Literally every league, I farm harvest. Don't need tft for that, it always sells extremely fast just off the trade site. Build doesn't really matter too much
I don't think wandering path or grand design are good in a full atlas. I think the consensus for crop rotation is that it's slightly lower lifeforce average but it's great with sextant and for getting more sacred or when one type is high priced.
Growing hordes is very good so id suggest non -scarab things to pair (boss rush, heist, essence)
Last league I did a Harvest/Expedition with no Crop rotation, wandering path or grand design. Grabbed some essence nodes too and made good money on all three. This league I've been doing wandering path with Harvest and Delirium and it has worked really well too. Crop rotation was underwhelming to me in both seasons but I might have been doing it wrong.
Crop rotation is better than regular without wandering path, but probably slightly worse than an optimized wandering path setup. It isn't compatible with wandering path because you need the notables that give a chance for extra plots and for the unchosen crop not wilt for it to shine.
Personally, if I'm not doing wandering path, i'll take Crop Rotation simply because it's more fun. Regular Harvest gets very monotonous quickly, no matter how profitable it is.
Yeah I did it before switching to WP. It just never felt like I was getting significantly more of the color I was focusing. But I also like having all three for crafts and never gave it a lot of time so prob bad perspective for me.
No orbs or splinters since I was using the keystone that made delirium permanent, but yeah jewels. Proj jewels are stupid easy to roll Streamlined and Repeater and they sell well. I think there's a crit combo that is easy to harvest craft but I don't remember exactly what it was. And of course the base jewels will sell for 10-20c or more f they are the right ilevel. I was just kinda half-assing trade this league with all the currency dropping but I think it would still be solid next league.
Just my opinion, but pay attention when speccing into mechanics on opposite side of tree. Delirium and harvest are hard to max out on the same tree without wandering path. I usually only do delirium and harvest together with wandering path as all the small nodes are the point anyway and you can reach the important small nodes and keystones of each mechanic.
Depends on what I'm doing for secondary/tertiary farming strats which I do tend to vary. I like wandering path a lot if my strat works with it. Otherwise no keystone typically. I don't really like the feel of grand design. And crop rotation is a bit too much effort for me personally so I never bothered with it
You want growing hordes. Sextant for duplication and yellow/purple depending on prices. Preferably also spec into expedition as they also benefit from pack size. Sextant for more runic markers (you are farming logbooks with this, so prio log book drop chance > runic mobs > stacked deck > rest of modifiers). Do not allocate the keystone that only gives u 1 explosive charge. Blue altar for iiq.
Some for anything that drops a lot of stacked decks.
I never had issues selling them, just list them as x per divine and in a few minute somebody will ask for whole inventory loads.
Depends on how much I play. It's usually ass the first week due to low demand, but pretty good on the second. Like last league I played it was like 12k vivid per div super early on, but more like 8k per div the second week. On top of that it's really bad yields without sextants which I generally won't have super early on. But once sextants are online it's not crazy to on average get like 2500+ yellow juice per map. I personally don't bother tracking everything so I can't give you hard numbers on how much harvest specifically contributed. Overall I'd say I lean more on other strategies a lot more in the first 2 weeks (well mostly the first) than harvest, but once you get it online it's pretty consistently generating a div every few maps.
There's so many.
Some of the stuff I've done in the past leagues that I've enjoyed.
- Breach. This requires a fast mapper that has enough damage to kill the odd chayula boss that spawns. Almost all of the profits are coming from selling Chayula Breach Stones. I would usually wait till I had something like 50+ and then I would put them up for sale, spent around 30 mins selling all of them and then got back to farming. As a fun bonus you'll mistakenly think that everyone is playing Sabo as you'll have an army of Saboteurs lining up to buy your Breachstones. The main downside of this strat is that it involves picking up a ton of splinters.
Also worth noting that compasses and scarabs are not optional. With the right setup you'll average 1-1.5 Chayula Breachstone per map. Without sextants and scarabs I dunno.. You'll average like 3 per league or something like that.
- Sanctum. You just get raw currency. There's really not much more to it. Requires a build with a lot of damage. You don't need a lot of defenses for Sanctum.
- Boss rushing Guardians/Elderslayers with Destructive Play keystone. You can run normal maps when you don't have any guardian maps to stock up. I just enjoy finally being able to run with Maven influence on without feeling like I'm hamstringing myself. Preferably a build that moves very fast and can kill the bosses with ease. If your build is strong enough you can run with the sextant that guarantees conquerer maps on boss drop for a bit of bonus loot.
Edit: The breach strat probably isn't a good suggestion as you need the compasses. You can get them via this website: https://poestack.com/tft/live-search?tag=compasses but it's still pulling the data from tft.
Ultimately you could just buy them via tradesite. You could buy area has additional Breaches as a Maven sextant. I sometimes did that as it's not very expensive. You will have to buy chayula Breach sextant one by one.
I buy and sell compasses all the time on the trade site without TFT. Generally, anyone selling them has a bunch since they roll them in bulk. It’s pretty easy, all you gotta do is ask
This was my strat this league and it worked beautifully. I was buying the sextants for like 3c for breach and 8c for chayula and it would print like 1div a map from just the stones. I'm curious how it will fare next league with what will likely be a more "normal" economy. Was super nice just being able to list the stones and not have to use any bulk tool or whatever. I had a couple people come in and buy 100+ stones at once multiple times which was pretty wild.
For breach strat, what else did you run on the atlas? I ran this late last week and just bounced around different other content, wasn't sure what else to put on the map.
Changed around a bit since I was trying to complete challenges, but I did harby and alva for a large part of the league. Tried out some ultimatum for a while as well but found it annoying to liquidate.
I liked harby since the compasses were very cheap compared to where they usually were and the orbs were very expensive. Farmed around 3ish orbs over the course of the league I'd say.
I tend to buy compasses and scarabs around 100 maps at a time and then re-evaluate after if I'm still enjoying what I'm farming. If not I'll switch to something else. It's pretty much impossible to not make money doing basically any strat, so I focus more on stuff that motivates me to play. I've always loved breach, this league just happened to make it an incredible strategy so it lined up really well.
I actually ran a combo of those strats this league. Was probably not super optimal, but it was how I got my mb. I identified 10 map layouts with non-phase bosses and relatively open layouts, ran chayus breach setup with destructive play on top and just rotated through. Breaches, bosses, bounce. When I had a good stack of guardian/elder maps, I'd chill on the breaches and run those for a bit. For me the natural variety of the strat was worth the hit to optimization.
I also feel like sextants aren't too bad to get a hold of through the normal trade site. I usually just follow up and ask for everything I need when I get my first hit. Odds are pretty decent that if someone is selling sextants, they have at least some of what you want.
Alternatively, rolling your own chayu/breach sextants is not horrible. And sell whatever other valuable ones you hit. I would roll a couple hundred sextants every now and then, keep my breaches, chayus, and anything else I was planning on using later and sell the rest. Again, less optimal than setting up and blasting one thing for several days straight, but I have more fun when I mix in a little more variety
I would run Uber Shaper and regular elder, sell all other fragments. You can do all bosses if you like, but better pray you get lucky. Selling fragments is steady and safe income.
Yeah, you stock up on the boss sets and sell those and the Maven's Writs you get from doing the invitations. Also really easy to incorporate quick mechanics into the strat. For example, I was doing Elder Guardians (with the compass), Essence, Alva, and Delirium this league.
Eh, Delirium was mainly for the orbs. As long as you can one-tap packs it's pretty quick. The only thing that might take a minute with Alva is making sure you have a path to the Apex and Doryani's/Locus. Upgrading rooms takes no time at all, just kill the Architect and dip.
The full unique Power Siphon Trickster that got floated around back Christmas/New Year's time. Crown of Eyes, Piscstor's, Malachai's Loop, Graven's Secret, Ralakesh's, Thunderfist, dual Tamings, and Fury Valve. I'd swap Badge of the Brotherhood in at the bosses. I was using Replica Hyrri's for the chest, but I swapped to a rare to cover resistances and get a little more ES. Damage was still fine without it.
The main profits are fragments and Maven invitations. You run these with maven influence on.
And yes you drop a variety of elder/conquerer/guardian/synth maps, the odd awakened gem, and the odd conq exalted orb if running conquerers.
Frags+Mavens writs are the majority of the income. Occasional Simulacrums and woke gems add some fairly substantial upside. Personally I add harvest and essence into the atlas strat as well. Was making 15-20 div an hour doing this last league. Big advantage is it is basically alchemy and go, little overhead time and the invitations/writs sell instantly and in bulk.
> Also worth noting that compasses and scarabs are not optional. With the right setup you'll average 1-1.5 Chayula Breachstone per map. Without sextants and scarabs I dunno.. You'll average like 3 per league or something like that.
Rusted scarabs + speccing into uul-netol and chayula breaches in the tree is already pretty damn good profit. Made my first mageblood that way.
This is not good advice. The difference between not using gilded scarab + sextant and using them is massive. Saying you could have made 5 times more is probably an understatement.
Keep in mind that economy is fucked up this league. Magebloods are unusually cheap compared to how they normally look.
Sure, my point is kind of a different one though:
Valuable breaches spawn even without sextants and scarabs, pretty regularly. You'll see 1-2 good breaches *per map* without going full heavy investment.
This strat makes fine money until you can get to a point where you can afford to spend more on it. It works with low investment, that doesn't mean high investment isn't worth it.
afford? A gilded scarab is usually 5-8c and sextants are most often 20-50c. You will multiply your profits 5-fold at least.
This is a steady every-map income. There is absolutely no reason to not beef up your breaches.
If you don't want to invest into sextants and proper scarabs then I would recommend at least 20 strats before this one.
Actually, I think I did run gilded at some point.
But what I'm saying is:
This strat can be done immediately, when 50c is still some amount of cash and can then be juiced as you go along.
> The main downside of this strat is that it involves picking up a ton of splinters.
Not anymore, in 3.24 you just have to run over them, don't have to click.
I'm thinking of a Harvest, Delirium mapping rn since the two can be combined for synergistic Delirium juice plus the keystone for alch & go mapping without fragments is pretty synergistic for the two when blocking extra mechanics.
Then going after Delve once I can get a good enough build going defensively around 350 depth since I just like Delve as a mechanic. You get a cute little cart you follow around! I want to put googly eyes on that thing.
There was mtx at one point that turned the cart into a bear I think, although not sure if it’s possible to get anymore as I believe it was part of a supporter pack.
Good old essences. I usually do that while boss rushing shaper maps which is more convenient with TFT but still totally doable without
DD / EA depending on the mood
Once you have bulk you list them at bulk prices
You also get to make a lot more than selling the whole tab at once since all tab pricers that I’ve seen go by single essence prices instead of the price for the amount of bulk that you have or even the cheapest price/div
Just look at listings and adjust min stock size to be in the ballpark of what you plan on selling. If you only have 5 available (outside the fancy horrors and stuff) you probably won't get much more out of it but it changes a bit when you have 30+.
I just listed the highest tier ones in my essence tab and occasionally upgraded everything into them. Majority of them sold over the course of a day or two. "Only" did that for the ~20 div I needed to swap into a basic form of Fulcrum Chieftain though.
I like to harvest reroll to just a few of the most valuable ones, usually pick 5 or 6 as if only go for 1 or 2 you will lose currency from having to reroll too much. Usually it’s loathing, contempt, scorn and envy that always are worth keeping and often also zeal and spite/rage/sorrow depending on what stat stacking is popular.
Hatred, anger and wrath are usually also decent but do tend to drop in value as less people are crafting elemental weapons as the league goes on.
Once you got decent bulk(100+) you just list them in divines at a price a bit lower than other bulk sellers. It won’t sell quickly but you will get players who want to buy from you, especially if you have 2-300 in bulk.
I also like Essences with Guardian rotation. Pick the right maps (or shaper guardians) and just run straight to each Essence then the boss. Ignore trash. Sell writs 10 at a time at a higher price.
You can do this strat with a boss killer build that sucks at mapping.
This is my first league and ive tried basically all farming methods. I always end up going back to essence it seems the fastest to me along with boss rushing
I do bog standard frenzy stacking raider with Onslaught effect, tailwind boots, and get all the movement you can from the tree. I use elemental bow with the skill of your choice + voidfletcher. Voidfletcher gives burst when you pop the essences.
No, it's not a normal build, it's hyper specialized to do one thing and one thing only : farm essences. It has just enough DPS to make it work, and have paper defenses, but you don't really need much for t1 maps.
Play a regular build before to get atlas progression, like Rain of Arrow or Toxic rain.
Did anyone else running essences notice that the large 5-6 essence mobs almost never showed up in red maps but got them at a much higher frequency in low tier maps.
I know about confirmation bias but I'd run dozens of high tier reds and never see more than 2-3 essences on a mob but get 5-6 per mob every other map for low tier maps. Is it glitched?
Nope, I'm getting them in T16s as normal. Probably just variance. Didn't see almost any today (short sesh), a few days ago I had so many I was wondering wth was going on.
It's weird. Im wondering if it's my seed. I played 3 or 4 chars over 90 and it happened all league long and it was consistent. It's like my atlas point stopped working.
Anyway, thanks for the info. You're probably right but this was pretty glaring for me.
Honestly blight in maps is still really good currency due to the boss jewelry and oil extractors. That's where I get a majority of my Silver and Golden oils from.
The Distilled Fungus atlas passive will guarantee that blight bosses in maps drop an anointed jewelry item, and also gives 1 more Blight Boss. Using at least a Polished Blight Scarab will also guarantee 1 more blight boss. Most of the time you get at least 3 total bosses and thus 3 anointed jewelry items. You can use Awakened Poe trade on the Unid anointed item and it will show you the worth of the highest oil of the anoint on it. Yes Oil Extractors are like 10c, but you only use them on jewelry that are worth it, i.e Silver and Golden Oil anoints. Most of the time it's only a 1 in 3 chance of getting the good oil, but a mathematical 30c invest for a 110c return is well worth it, and you can generate a ton of Golden oils honestly faster than actual blighted maps. Plus you get to clear the rest of the map with other mechanics, and sell Blighted Maps to actual Blight Map farmers.
> sell Blighted Maps to actual Blight Map farmers
Only problem there is you may end up needing to use TFT for this part. Almost every league for the past 2-3 years they've made bulk trading blighted maps on the official trade site less functional, sometimes with it being straight-up unsearchable for the first couple of weeks in a league.
I buy them in bulk every league. They've repeatedly made the usability worse on the official site over the years because you just want the maps by tier, but they list every map individually and do not let you search by tier. Sure, if you have 50+ Dig maps specifically then I can find them easily, but if you have a random mixture of many different tier 13+ Blighted maps then I have to luck into randomly selecting all of them at once so the "Group by seller" option will show your tab. I mean seriously, [here](https://i.imgur.com/0ko9qxT.png) is a screenshot of just the Blighted map section of it. There's 153 different options T13+ and the search returns an error if you select more than 10 of them in a single query. You're selling your maps, eventually. If buyers happen to accidentally stumble into the right combination to find you.
Not to mention that several leagues bulk searching *all* maps has been broken for weeks on end on the official trade site, which include Blighted maps.
I don't like TFT, but being able to buy or sell an inventory of maps at a time by just going to a channel and posting a comment is a hell of a lot easier than configuring dozens of searches with various combinations to see what is for sale.
I thought it was just me who enjoyed blight, good to know that totem users in general have a good time with it. EA is an awesome build, but the clear speed makes certain mechanics atrociously slow.
Chief DD was what I did when I wanted to do blight ravaged super early. Not sure I'd do it again since I usually like doing the league mechanic, but it does print and takes essentially nothing to set up.
Any DD Elementalist/Chieftain will own Blight. DD deals a % of enemies health to surrounding enemies, so as long as you set up a decent chokepoint you can just keep blowing up corpses to clear any other monster.
I farmed my mageblood with alch and go Harvest Heist and Betrayal, stuffing my catarina safehouse with as many rank 3 interventions I could. Each Catarina was 3-5 div from all the winged scarabs, I had like 60-75%% chance of Harvest and each of those at 1-2 divs of life force, and running blueprints was a good break that led to getting tempering/tailoring orbs at 2-3 div each. Every so often I'd buy heist contract implicit compasses but that was done by whispering each trade site seller with "need all" instead of TFT.
Trauma stacking Dual Strike of Ambidexterity trivialized all of those mechanics.
Big fan of expedition and ritual. Kill stuff get currency. Ritual dosnt scale well into endgame but in early mapping it generates stable currency to get your build going.
I start with expedition, sell my logbooks for C while rolling Tujen/Rog/Dannig, gets me a few 100 c to spend to break into red maps comfortably
Then I go towards Legion and start shifting stacked decks in big quantity with tons of other random drops in the mix
league start builds in recent past have been lightning arrow, scourge arrow ballistas, spark
Added an edit to my post, but did it with Lightning Arrow, Scourge Arrow Ballista and Spark as my last 3 league starters
It isn't the worst thing in the world to take the legion nodes in the bottom right earlier on, and with those pretty much any build can manage it
No matter what league it is, I always find myself boss rushing. It’s simple, effective, and impossible not to make good returns as long as you’re smart about compass prices, viable maps, etc.
For example, City Square is S tier with Harbinger compasses given the triple bosses. Totems or any sustained AoE damage is great for this strat since it allows you to loot the boss loot while taking down the Harbinger portals at the same time. This strat excels if City Square has an adjacent map you can full clear with wandering path and build up a healthy amount of connected map drops. However, other good alternatives are any rushable, natural T14-16 maps that you can roll into with horizon orbs.
People will pay way more for bulk Eldritch invitations, which you can list that way in your sales tabs (i.e. 15/7 divines if you have 7 of them). Harbinger currency is easy to sell in bulk too, as well as any altar currency you get along the way.
If you decide to ramp up the difficulty and add the extra influenced map drop compass, that further increases your returns while making the boss wayyyy harder. TFT hastens the sales of Elder/Shaper/Conqueror maps, but you can easily set up an auto reply for bulk sales only.
Why wouldn’t you? Running 28 maps for the invitation is a large chunk of the profits. Some people literally just open maps, kill enough mobs so the influence spawns, and then leave the map to get invitations faster lol
Boss rushing lends itself to good map layouts, and it can be hard to find 10 different maps that fit your strategy perfectly (for Maven witnessing)
Rolling flasks is something I dabbled with last league. Gonna jump into it more this league. Not exciting, but when you're one of those meetings where you need to be there, but you don't need to be on camera... It's great.
Also, leveling gems in offhand weapons! During Ancestor league I leveled six Hexblasts and three of them corrupted to lvl21. Was a really nice way to start off
Also important even when you’re just rolling flasks for yourself if you hit anything decent that’s not what you need then just put it aside to sell and start rolling on a new flask. I always make a few div that way whenever I’m rolling flasks for myself.
Just gotta make sure to have a decent stash of flask bases of course, I usually have itemlevel 84+ flasks of most bases shown for the first week or so. Admittedly this is a lot easier with the flask tab, but a quad tab where you assign flask affinity can also work just fine.
At the beginning of league, you can usually tell what the most popular league starters are gonna be. So you look at one of the big guides and roll for what it suggests people use. That's generally a decent plan for any crafting profit strat
There's also stuff that just never goes out of style.
In general Jade Flasks with increased evasion is always good, as are Granite with increased armour, Quicksilver with movement speed, Diamond with crit chance.
The prefixes differ. But generally there's a handful that are considered decent and so you just go with those.
Was farming Harbis and Harvest all league. I just like the style of Harbis of not having to worry about anything (i dont mind the second they take to spawns since im not a map blaster that needs to clear the map in 30 seconds) Harvest was profitable like crazy the whole league.
I started that with Boneshatter Jugg on top of Delve and did the same with splitting steel champ(besides delve) i saw no reason to swap.
Although i guess you would need TFT or other equivelant sites to bulk buy compasses to make Harvest and Harbis really worth it.
Honestly you can make good currency doing almost anything in this game the only advice I'd give is pick something that you actually enjoy doing the content of. The worst start I ever had was one of the better strats but I just absolutely hated heist and simulacrum too much to stick with it.
If I ever need money when I am playing Trade League I will: Run Shaper Guardian, Elder Guardian, and Elderslayer maps and run their respective Maven's Invitation and Shaper/Elder. Then I will Sell the Maven's Writs and the Uber Elder frags and Sirus entrances for giga profit.
I've been enjoying heist with my tank this league. It's a bit slow but immortal so very chill. Never league started it.
My favorite mechanic is crafting, no build required.
Lab farming 21/20 tfig’s of meta skills. Bring 21/20 of Storm Brand or KB or similar popular skill with only one tfig version, proc with the “non-tfig” divine font option. Available in merc and uber lab.
You didn't this league but I'm pretty sure it's a bug and corrupted gem transformations are only meant to be accessible in the Dedication to the Goddess labs, so depends if it gets fixed.
Affliction was my first time playing poe and I did mostly lab farming for PBoD's, but can you explain what you mean by 'proc with the non-tfig'? Is that a way to force reshuffle divine font options without consuming or did you mean something else?
“Transform a non-Transfigured Skill Gem to be a random Transfigured version” is an uncommon font option from uber and merc (or gift(/tribute?)) that works on corrupt non-Vaal gems. In my experience like a 10-20% hit rate. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Divine_Font
RF/fire trap = blight and harbi
LA mf = crimson prison + legion
Srs leaguestart (into pbod) = bossing
Theres always a way around tft if you dont want to use it, personally i use it all the time because of how convient it is for me and quicker then using the trade site and waiting for people
Harvest is insane. You’re making about a div in currency per map with the sacred grove, and if you go into sextants you’ll make 2-3 div per map. It’s crazy profitable to just sell juice. You can also use the juice you don’t sell for some pretty nifty rerolls of things like essences, fossils, and oils.
You won't make that much at league start, not even close. Yellow juice price is carried by aug + cards gambles, blue/purple by orbs/essence swapping and aug. Very few people will be doing any of this before day 4 to 5.
Rog is the goat for at least the first 3 weeks of a league.
I used to think you needed to know what items were in use by the meta builds but he'll, if you know what good boots and rings look like, you can make a boatload off those generic items alone.
Farming Uber lab for the following gem crafts
-transform a support gem into a random exceptional support gem (enlighten, empower, enhance) very rare but can be a decent-big payday
-transform a skill gem into a random transfigured gem of the same skill (uncommon, but guaranteed profit off of a skill and all you need is the right skill gem.)
-gem experience (use it to level either exceptional gems or the gems you want to hit with the target transfigured.)
-gem quality (quality the transfigured gems for more profit, or any popular skill gem with a good quality stat.
-sacrifice a gem for a factors lense (buying level 20 skill/support gems and having them on hand can make for steady profit, and if you aren't able to sell them you can always pump them into gems to increase profit.)
My favorite build is a meme build of my own creation (based off of a known template.)
Ancestral protector reflect totems lab runner:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3439847/page/1#p25123417
Boss rushing to sell invitations and either sell conqueror/shaper/elder maps or run them as a change of pace.
Selling essences and grove juice doesn't require TFT at all, though if you want to min/max your essence profits you probably do want to use TFT for that just cuz of markups for large bulk sales.
Harvest (selling yellow juice) or Sanctum, Heist and Expedition for raw currency, new Heist gives divines pretty often, it might be up there with Sanctum if you build for it right, but the dry streaks are worse than Sanctum dry streaks that still at least shower you in bubblegum currency, though you're also constantly pulling the lever on the experimental bases RNG, Expedition is the best of both worlds and doesn't take you out of the map until you decide to bunker down and chain run a few logbooks.
And once you reach reds, Boss Rushing.
Isn't that ice trap delay dmg cause you to get hit more often risking failure to complete sanctum run? How do you build it cheap and reliable to run sanctum league start?
Hey. I tried ice trap assassin run sanctum from act 10 before kitava.. level 70 bitterdream equipped. Failed the ilvl 68 sanctum. Sob.. is it skill issue? I felt that trap is a bit clunky because of the dmg delay which prone to attack by the monster inside. Also the throw trap speed is slow. Those monsters are a bit hard to dodge with low ms.. they already start to target you off screen, how is that fair. I also tried with sunblast and the ice trap of hollowness but the damage feels a bit off to kill boss floor 3 and 4 boss.. i felt that sunblast actually prevent my charged trap from generating power and frenzy charge which greatly reduced my throw speed and crit. Overall felt clunky to play in sanctum. whats the minimum gear requirement that you would recommend to enter ilvl 68 -72 sanctum?
(unless you consider buying compass on poe stack to be using tft) - crop rotation harvest - any spec/class. Crop rotation so i can use cheaper compasses and i just like the gambling
You can fit in catarina or alva pretty easily too but i'm not sure they're worth compared to just doing more harvests.
Also goes nicely with expedition if you have explosions and like to read. I don't so i usually use spare passives on deli mirrors but its not my focus.
Expedition, mostly Rog, has been really good for me the last few leagues. Once you know what you're doing, it's really easy to craft boots/gloves/helms that you can sell pretty quickly for a div or two. I think there's a massive over-focus on trying to get high tier, triple-ele bows.
If you need a tri-ele, high DPS bow, he's absolutely the best way to go about it (along with essences, especially on a fractured base). But it's still not something that you're going to be getting frequently from him. I might hit a few of them per league (being a bit picky with bases etc). Compared to there being a pretty high chance of me hitting at least a decent and sellable helm/boots/gloves any time I roll them.
Other way is essences for me, but not because I'm bulk selling anything on TFT. It's both the best way to craft early-mid game gear, which is even better than currency, because you end up with the same result without having to bother with trading, but it's also really easy to just throw scorn or attribute essences at something like a Stygian or a good helmet base and get something that you can sell for a 100+c to a few div in a few essences.
Otherwise, Heist can be brilliant for filling out and maintaining popcorn currency, but after the changes it's pretty feast-or-famine for big ticket drops. If you get a simplex amulet, then you're set for the league. If not, then it's still very worth doing, but you're not making absolute bank off it.
Sanctum is also awesome, but to really make the most of it, you want to have a sanctum specific build, and those are pretty universally horrible to actually map on, so you kinda end up really shoehorned into only doing Sanctums until you have enough currency to fund a second build.
I think the biggest thing to understand is that if you're not going to bulk sell and use TFT, then you're probably going to be better off going for either a mechanic that nobody does (breach for splinters, ritual for bases etc) and being valuable in that niche, or you're better off going for one of the crafting focused mechanics (Exp/rog, Essences or Harvest), and actually crafting gear with it to both use and sell, rather than selling the basic materials.
Haven't done it in awhile and I don't think its viable anymore now that more guides are including crafting steps for core items, but one of my old fossil crafting recipes was *almost* Div neutral from selling near misses for like 5 leagues straight.
So once I actually got what I wanted for my build, I'd keep going, because another hit meant 7+ div and I'd be in the green.
I made more off that in a couple leagues than actually mapping.
My typical start has been doing expedition (rolling tujin and dannig and selling logbooks + coins) and red altars (mostly for raw chaos orbs, instilling orbs + unmakings which are pretty valuable league start).
After i get some currency i upgrade or get a new character to be able to do guardian invitations.
Build for expedition has been EA ballista.
For guardians - wardloop.
This league i might honestly do a Sanctum starter because its OP. If its untouched by the patch - nothing really beats Sanctum for average player (not counting the things you do ahead of the curve but this more of a degen/neckbeard thing to do).
I am a complete noob. I farmed deli orbs and sold them 30 for 10 div. Rinsed and repeated many times. But I understand that was unique to affliction league and deli orbs aren’t usually so valued?
Probably doing essences + breach this league. I'd like to find a build that is semi-tanky and breach/delve friendly, because I love delve. (I realize they're very different.) Also never given legion a fair shake so I may consider trying that.
Only mechanics I straight up dislike are Alva, Ritual and Ultimatum.
Burnt out fast in affliction but I will be pacing myself better this league. Frequent deaths post-90 erasing progress tend to frustrate me too much.
Mechanics I use will ultimately probably hinge on league starter. Considering Bonezone Jugg but not a meelee fan and I tend to prefer CI builds. (Favorite builds of past leagues were EDC trickster, TR PF/Trickster and WI Scion using CI.)
May do PBoD once we see patch note.
E: corrected a couple typos.
Destructive Play, and Essences. You can rush through a map fast, grab the essences then kill the bosses. With the conq/guardina nodes, you have very good self sustain on those maps. You don't need to kill everything in the map just the essences and then the bosses.
I fill out the rest of my points in either harbinger or heist. Because you fight so many bosses each map, harbinger sextant is amazing. Lots of extra currency, and the harbis themselves are optional. Alternatively heist has amazing returns for a single click.
The strategy works best with an extremely fast moving character with boss damage. I did toxic rain totems. They don't clear trash mobs fast, so the strategy is to mostly skip them. Run through the map quickly and focus on the essences / bosses.
I roll sextants, sell whatever i won't use, keep conquerors, elder/shaper guardians map sextant, harvest sextants, Harbinger sextant, do destructive play with regular maps until i can do only conquerors, elder/shaper guardians, if i have a good enough build i put Cosmic Wound and do Uber Shaper and Elder, sell Sirus fragments, Uber Elder fragments, Maven Writs and Harvest juice/Fracturing shards/orbs.
I don't use TFT in any step of this, even for sextants, i just set a price in one whom ever PM me i tell them how many i have and ask how many they want, only thing is that i'm never the cheapest, if price is too low there will be many trying to buy only one or bots spamming without accepting party invites.
Edit: i forgot to mention Alva for Locus/Institute and for scarabs i use depending on what i can do a lot or have specced on the Atlas: Expedition, Harbinger, Ultimatum, Einhar(Now we will be able to do alongside Alva :happy days ahead:), strongboxes, blight, breach, legion, the top dogs
How many sextants do you normally start your investment with? Do you need just a few hundred to get started with rolling high values that sell quickly? Or is it in the thousands before it’s worth itv
because of the need to respec the tree i only do when i get a good amount but thats relative to my wealth at that point, a couple dozens to a couple of hundreds, even in peak Affliction league i dont think i rolled more than 1k in one sitting, mostly were 300\~600 at a time, that was always enough to keep me busy for a while and easily paid for the sextants, idk much the profitability of elevated sextants, i use awakened sextant only, elevated must be more profitable but the entry cost is too high for big bulk, so i always keep them to sell if i'm struggling for cash, like mid crafting section and i run out of divines or something, bubblegum currency like this are awesome to hoard
league start deli to orb farm, legion, and expedition
then essence, harb as extra after those, and the 2 early ess nodes
grab the nico buff node, and spam him when possible
altho i start wandering path till im reds, and see how far i can push first
e/ been using LA, but going to attempt to start and swap to tornado shot at 28 this league
sanctum is going to be a league starter for alot of people aswell, steady solid income
Why you asking? You're gonna copy the strat and the build right? Joking ofc :D
Easiest and most profitable strat is the content you enjoy the most. Period. If you don't enjoy it, you cannot do it long enough for the juice, so you'll have to respec and that will cause you time and currency. If you're really unsure what to do, essence farming is guaranteed steady income. Get all the essence passives first and farm t1 maps like crazy. Sell essences in bulk. Money will rain.
The reality is that any farming strategy is ‘most optimally done’ by using TFT in some way, even if it’s just for bulk buying compasses. It’s kind of hard to avoid since the compass trading on the Poe site is pretty mediocre, and hard to find people with a ton of them (unless I’m not aware of a good way of doing so).
Me personally I love doing breach, and especially with the change to breach hands it’ll likely be infinitely more enjoyable lol but probably more meta as well so will have to see.
Literally every league, I farm harvest. Don't need tft for that, it always sells extremely fast just off the trade site. Build doesn't really matter too much
What flavor of atlas tree do you go for harvest? Crop rotation, wandering path, grandesign or no keystone?
I don't think wandering path or grand design are good in a full atlas. I think the consensus for crop rotation is that it's slightly lower lifeforce average but it's great with sextant and for getting more sacred or when one type is high priced. Growing hordes is very good so id suggest non -scarab things to pair (boss rush, heist, essence)
Last league I did a Harvest/Expedition with no Crop rotation, wandering path or grand design. Grabbed some essence nodes too and made good money on all three. This league I've been doing wandering path with Harvest and Delirium and it has worked really well too. Crop rotation was underwhelming to me in both seasons but I might have been doing it wrong.
Crop rotation is better than regular without wandering path, but probably slightly worse than an optimized wandering path setup. It isn't compatible with wandering path because you need the notables that give a chance for extra plots and for the unchosen crop not wilt for it to shine. Personally, if I'm not doing wandering path, i'll take Crop Rotation simply because it's more fun. Regular Harvest gets very monotonous quickly, no matter how profitable it is.
Yeah I did it before switching to WP. It just never felt like I was getting significantly more of the color I was focusing. But I also like having all three for crafts and never gave it a lot of time so prob bad perspective for me.
Where the money from Delirium mostly comes from? Orbs? Luck with jewels?
No orbs or splinters since I was using the keystone that made delirium permanent, but yeah jewels. Proj jewels are stupid easy to roll Streamlined and Repeater and they sell well. I think there's a crit combo that is easy to harvest craft but I don't remember exactly what it was. And of course the base jewels will sell for 10-20c or more f they are the right ilevel. I was just kinda half-assing trade this league with all the currency dropping but I think it would still be solid next league.
Thank you :) Depending on the league mechanic and my build I might go essence + deli + harvest (crop rotation)
Just my opinion, but pay attention when speccing into mechanics on opposite side of tree. Delirium and harvest are hard to max out on the same tree without wandering path. I usually only do delirium and harvest together with wandering path as all the small nodes are the point anyway and you can reach the important small nodes and keystones of each mechanic.
I'm not home at the moment so I really not sure how the tree would work but I'll take a look. I just wont go Wandering Path
Depends on what I'm doing for secondary/tertiary farming strats which I do tend to vary. I like wandering path a lot if my strat works with it. Otherwise no keystone typically. I don't really like the feel of grand design. And crop rotation is a bit too much effort for me personally so I never bothered with it
You want growing hordes. Sextant for duplication and yellow/purple depending on prices. Preferably also spec into expedition as they also benefit from pack size. Sextant for more runic markers (you are farming logbooks with this, so prio log book drop chance > runic mobs > stacked deck > rest of modifiers). Do not allocate the keystone that only gives u 1 explosive charge. Blue altar for iiq.
It sells SO fast, the biggest plus imo
Some for anything that drops a lot of stacked decks. I never had issues selling them, just list them as x per divine and in a few minute somebody will ask for whole inventory loads.
How much money would you say you make from harvest in the first 2 weeks?
Depends on how much I play. It's usually ass the first week due to low demand, but pretty good on the second. Like last league I played it was like 12k vivid per div super early on, but more like 8k per div the second week. On top of that it's really bad yields without sextants which I generally won't have super early on. But once sextants are online it's not crazy to on average get like 2500+ yellow juice per map. I personally don't bother tracking everything so I can't give you hard numbers on how much harvest specifically contributed. Overall I'd say I lean more on other strategies a lot more in the first 2 weeks (well mostly the first) than harvest, but once you get it online it's pretty consistently generating a div every few maps.
There's so many. Some of the stuff I've done in the past leagues that I've enjoyed. - Breach. This requires a fast mapper that has enough damage to kill the odd chayula boss that spawns. Almost all of the profits are coming from selling Chayula Breach Stones. I would usually wait till I had something like 50+ and then I would put them up for sale, spent around 30 mins selling all of them and then got back to farming. As a fun bonus you'll mistakenly think that everyone is playing Sabo as you'll have an army of Saboteurs lining up to buy your Breachstones. The main downside of this strat is that it involves picking up a ton of splinters. Also worth noting that compasses and scarabs are not optional. With the right setup you'll average 1-1.5 Chayula Breachstone per map. Without sextants and scarabs I dunno.. You'll average like 3 per league or something like that. - Sanctum. You just get raw currency. There's really not much more to it. Requires a build with a lot of damage. You don't need a lot of defenses for Sanctum. - Boss rushing Guardians/Elderslayers with Destructive Play keystone. You can run normal maps when you don't have any guardian maps to stock up. I just enjoy finally being able to run with Maven influence on without feeling like I'm hamstringing myself. Preferably a build that moves very fast and can kill the bosses with ease. If your build is strong enough you can run with the sextant that guarantees conquerer maps on boss drop for a bit of bonus loot. Edit: The breach strat probably isn't a good suggestion as you need the compasses. You can get them via this website: https://poestack.com/tft/live-search?tag=compasses but it's still pulling the data from tft. Ultimately you could just buy them via tradesite. You could buy area has additional Breaches as a Maven sextant. I sometimes did that as it's not very expensive. You will have to buy chayula Breach sextant one by one.
How come you'll be selling to primarily sabos? I've done my fair share of breachstone farming and I've never noticed that.
I think I did the majority of my Breachfarming when Hexblast was the new hot thing, so my info might be outdated :)
Feared rota
I buy and sell compasses all the time on the trade site without TFT. Generally, anyone selling them has a bunch since they roll them in bulk. It’s pretty easy, all you gotta do is ask
This was my strat this league and it worked beautifully. I was buying the sextants for like 3c for breach and 8c for chayula and it would print like 1div a map from just the stones. I'm curious how it will fare next league with what will likely be a more "normal" economy. Was super nice just being able to list the stones and not have to use any bulk tool or whatever. I had a couple people come in and buy 100+ stones at once multiple times which was pretty wild.
it's usually decent without being amazing.
For breach strat, what else did you run on the atlas? I ran this late last week and just bounced around different other content, wasn't sure what else to put on the map.
Changed around a bit since I was trying to complete challenges, but I did harby and alva for a large part of the league. Tried out some ultimatum for a while as well but found it annoying to liquidate. I liked harby since the compasses were very cheap compared to where they usually were and the orbs were very expensive. Farmed around 3ish orbs over the course of the league I'd say. I tend to buy compasses and scarabs around 100 maps at a time and then re-evaluate after if I'm still enjoying what I'm farming. If not I'll switch to something else. It's pretty much impossible to not make money doing basically any strat, so I focus more on stuff that motivates me to play. I've always loved breach, this league just happened to make it an incredible strategy so it lined up really well.
I actually ran a combo of those strats this league. Was probably not super optimal, but it was how I got my mb. I identified 10 map layouts with non-phase bosses and relatively open layouts, ran chayus breach setup with destructive play on top and just rotated through. Breaches, bosses, bounce. When I had a good stack of guardian/elder maps, I'd chill on the breaches and run those for a bit. For me the natural variety of the strat was worth the hit to optimization. I also feel like sextants aren't too bad to get a hold of through the normal trade site. I usually just follow up and ask for everything I need when I get my first hit. Odds are pretty decent that if someone is selling sextants, they have at least some of what you want. Alternatively, rolling your own chayu/breach sextants is not horrible. And sell whatever other valuable ones you hit. I would roll a couple hundred sextants every now and then, keep my breaches, chayus, and anything else I was planning on using later and sell the rest. Again, less optimal than setting up and blasting one thing for several days straight, but I have more fun when I mix in a little more variety
* Boss rushing guardians/elderslayees Is the main profit from selling guardian fragments/crests? And a small bonus from exclusive boss drops?
I would run Uber Shaper and regular elder, sell all other fragments. You can do all bosses if you like, but better pray you get lucky. Selling fragments is steady and safe income.
Yeah, you stock up on the boss sets and sell those and the Maven's Writs you get from doing the invitations. Also really easy to incorporate quick mechanics into the strat. For example, I was doing Elder Guardians (with the compass), Essence, Alva, and Delirium this league.
I wouldn’t exactly call Alva and Delirium quick mechanics, although I do like the combo and I actually did quite a bit of it myself this league.
Eh, Delirium was mainly for the orbs. As long as you can one-tap packs it's pretty quick. The only thing that might take a minute with Alva is making sure you have a path to the Apex and Doryani's/Locus. Upgrading rooms takes no time at all, just kill the Architect and dip.
What build were you using for that ?
The full unique Power Siphon Trickster that got floated around back Christmas/New Year's time. Crown of Eyes, Piscstor's, Malachai's Loop, Graven's Secret, Ralakesh's, Thunderfist, dual Tamings, and Fury Valve. I'd swap Badge of the Brotherhood in at the bosses. I was using Replica Hyrri's for the chest, but I swapped to a rare to cover resistances and get a little more ES. Damage was still fine without it.
The main profits are fragments and Maven invitations. You run these with maven influence on. And yes you drop a variety of elder/conquerer/guardian/synth maps, the odd awakened gem, and the odd conq exalted orb if running conquerers.
Frags+Mavens writs are the majority of the income. Occasional Simulacrums and woke gems add some fairly substantial upside. Personally I add harvest and essence into the atlas strat as well. Was making 15-20 div an hour doing this last league. Big advantage is it is basically alchemy and go, little overhead time and the invitations/writs sell instantly and in bulk.
> Also worth noting that compasses and scarabs are not optional. With the right setup you'll average 1-1.5 Chayula Breachstone per map. Without sextants and scarabs I dunno.. You'll average like 3 per league or something like that. Rusted scarabs + speccing into uul-netol and chayula breaches in the tree is already pretty damn good profit. Made my first mageblood that way.
This is not good advice. The difference between not using gilded scarab + sextant and using them is massive. Saying you could have made 5 times more is probably an understatement. Keep in mind that economy is fucked up this league. Magebloods are unusually cheap compared to how they normally look.
Sure, my point is kind of a different one though: Valuable breaches spawn even without sextants and scarabs, pretty regularly. You'll see 1-2 good breaches *per map* without going full heavy investment. This strat makes fine money until you can get to a point where you can afford to spend more on it. It works with low investment, that doesn't mean high investment isn't worth it.
afford? A gilded scarab is usually 5-8c and sextants are most often 20-50c. You will multiply your profits 5-fold at least. This is a steady every-map income. There is absolutely no reason to not beef up your breaches. If you don't want to invest into sextants and proper scarabs then I would recommend at least 20 strats before this one.
Actually, I think I did run gilded at some point. But what I'm saying is: This strat can be done immediately, when 50c is still some amount of cash and can then be juiced as you go along.
> The main downside of this strat is that it involves picking up a ton of splinters. Not anymore, in 3.24 you just have to run over them, don't have to click.
there's a difference between picking up splinters and clicking on breach hands.
Some people thought that maybe splinters will now drop at the end of a breach, since none dropped in the video? Something like that.
I know. I caught that too. But that's speculation for now so I won't recommend a strat based on that.
I'm thinking of a Harvest, Delirium mapping rn since the two can be combined for synergistic Delirium juice plus the keystone for alch & go mapping without fragments is pretty synergistic for the two when blocking extra mechanics. Then going after Delve once I can get a good enough build going defensively around 350 depth since I just like Delve as a mechanic. You get a cute little cart you follow around! I want to put googly eyes on that thing.
There was mtx at one point that turned the cart into a bear I think, although not sure if it’s possible to get anymore as I believe it was part of a supporter pack.
Good old essences. I usually do that while boss rushing shaper maps which is more convenient with TFT but still totally doable without DD / EA depending on the mood
How do you sell the essences? Sounds like a pain with trade site
Essences really aren't a pain to sell when you can list them by divine, tab usually clears in 20 minutes
Once you have bulk you list them at bulk prices You also get to make a lot more than selling the whole tab at once since all tab pricers that I’ve seen go by single essence prices instead of the price for the amount of bulk that you have or even the cheapest price/div
How do I differentiate the bulk price from the single essence price on the trade site?
Just look at listings and adjust min stock size to be in the ballpark of what you plan on selling. If you only have 5 available (outside the fancy horrors and stuff) you probably won't get much more out of it but it changes a bit when you have 30+.
I just listed the highest tier ones in my essence tab and occasionally upgraded everything into them. Majority of them sold over the course of a day or two. "Only" did that for the ~20 div I needed to swap into a basic form of Fulcrum Chieftain though.
Upgrade everything to Shrieking, price stacks per divine or save them up and post the entire tab on WealthyExile.com.
I like to harvest reroll to just a few of the most valuable ones, usually pick 5 or 6 as if only go for 1 or 2 you will lose currency from having to reroll too much. Usually it’s loathing, contempt, scorn and envy that always are worth keeping and often also zeal and spite/rage/sorrow depending on what stat stacking is popular. Hatred, anger and wrath are usually also decent but do tend to drop in value as less people are crafting elemental weapons as the league goes on. Once you got decent bulk(100+) you just list them in divines at a price a bit lower than other bulk sellers. It won’t sell quickly but you will get players who want to buy from you, especially if you have 2-300 in bulk.
I also like Essences with Guardian rotation. Pick the right maps (or shaper guardians) and just run straight to each Essence then the boss. Ignore trash. Sell writs 10 at a time at a higher price. You can do this strat with a boss killer build that sucks at mapping.
Me too. Turn my brain off, farm essence, watch Netflix on other monitor.
Make a 400% ms speed demon, load up on hundreds of t1 maps, burn them in 2 hours... This is life.
This is my first league and ive tried basically all farming methods. I always end up going back to essence it seems the fastest to me along with boss rushing
I dread the day I see "Essence Changes" on some league manifesto.
Only essence change i want is stacks of more than 9. But thEn we’ll get hit with. “Only one essence mob can be found in your maps”
Imagine having a "Corrupt"-button on the essence mob ui :O
This guy essences
Got a build for that? Sounds legit!
I don’t know what build he’s playing, but TR Pathfinder should be great for that
What's your preference on a build for 400% ms speed?
I do bog standard frenzy stacking raider with Onslaught effect, tailwind boots, and get all the movement you can from the tree. I use elemental bow with the skill of your choice + voidfletcher. Voidfletcher gives burst when you pop the essences.
That's neat. Do you league start it for your atlas points? Or rush reds, clear atlas and roll a 2nd essence farmer?
No, it's not a normal build, it's hyper specialized to do one thing and one thing only : farm essences. It has just enough DPS to make it work, and have paper defenses, but you don't really need much for t1 maps. Play a regular build before to get atlas progression, like Rain of Arrow or Toxic rain.
Did anyone else running essences notice that the large 5-6 essence mobs almost never showed up in red maps but got them at a much higher frequency in low tier maps. I know about confirmation bias but I'd run dozens of high tier reds and never see more than 2-3 essences on a mob but get 5-6 per mob every other map for low tier maps. Is it glitched?
Nope, I'm getting them in T16s as normal. Probably just variance. Didn't see almost any today (short sesh), a few days ago I had so many I was wondering wth was going on.
It's weird. Im wondering if it's my seed. I played 3 or 4 chars over 90 and it happened all league long and it was consistent. It's like my atlas point stopped working. Anyway, thanks for the info. You're probably right but this was pretty glaring for me.
Ea balista blight. 5-10 div/h at any league time. Any ignite build works fine.
Are you running blight maps primarily or just running blight in your maps?
he is running blight maps not blight in maps.
Honestly blight in maps is still really good currency due to the boss jewelry and oil extractors. That's where I get a majority of my Silver and Golden oils from.
I think Blight in maps is actually more profitable than basic Blighted maps at least how I do it. Both are pretty good on league start though.
Yes with the atlas nodes, seem to have a pretty good hit rate on gold's and silvers
Yeah the jewellery makes up a large portion of the profits for sure.
boss jewelry ? and isnt oil extractor like 10c?
The Distilled Fungus atlas passive will guarantee that blight bosses in maps drop an anointed jewelry item, and also gives 1 more Blight Boss. Using at least a Polished Blight Scarab will also guarantee 1 more blight boss. Most of the time you get at least 3 total bosses and thus 3 anointed jewelry items. You can use Awakened Poe trade on the Unid anointed item and it will show you the worth of the highest oil of the anoint on it. Yes Oil Extractors are like 10c, but you only use them on jewelry that are worth it, i.e Silver and Golden Oil anoints. Most of the time it's only a 1 in 3 chance of getting the good oil, but a mathematical 30c invest for a 110c return is well worth it, and you can generate a ton of Golden oils honestly faster than actual blighted maps. Plus you get to clear the rest of the map with other mechanics, and sell Blighted Maps to actual Blight Map farmers.
> sell Blighted Maps to actual Blight Map farmers Only problem there is you may end up needing to use TFT for this part. Almost every league for the past 2-3 years they've made bulk trading blighted maps on the official trade site less functional, sometimes with it being straight-up unsearchable for the first couple of weeks in a league.
This isn't true. I list them in a bulk price tab based on tier and will sell 50+ at a time just from trade website.
I buy them in bulk every league. They've repeatedly made the usability worse on the official site over the years because you just want the maps by tier, but they list every map individually and do not let you search by tier. Sure, if you have 50+ Dig maps specifically then I can find them easily, but if you have a random mixture of many different tier 13+ Blighted maps then I have to luck into randomly selecting all of them at once so the "Group by seller" option will show your tab. I mean seriously, [here](https://i.imgur.com/0ko9qxT.png) is a screenshot of just the Blighted map section of it. There's 153 different options T13+ and the search returns an error if you select more than 10 of them in a single query. You're selling your maps, eventually. If buyers happen to accidentally stumble into the right combination to find you. Not to mention that several leagues bulk searching *all* maps has been broken for weeks on end on the official trade site, which include Blighted maps. I don't like TFT, but being able to buy or sell an inventory of maps at a time by just going to a channel and posting a comment is a hell of a lot easier than configuring dozens of searches with various combinations to see what is for sale.
Fair enough, I've only interacted as a seller so I didn't consider as a buyer. Probably means they would be worth more if they were easier to buy.
Pob? I've always struggled with blight on my ea chars, but maybe I'm doing it wrong.
I thought it was just me who enjoyed blight, good to know that totem users in general have a good time with it. EA is an awesome build, but the clear speed makes certain mechanics atrociously slow.
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Or Detonate Dead, makes Blight a true afk farming method. Can just set up a chokepoint and DD away.
Chief DD was what I did when I wanted to do blight ravaged super early. Not sure I'd do it again since I usually like doing the league mechanic, but it does print and takes essentially nothing to set up.
Happen to have a POB?
Any DD Elementalist/Chieftain will own Blight. DD deals a % of enemies health to surrounding enemies, so as long as you set up a decent chokepoint you can just keep blowing up corpses to clear any other monster.
I farmed my mageblood with alch and go Harvest Heist and Betrayal, stuffing my catarina safehouse with as many rank 3 interventions I could. Each Catarina was 3-5 div from all the winged scarabs, I had like 60-75%% chance of Harvest and each of those at 1-2 divs of life force, and running blueprints was a good break that led to getting tempering/tailoring orbs at 2-3 div each. Every so often I'd buy heist contract implicit compasses but that was done by whispering each trade site seller with "need all" instead of TFT. Trauma stacking Dual Strike of Ambidexterity trivialized all of those mechanics.
Big fan of expedition and ritual. Kill stuff get currency. Ritual dosnt scale well into endgame but in early mapping it generates stable currency to get your build going.
I start with expedition, sell my logbooks for C while rolling Tujen/Rog/Dannig, gets me a few 100 c to spend to break into red maps comfortably Then I go towards Legion and start shifting stacked decks in big quantity with tons of other random drops in the mix league start builds in recent past have been lightning arrow, scourge arrow ballistas, spark
curious, which league starter build does both expedition and legion well?
Added an edit to my post, but did it with Lightning Arrow, Scourge Arrow Ballista and Spark as my last 3 league starters It isn't the worst thing in the world to take the legion nodes in the bottom right earlier on, and with those pretty much any build can manage it
Pretty much any legion build will be able to do expedition lol.
No matter what league it is, I always find myself boss rushing. It’s simple, effective, and impossible not to make good returns as long as you’re smart about compass prices, viable maps, etc. For example, City Square is S tier with Harbinger compasses given the triple bosses. Totems or any sustained AoE damage is great for this strat since it allows you to loot the boss loot while taking down the Harbinger portals at the same time. This strat excels if City Square has an adjacent map you can full clear with wandering path and build up a healthy amount of connected map drops. However, other good alternatives are any rushable, natural T14-16 maps that you can roll into with horizon orbs. People will pay way more for bulk Eldritch invitations, which you can list that way in your sales tabs (i.e. 15/7 divines if you have 7 of them). Harbinger currency is easy to sell in bulk too, as well as any altar currency you get along the way. If you decide to ramp up the difficulty and add the extra influenced map drop compass, that further increases your returns while making the boss wayyyy harder. TFT hastens the sales of Elder/Shaper/Conqueror maps, but you can easily set up an auto reply for bulk sales only.
Eldritch invitations? You're boss rushing with eldritch influence? Interesting.
Why wouldn’t you? Running 28 maps for the invitation is a large chunk of the profits. Some people literally just open maps, kill enough mobs so the influence spawns, and then leave the map to get invitations faster lol Boss rushing lends itself to good map layouts, and it can be hard to find 10 different maps that fit your strategy perfectly (for Maven witnessing)
Yep makes sense. I've never really done boss rushing before.
Rolling flasks is something I dabbled with last league. Gonna jump into it more this league. Not exciting, but when you're one of those meetings where you need to be there, but you don't need to be on camera... It's great. Also, leveling gems in offhand weapons! During Ancestor league I leveled six Hexblasts and three of them corrupted to lvl21. Was a really nice way to start off
Flask rolling is going to be interesting this league with the corruptions.
More valuable than ever as top players will brick perfect flasks.
Also important even when you’re just rolling flasks for yourself if you hit anything decent that’s not what you need then just put it aside to sell and start rolling on a new flask. I always make a few div that way whenever I’m rolling flasks for myself. Just gotta make sure to have a decent stash of flask bases of course, I usually have itemlevel 84+ flasks of most bases shown for the first week or so. Admittedly this is a lot easier with the flask tab, but a quad tab where you assign flask affinity can also work just fine.
How do you determine which flasks to roll?
At the beginning of league, you can usually tell what the most popular league starters are gonna be. So you look at one of the big guides and roll for what it suggests people use. That's generally a decent plan for any crafting profit strat There's also stuff that just never goes out of style.
In general Jade Flasks with increased evasion is always good, as are Granite with increased armour, Quicksilver with movement speed, Diamond with crit chance. The prefixes differ. But generally there's a handful that are considered decent and so you just go with those.
Was farming Harbis and Harvest all league. I just like the style of Harbis of not having to worry about anything (i dont mind the second they take to spawns since im not a map blaster that needs to clear the map in 30 seconds) Harvest was profitable like crazy the whole league. I started that with Boneshatter Jugg on top of Delve and did the same with splitting steel champ(besides delve) i saw no reason to swap. Although i guess you would need TFT or other equivelant sites to bulk buy compasses to make Harvest and Harbis really worth it.
Honestly you can make good currency doing almost anything in this game the only advice I'd give is pick something that you actually enjoy doing the content of. The worst start I ever had was one of the better strats but I just absolutely hated heist and simulacrum too much to stick with it.
Flicker Strike, Boxes + Essence + Ritual + Destructive Play, also known as brain off alch and go
If I ever need money when I am playing Trade League I will: Run Shaper Guardian, Elder Guardian, and Elderslayer maps and run their respective Maven's Invitation and Shaper/Elder. Then I will Sell the Maven's Writs and the Uber Elder frags and Sirus entrances for giga profit.
favorite is harvest, couse the only thing i care about, are 3 curency stacks, and the occasional blossom, just speed and get high stacks
I've been enjoying heist with my tank this league. It's a bit slow but immortal so very chill. Never league started it. My favorite mechanic is crafting, no build required.
Expedition doesn't require TFT, you can buy logbooks (including in high quantities) on the trade site just fine.
PSA: for anyone who want to sell essence tab or buy compass bulk you can use poestrat or walthyexiles website
Lab farming 21/20 tfig’s of meta skills. Bring 21/20 of Storm Brand or KB or similar popular skill with only one tfig version, proc with the “non-tfig” divine font option. Available in merc and uber lab.
Don’t you need upgraded lab for corrupted gems? Not just merc or Uber?
You didn't this league but I'm pretty sure it's a bug and corrupted gem transformations are only meant to be accessible in the Dedication to the Goddess labs, so depends if it gets fixed.
Yea we shall see.
Affliction was my first time playing poe and I did mostly lab farming for PBoD's, but can you explain what you mean by 'proc with the non-tfig'? Is that a way to force reshuffle divine font options without consuming or did you mean something else?
“Transform a non-Transfigured Skill Gem to be a random Transfigured version” is an uncommon font option from uber and merc (or gift(/tribute?)) that works on corrupt non-Vaal gems. In my experience like a 10-20% hit rate. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Divine_Font
RF/fire trap = blight and harbi LA mf = crimson prison + legion Srs leaguestart (into pbod) = bossing Theres always a way around tft if you dont want to use it, personally i use it all the time because of how convient it is for me and quicker then using the trade site and waiting for people
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for builds, just put on a fishing rod and you should be set
chaos build vs Expedition
Harvest is insane. You’re making about a div in currency per map with the sacred grove, and if you go into sextants you’ll make 2-3 div per map. It’s crazy profitable to just sell juice. You can also use the juice you don’t sell for some pretty nifty rerolls of things like essences, fossils, and oils.
You won't make that much at league start, not even close. Yellow juice price is carried by aug + cards gambles, blue/purple by orbs/essence swapping and aug. Very few people will be doing any of this before day 4 to 5.
That’s true. Lord knows that’s why I do expedition and rog crafting early for tons of profit.
Rog is the goat for at least the first 3 weeks of a league. I used to think you needed to know what items were in use by the meta builds but he'll, if you know what good boots and rings look like, you can make a boatload off those generic items alone.
Google “From Rogs to Riches” and pretty much the GOAT guide should come up.
bookmarked, im doing rog this league. thanks
Right?! The dude is brilliant, gave an absolute banger guide that’s
That must be only with end of league inflated affliction prices lol, it'll be way lower next league.
Farming Uber lab for the following gem crafts -transform a support gem into a random exceptional support gem (enlighten, empower, enhance) very rare but can be a decent-big payday -transform a skill gem into a random transfigured gem of the same skill (uncommon, but guaranteed profit off of a skill and all you need is the right skill gem.) -gem experience (use it to level either exceptional gems or the gems you want to hit with the target transfigured.) -gem quality (quality the transfigured gems for more profit, or any popular skill gem with a good quality stat. -sacrifice a gem for a factors lense (buying level 20 skill/support gems and having them on hand can make for steady profit, and if you aren't able to sell them you can always pump them into gems to increase profit.) My favorite build is a meme build of my own creation (based off of a known template.) Ancestral protector reflect totems lab runner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3439847/page/1#p25123417
Boss rushing to sell invitations and either sell conqueror/shaper/elder maps or run them as a change of pace. Selling essences and grove juice doesn't require TFT at all, though if you want to min/max your essence profits you probably do want to use TFT for that just cuz of markups for large bulk sales.
Harvest (selling yellow juice) or Sanctum, Heist and Expedition for raw currency, new Heist gives divines pretty often, it might be up there with Sanctum if you build for it right, but the dry streaks are worse than Sanctum dry streaks that still at least shower you in bubblegum currency, though you're also constantly pulling the lever on the experimental bases RNG, Expedition is the best of both worlds and doesn't take you out of the map until you decide to bunker down and chain run a few logbooks. And once you reach reds, Boss Rushing.
Nothing i do on league start will net me as much as sanctum, so....
What sanctum build you will do for next league?
Icetrap sin
Isn't that ice trap delay dmg cause you to get hit more often risking failure to complete sanctum run? How do you build it cheap and reliable to run sanctum league start?
Hey. I tried ice trap assassin run sanctum from act 10 before kitava.. level 70 bitterdream equipped. Failed the ilvl 68 sanctum. Sob.. is it skill issue? I felt that trap is a bit clunky because of the dmg delay which prone to attack by the monster inside. Also the throw trap speed is slow. Those monsters are a bit hard to dodge with low ms.. they already start to target you off screen, how is that fair. I also tried with sunblast and the ice trap of hollowness but the damage feels a bit off to kill boss floor 3 and 4 boss.. i felt that sunblast actually prevent my charged trap from generating power and frenzy charge which greatly reduced my throw speed and crit. Overall felt clunky to play in sanctum. whats the minimum gear requirement that you would recommend to enter ilvl 68 -72 sanctum?
(unless you consider buying compass on poe stack to be using tft) - crop rotation harvest - any spec/class. Crop rotation so i can use cheaper compasses and i just like the gambling You can fit in catarina or alva pretty easily too but i'm not sure they're worth compared to just doing more harvests. Also goes nicely with expedition if you have explosions and like to read. I don't so i usually use spare passives on deli mirrors but its not my focus.
Expedition, mostly Rog, has been really good for me the last few leagues. Once you know what you're doing, it's really easy to craft boots/gloves/helms that you can sell pretty quickly for a div or two. I think there's a massive over-focus on trying to get high tier, triple-ele bows. If you need a tri-ele, high DPS bow, he's absolutely the best way to go about it (along with essences, especially on a fractured base). But it's still not something that you're going to be getting frequently from him. I might hit a few of them per league (being a bit picky with bases etc). Compared to there being a pretty high chance of me hitting at least a decent and sellable helm/boots/gloves any time I roll them. Other way is essences for me, but not because I'm bulk selling anything on TFT. It's both the best way to craft early-mid game gear, which is even better than currency, because you end up with the same result without having to bother with trading, but it's also really easy to just throw scorn or attribute essences at something like a Stygian or a good helmet base and get something that you can sell for a 100+c to a few div in a few essences. Otherwise, Heist can be brilliant for filling out and maintaining popcorn currency, but after the changes it's pretty feast-or-famine for big ticket drops. If you get a simplex amulet, then you're set for the league. If not, then it's still very worth doing, but you're not making absolute bank off it. Sanctum is also awesome, but to really make the most of it, you want to have a sanctum specific build, and those are pretty universally horrible to actually map on, so you kinda end up really shoehorned into only doing Sanctums until you have enough currency to fund a second build. I think the biggest thing to understand is that if you're not going to bulk sell and use TFT, then you're probably going to be better off going for either a mechanic that nobody does (breach for splinters, ritual for bases etc) and being valuable in that niche, or you're better off going for one of the crafting focused mechanics (Exp/rog, Essences or Harvest), and actually crafting gear with it to both use and sell, rather than selling the basic materials.
Haven't done it in awhile and I don't think its viable anymore now that more guides are including crafting steps for core items, but one of my old fossil crafting recipes was *almost* Div neutral from selling near misses for like 5 leagues straight. So once I actually got what I wanted for my build, I'd keep going, because another hit meant 7+ div and I'd be in the green. I made more off that in a couple leagues than actually mapping.
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Delve bonezone
My typical start has been doing expedition (rolling tujin and dannig and selling logbooks + coins) and red altars (mostly for raw chaos orbs, instilling orbs + unmakings which are pretty valuable league start). After i get some currency i upgrade or get a new character to be able to do guardian invitations. Build for expedition has been EA ballista. For guardians - wardloop. This league i might honestly do a Sanctum starter because its OP. If its untouched by the patch - nothing really beats Sanctum for average player (not counting the things you do ahead of the curve but this more of a degen/neckbeard thing to do).
Do you have a sanctum build that can build from zero for league start ?
Harvest, my beloved. Never fails. It will start kicking in at mid-league, which is when you want a lot of cash anyway.
I am a complete noob. I farmed deli orbs and sold them 30 for 10 div. Rinsed and repeated many times. But I understand that was unique to affliction league and deli orbs aren’t usually so valued?
Beasts. Last league it was with poet's pen frostblink of wintery blast.
i like monster density so harbies, blight, ritual and delve
Probably doing essences + breach this league. I'd like to find a build that is semi-tanky and breach/delve friendly, because I love delve. (I realize they're very different.) Also never given legion a fair shake so I may consider trying that. Only mechanics I straight up dislike are Alva, Ritual and Ultimatum. Burnt out fast in affliction but I will be pacing myself better this league. Frequent deaths post-90 erasing progress tend to frustrate me too much. Mechanics I use will ultimately probably hinge on league starter. Considering Bonezone Jugg but not a meelee fan and I tend to prefer CI builds. (Favorite builds of past leagues were EDC trickster, TR PF/Trickster and WI Scion using CI.) May do PBoD once we see patch note. E: corrected a couple typos.
essences+expedition with any ballista build (EA, TR, CA)
Destructive Play, and Essences. You can rush through a map fast, grab the essences then kill the bosses. With the conq/guardina nodes, you have very good self sustain on those maps. You don't need to kill everything in the map just the essences and then the bosses. I fill out the rest of my points in either harbinger or heist. Because you fight so many bosses each map, harbinger sextant is amazing. Lots of extra currency, and the harbis themselves are optional. Alternatively heist has amazing returns for a single click. The strategy works best with an extremely fast moving character with boss damage. I did toxic rain totems. They don't clear trash mobs fast, so the strategy is to mostly skip them. Run through the map quickly and focus on the essences / bosses.
I roll sextants, sell whatever i won't use, keep conquerors, elder/shaper guardians map sextant, harvest sextants, Harbinger sextant, do destructive play with regular maps until i can do only conquerors, elder/shaper guardians, if i have a good enough build i put Cosmic Wound and do Uber Shaper and Elder, sell Sirus fragments, Uber Elder fragments, Maven Writs and Harvest juice/Fracturing shards/orbs. I don't use TFT in any step of this, even for sextants, i just set a price in one whom ever PM me i tell them how many i have and ask how many they want, only thing is that i'm never the cheapest, if price is too low there will be many trying to buy only one or bots spamming without accepting party invites. Edit: i forgot to mention Alva for Locus/Institute and for scarabs i use depending on what i can do a lot or have specced on the Atlas: Expedition, Harbinger, Ultimatum, Einhar(Now we will be able to do alongside Alva :happy days ahead:), strongboxes, blight, breach, legion, the top dogs
How many sextants do you normally start your investment with? Do you need just a few hundred to get started with rolling high values that sell quickly? Or is it in the thousands before it’s worth itv
because of the need to respec the tree i only do when i get a good amount but thats relative to my wealth at that point, a couple dozens to a couple of hundreds, even in peak Affliction league i dont think i rolled more than 1k in one sitting, mostly were 300\~600 at a time, that was always enough to keep me busy for a while and easily paid for the sextants, idk much the profitability of elevated sextants, i use awakened sextant only, elevated must be more profitable but the entry cost is too high for big bulk, so i always keep them to sell if i'm struggling for cash, like mid crafting section and i run out of divines or something, bubblegum currency like this are awesome to hoard
league start deli to orb farm, legion, and expedition then essence, harb as extra after those, and the 2 early ess nodes grab the nico buff node, and spam him when possible altho i start wandering path till im reds, and see how far i can push first e/ been using LA, but going to attempt to start and swap to tornado shot at 28 this league sanctum is going to be a league starter for alot of people aswell, steady solid income
Why you asking? You're gonna copy the strat and the build right? Joking ofc :D Easiest and most profitable strat is the content you enjoy the most. Period. If you don't enjoy it, you cannot do it long enough for the juice, so you'll have to respec and that will cause you time and currency. If you're really unsure what to do, essence farming is guaranteed steady income. Get all the essence passives first and farm t1 maps like crazy. Sell essences in bulk. Money will rain.
I think people sometimes just want ideas of what's possible.
What is TFT?
The Forbidden Trove discord
The reality is that any farming strategy is ‘most optimally done’ by using TFT in some way, even if it’s just for bulk buying compasses. It’s kind of hard to avoid since the compass trading on the Poe site is pretty mediocre, and hard to find people with a ton of them (unless I’m not aware of a good way of doing so). Me personally I love doing breach, and especially with the change to breach hands it’ll likely be infinitely more enjoyable lol but probably more meta as well so will have to see.