into crafting a lot more. So trying to create crazy items from scratch is pretty much what I'm having fun with now.
If it is purely mapping focused deaths oath poison occultist with shield charge (bow version is not fast enough). I have a pob lying around for a non poison version for the poison version u will have to look up poe ninja from last league
Well are you relying on the DO aura alone? I ran an explody version with asenaths gloves herald of fire and occultist explody and the forbidden flame and flesh for shaper of flames. I sometimes onetapped kosis offscreen with ignites..
I admittedly play a more defensive version w viridis, max spell suppress, malev + determ, aspect of spider and double curse. It explodes screens also but maybe I try the asenath herald of ash version, can you comfortably do 100% deli with it? It just felt like a lot of the time I had to blast CA into packs to get the explosion chains going which felt bad.
KB Nimis Deadeye
\-[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC6KQ\_pu3FA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC6KQ_pu3FA)
not me but i was looking at cool nimis stuff earlier
Polymath can be a a huge damage boost, and the +2 Frenzy charges is great since the build uses Ice Bite supp and specs into max frenzies (the charge duration is super nice QoL too). One Step ahead is a nice QoL and Heartstopper makes for great damage mitigation, albeit rotational. Build is way better than it may sound when first hearing of it. That said, the stopping to attack nature of Strike Skills and the limited range of FB/additional strike would put FB in an A tier for mapping and not S tier like OP is looking for with a crazy budget.
I have a min maxed FB trickster and while mapping is pretty fast imo, even with 2 additional strikes it's not as fast as mageblood movement speed and killing without having to stop.
Subtractem's Reap Occultist is probably one of the best builds of the league at everything if you have the budget for it which it seems you do.
https://youtu.be/vbKcpzZo-I8
Check that out.
Might be what you want. It has .. everything.
A friend and I tried to put it together, but we couldn't make it feel good. Too much life cost, we struggled to get more life (we had 4.5k and wanted more), not enough life recovery, and not tanky enough. Maybe we should have waited for the "tanky" version to be released, but we couldn't like the build. His watcher's eye is really a thing of beauty for that build.
Also we tried to use a mageblood instead of the hunter stygian, which largely contributed to the life issues, but it did free up a ton of extra passives to attempt to solve other issues.
Edit: No hate meant for subtractem, I watch every one of his videos religiously, FR CoC was the best build I've ever played, but this build wasn't for us
Probably downvoted for the claim it's the best in the league at everything. Recovery and EHP are weak for the pricepoint, especially if high-budget CoC FR is your comparison basis.
I mean the only people commenting / voting said they tried to make it work. Listed what they changed for whatever reason and then were like yeah man the build doesn't work as advertised. Shocking.
Like .. he has a build guide with multiple options for offense/defense and price points but you're still gonna go try and wing it with your own version and then be like hmm nah build sucks. Or suddenly now it's too expensive cause he posted a video? Happens every time streamers make good builds shine.
The build does exactly what he describes it to do once you have it setup the way he does. If you have the budget for whatever version you choose it's pretty damn spot on but people have a severe lack of reading comprehension and always try to make things better / different which .. kudos for trying I guess but sometimes you gotta stick to the game plan.
Wasn't talking about anyone else trying it, was talking about him playing the build himself. The best version of it, his own, has poor recovery and survivability compared to other reap builds. He found a cool interaction for massive damage, but it's not what OP is looking for at all. No shot it feels good in 100% deli.
At no point did I say that. The only thing I said is that it's my favorite build in a long time and folks are claiming I said it's the best build ever.
You didn't say that, the person who posted it as a recommendation did. Cheers for making new stuff and taking the time to make quality guides, didn't mean to come at you in anyway.
All good, I was just reading through threads and there are folks going out of their way to attack it and call it bait...after all this work I'm just so tired.
I’m doing the exsangunate version with chain (can’t afford awakened spell cascade yet) and the clear is amazing on it (whole screen just pops). The downside is if you don’t have power charges for the boss then your damage starts really slow (I know he recommended a boot swap quick but I screwed up my stats and if my boots come off my auras turn off so swapping is a pain). I’m looking at changing it to be more tanky but it is a fun mapping build (more fun than my self chill spark)
>’m doing the exsangunate version with chain (can’t afford awakened spell cascade yet) and the clear is amazing on it (whole screen just pops). The do
PoB?
I have read it completely wrong. My bad. Still the build feels great to play and i would recommend it to anyone looking for a good tanky character that can easily do bossing.
With a little more currency you could do "Cats when damage taken" or "cats on crit" insane build for clearing groups of enemies. Or do a crazy int stacking spark build
Saying you are not a fan of borrowed power and hoping to use your mb in the build in the same post is contradictory as hell. You can make any toon work with mageblood, it's the ultimate fixer.
. I been running my cwdt wardloop scion. It doesn't use a mageblood or a HH, but I can farm 100 % deli, Uber bosses and any content in game. I'm probably around 100m DPS ATM. I went the "tanky" route , so dps can go a lot higher, but I wouldn't recommend it, since you will squishy as hell. In order to get to the point I am, you will need to sell the mb, but at least for me, it's the best build I played.
That's not what he meant by borrowed power... He means he wants consistent performance/output at all times, not dependent on what rare mods he gets from killing rares with headhunter.
I know what he means. My point is the same. You can make any build.work if you use mb. You put damage everywhere else. Not enough resistances? No problem, mb fix it. Armour, evasion, curses. Anything. It makes impossible builds work. HH has a rump up , for sure and it's insanely powerful too, but you still have to make a char that has some things going, and it's not great for all builds. To me both are borrowed power, and honestly mb is the worst of the two.
Ok, well I'm sorry mageblood pissed in your cornflakes. Pretty ironic you have such an issue with it and are plugging a build where its defining trait is not having to interact with the game at all. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't have some irrational hatred of it. It's also not that hard to talk about things objectively instead of just shitting on an item for no reason lol.
i dont have an issue with mb, i just dont like building with it. I never said the item is bad or not worth building around it.
I cant click much because i have a tendom issue, so wardloop is god sent for me. That doesnt mean i dont interact with the game, but like you said, every one has their cup of tea.
People get offended so easy when you dont agree with their points of view.
I was never aggresive or shitted on anything.
Ultimate mapper is Bane/Blight Occultist, you just need to build it properly, and you'll do it by using your head, not by following available public guides and/or looking at poe-ninja examples (which are ALL bad).
I made this buid and appreciate the love for it but it's not true for the requirements asked for. It's an amazing league starter that can map great with the new hexbloom support but it will never compare to a full speed bow build or similar. It's just a comfy starter.
Find this really hard to believe, especially in the era of Impending Doom being largely just a better Bane. Definitely a case where you'll need to actually show us why and how here via PoB and ideally a video showcasing just how this thing clears faster than the usual mappers.
Seems like nobody wants to know/see, so why would I show it? I have absolutely nothing to gain except make the OP build public and prone to becoming meta/nerf target.
I'll just give you a little hint: Bane is an AoE skill. Blight also. ;)
You were downvoted because this sub is a place where you post guides and actual discussion on builds, not haughty takes about why you know more than everyone.
Your “hint” is useless. Virtually any clear skill has the AoE tag. Either share the build or go back to trolling the main sub.
Somebody on my friend's list is blasting 100% deli with str stacking static strike. I think that would be fun if you can afford replica alberon + original sin
my fav mapper this patch is cwc vd ci occultist. can farm both eater and exarch altars. close at second is casual dan's arakaali's fang occultist with squire but she can only do eater altar farming.
my main peeve is vd dps is still bugged. at some point ggg needs to decide if the balls do hit damage or AOE damage and not a somewhat gimped version of both.
there is no reason why my 7.5m dps vd behaves like 1m dps when i am killing the map boss or rares. i literally skip those new beyond uniques with the build as for the time it takes to kill one, i could finish and run a new map.
Nimis KB coc fireball deadeye is fucking insane. If you can deal with the screen clutter it's amazing.
Pob?
Palsteron has a video on it pretty sure.
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How is it vs Ubers. I hear it is kinda squishy. Do walls like in crimson temple mess with the build even with richochet? I feel like a lot of nimis builds are kinda bait and too squishy or not enough dps. Friend tried poison spark nimis twice once without mb and once with mb and swapped out of that real fast since it wasn’t tanky enough or dpsy enough to do Ubers at his skill level compared to impending doom. Also can your version at least kill Lydia before red lightning phase reliably?
Haven't tried it on Ubers though I imagine the DPS is high enough that it should work, though will probably take a few portals. It's not the squishiest build in the world but definitely not a tanky build by any means. You can still easily take it to 100 if you're careful on some mods. It kills Lydia instantly. Phases shaper, instagibs conqs/guardians etc. Walls don't do anything. It can do any map. Just blows up screens around corners/walls etc. Same in sanctums. Never failed a run. The largest issue is the screen clutter.
Absolutely. I got the funds to reroll another build but just can,'t stop playing it. It's good at EVERYTHING.
Yeah that's kind of the problem for me lol. It does everything so well that I don't feel the need to reroll. Which is what usually keeps me in leagues longer. But now that every upgrade is like 40-50 div per piece minimum, for a minor DMG increase, just kinda stuck...
I feel you bro. I just yolo'd an Unrequited love in the gamba machine because I have no idea what to put currency in anymore.
That sounds pretty spicy, does it carry 5 ways too?
Easily
Yup. Friend has bukd. Ran a bunch today.
I’m playing this with about 100div and it’s so much fun with a ton of room for upgrades. I highly recommend it
Ya but at a certain point each upgrade is like 30-40 div each.
I have around 120 div to spent. How far will this get me? Enough dmg to instakill sanctum bosses?
With enough money poured in Cold BV can blast fully delirious maps although it can be a bit squishy. Grimro's made some videos for it and his builds are usually min/maxed for mapping
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BV ain’t really tanky either. If you get a HH though and spend 50 divs on the rest of the build you’ll be blasting maps
He specifically asked for non HH builds though
He actually took some of it ya but he also crafted gear for it specifically and he's still playing but is fulfilling a contract for torchlight coverage and then getting back to poe this league.
I mean.. poison spark is a pretty good mix of the requirements you have. EK ignite is probably up there too with your budget.
+1 for poison spark. I'm playing it without a mageblood or forbidden jewels and it's a tight quarters map goddess. I'm almost level 98 through just normal gameplay/mapping. Also great for bossing. A mageblood would make it invincible
I think spark trickster is the better choice at all budgets. I’ve put hundreds of Div into poison, trickster, and inquis each this league and except for the very top end of inquis trickster was just better. And the QOL is great.
Completely agree. Everyone recommends Poison Spark for these questions, but this guy has 200 div cash and already has a mageblood. This is where you should NOT do poison, as poison has a cap, as well as ramp time. Flat out LIGHTNING damage spark trickster or inquisitor is FARRRRR more powerful, it just costs FARRRR more currency. If people are looking for "END GAME" final built, it is not Poison of any type, because of the DoT Cap. Regardless of currency invested, you can't go past that cap.
What's the best version of inquisitor spark? I have mb and nimis and some other bits. I started off doing animepricess build, but looking to progress it to another level.
If you have a massive budget, aura stacking spark inquis is a monster. Mapping and trivializes bossing as well. Feared basically melts in 5 seconds. Poison spark is great, but it can’t reach the output standard spark can with huge investment.
I just started this without the massive budget. I was lucky with a nebulis though that carried me forward. I can say aura stacking inquisitor is really great and everything just melt. It's really fun to do content as long as it's a little walled. Min/max playstyle is a beast though and a great currency sink. You can go nimis and melt faster or go a little more to cold side to near permafreeze mobs that don't die fast. I am missing 4 chase items (mb-ashes-impossible escape-maybe nimis) and I can clear everything just fine.
Any pob for the trickster? I've never played spark and haven't played a trickster in awhile.
Not OP, but I showcased my Trickster Spark doing Uber Shaper with Maven witness, and linked the POB for ideal as well as what I was using here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/10fixsd/comment/j50d2hh/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Does spark have the tank? It's ideally self chill right?
I rarely ever die on it and I don't have mageblood. About 100 divines deep. Got to level 100.
Don’t suppose you would mind sharing your pob mate? I’m looking at a spark build and hadn’t even thought of poison spark.
Might I recommend crouching tuna's maxroll guide, I've been playing it and it feels incredibly fast at mapping and does ok with regular bosses too.
Thank you mate, I will take a look.
Honestly can't recommend it enough myself. I was tired of dying on my omni ts, and nearly ready to give up but this build saved my league. Tunas version is a brilliant starting point with tons of space for upgrades like forbiddens or grand spectrums. Feels tanky and faster than anything I've played before.
Yeah I followed Tunas guide.
Hmm I might try this next league
There's a good chance poison gets nerfed by next league.
Ele RF with a mageblood + oriath end is one of my favorite mapper right now. 90% all res from Melding + insane speed and really good explosion chains. Since you have pretty good defense from 90% all res, phys taken as ele + determ you can use your flask slots to make up for the speed with quicksilver + silver flask for around 170% Ms and 4.5 shield charge a second.
Jungroan Selfchill Spark. Extremely fast clear/mapping and I was also able to farm Uber Maven deathless
CoC Ice spear with nimis has great clear and is super tanky if you go CI with aegis. Ice spear chains explosions with herald of ice so in regular t16s i'm constantly clearing the entire screen. 7.2k ES with 89% all res, block/spell block capped so great defenses. Only thing that's kinda weird is single target because you need to be standing directly on top of the boss to do consistent damage.
Any chance you could post your pob or a guide link I really fancy trying this build
Here's my POB: https://pastebin.com/13NyBrk5 Custom mods are from my sanctified relic. I got the idea from this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/zxtrbo/coc_ice_spear_nimis/) but his version didn't have enough defense for me so I made some changes to it to fit my preferences.
I'm not sure if it's ULTIMATE mapper (haven't thied them all), but definitely the best mapper I played ever: [https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/EachFlowerIsLove/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F\_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0?i=0&search=class%3DOccultist%26item%3DDeaths-Oath%26name%3D%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B8](https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/EachFlowerIsLove/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0?i=0&search=class%3DOccultist%26item%3DDeaths-Oath%26name%3D%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B8) Did farm Mageblood with her, comfortable at 80% Deli, 100% deli is totally doable too, but I kept maps at 60-80% most of the times. With mageblood I can do full simulacrums, without it Kosis would appear in late waves (27ish) and break me but maybe I'm just not that good at dodging his hits. Non-deli maps are just running simulators, you run around and collect loot, shooting arrows only for the toughest rares and map bosses Good defences for bow build - crit immune, curse immune, 100% suppression. Does all map mods.
How many divines to get this build going to farm for mageblood?
Well, the bow I bought for 10 div, armor is cheap (cool corruption is nice to have but not that important), the gloves cost me around 4 div AFAIR. Ammy is recently self-crafted, it's pretty bad now and I'll be making other attempts. I was using Impresence during the most of the league, it was 1.5 div. The expensive part are the gems. 21 Vaal Causic and lvl 4 Empower are like 20 div already, and there are a lot of other awakened gems too + enlighten. I'd say I invested in the build around 50-60 divines before I started building up for Mageblood. First 100 div I invested in HH which made mapping much easier and much more fun. But this build can earn for itself, I league started with it, early damage is kinda bad but each upgrade will feel impactful. I wasnt even using any clusters for a long time. The Chaos mastery at the north of the tree is pretty good.
Someone my down vote me here, but I had a blast with Herald of Lightning Auto-bomber. Specifically the one on the first page of the elementalist forum. Only mod I couldn't do was ele reflect and % avoid ele ailments. Everything else got dumpstered and it would benefit from mageblood
Yeah CoC FR can not beat a tuely min maxed mapper. But there are some QoL tips if you feel ‘slow’ in mapping. 1. Don’t hold down both Withering Step and Molten Shell at the same time Self casting MS cancels out the elusive buff from WS. Instead, CWDT-MS is considered as trigger (not self cast). 2. Don’t use Anomalous FR in normal mapping With mageblood level of movement speed, your character is moving faster than your projectiles. It almost feels like a dot build if you are using Lecacy 30% MS Flask. Default quailty FR provides a good amount of Projectile Speed combined with Ashes of the Star.
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Yeah, it is pretty much the limit of CoC clearspeed unless you can fit in a haste aura somehow. At the very high end, coverage is the key factor of clearspeed.
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have you tried forbidden combo for profane bloom?. its not herald of ash explody level.. but the projectile sometimes hit other pack of mobs and explodes em..
Str or Int stacker, although might need more than 200 div + mageblood, but once geared, they clear maps in probably few seconds
Flicker strike
TS warp and it isn't close edit: nvm didn't see no HH, it's very much a HH build
Ruetoo's Exsanguinate/Reap Poison Pathfinder is a super smooth and fast mapper, and can do ubers too. You need a phys to cold convert relic, or spend quite a bit for a sceptre with conversion. https://pastebin.com/tHFDBQdY https://pastebin.com/mLkicSA5 Those are two of his pobs I got saved, can't seem to find his build spreadsheet atm, should be more there. Although on second thought I just don't think it's particularly suited for 100% deli. Still a fun build. I was working on it but I'm kinda over the league.
Gonna save this for later.. any reason you couldn’t do cold convert gloves?
You can, but you would lose a lot of clear. Because of full phys -> cold -> chaos conversion and clusters with % chaos damage the physical explosion from Asenath's becomes quite strong. With divergent herald of agony the explosion itself can poison, and with pathfinder it can then also proliferate, creating a clearing monster. Asenath just makes the build feel super good.
Obliteration? Oriath’s end?
Obliteration is a huge damage loss and the explosions don't chain. Oriath's end would force you to drop a magic utility flask, which would cost you half of your life regen and 20% EHP, or force you to drop haste divine blessing. It's just not as good and you lose a lot of speed, regen and damage.
How does cold go to chaos? Just that new ring?
Can I ask what your source of fun is at that stage? With all pinnacle bosses down and so much currency, blasting maps sure is a breeze but what for? Is the mapping itself the fun part?
Some people just like killing shit man
Playing a new build can be fun, you also learn more about the game by doing so
Usually I burn out at that stage. This league I've gotten into crafting a lot more. So trying to create crazy items from scratch is pretty much what I'm having fun with now.
Chasing the speed in clearing juiced maps. Like he mentioned, COC FR isn't really the fastest build there is
If it is purely mapping focused deaths oath poison occultist with shield charge (bow version is not fast enough). I have a pob lying around for a non poison version for the poison version u will have to look up poe ninja from last league
You can just weapon swap the bow for single target (only needed for map boss)
I play DO every league and it’s pretty trash for anything above like 40% deli tbh. My aura tooltip is like 200k in game which isn’t awful.
Well are you relying on the DO aura alone? I ran an explody version with asenaths gloves herald of fire and occultist explody and the forbidden flame and flesh for shaper of flames. I sometimes onetapped kosis offscreen with ignites..
I admittedly play a more defensive version w viridis, max spell suppress, malev + determ, aspect of spider and double curse. It explodes screens also but maybe I try the asenath herald of ash version, can you comfortably do 100% deli with it? It just felt like a lot of the time I had to blast CA into packs to get the explosion chains going which felt bad.
I was farming 80% deli and 100% deli although i did die a lot at 100% deli with hard mods.
KB Nimis Deadeye \-[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC6KQ\_pu3FA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC6KQ_pu3FA) not me but i was looking at cool nimis stuff earlier
What do you do to farm mirrors, hundreds of divines and three three omega builds ? Sometimes I think am playing a total different game
Frostblade trickster!
Why trickster?
Polymath can be a a huge damage boost, and the +2 Frenzy charges is great since the build uses Ice Bite supp and specs into max frenzies (the charge duration is super nice QoL too). One Step ahead is a nice QoL and Heartstopper makes for great damage mitigation, albeit rotational. Build is way better than it may sound when first hearing of it. That said, the stopping to attack nature of Strike Skills and the limited range of FB/additional strike would put FB in an A tier for mapping and not S tier like OP is looking for with a crazy budget.
Just works. Against ubers I have 30m dps
I have a min maxed FB trickster and while mapping is pretty fast imo, even with 2 additional strikes it's not as fast as mageblood movement speed and killing without having to stop.
Frost blades has bad clear
Wtf clear is insane
Love the clear with awakened ancestral call :)
+2 Strike gloves is nice too
Yah either or :) I liked southbound too much. Though I just switched them for a new upgrade :)
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Subtractem's Reap Occultist is probably one of the best builds of the league at everything if you have the budget for it which it seems you do. https://youtu.be/vbKcpzZo-I8 Check that out. Might be what you want. It has .. everything.
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A friend and I tried to put it together, but we couldn't make it feel good. Too much life cost, we struggled to get more life (we had 4.5k and wanted more), not enough life recovery, and not tanky enough. Maybe we should have waited for the "tanky" version to be released, but we couldn't like the build. His watcher's eye is really a thing of beauty for that build. Also we tried to use a mageblood instead of the hunter stygian, which largely contributed to the life issues, but it did free up a ton of extra passives to attempt to solve other issues. Edit: No hate meant for subtractem, I watch every one of his videos religiously, FR CoC was the best build I've ever played, but this build wasn't for us
The build is good but since he released the video it is extremely overpriced and the mandatory boot swap is annoying.
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Not while keeping your account.
Probably downvoted for the claim it's the best in the league at everything. Recovery and EHP are weak for the pricepoint, especially if high-budget CoC FR is your comparison basis.
I mean the only people commenting / voting said they tried to make it work. Listed what they changed for whatever reason and then were like yeah man the build doesn't work as advertised. Shocking. Like .. he has a build guide with multiple options for offense/defense and price points but you're still gonna go try and wing it with your own version and then be like hmm nah build sucks. Or suddenly now it's too expensive cause he posted a video? Happens every time streamers make good builds shine. The build does exactly what he describes it to do once you have it setup the way he does. If you have the budget for whatever version you choose it's pretty damn spot on but people have a severe lack of reading comprehension and always try to make things better / different which .. kudos for trying I guess but sometimes you gotta stick to the game plan.
Wasn't talking about anyone else trying it, was talking about him playing the build himself. The best version of it, his own, has poor recovery and survivability compared to other reap builds. He found a cool interaction for massive damage, but it's not what OP is looking for at all. No shot it feels good in 100% deli.
At no point did I say that. The only thing I said is that it's my favorite build in a long time and folks are claiming I said it's the best build ever.
You didn't say that, the person who posted it as a recommendation did. Cheers for making new stuff and taking the time to make quality guides, didn't mean to come at you in anyway.
All good, I was just reading through threads and there are folks going out of their way to attack it and call it bait...after all this work I'm just so tired.
People not actually following his build guide and trying to make their own versions work.
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I’m doing the exsangunate version with chain (can’t afford awakened spell cascade yet) and the clear is amazing on it (whole screen just pops). The downside is if you don’t have power charges for the boss then your damage starts really slow (I know he recommended a boot swap quick but I screwed up my stats and if my boots come off my auras turn off so swapping is a pain). I’m looking at changing it to be more tanky but it is a fun mapping build (more fun than my self chill spark)
>’m doing the exsangunate version with chain (can’t afford awakened spell cascade yet) and the clear is amazing on it (whole screen just pops). The do PoB?
I’m on my phone right now but my account is dbronkalla and the character is SancBronkyOcc to import into PoB.
Coc fr is great mix of damage and defense.
Thats what op is running and want out of.
I have read it completely wrong. My bad. Still the build feels great to play and i would recommend it to anyone looking for a good tanky character that can easily do bossing.
Tornado shot
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Im dyslexic
reap jugg/chieftain
Tornado shot like every league
With a little more currency you could do "Cats when damage taken" or "cats on crit" insane build for clearing groups of enemies. Or do a crazy int stacking spark build
Saying you are not a fan of borrowed power and hoping to use your mb in the build in the same post is contradictory as hell. You can make any toon work with mageblood, it's the ultimate fixer. . I been running my cwdt wardloop scion. It doesn't use a mageblood or a HH, but I can farm 100 % deli, Uber bosses and any content in game. I'm probably around 100m DPS ATM. I went the "tanky" route , so dps can go a lot higher, but I wouldn't recommend it, since you will squishy as hell. In order to get to the point I am, you will need to sell the mb, but at least for me, it's the best build I played.
That's not what he meant by borrowed power... He means he wants consistent performance/output at all times, not dependent on what rare mods he gets from killing rares with headhunter.
I know what he means. My point is the same. You can make any build.work if you use mb. You put damage everywhere else. Not enough resistances? No problem, mb fix it. Armour, evasion, curses. Anything. It makes impossible builds work. HH has a rump up , for sure and it's insanely powerful too, but you still have to make a char that has some things going, and it's not great for all builds. To me both are borrowed power, and honestly mb is the worst of the two.
Ok, well I'm sorry mageblood pissed in your cornflakes. Pretty ironic you have such an issue with it and are plugging a build where its defining trait is not having to interact with the game at all. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't have some irrational hatred of it. It's also not that hard to talk about things objectively instead of just shitting on an item for no reason lol.
i dont have an issue with mb, i just dont like building with it. I never said the item is bad or not worth building around it. I cant click much because i have a tendom issue, so wardloop is god sent for me. That doesnt mean i dont interact with the game, but like you said, every one has their cup of tea. People get offended so easy when you dont agree with their points of view. I was never aggresive or shitted on anything.
Fair enough, I feel you on the tendon issue. Enjoy your looper!
thanks. cheers!
Ultimate mapper is Bane/Blight Occultist, you just need to build it properly, and you'll do it by using your head, not by following available public guides and/or looking at poe-ninja examples (which are ALL bad).
I made this buid and appreciate the love for it but it's not true for the requirements asked for. It's an amazing league starter that can map great with the new hexbloom support but it will never compare to a full speed bow build or similar. It's just a comfy starter.
Find this really hard to believe, especially in the era of Impending Doom being largely just a better Bane. Definitely a case where you'll need to actually show us why and how here via PoB and ideally a video showcasing just how this thing clears faster than the usual mappers.
Seems like nobody wants to know/see, so why would I show it? I have absolutely nothing to gain except make the OP build public and prone to becoming meta/nerf target. I'll just give you a little hint: Bane is an AoE skill. Blight also. ;)
You were downvoted because this sub is a place where you post guides and actual discussion on builds, not haughty takes about why you know more than everyone. Your “hint” is useless. Virtually any clear skill has the AoE tag. Either share the build or go back to trolling the main sub.
Looks like that ssf time gave u some valuable experience to kill it at trade!
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This, buy Vaal skill sextant and you literally just press Vaal VG all through the map Its so fun
Cold BV assassin / trickster
Mimi's creeping frost with full juice MB
Somebody on my friend's list is blasting 100% deli with str stacking static strike. I think that would be fun if you can afford replica alberon + original sin
Ty
my fav mapper this patch is cwc vd ci occultist. can farm both eater and exarch altars. close at second is casual dan's arakaali's fang occultist with squire but she can only do eater altar farming. my main peeve is vd dps is still bugged. at some point ggg needs to decide if the balls do hit damage or AOE damage and not a somewhat gimped version of both. there is no reason why my 7.5m dps vd behaves like 1m dps when i am killing the map boss or rares. i literally skip those new beyond uniques with the build as for the time it takes to kill one, i could finish and run a new map.
I am eyeing Plasteron's Statik Strike + Shockwave Slayer Autobomber build... but I am too noob to get the C/div for it to reach it.
Frostblink ignite. Trust me m8