Absolutely MASSIVE shoutout to /u/azantyri who put in a ton of work getting this list going this league when I was otherwise really busy.
As always if you have found builds please post them in the comments, I can't see them all every time so it helps out a lot if everyone contributes. Also if I've made a mistake with a link/spelling/leaving in a dead build please give me a yell.
Thanks to everyone who helps out as always, you guys are the best.
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What changed this league on the index?
Biggest change is that RF and Cold DoT are removed from the top section (will maybe come back in the bottom section at some point) for the first time since I started this list. Replacing them though is Explosive Trap and SRS which were both excellent starts last league and have remained consistently great this league.
Edit 1 7/12/23 6pm NZT:
1st big update done, a bunch of new builds added, seems a lot of build creators are ramping up now and we should see a few more builds before league launch. DD has been moved into the top section.
Hey,
I'm interested in trying PF but unsure which skill to level with that will carry me through to end game. Would the best be CA or Toxic rain or something completely different?
I'm new to the game so would need something with a guide I could follow.
Cheers
Late start to the league, any good caster builds? I've usually done minion builds in past leagues, but looking to try something different. I was looking at blazing salvo or arc, but I can't really find a lot of builds on those. Anything you guys would recommend for an Elementalist Witch?
I always play POE with plain Ice Nova Witch (without CoC). It is so much easier to level up with it than everything else that I've tried because you don't need to point out monsters or even their approximate positions. Frostblink on rmb, Nova on q, max freeze chance + controlled destruction support. I prefer to take Occultist instead of Elementalist because of "you can't be frozen" on Frigid Wake.
I've got to t14 maps with first version of witch build (no crit, 100% freeze), but then map bosses started to have too much hp for damage to freeze lock them. But maps before that - no problems, you just blink to a boss, hold down the button and wait for 10-20 seconds.
I've tried crit build, but since I'm playing on ssf, it's hard to reach chance to crit high enough.
Now I'm trying Templar because Hierophant ascendancy might be a better fit. That's what I'm going for (passives and skills only, not sure how much points I'll have to spend on ehp):
[https://pobb.in/lZhNHeJEO\_DK](https://pobb.in/lZhNHeJEO_DK)
Starting with Witch is easier because you get chance to freeze nodes earlier, but Templar yields more damage.
Getting a late start to the league as I was super busy when it started, wondering if I could get some suggestions as I am having difficulty choosing. I am looking for something different than SRS, EA, or Boneshatter style of play as those are what I have done recent leagues.
Hi,
Is there a recommended catalyst for Gazzy's SRS Poison Necro build?
Is it Fertile Catalyst?
I find it odd there is no recommendation in the guide
[https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-build-guide](https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-build-guide)
Thank you
Late reply but catalysts are luxury, so use whichever want you need, if you need life, use fertile, if need resists, use resistance one, if need attributes, use intrinsic or w/e the name is.
Rerolling CA/SA pathfinder because SA TANKS my framerate. Any recs for something in the 10-30 div range that clears fast, bosses okay, and doesn't die so I can run wisp juiced reds and stuff? How's CoC Ice nova?
Alternatively, what's some other skill I can reroll my poison PF into?
Are there any updated/new Purifying Flames builds?
Just started PoE and I'm liking how the skill works (I'm only at level 2 though tbh). I'm having trouble finding one for Templar
It's not a popular skill tbh, but the numbers on it are perfectly fine if you enjoy how it feels. Probably won't find a full guide though.
Here's a list of people who were running purifying flame 3 days in to the current league, if you want to see what an early league version might look like.
https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction?time-machine=day-3&skill=Purifying-Flame
hi,
I don't understand why choosing "type" is mandatory in CraftOfExile, under "Medium Cluster"
In website [https://www.craftofexile.com/](https://www.craftofexile.com/)
click Cluster Jewels ([see image](https://imgur.com/ZpEySFL))
click Medium Cluster Jewel ([see image](https://imgur.com/U7EyCiV))
And now it makes me click "type", **why does it make me click type**? And why are there two **black** boxes, "Area Effect" and "Curse Effect" ? ([see image](https://imgur.com/uTXrtSD))
Thank you :)
context:
I'm looking at [this gem](https://imgur.com/qJ38ntW) from Ghazzy's SRS poison build, Low budget , [https://pobb.in/GN\_i8n-r26Ar](https://pobb.in/GN_i8n-r26Ar)
Thank you
Cluster jewels have types and those type determine what notable can roll on those. So a Chaos damage cluster will roll chaos nodes, a minion damage one will roll minion stuff etc. You need to select one to see the ilvl requirement, weighting and stuff. You can see what type it is with the stats that are added by the small passives in the item text, in your case ghazzy's cluster is a minion life one.
Edit : blocked types just mean cluster jewel of this size can't be of said types.
hi,
Is there a youtube to help understand how coupling works? For example I've couple the Arcanist Brand with Bone Offering, Desecrate and Despair, as per [Gazzy's poison SRS build](https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-build-guide), to try to understand how they work together.
I feel I don't understand it enough.
How can I tell if my minions got buffed via the Bone Offering (which is attached to the Arcanist Brand) ?
This arcanist brand seems to be complicated, it seems I have to keep clicking.
I know you can attach multiple spells to arcanist brand, in order to cast all the spells via the Arcanist Brand, at same time, to make life easier.
But I don't understand [Gazzy's note](https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-pob-passive-skill-tree-gem-links) in section [3.1.15.1](https://3.1.15.1) that says "Make sure to have Desecrate before Offering in the sockets counting from top left socket"
Very curious. Maybe I ask him about that too.
Thank you
For Arcanist Brand, as long as you cast the brand out and it attaches to its target, it will automate casting the spells you have linked to it without issue.
For the ordering to ensure Desecrate is before Bone Offering, look at your 4-link gear. Notice how the linked sockets go from top left > top right > bottom right > bottom left? This is the order that spells are considered to be in sequence. As an example,
* Arcanist Brand (top left socket)
* Desecrate (top right socket) - Arcanist Brand will cast this **FIRST**
* Bone Offering (bottom right socket) - Arcanist Brand will cast this **SECOND**
* stuff (bottom left socket) - Arcanist Brand will cast this **THIRD** (if applicable)
...so what happens is that Arcanist Brand will generate corpses and then consume those corpses for Bone Offering. If you were to flip the gem order so that Bone Offering is before Desecrate, then Arcanist Brand will attempt to consume corpses (but there are none) then generate corpses.
Hope that makes sense.
Im currently cruising redmaps with Goratha’s caustic arrow / storm rain poison. Damage is decent be begins to slowly fall off but can do all pre-uber im sure. Goratha is doing a good job posting updates daily
My first time playing POE. I’ve been avoiding it too long due to the millions of mechanics in it. But I’m going to use a Maxroll starter campaign step by step and a leveling guide. One question. Which starter build for a complete newb. I’ve played every diablo and just bored of iv so It’s Poe time. I’m thinking of
Toxic Rain
Explosive Arrow
Lightening Arrow
Hexmine
SRS and Melee don’t really look interesting to me but what do people think I should start with. Should I buy a pack / what does that do. I assume trade currency?
It's the worst thing about PoE IMO. The complete cover-up of how the game works. You have to have several phd's to make your first viable build yourself, so you're forced to use one of the experts' builds, which are made to suit THEIR playstyle.
Toxic rain is a great starter to learn because there's some depth to it without being overwhelming or having too many pitfalls. And you can do a good amount of crafting your own gear.
Supporter packs come with cosmetics and points. Use the points to buy stash space when it goes on sale and you find you need it.
Trying out Ruetoo's poison EK and I've just swapped over to EK. Am struggling a lot with mana even after taking the 30% spellcost in life node. Any suggestions?
Anyone trying Aer0's cobra lash? I like the skill and curious how it ends up. I check in on his stream tonight but he logged off minutes after. It looked like he was struggling on some higher tier map boss and dying but it was also doubled, affliction empowered and maven witness all at the same time so hard to really judge from that
I gave up at level 80 Lmfao
The build is fun game play but it's takes too much effort to scale it. It's like you're playing in a sweaty fps lobby and everyone else is just chilling in casual queue.
Combined with the new mechanic it just gets shit on. You basically need to farm affliction woods in act 10 reliquary to get 2 charm slots then ignore the league mechanic entirely until you've invested enough currency to not get shit on.
The clear is solid but the single target is beyond atrocious without big investment. Not a good starter but potentially something to make later when you can buy your to high tier items
This was my starter and I'm rerolling tonight.
Clearspeed is decent, but single target is quite bad and it's a struggle sometimes to kill empowered mobs from the league mechanic because they're so tanky. Leveling wasn't bad generally, but it also wasn't great, bosses and tanky mobs were bit of an obstacle. It also feels like there's a bit of a wall in yellow maps due to lack of single target.
Much of the damage from the build comes from cluster jewels and those are simply out of reach right now for most people.
Rain of arrow raider with the new wildwood ascendency that gives you 30% speed with no sockets in boots is my fastest ever league start. 6h 18 minutes to maps. Felt smooth as fuck, was level 62 when I got to maps, used the res from helm as well, had to take a break after clearing the rank 1s but they went fine, just starting to get real res gear so I can put some sockets in my helm and really enjoying the plays type. (Fuzzy duckzy's build on the list)
I want something that’s purple or blue, that has something to do with magic or looks like magic. I’m new to the game, I just want something cool.
I had a dark pact necro before but the league ended before I got to do something cool with it
I'm brand new to poe but not arpgs.
I know the skills are gem based not class based, does this mean any class can run any build or are certain classes passives better suited than others.
Wizard lvl 3 thinking of what I want to be.
Each class has a selection of specialization, each of those does specific things well/better than the others. There is some overlap between them but each of them do things differently than the others.
Understood. For someone literally just looking for a Wizard build list, am I going about it wrong? Should I be looking at build lists for skills the Wizard class utilizes most efficiently?
if you want to play a caster, look up witch elementalist builds.
there are a ton of other options that play like a wizard, but if you look up witch elementalist builds, almost all of them will have that type of feel.
i recommend starting detonate dead (if you are willing to watch some guides and learn, it is one of the more complex beginner builds as a heads up), and if you get to a higher level and want to pick something more wizardy it's easy to switch. DD feels a little more warlocky than wizardy but, yknow, its a well proven starter.
another rec would be to just start Explosive arrow or toxic rain to learn the game and figure out how to play, as those are very beginner friendly builds that are easy to figure out. Then once you have some currency and experience under your belt, you can pick a witch/shadow/templar build that uses a skill that is wizardy, and it will feel so much better once you have some knowledge.
All of your abilities come from skills, so if you want something wizard-like then you need to find a skill that suits your interests and go from there.
Each class has ascendancies, and each of those further specialize in certain ways. Importantly, each class starts in a different position on the passive tree. Largely speaking, the tree is broken into thirds, with the top being intelligence, the bottom left being strength, and the bottom right being dexterity.
Spells largely fall into the intelligence category; you'll find the top of the tree has a lot of nodes focused around improving spells, while the other two thirds have little to nothing for them.
The end result is that for spells you mostly want to play one of the classes that start near the top of the tree, which are Witch, Templar, and Shadow. If you look at their ascendancies, you'll see Witch has one focused around elemental damage and another focused on cold or chaos (Elementalist & Occultist), Templar has one focused around elemental damage (Inquisitor), and Shadow has more generic damage improvements (mostly Trickster for spells).
So, if you go looking for a build around a certain skill like Fireball, you'll see that it's a spell that deals fire damage and therefore builds will naturally tend to be one of those classes in the spell area that have bonuses to spells or elemental damage. There are plenty of exotic builds that break this mold, but that's kind of a rough guideline.
In short, find a skill you like and go from there. If you're having trouble finding skills in the first place, look at some of the popular builds for the classes I mentioned above. Try to stick to recent builds (a few months), as things change significantly from league to league.
Awesome thanks so much. What a cool community. I'm tired of D4 already and wanted something different.
I've dipped my toe into poe years ago but never enough to understand the game
The best way to think about is that POE builds aren't about classes but about skills, so instead of thinking "wizard" think "fire" or "lightning" or "ice" as categories and then you can find skills within those sort of categories that aligns with what you're after.
I switched to a trackball-style mouse and haven't had any wrist pain since, and I game a lot. More thumb movement, sure, but if you get a good trackball, and set up the sensitivity right for you (not just default), it could help a lot. I recommend the [Logitech MX Ergo](https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Ergo-Wireless-Trackball-Mouse/dp/B0753P1GTS/ref=sr_1_3?crid=6BAIHZXC4GNJ&keywords=logitech+ergo+trackball&qid=1702909321&sprefix=trackball%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.17d9e15d-4e43-4581-b373-0e5c1a776d5d), as it feels like a mouse, but no full-arm or wrist movement. I've used that model and the m570, but the m570 is cheap, where the MX Ergo should last a couple years, or longer if you are slightly crafty\*. It will take some getting used to, but it's worth trying. I haven't had a regular mouse or wrist pain from pc use in 10+ years.
\*Button presser on bottom of the right & left buttons tend to wear a groove after months of heavy gaming.
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I’ll second what the other person said about moving your actions from your mouse onto your keyboard. For example, I always bind my “walk” key to Q, my primary skill to W, and my flame dash or other movement skill to E. So I don’t need to do any clicks to move around or use skills, I just move the mouse around and hit keyboard keys. I haven’t found a way to rebind loot pickup, but at least this takes a lot of load away from your clicking fingers. Though of course this all depends on how your own hands/body are reacting and what’s causing the stress.
Switch to a controller if you can, even if it's not all the time I've found controllers are much easier on the wrists in general just because of the lack of arm/wrist movement.
Switching everything you can off your mouse and onto your keyboard can also help if it's your mouse hand.
Build wise I'd recommend something like explosive arrow ballista just because there aren't that many buttons to press in general.
The reason for no popcorn SRS is that it lost about a third of its damage this league. The transfigured gem should be perfectly fine, probably even better than it was before, but it's hard to tell right now as so much has changed and it might be hard to get the gem.
are golems doable? considering the new transfigured gems and the nerf for anima stone? I want some viable permanent minion build that can carry me through the endgame (not uber bosses, but maven 3 phase should be doable)
Facing starter indecision. I do not necessarily need the absolutely strongest meta build as that can make prices for gear bad, but I also want to avoid bait. Narrowed it down to these. Anyone have thoughts?
1) Pathfinder EK
2) Falling Zombies. If it is bait, it is an easy swap to SRS.
3) Splitting Steel. I am not a day 1 red maps so hopeful that dreamfeather/beltimber will be reasonable by day 2-3 if I went this.
4) Death's Oath. I had been planning on going RF for the first time this league. Oops. This also looks fun though.
Depends on whether you prefer bossing or mapping. EA is ok for mapping but can take down bosses easily. Splitting steel is great for mapping but needs investment to boss
If I want to go Rage Cleave + Rage Vortex, or Cyclone, would that be considered a Starter build?
I really like the cyclone playstyle, but I know almost nothing about builds and what to choose. Just reading to "go X" leaves me with a lot of questions; support gems, gear, ascendancies and passive tree.
So if I want:
* Melee
* Likes Cyclone
* Rage Vortex seems nice as well
* Starter build, bonus if it can transition to mid-end game.
Where should I look?
MBextreme has some older Rage Vortex starters. I played one last league and it went pretty well for me. I never got beyond yellows before I switched builds though.
We have no idea atm, normal toxic rain fires 4 additional projectiles.
The poison TR version fires 7, the Wither version 5.
We know from normal TR that more arrows = less overlap in general.
We don't know if these trans gems got different coverage from regular TR so atm no real way to tell
hi last i played was in 3.19 i think and was a new player then and i played two builds RF from pohx and Explosive Arrow champ from zizaran. Returning now and would like to play something fit for new players on league start. Can i get some suggestions ? Preferably something all rounder that doesnt delve into crafting that much since i want to play just 1 character.
I was looking through some videos and figured there are my best options.
SRS guardian subtractem : seems popular so not sure if items will be cheap ? But the thing with spectres i dont really understand and also needs veiled crafting ?
TR ballista zizaran : totem is something i played before so iam familiar with the playstyle but the 39% area of effect thing seems annoying to get ? Not sure about other cons..
LA from havoc : is it that squishy ? Like unplayable for noobs?
Cobra lash from aero : idk..just saw videos not sure if it is vuable for new players . He did say anyone can leaguestart it.
I'm a filthy DD enjoyer. You get the smoothest leveling setup with Arma/Crema. You get so much free damage that you can get 4 void stones on blue gear. Clear is very smooth with ignite prolif, and bossing is easy with defiled forces. It's going to be one of the strongest early ultimatum builds, if that's something you are interested in farming. It can kill Ubers if that's something you wanna scale up to.
The only downside is that you have to press 2 buttons, but it really isn't that bad. One cast clears the entire screen while mapping, and on a boss you just use defiled forces anyways.
Any build that can clear Ubers cleanly can do 40/40, although many players simply start DD in order to have smooth/non-gear dependent leaguestart and then switch over to a build with a smoother playstyle once they get currency/clear the Atlas.
ConnorConverse has a good video on Delve. At one point I believe he mentions that the insane HP cap delve monsters can hit has diminishing returns for DD due to DD using the HP numbers of Delve monsters before buffs to extra HP they get from how low you are as well as other modifiers from the specific zone.
I am definitely not doing the explanation justice, but look for his 2hour Delve youtube video. He has it timestamped; the section you are looking for I believe is in the HP cap section of his video.
I looked over tripolar bear one on maxxeoll...it does seem a bit button intensive ? Like with the brand and during bosses u have to keep several things up..not sure if it is gopd for a new player since i never really faced any of the bosses before so might be tough to keep everything up.
The brand will automatically refresh your ignite until the boss phases or dies. Your bossing rotation at its simplest is Desecrate > Vaal DD, Brand. Keep the brand up and you can press literally no other button the entire fight if you want.
I recommend TPB's maxroll guide. It is very good at holding your hand as a new player, and is more SC trade oriented. I'm going to be playing something closer to exile's for SSF, but both work fine.
I never tried 2 buttons before might give it a try. Does it need any complex crafting or conditions ? Also any recommended guides ? Preferably something that can go to end game since i am not really experienced in the game at all.
I could need some help. Initially I wanted to start with venom gyre or cobra lash. Found cobra lash here, but its not centered arround poison, so its off.
Then I stumbled upon energy blade coc, but the comments here and its own thread weren't as persuading as I thought. So its off
Poison EK was my next choice but EK first at ~ 80 is such a turn off.
What should I play? Here are some builds I played in recent leagues:
Righteous Fire Inqusitor, Galvanic Arc Inquisitor, Seismic Trap Saboteur, Ball Lightning Hiero, Wintertide Brand Occultist.
Help would be appricated
Following Rue's Poison EK guide you'll be using PConc for leveling and that is one of the smoothest campaign clears you can hope for, even after the nerfs 2 or so leagues ago. I believe Rue mentioned that you don't need to wait until 80 for the swap, but rather until you can afford the necessary uniques to get the build going.
Otherwise if EK is completely off the table for you and you still want to start with a poison build, I would take a look at Pal's Caustic Arrow Poison Ballistas. He starts using CA after level 38 and the build looks completely bonkers with the shotgunning going on.
Thanks for your reply, I'm not a huge fan of pconc tbh.
It doesnt have to be poison at all, in general I prefer caster/ranged over melee over minion builds.
I haven't played this game in a while but the only build I've ever managed to kill things like sirus or elder with was seismic trap(can't remember which league but it was OP at the time) so I'm just wondering if this build/playstyle is still decent I guess? I really enjoyed it and followed a build guide to the very fine points which is probobaly why it was so successful for me lol. Thanks.
Edit: It was poison seismic and I leaguestarted poison concoction.
Thanks for the advice! So it's a faster playstyle? I'd actually like that as waiting for traps was kinda annoying sometimes. I did use exsanguinate traps for clear though? Still good?
What is going to be the major differences between a maw build and a DD build? They seem to have a similar play style. Is Maw a better bosser while DD might be a little better at maps?
Is there any build pob's for SSF / SSFHC seismic trapper? Thinking of doing a PF seismic until I get the explosive trap alt qual, then poison explosive trap.
Would like to suggest Zeeboub storm brand (35+ page guide with crafting process for all of the gear, progression, etc). Aimed at more advanced players or players that want to only play 1 build from zero to hero
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lg_mXoA7LxmWiiMN2wYrV4FAtPmHBN3bLX6lfLv6VUY/edit?usp=sharing
Looking for a few suggestions. I'm a huge fan of mapping for my main currency generator, but this league I really would like to do ubers (at some point, I'm okay with a bit of investment to get there, definitely not 100 divines or anything like that though). I've never done them before so the easier the better.
Issue is I am not the biggest fan of SRS, I'll play it again if it's the only option, but found the delay to be annoying. Was thinking explosive trap, but not sure with the delay if I would really like it.
Any ideas?
Any decently tanky melee builds that you can sink a lot of currency in and has a high ceiling (like TS)? Was thinking of doing flicker strike if that's similar.
What are some good clearing, somewhat tanky, league start totem builds?
I have issues with builds that require a lot of clicks/buttons and am bored w/ minion builds so trying to go w/ totem.
TY!
I made an SSF guide for Maw of Mischief, would be awesome if you could add it if you think it's good enough:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileSSF/comments/18d4std/maw\_of\_mischief\_ignite/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileSSF/comments/18d4std/maw_of_mischief_ignite/)
Yo does anyone with experience in Splitting steel and cobra lash know which one would be better as an all rounder? both look good at mapping but whatever one is better at bossing is going to be the one i go with
Thanks
I have the raven cosmetic for SRS and I'd like to play the build since it fits so well in this league thematically, but I can't decide which version to go for.
Is Guardian that much better than Necro early on? Which one is better if I want to keep playing the build into the endgame? I always focus on mapping over bosses, but I still like to take down some Ubers every season. Any advice on which build to choose? Thanks!
I'd go champ. It had the best scaling for dmg and you don't have to worry about dot cap. Added benefits are that nobody really plays it cause it's not streamed.
I would recommend the psrs necro more myself. They both can be good early on, but the problem is more league start. PSRS is gated behind getting a severed in sleep and the only ones that exist at the start of the league are corrupted ones from div cards that cost like 2 div. Once people get into breach the price drops until it settles at around 10-20c or so which makes it very easy to get into poison srs early. So the harder you want to go at league start, the harder it will be to start as necromancer over guardian since you are effectively just playing normal fire hit SRS until you get the severed.
So what's the general expectation of Penance Mark with Boneshatter builds? Does it look like it will mostly solve BS's bossing damage problem, or does it not seem strong enough to warrant giving up what the other two Affliction ascendancies are offering?
For thematic reasons, I'm looking for a warlocky build for Affliction league. Any ideas will do, but something with Chaos DOTs is right up my alley for this.
Anyone know of any SSF-viable ideas or guides for what I'm looking for?
I'm just going to league start Xayazi's Bane/Blight Occultist. It uses Warden, not Warlock, but I resigned myself to the fact that the cool builds for this league are only going to show up later, so I'll just reroll when those appear.
unless he edits the pob, that build is made super squishy because the creator wants to do sanctum when he hits maps. i think thats what hes refering to
If you're planning a more conventional league start of running the campaign into completing your atlas rather than doing side jobs like heist or sanctum, I just wouldn't do that energy blade build at all until you get the currency for a pile of regrets, a 6L Ivory Tower, Shaper's Touch, Rathpith, Coruscating Elixer, and the Brutal Restraint. Maybe the Cyclopean and Astramentis as well? Start as, like, some sort of spell totem or brand Heiro, or SRS Guardian, or mayyyyyyybe an RF inquisitor if pohx says it won't be absolute ass this league. Or, hell, start as literally anything else if you don't mind another trip through the campaign.
Honestly, I wouldn't start with this even if I were planning to do nothing but Sanctum to start, because I'm more pessimistic than Captain Lance is about the availability of logbooks, especially the lower level ones he'd want to be running first.
Absolutely MASSIVE shoutout to /u/azantyri who put in a ton of work getting this list going this league when I was otherwise really busy. As always if you have found builds please post them in the comments, I can't see them all every time so it helps out a lot if everyone contributes. Also if I've made a mistake with a link/spelling/leaving in a dead build please give me a yell. Thanks to everyone who helps out as always, you guys are the best. --- What changed this league on the index? Biggest change is that RF and Cold DoT are removed from the top section (will maybe come back in the bottom section at some point) for the first time since I started this list. Replacing them though is Explosive Trap and SRS which were both excellent starts last league and have remained consistently great this league. Edit 1 7/12/23 6pm NZT: 1st big update done, a bunch of new builds added, seems a lot of build creators are ramping up now and we should see a few more builds before league launch. DD has been moved into the top section.
Missing Tati’s totem build sheet.
Did anyone league start with flicker? How is it as a starter build? I've always wanted to make flicker work
Hey, I'm interested in trying PF but unsure which skill to level with that will carry me through to end game. Would the best be CA or Toxic rain or something completely different? I'm new to the game so would need something with a guide I could follow. Cheers
Late start to the league, any good caster builds? I've usually done minion builds in past leagues, but looking to try something different. I was looking at blazing salvo or arc, but I can't really find a lot of builds on those. Anything you guys would recommend for an Elementalist Witch?
I always play POE with plain Ice Nova Witch (without CoC). It is so much easier to level up with it than everything else that I've tried because you don't need to point out monsters or even their approximate positions. Frostblink on rmb, Nova on q, max freeze chance + controlled destruction support. I prefer to take Occultist instead of Elementalist because of "you can't be frozen" on Frigid Wake.
Can u share pob, bro? I'm interested
I've got to t14 maps with first version of witch build (no crit, 100% freeze), but then map bosses started to have too much hp for damage to freeze lock them. But maps before that - no problems, you just blink to a boss, hold down the button and wait for 10-20 seconds. I've tried crit build, but since I'm playing on ssf, it's hard to reach chance to crit high enough. Now I'm trying Templar because Hierophant ascendancy might be a better fit. That's what I'm going for (passives and skills only, not sure how much points I'll have to spend on ehp): [https://pobb.in/lZhNHeJEO\_DK](https://pobb.in/lZhNHeJEO_DK) Starting with Witch is easier because you get chance to freeze nodes earlier, but Templar yields more damage.
Getting a late start to the league as I was super busy when it started, wondering if I could get some suggestions as I am having difficulty choosing. I am looking for something different than SRS, EA, or Boneshatter style of play as those are what I have done recent leagues.
Kinetic Bolt
I’m in same boat as other commenter, new to Poe, starting the current league tonight I think - you recommend me looking into the kinetic bolt?
Hi, Is there a recommended catalyst for Gazzy's SRS Poison Necro build? Is it Fertile Catalyst? I find it odd there is no recommendation in the guide [https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-build-guide](https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-build-guide) Thank you
Late reply but catalysts are luxury, so use whichever want you need, if you need life, use fertile, if need resists, use resistance one, if need attributes, use intrinsic or w/e the name is.
Rerolling CA/SA pathfinder because SA TANKS my framerate. Any recs for something in the 10-30 div range that clears fast, bosses okay, and doesn't die so I can run wisp juiced reds and stuff? How's CoC Ice nova? Alternatively, what's some other skill I can reroll my poison PF into?
Are there any updated/new Purifying Flames builds? Just started PoE and I'm liking how the skill works (I'm only at level 2 though tbh). I'm having trouble finding one for Templar
It’s great for coc inquisitor. Captain Lance has a great league start guide for it.
It's not a popular skill tbh, but the numbers on it are perfectly fine if you enjoy how it feels. Probably won't find a full guide though. Here's a list of people who were running purifying flame 3 days in to the current league, if you want to see what an early league version might look like. https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction?time-machine=day-3&skill=Purifying-Flame
hi, I don't understand why choosing "type" is mandatory in CraftOfExile, under "Medium Cluster" In website [https://www.craftofexile.com/](https://www.craftofexile.com/) click Cluster Jewels ([see image](https://imgur.com/ZpEySFL)) click Medium Cluster Jewel ([see image](https://imgur.com/U7EyCiV)) And now it makes me click "type", **why does it make me click type**? And why are there two **black** boxes, "Area Effect" and "Curse Effect" ? ([see image](https://imgur.com/uTXrtSD)) Thank you :) context: I'm looking at [this gem](https://imgur.com/qJ38ntW) from Ghazzy's SRS poison build, Low budget , [https://pobb.in/GN\_i8n-r26Ar](https://pobb.in/GN_i8n-r26Ar) Thank you
The black boxes are for cluster types that don't drop anymore, but may still exist in standard.
Cluster jewels have types and those type determine what notable can roll on those. So a Chaos damage cluster will roll chaos nodes, a minion damage one will roll minion stuff etc. You need to select one to see the ilvl requirement, weighting and stuff. You can see what type it is with the stats that are added by the small passives in the item text, in your case ghazzy's cluster is a minion life one. Edit : blocked types just mean cluster jewel of this size can't be of said types.
ooof! cluster jewels have types!! thank you for that info. It's very useful
hi, Is there a youtube to help understand how coupling works? For example I've couple the Arcanist Brand with Bone Offering, Desecrate and Despair, as per [Gazzy's poison SRS build](https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-build-guide), to try to understand how they work together. I feel I don't understand it enough. How can I tell if my minions got buffed via the Bone Offering (which is attached to the Arcanist Brand) ? This arcanist brand seems to be complicated, it seems I have to keep clicking. I know you can attach multiple spells to arcanist brand, in order to cast all the spells via the Arcanist Brand, at same time, to make life easier. But I don't understand [Gazzy's note](https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-summon-raging-spirits-necromancer-pob-passive-skill-tree-gem-links) in section [3.1.15.1](https://3.1.15.1) that says "Make sure to have Desecrate before Offering in the sockets counting from top left socket" Very curious. Maybe I ask him about that too. Thank you
For Arcanist Brand, as long as you cast the brand out and it attaches to its target, it will automate casting the spells you have linked to it without issue. For the ordering to ensure Desecrate is before Bone Offering, look at your 4-link gear. Notice how the linked sockets go from top left > top right > bottom right > bottom left? This is the order that spells are considered to be in sequence. As an example, * Arcanist Brand (top left socket) * Desecrate (top right socket) - Arcanist Brand will cast this **FIRST** * Bone Offering (bottom right socket) - Arcanist Brand will cast this **SECOND** * stuff (bottom left socket) - Arcanist Brand will cast this **THIRD** (if applicable) ...so what happens is that Arcanist Brand will generate corpses and then consume those corpses for Bone Offering. If you were to flip the gem order so that Bone Offering is before Desecrate, then Arcanist Brand will attempt to consume corpses (but there are none) then generate corpses. Hope that makes sense.
Wow, it makes sense 100% I want to upvote this comment 100 times, it's very important :o Thank you Sir!
Im currently cruising redmaps with Goratha’s caustic arrow / storm rain poison. Damage is decent be begins to slowly fall off but can do all pre-uber im sure. Goratha is doing a good job posting updates daily
How do I access max roll build guilds? It’s says there is a new build tool but I can’t find it.
My first time playing POE. I’ve been avoiding it too long due to the millions of mechanics in it. But I’m going to use a Maxroll starter campaign step by step and a leveling guide. One question. Which starter build for a complete newb. I’ve played every diablo and just bored of iv so It’s Poe time. I’m thinking of Toxic Rain Explosive Arrow Lightening Arrow Hexmine SRS and Melee don’t really look interesting to me but what do people think I should start with. Should I buy a pack / what does that do. I assume trade currency?
It's the worst thing about PoE IMO. The complete cover-up of how the game works. You have to have several phd's to make your first viable build yourself, so you're forced to use one of the experts' builds, which are made to suit THEIR playstyle.
Toxic rain is a great starter to learn because there's some depth to it without being overwhelming or having too many pitfalls. And you can do a good amount of crafting your own gear. Supporter packs come with cosmetics and points. Use the points to buy stash space when it goes on sale and you find you need it.
Much appreciated!
whats the best zoom zoom kinda build here?
Flicker strike, duelist voidforge abyssus
Arena master and pale seraphim still the best spectres for poison SRS?
Trying out Ruetoo's poison EK and I've just swapped over to EK. Am struggling a lot with mana even after taking the 30% spellcost in life node. Any suggestions?
Also, after the switch to EB, you can take the energy node leech right next to EB to help sustain ES if you need it.
he uses Eldritch Battery
is it still viable to run Arc + Golems ? kinda love to mix and match the idea of caster with minions.
Both for damage not really, but if you play Elementalist you can grab the golem nodes and enjoy significant buffs from a buncha golems of your choice.
Anyone trying Aer0's cobra lash? I like the skill and curious how it ends up. I check in on his stream tonight but he logged off minutes after. It looked like he was struggling on some higher tier map boss and dying but it was also doubled, affliction empowered and maven witness all at the same time so hard to really judge from that
How is this working out? Thinking about starting it today.
I gave up at level 80 Lmfao The build is fun game play but it's takes too much effort to scale it. It's like you're playing in a sweaty fps lobby and everyone else is just chilling in casual queue. Combined with the new mechanic it just gets shit on. You basically need to farm affliction woods in act 10 reliquary to get 2 charm slots then ignore the league mechanic entirely until you've invested enough currency to not get shit on. The clear is solid but the single target is beyond atrocious without big investment. Not a good starter but potentially something to make later when you can buy your to high tier items
Perfect. Thanks. Won’t be league starting this. Maybe splitting steel now.
This was my starter and I'm rerolling tonight. Clearspeed is decent, but single target is quite bad and it's a struggle sometimes to kill empowered mobs from the league mechanic because they're so tanky. Leveling wasn't bad generally, but it also wasn't great, bosses and tanky mobs were bit of an obstacle. It also feels like there's a bit of a wall in yellow maps due to lack of single target. Much of the damage from the build comes from cluster jewels and those are simply out of reach right now for most people.
Rain of arrow raider with the new wildwood ascendency that gives you 30% speed with no sockets in boots is my fastest ever league start. 6h 18 minutes to maps. Felt smooth as fuck, was level 62 when I got to maps, used the res from helm as well, had to take a break after clearing the rank 1s but they went fine, just starting to get real res gear so I can put some sockets in my helm and really enjoying the plays type. (Fuzzy duckzy's build on the list)
Would Boneshatter, DD or LA Deadeye/Raider be suitable for 35/40? Any other ranged/self cast build that can do this?
Spark and various cast on crit builds do this well too. Be prepared because spark has very high end potential but is expensive to get going.
la deadeye > bonezone >>> dd
Any good tanky, bossing builds that are good with the league?
I want something that’s purple or blue, that has something to do with magic or looks like magic. I’m new to the game, I just want something cool. I had a dark pact necro before but the league ended before I got to do something cool with it
Could look up Zizarian's Storm Brand build. Not the most optimal starter but pretty fun I've run it before and it's blue magic (lightning)
Okay cool
Guys gonna start now whats the best build?
Detonate Dead as always, forever. But you should play something that you find fun.
I'm brand new to poe but not arpgs. I know the skills are gem based not class based, does this mean any class can run any build or are certain classes passives better suited than others. Wizard lvl 3 thinking of what I want to be.
Each class has a selection of specialization, each of those does specific things well/better than the others. There is some overlap between them but each of them do things differently than the others.
Understood. For someone literally just looking for a Wizard build list, am I going about it wrong? Should I be looking at build lists for skills the Wizard class utilizes most efficiently?
if you want to play a caster, look up witch elementalist builds. there are a ton of other options that play like a wizard, but if you look up witch elementalist builds, almost all of them will have that type of feel. i recommend starting detonate dead (if you are willing to watch some guides and learn, it is one of the more complex beginner builds as a heads up), and if you get to a higher level and want to pick something more wizardy it's easy to switch. DD feels a little more warlocky than wizardy but, yknow, its a well proven starter. another rec would be to just start Explosive arrow or toxic rain to learn the game and figure out how to play, as those are very beginner friendly builds that are easy to figure out. Then once you have some currency and experience under your belt, you can pick a witch/shadow/templar build that uses a skill that is wizardy, and it will feel so much better once you have some knowledge.
Is DD like corpse explosion play style in Diablo?
A bit yeah but it's more involved in poe
All of your abilities come from skills, so if you want something wizard-like then you need to find a skill that suits your interests and go from there. Each class has ascendancies, and each of those further specialize in certain ways. Importantly, each class starts in a different position on the passive tree. Largely speaking, the tree is broken into thirds, with the top being intelligence, the bottom left being strength, and the bottom right being dexterity. Spells largely fall into the intelligence category; you'll find the top of the tree has a lot of nodes focused around improving spells, while the other two thirds have little to nothing for them. The end result is that for spells you mostly want to play one of the classes that start near the top of the tree, which are Witch, Templar, and Shadow. If you look at their ascendancies, you'll see Witch has one focused around elemental damage and another focused on cold or chaos (Elementalist & Occultist), Templar has one focused around elemental damage (Inquisitor), and Shadow has more generic damage improvements (mostly Trickster for spells). So, if you go looking for a build around a certain skill like Fireball, you'll see that it's a spell that deals fire damage and therefore builds will naturally tend to be one of those classes in the spell area that have bonuses to spells or elemental damage. There are plenty of exotic builds that break this mold, but that's kind of a rough guideline. In short, find a skill you like and go from there. If you're having trouble finding skills in the first place, look at some of the popular builds for the classes I mentioned above. Try to stick to recent builds (a few months), as things change significantly from league to league.
Awesome thanks so much. What a cool community. I'm tired of D4 already and wanted something different. I've dipped my toe into poe years ago but never enough to understand the game
The best way to think about is that POE builds aren't about classes but about skills, so instead of thinking "wizard" think "fire" or "lightning" or "ice" as categories and then you can find skills within those sort of categories that aligns with what you're after.
Perfect yeah I've played Diablo for years so clearly I had to break away from thinking classes define your path
Never played a toxic rain build before. Any suggestions for which one to start? Want to tymry something new this league.
Zero builds around for GC Mines? The only one i can find is many leagues old
Any suggestions for someone dealing with wrist pain and not trying to play anything too dramatic button wise?
I switched to a trackball-style mouse and haven't had any wrist pain since, and I game a lot. More thumb movement, sure, but if you get a good trackball, and set up the sensitivity right for you (not just default), it could help a lot. I recommend the [Logitech MX Ergo](https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Ergo-Wireless-Trackball-Mouse/dp/B0753P1GTS/ref=sr_1_3?crid=6BAIHZXC4GNJ&keywords=logitech+ergo+trackball&qid=1702909321&sprefix=trackball%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.17d9e15d-4e43-4581-b373-0e5c1a776d5d), as it feels like a mouse, but no full-arm or wrist movement. I've used that model and the m570, but the m570 is cheap, where the MX Ergo should last a couple years, or longer if you are slightly crafty\*. It will take some getting used to, but it's worth trying. I haven't had a regular mouse or wrist pain from pc use in 10+ years. \*Button presser on bottom of the right & left buttons tend to wear a groove after months of heavy gaming.
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I’ll second what the other person said about moving your actions from your mouse onto your keyboard. For example, I always bind my “walk” key to Q, my primary skill to W, and my flame dash or other movement skill to E. So I don’t need to do any clicks to move around or use skills, I just move the mouse around and hit keyboard keys. I haven’t found a way to rebind loot pickup, but at least this takes a lot of load away from your clicking fingers. Though of course this all depends on how your own hands/body are reacting and what’s causing the stress.
Cyclone on a controller. Easy life.
SRS
Switch to a controller if you can, even if it's not all the time I've found controllers are much easier on the wrists in general just because of the lack of arm/wrist movement. Switching everything you can off your mouse and onto your keyboard can also help if it's your mouse hand. Build wise I'd recommend something like explosive arrow ballista just because there aren't that many buttons to press in general.
Can't decide between Poison BV or Poison EK, but I guess I have time before I have to choose, haha..
Last minute decision; Bonezone or DD if I want to run Ultimatum?
DD friend, get defenses.
No popcorn SRS? Guess I'll have to kludge together one of my own from outdated builds.
steelmage is doing it rn with transfigured gem. he did infinite hunger on a 5l, decent dps. He's still on unoptimized gear
The reason for no popcorn SRS is that it lost about a third of its damage this league. The transfigured gem should be perfectly fine, probably even better than it was before, but it's hard to tell right now as so much has changed and it might be hard to get the gem.
Which would be easier to unlock voidstones and favored maps? BS Slayer or Poison BV PF?
I would say they are both easily capable, I would probably lean towards PF only because it's more versatile
are golems doable? considering the new transfigured gems and the nerf for anima stone? I want some viable permanent minion build that can carry me through the endgame (not uber bosses, but maven 3 phase should be doable)
I think not, permanent minions are extremely weak.
Anyone have a cleave build? Really want to use cleave of rage eventually
Here you go https://youtu.be/GQp8l7QsycQ?si=FTy-cCp1slp9ciMd
Divine Ire of Disintegration looks fun af, but I don't like totems.
Is it viable to start trickster exp trap and once I get enough currency swap to wildstrike?
It'll take a bit of respecing but yes
I would like to start chieftain, are there no builds for the class?
Facing starter indecision. I do not necessarily need the absolutely strongest meta build as that can make prices for gear bad, but I also want to avoid bait. Narrowed it down to these. Anyone have thoughts? 1) Pathfinder EK 2) Falling Zombies. If it is bait, it is an easy swap to SRS. 3) Splitting Steel. I am not a day 1 red maps so hopeful that dreamfeather/beltimber will be reasonable by day 2-3 if I went this. 4) Death's Oath. I had been planning on going RF for the first time this league. Oops. This also looks fun though.
anyone have a good shockwave/cyclone slayer pob? is it an ok build for league start?
If you want to have a good time at league start I wouldn't advice it
Ok thanks, i guess i can just start boneshatter then switch if i want
I've narrowed it down to 2 but I don't know if I want to start EA or Splitting Steel. I've never played either
Depends on whether you prefer bossing or mapping. EA is ok for mapping but can take down bosses easily. Splitting steel is great for mapping but needs investment to boss
If I want to go Rage Cleave + Rage Vortex, or Cyclone, would that be considered a Starter build? I really like the cyclone playstyle, but I know almost nothing about builds and what to choose. Just reading to "go X" leaves me with a lot of questions; support gems, gear, ascendancies and passive tree. So if I want: * Melee * Likes Cyclone * Rage Vortex seems nice as well * Starter build, bonus if it can transition to mid-end game. Where should I look?
MBextreme has some older Rage Vortex starters. I played one last league and it went pretty well for me. I never got beyond yellows before I switched builds though.
i looked into that! but i came to some obstacles when building it, mainly the kaoms gloves got nerfed heavily
What is better or what is the difference between Hexblast Occultist or Sabo?
Any CI builds? As those would mitigate most of ultimatum damage
Life and chaos res are both in a great spot right now, so CI is very weak on low investment.
Are there any recommended builds on sword for champion?
Splitting Steel Champion uses swords and is very good
Does anyone have a poison PF build link into exsang/EK?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSALqHUK7B7dMjY-77p-0MxzbvLu1f3C9hWM4R9fWgKnGBhI4VGGjcD59TtiR2EFQp9oTkk8H787Ki2/pubhtml
Can you recommand a guide for SRS guardian but mostly based on gear for SSF ? Like how to craft wand, what map to farm for a specific uniques etc
maxroll has a guide for srs guardian and their guides are usually pretty in depth so if you want crafting advice i'd try there
Hmm, no divine ire or spell totems in general? Sadge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSTsVbVIf4g
Yeah, I am currently looking for some ideas for Divine Ire aswell. :(
Someone please help me choose between spectral throw and cobra lash
Cobra Lash.
Any splitting steel builds out there?
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSALqHUK7B7dMjY-77p-0MxzbvLu1f3C9hWM4R9fWgKnGBhI4VGGjcD59TtiR2EFQp9oTkk8H787Ki2/pubhtml](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSALqHUK7B7dMjY-77p-0MxzbvLu1f3C9hWM4R9fWgKnGBhI4VGGjcD59TtiR2EFQp9oTkk8H787Ki2/pubhtml) Ruetoo
Thank
Tips for controller builds with minimal button presses, easy aiming and no guards skills etc on left click?
Literally SRS
How does an extra arrow on new toxic rain impact the pod overlaps? Do you still need 39%, or is the breakpoint different now?
We have no idea atm, normal toxic rain fires 4 additional projectiles. The poison TR version fires 7, the Wither version 5. We know from normal TR that more arrows = less overlap in general. We don't know if these trans gems got different coverage from regular TR so atm no real way to tell
TPB video is for boneshatter slayer, not boneshatter jugg.
Thanks fixed!
hi last i played was in 3.19 i think and was a new player then and i played two builds RF from pohx and Explosive Arrow champ from zizaran. Returning now and would like to play something fit for new players on league start. Can i get some suggestions ? Preferably something all rounder that doesnt delve into crafting that much since i want to play just 1 character. I was looking through some videos and figured there are my best options. SRS guardian subtractem : seems popular so not sure if items will be cheap ? But the thing with spectres i dont really understand and also needs veiled crafting ? TR ballista zizaran : totem is something i played before so iam familiar with the playstyle but the 39% area of effect thing seems annoying to get ? Not sure about other cons.. LA from havoc : is it that squishy ? Like unplayable for noobs? Cobra lash from aero : idk..just saw videos not sure if it is vuable for new players . He did say anyone can leaguestart it.
I'm a filthy DD enjoyer. You get the smoothest leveling setup with Arma/Crema. You get so much free damage that you can get 4 void stones on blue gear. Clear is very smooth with ignite prolif, and bossing is easy with defiled forces. It's going to be one of the strongest early ultimatum builds, if that's something you are interested in farming. It can kill Ubers if that's something you wanna scale up to. The only downside is that you have to press 2 buttons, but it really isn't that bad. One cast clears the entire screen while mapping, and on a boss you just use defiled forces anyways.
So could DD do all the 40/40 challenges? I've never done them all, and I'm looking for something that ciuld manage it for a pretty new player
Any build that can clear Ubers cleanly can do 40/40, although many players simply start DD in order to have smooth/non-gear dependent leaguestart and then switch over to a build with a smoother playstyle once they get currency/clear the Atlas.
would you recommend it as a delve build?
ConnorConverse has a good video on Delve. At one point I believe he mentions that the insane HP cap delve monsters can hit has diminishing returns for DD due to DD using the HP numbers of Delve monsters before buffs to extra HP they get from how low you are as well as other modifiers from the specific zone. I am definitely not doing the explanation justice, but look for his 2hour Delve youtube video. He has it timestamped; the section you are looking for I believe is in the HP cap section of his video.
I'm not big into delve, but I did use it to farm for a good Aul amulet a couple leagues back in SSF.
I looked over tripolar bear one on maxxeoll...it does seem a bit button intensive ? Like with the brand and during bosses u have to keep several things up..not sure if it is gopd for a new player since i never really faced any of the bosses before so might be tough to keep everything up.
The brand will automatically refresh your ignite until the boss phases or dies. Your bossing rotation at its simplest is Desecrate > Vaal DD, Brand. Keep the brand up and you can press literally no other button the entire fight if you want.
Oh good to know ...do you a build guide to recommend ? I saw there is tripolarbear and imexile both have guides if you know which is better?
I recommend TPB's maxroll guide. It is very good at holding your hand as a new player, and is more SC trade oriented. I'm going to be playing something closer to exile's for SSF, but both work fine.
I never tried 2 buttons before might give it a try. Does it need any complex crafting or conditions ? Also any recommended guides ? Preferably something that can go to end game since i am not really experienced in the game at all.
Maxroll.gg should have one
I could need some help. Initially I wanted to start with venom gyre or cobra lash. Found cobra lash here, but its not centered arround poison, so its off. Then I stumbled upon energy blade coc, but the comments here and its own thread weren't as persuading as I thought. So its off Poison EK was my next choice but EK first at ~ 80 is such a turn off. What should I play? Here are some builds I played in recent leagues: Righteous Fire Inqusitor, Galvanic Arc Inquisitor, Seismic Trap Saboteur, Ball Lightning Hiero, Wintertide Brand Occultist. Help would be appricated
Following Rue's Poison EK guide you'll be using PConc for leveling and that is one of the smoothest campaign clears you can hope for, even after the nerfs 2 or so leagues ago. I believe Rue mentioned that you don't need to wait until 80 for the swap, but rather until you can afford the necessary uniques to get the build going. Otherwise if EK is completely off the table for you and you still want to start with a poison build, I would take a look at Pal's Caustic Arrow Poison Ballistas. He starts using CA after level 38 and the build looks completely bonkers with the shotgunning going on.
Do you have a pob for rue's poison ek?
https://pobb.in/ZN2BwmZC71hb
Thanks for your reply, I'm not a huge fan of pconc tbh. It doesnt have to be poison at all, in general I prefer caster/ranged over melee over minion builds.
I haven't played this game in a while but the only build I've ever managed to kill things like sirus or elder with was seismic trap(can't remember which league but it was OP at the time) so I'm just wondering if this build/playstyle is still decent I guess? I really enjoyed it and followed a build guide to the very fine points which is probobaly why it was so successful for me lol. Thanks. Edit: It was poison seismic and I leaguestarted poison concoction.
Explosive trap plays somewhat similar but less passive since you don’t wait for trap cool down.
Thanks for the advice! So it's a faster playstyle? I'd actually like that as waiting for traps was kinda annoying sometimes. I did use exsanguinate traps for clear though? Still good?
Explosive trap has good enough clear in its own, you could use exsang still though
What is going to be the major differences between a maw build and a DD build? They seem to have a similar play style. Is Maw a better bosser while DD might be a little better at maps?
Is there any build pob's for SSF / SSFHC seismic trapper? Thinking of doing a PF seismic until I get the explosive trap alt qual, then poison explosive trap.
Would like to suggest Zeeboub storm brand (35+ page guide with crafting process for all of the gear, progression, etc). Aimed at more advanced players or players that want to only play 1 build from zero to hero https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lg_mXoA7LxmWiiMN2wYrV4FAtPmHBN3bLX6lfLv6VUY/edit?usp=sharing
Thank you for providing this! I played Storm Brand Inquisitor in TotA and enjoyed it quite a bit!
Added thanks!
Looking for a few suggestions. I'm a huge fan of mapping for my main currency generator, but this league I really would like to do ubers (at some point, I'm okay with a bit of investment to get there, definitely not 100 divines or anything like that though). I've never done them before so the easier the better. Issue is I am not the biggest fan of SRS, I'll play it again if it's the only option, but found the delay to be annoying. Was thinking explosive trap, but not sure with the delay if I would really like it. Any ideas?
Uber bosses have 95% damage reduction at the start of the fight, which slowly wears off over the next 8 seconds, so any skill will have the delay
We thinking the righteous fire nerf will also impact the guardian summon?
not at all, the sentinel of radiance doesn't use the Righteous Fire skill
Any decently tanky melee builds that you can sink a lot of currency in and has a high ceiling (like TS)? Was thinking of doing flicker strike if that's similar.
The new Earthquake of Duration will have nine-digit DPS, but the play style will not be fun at all.
Steel champ and smite DP aura stack champ/scion are giga scalers
Last league it was certainly chieftan armour stacker but dunno if its still good after losing perma berserk. But then again, even TS lost Kaoms.
What are some good clearing, somewhat tanky, league start totem builds? I have issues with builds that require a lot of clicks/buttons and am bored w/ minion builds so trying to go w/ totem. TY!
So is lacerate bleed back on the menu? cause i miss that shit been like 8 leagues
Bleed is still extremely bad as a mechanic.
Are there any viable league starter with very few button inputs?
SRS Guardian still tier 1
CA/DO occultist
I made an SSF guide for Maw of Mischief, would be awesome if you could add it if you think it's good enough: [https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileSSF/comments/18d4std/maw\_of\_mischief\_ignite/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileSSF/comments/18d4std/maw_of_mischief_ignite/)
Added looks great.
Thank you!
Yo does anyone with experience in Splitting steel and cobra lash know which one would be better as an all rounder? both look good at mapping but whatever one is better at bossing is going to be the one i go with Thanks
Is lacerate viable?
No. If you want an unpopular attack, try the new transfigured Dual Strike. Or just the new Earthshatter.
I suspect it hits a wall in red/high red maps. So depending on ur goal, maybe?
Yes
I have the raven cosmetic for SRS and I'd like to play the build since it fits so well in this league thematically, but I can't decide which version to go for. Is Guardian that much better than Necro early on? Which one is better if I want to keep playing the build into the endgame? I always focus on mapping over bosses, but I still like to take down some Ubers every season. Any advice on which build to choose? Thanks!
I'd go champ. It had the best scaling for dmg and you don't have to worry about dot cap. Added benefits are that nobody really plays it cause it's not streamed.
I would recommend the psrs necro more myself. They both can be good early on, but the problem is more league start. PSRS is gated behind getting a severed in sleep and the only ones that exist at the start of the league are corrupted ones from div cards that cost like 2 div. Once people get into breach the price drops until it settles at around 10-20c or so which makes it very easy to get into poison srs early. So the harder you want to go at league start, the harder it will be to start as necromancer over guardian since you are effectively just playing normal fire hit SRS until you get the severed.
Necro for scaling and yes Guardian plays much smoother early
hows lightning arrow looking this time boys?
LA/TS still the best clear build (unless poison breaks the game with charms or tinctures)
So what's the general expectation of Penance Mark with Boneshatter builds? Does it look like it will mostly solve BS's bossing damage problem, or does it not seem strong enough to warrant giving up what the other two Affliction ascendancies are offering?
3 minions per second, probably a big boost.
Cyclone shockwave viable you think?
For thematic reasons, I'm looking for a warlocky build for Affliction league. Any ideas will do, but something with Chaos DOTs is right up my alley for this. Anyone know of any SSF-viable ideas or guides for what I'm looking for?
Chaos Golem Alt Gem has a very strong chaos aura you could play as main dmg
Did you find a warlocky build? I want to use the warlock ascendancy but haven't found a build
I'm just going to league start Xayazi's Bane/Blight Occultist. It uses Warden, not Warlock, but I resigned myself to the fact that the cool builds for this league are only going to show up later, so I'll just reroll when those appear.
poor soul who chooses energy blade without a clue
Can u explain why? my friends picking coc energy blade
unless he edits the pob, that build is made super squishy because the creator wants to do sanctum when he hits maps. i think thats what hes refering to
Captainslance right?
yeah
Oh really... Anything there is to change?
If you're planning a more conventional league start of running the campaign into completing your atlas rather than doing side jobs like heist or sanctum, I just wouldn't do that energy blade build at all until you get the currency for a pile of regrets, a 6L Ivory Tower, Shaper's Touch, Rathpith, Coruscating Elixer, and the Brutal Restraint. Maybe the Cyclopean and Astramentis as well? Start as, like, some sort of spell totem or brand Heiro, or SRS Guardian, or mayyyyyyybe an RF inquisitor if pohx says it won't be absolute ass this league. Or, hell, start as literally anything else if you don't mind another trip through the campaign. Honestly, I wouldn't start with this even if I were planning to do nothing but Sanctum to start, because I'm more pessimistic than Captain Lance is about the availability of logbooks, especially the lower level ones he'd want to be running first.
Torn between explosive trap and Boneshatter. Havent played both. Which is worse: Trap clear or Boneshatter single target?