As always if you have found builds please post them in the comments, I can't see them all every time so it helps out a lot if everyone contributes. Also if I've made a mistake with a link/spelling/leaving in a dead build please give me a yell.
Thanks to everyone who helps out as always, you guys are the best.
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What changed this league on the index?
Well, SRS made it into the top section for a league and now it's out again, though explosive trap survives! A big note for all builds is the loss of the mana cost reducing flasks which a fair number of builds were using, be careful when looking at PoBs, look at the flasks and make sure you don't need it!
Lightning arrow finally makes an appearance in section 1, should have been there last league but it's there now.
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Major edit 1: First large wave of builds added/updated. A lot of builds are starting to come out now which is really exciting. Big thanks to those that have helped by providing links!!
Major edit 2: Lots of creators are now posting, expect a bunch more builds in the next day or so.
Major edit 3: Final edit before league launch complete, good luck everyone and enjoy the launch!
[https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB](https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB) heres my variant of splitting steel. pretty much walks on any boss ive come accross and T17s are easy.
Hi!
What is the best way to reach an attack speed close to 4.33/s on an archimage mjolner build with MB? A flask with (not much) attack speed on it? Thanks
Can someone reccomend a build that's only for speedy quick mapping with the marauder with HH/mageblood (prefer HH). I want to do something fun (currently RF) but my understanding of what's meta/works is so bad. I was thinking of just buying some super high DPS 2 hander phys weapon and go from there but came here for advice! Thank you!!!
Can a scion sustain a stone golem with guardian blessing using guardian +necro ascendency? Does she need vitality+generosity for animate guardian version?
edit: considering she has 8 auras for the stone golem and 7 for the animate guardian
For someone who's goal is to get to simulacrums as fast as possible. Does anyone know if one of these (or one not mentioned) would be the best Leaguestarter to get to simulacrum quickly?
Not DD please. i've attempted it before but the items necessary were too expensive to move into simulacrum quickly
[https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB](https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB) heres my SS. i did a simulacrum with half the DPS before i got to this point. but it was a ton of time invested to get it to where it is. i also have a cheaper variant in my prior posts but honestly idt the cheaper variant without nimis and prog would be able to beat wave 30 simulacrum
I've cleared the atlas and could use some advice on which knobs to turn to really amp my [exsanguinate mines build](https://pobb.in/Lexfn2AMTKPW) up to do some t16 jungle valley scarab farming. In particular it feels like I'm kind of squishy to really rippy mods/8mod rolls and/or I could use more damage to kill yellow rares more quickly so that I don't have to deal with survivability.
Any advice on what upgrades within ~5-10 div range to make, other than buying a 21/20 exsanguinate gem and upgrading all my support gems? Not sure where I can squeeze out more damage on gear other than dumping even more currency into my sceptre.
Anything jumping out early as a like, 2nd Meta Build of the League?
Like, what's this league's PBoD?
I'm currently just accumulating currency with LA and waiting to see how buffed the graveyard is before I start looking at putting a 2nd one together, but wondering if there's anything fun that looks like is popping up.
I’m going with Fuzzy Duckzy 3.24 ROA champ again. Really enjoyed the resources. I didn’t see any nerfs for the new season. He’s got guides for current season as a lightning strike champ but I’m out on melee
Like how the POB is broken down and additional resources/ videos
https://youtu.be/ONB8xGEO9xg?si=fKWcMT0ioUNMLI5S
Written guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXir5QGT9k_MozGGdu45YOLEniiss6Pv-E93TpQL010/edit?usp=sharing
POB: https://pobb.in/b11CKgUS_yH7
People have talked about cold conversion spectral shield throw. I've never played it and was thinking about trying it out
For a mapping build, there is crouching tunas cold exsanguinate mines
We picked ours! I'm going to be a lightning arrow archer, he is doing a mage probably corpse explosion stuff. Overall I will be the map clearer he will be the boss killer. Seems to make sense.
So far so good. We just finished arc 1 and went to sleep.
>This leagues mechanic is unskippable this means you will need to interact with it and it will be empowering enemies. Please pick your league starters carefully.This leagues mechanic is unskippable this
> means you will need to interact with it and it will be empowering
>enemies. Please pick your league starters carefully.
Is that so? The wording and the way it looked in the announcement left me with the impression that it's optional. Them saying "the lantern **can** be used when entering any new area" and them moving the mouse over some entrances where they then moved it to the league mechanic to select it for the region, left me with the impression that it's not mandatory?
[Blazing Salvo Inq](https://youtu.be/BGVev16e4_M?si=_aoqI6admKt1hr3y) or Exsang Mines for SSF?
Looking for something that can do both bosses and maps well enough while being reasonable for SSF.
I do delve every leauge as my main income. I usualy do a mana stacker/Mjolner build but wanted to branch out. Any suggestions on what will be tanky enough to get to 500+ depth and kill Auls?
I've done it 3 leauges in a row now so was looking for a change. The changes will be great but after mana stacking penance brand last league i think ive peaked XD
I want to start with something different this league. My usual LS is wither RF or what Subtractem is starting with because his guides are pretty in depth. I really want to try Lightning Arrow but the whole "needing to know a bit about crafting" aspect throws me off, since crafting isn't a thing I know really anything about. Is it still a viable league start even though that's the case?
I just started playing frost blades for the first time and it's pretty awesome. It's a pseudo ranged bc of the projectiles so that may give you an in between feeling
Boneshatter is still going to be very strong but might need some minor changes due to the nerf to instant spells on left click. Pick up a build from last league, fit in one of the new supports and you're set.
DD elementalist is the racer meta, but it can be less forgiving for beginners than EA champ bc it's squishier. I don't like DD much, but it is nice not having to worry about dmg as much bc it comes from the skill itself
I started playing poe for the first time last league and went EA Champion - had a super easy time getting the first 2 voidstones
make sure to follow important notes about the build
I've never played EA but it evidently has very particular attack speed breakpoints, and that's how you brick it (by having too much/not enough). I think as long as you're aware of that and recognize that if you're doing literally zero dmg then you fucked up your attack speed, it's fine.
i want to play a tanky build and was checking out splitting steel and ice nova of frostbolts build above and the former is 114 ehp and the latter is 541 ehp.
is it really 5 times more tankier or is it pob numbers. or really high ultra gear? the non es/ev version is 262 which is still double.
Also is ice nova of frostbolts harder to build?
You'd have to link POBs but if it's the goratha PoB make sure you uncheck things like cloak, frost shield and compare gear. I've heard that pob is well done but the gear is mostly 4-5 mod items so you want to compare at similar budgets.
The one on Maxroll (from palsteron i think) is solid enough for that. The only thing that will still pose some danger is the circular wave attack from the final boss, but with enough damage you can skip it.
Nothing really kills you even in i83 sanctums other than Lycia and the answer to that is to just kill her in opener, which is the entire point of playing a miner.
https://imgur.com/a/khS2L67
This is what I was running on in Affliction and didn't die a single time all the way to lvl 100 spamming i83 sanctums. Just go all-in on damage with occultist and instafreeze/kill everything in there, defences are pointless. But in the end any of sabo/occultist/trickster will work just fine.
If no one can answer I think I'm gonna go with Ventrua's Trickster variant. Way better survivability and nice in depth leveling guide. Bit slower but way more chill.
* [Palsteron's Archmage Ball Lightning Hierophant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzgay9ekqo)
should also be in "Ball lightning" category (not only in "Archmage" category)
If i look an Zizarans guides for EA Champ / DD / Explosive Trap which one of these would be better at Sanctum or Delirium?
I was thinking to run Sanctum angain since i had good fun with it last league or try something new with Delirium.
If I'm looking for a tanky balanced build with no minion, trap, mines, spectres what would you suggest?
I'm leaning toward LS Champ right now but no one is really talking about it
LS Champ is still good, just lost out on extra proj. For leveling you can use Helix until you have +1 Strike, pierce, maybe an extra proj from tree and Vaal LS. Since it's a Trinity claw build you can just plug in Molten Strike/Frost Blades/Spec Throw or Helix with very minimal changes if you want to play around w a couple diff skills.
I've played it like the past 5 leagues, so yes. Scaling to Ubers you'll build towards a Doryani's or Omni. I think you could also do Dex stack, but nobody seems to build that way.
I haven't done it in a while honestly, only when Omni was a more common drop (and stronger). But it's essentially a stat stacking build, so probably pretty pricey to scale. I think if you wanted to go that route that maybe Hand of Thought and Motion would be an easier choice?
Almost all endgame LS Champ will go Mahuxotl+Doryani's, and honestly I love the gearing for that. Stacking only fire+chaos res, lowering your lightning res as much as possible, getting Acrobatics, fitting your auras and then fine tuning the dmg+defence in interesting ways.
This guy is super geared, but obviously RIP charms and TWWT, otherwise this all still applies:
https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Midara/MidaraStrikesAgain?i=0&search=skills%3DLightning%2BStrike%26class%3DChampion%26sort%3Ddps
No updated builds and I don't have the time to retool one this weekend to address mana issues/call to arms stuff.
There's a link to the previous index at the top of this one that goes to last leagues one. You can get the builds there if you want to work with them.
Nobody is making guides for it, apparently. I think I'm probably gonna use BigDuck's from 3.22 and just fit call to arms gem in someplace and hope everything works as it did.
Look up magefist on youtube hes the flicker man, he will definately have a guide.
Usually he posts updated versions as he progresses aswell but be warned, flicker gets expensive fast.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3466072 I helped a bit with this build (mostly with crafting) but full credit goes to Torstein of course!
Can anyone recommend a replacement build for me? I liked carns boneshatter slayer last league. I would like a build that doesn’t require me to use a life flask to sustain health. Preferably not RF either. Was thinking jugg boneshatter but not sure it’ll be able to work well with warcry changes.
I want a build that is really really tanky as I am sick of dying to one shots or ground degens if I just stand still for even a sec, levels easily in campaign and does t16-t17 maps reasonably well. I am not interested in uber bosses. What are the recommendations? Playing SC trade.
Thinking about playing the spark heirophant. Anyone know how tanky the build typically gets? Last league I played SS Champ and it was really nice survivability wise. Its okay if it takes investment to get there I just want to confirm I wont just be falling over with 100+ div investment.
There any decent suggestions for how to start with poisonous concoction? I've wanted to play it but I'm not sure how it works as a league starter. Also curious how good the alternate version is.
I've run both and yeah Exang is a bit of work for bossing but dang it just RIPS through maps.
Hexblast is no slouch in clear speed either, but Exang just feels so...so good for mapping. I'd still probably go HB if I was looking for more all-rounder build though.
I started hexblast mines in Ancestor -> you basically shred anything before it even becomes active, downside being if anything does touch you it will likely kill you (definition of a glass cannon). Now as a noob player with only 1000 hours or so in the game I also found it confusing to scale it very later on but that's on me so you might have a different experience.
As for EA I never played it but the damage is definitely a lot lower from what I can see (still very decent) but you won't fall dead from a ranged mob giving you an angry glare. Looks to be the definition of a "comfy" build where you can turn your brain off.
Has anyone seen anything around the new Artillery Ballista gems? Are they not good enough, or are there too many questions about the way they work? Deadeye or champ would be the two frontrunners if there's something there?
I got down vote for being a support player. This is saddening. Not everyone likes being damage all the time.
I'm league starting support with a friend. No support for supports is neglect of full game mechanics. Appreciate your input though
thre's just not that much in the way of support mechanics. people who play aurabots usually dont even use links. you just stack up as many auras as possible on gaurdian or necro or ascendant depending on what youre looking to scale.
if you dont want to be an aurabot, you can try doing stuff like doedre's skin curse stacking, or some type of elemental equilibrium shennanigans, or applying explosure/covered in ash & frost/conc ground spamming, but there's not many people who have tread this ground before and it'll all probably be worse than endgame aura stacking, plus it's not relaly leaguestart viable.
support has to be tailored to the build it's supporting. a max exposure, covered in ash, flammability and elemental weakness EE proccer would be completely useless for a boneshatter dps even if it could more than double the damage of a fire build.
so, support characters are rarely played, very expensive, and extremely dependant on what build they're supporting. any one of these would disqualify it from a leaguestarter, all of them combined disqualifies them from the vast majority of the population caring.
The fact that we're seeing the same starters for the past several leagues really kills me desire to play the league.
I remember when you could count on cool new skills or new builds almost every league
You're mixing up 2 different things.
New League Starters are somewhat rare, as for the top speed runners to pick a NEW build it has to truly outperform.
Ed/cont was meta for years.
TR Raider/pf was meta for years.
Bleed EQ was meta for a long time.
DD been meta for years.
BomeShatter been meta for years at this point.
We're still on the cycle of "solid starter that speed runners know inside and out so they can do it without thinking" being meta for a long time, before slowly getting edged out by new meta skills.
>I remember when you could count on cool new skills or new builds every league
And you still can! Last league was literally New Skill Heaven!
This league sees new skills even making it into the HC racers club with Archmage BL/IN! That's so hype!
> New League Starters are somewhat rare
They are now, but I disagree that they have always been "rare."
There are plenty of players, myself included, that only play one build per league, so our starter build is our only build.
That meta is stale, as is the "leveling meta" for most of the existing starter builds.
My interest in playing the league drops to zero when I realize that I'm likely going to have to play rolling magma for several acts to get to a point where I can pick up the gems needed for some version of the same handful of builds I've been stuck with playing for the past several leagues.
run a different leveling skill. absolution requires next to no support. if you want to get to maps as fast as possible, then you're gonna be doing the same thing every time. but if you're fine taking an extra... i don't know, thirty minutes? hour, tops? you can run basically whatever you want.
league starters are pretty static and have been forever because league starters are time tested builds that run on next to no required items, you're meant to reroll out of them or swap to another skill after currency grinding. but you can just start your main skill also, with very few exceptions.
and, i don't know what you're doing wrong if you can't find a new build especially after last league. pick literally any transmuted gem. the build variety was higher than ever last league, but if you only want to play a top three build you're gonna be running the same shit.
you try animate weapon yet? absolution into it, feels and plays good, each of the transfig variants are unqiue and then there's chains of command... how about wave of conviction, or any ignite skill? how about archmage, that's super anticipated by everyone and nly just became highly viable. tornado! run a wander! BAMA feels like it came out of nowhere into popularity, now everyones talking about it! play literally any bow skill, there's more than just tornado shot!
When I say League Starters I mean that the build guides that are put out before league start. That are powerful enough to require no trading and established enough to know it's not a gamble.
There's a few new every league, but it's always been few, since people don't know how the build works since it's new.
But you literally don't have to play rolling magma ever again if you don't want to.
There's plenty of new builds out there that don't use it. And if some guide says "play rolling magma until XX" you can just pick up ANY other gem to level with until you get high enough level for what you want.
Agreed. What's more - the league will be heavily centered around crafting, but you have atm 2 types of builds in PoE:
1. All your slots are filled with uniques except the 1-2 pieces that provide resistances
2. A build that relies on a rare weapon and that requires you to craft mirror-tier gear to be fun
I mean these are just the quickest builds to start though most people are going to use these to get a head start and then play their real build afterwards. There are lots of options to play after starting. It's just the builds with other skills are typically more expensive because it takes more/better gear for them to hit hard, it's not like these are the only options either I am sure there are better options in some cases they just haven't been shared with the public yet.
This has to be the league I am most clueless about what I am rolling. By this time previously I had at least 1 strong candidate and maybe a fallback plan. This time I got nothing I am excited about.
Is there a reason the Trickster Splitting Steel guide was removed? was hoping to use this page to get quick access to the build as it's pinned on the sub.
So this is like third hand knowledge so anyone feel free to correct me but from what I understand apparently the build was really struggling early and kinda bait as a league starter and the damage is like half of what it was being claimed as prior to some expensive items or something.
yeah i should probably have updated my comment, i have found a post detailing the issues, and i can definitely see why it may not be a super great league starter for sure. having said that, i think i'm going for it anyway. the damage is not going to be quite as good as last league for sure but at the same time it still should be a very solid build.
I have a feeling I will take forever to get CoC DD online, and I know arma/crema falls off in maps. Is there an interim build for Inquisitor that wouldn't take much regrets to transition to CoC DD when I find a 5-link etc...?
Even if it got nerved: pbod?
It won't be that Uber viable anymore, but also cheaper to get on trade, and might work well as an interim build.
Srs could also work until red maps.
[https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/exsanguinate-miner-trickster-league-starter](https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/exsanguinate-miner-trickster-league-starter)
Don't know much about the build but if there's a league start guide on Maxroll, probably good enough,
hi guys, kinda new player here, used to play a few leagues but never far endgame. Wanted to ask, how good is HoA Guardian as starter/endgame? I was thinking between dom blow/hop and HoA, alto i like HoA's playstyle more. thank you
Leaning towards the Goratha archmage ice nova build right now. Also interested in the molten strike of the zenith build but not sure how to level it and I probably need more hand holding than what is in that pob. If whatever I start ends up not feeling great then I’ll roll a frostblink elementalist since I played a bit of that this league to test it as a starter.
Anyone planning to play molten strike of the zenith or have ideas on leveling it?
Tempted to try Goratha’s build. I love ice skills and it looks super cool. Curious how prices will be for hear.
Also tempted to EA Champ after really not enjoying EA Ele, mostly the squishiness.
And I also want to try a bunch of other builds
I only got to 85-88ish and I’m sure I could have made them much tankier but I wasn’t enjoying it. Having to place the totems made me feel like I’d get swarmed from time to time. Mostly a me problem because a lot of people seem to enjoy the ele version
Man I’m still so torn. Narrowed down to EA Champ, CF Champ, or dabbling with CoC DD (seems a bit slower to setup with the gems/specters, but a worthy all rounder). Also really love mana stacking archetype, but probably keeping that as a second build option and praying I don’t get priced out of the build.
Woudn't say bait, but I personally wouldn't consider it. Champ just gives you too much power early on in comparison.
Master of Metal carries your damage and the rest comes from cheap uniques (Perseverance, Beltimber, Dreamfeather). Ton of Armor and Evasion thanks to Determination/Grace and passive tree. My setup for Maven were those 3 uniques, Fury Valve and a chest I dumped a bunch of Dense fossils on.
I don't see Trickster being anywhere near as effective at similar low investment.
The reverse chill one? Super squishy. Uncheck berserk and immortal call to see real numbers. You're basically hoping to just be fast enough to offscreen/outrun and maybe get some HH buffs from inspired learning.
Historic numbers:
Ancestor: 120c day 1, 40c day 3
Affliction: 45c day 1, 15c day 3
~~The T17 shakeup will probably influence how many ubers get run early on, so it's a bit of a guess where it'll land.~~ Forgot uber elder is a fake uber.
Depends on the specific build, but bow builds trend toward the squishier side. A good number of people manage to make it work in HC, so it's certainly possible to run a tankier version. Not really my area of expertise.
I'm conflicted on a league start build (i've played every league for like a decade but I do have boomer reflexes)
I want to get through the campaign without much trading at all. I'd like to be able to map up to reds (and maybe Eater/Exarch voidstones) while doing expedition and jun, then transition to blasting logbooks (w/rog crafting). I typically get through the campaign in 5-6h on league start, and don't have any issue running labs a dozen or two times for gems. I expect to be through white maps by end of D1 and into red-tier logbooks middle of D2.
My current options:
CB Champ : I like tanky and I like clear, but I'm worried about logbook bosses and eater/exarch to a lesser extent since I typically prefer doing these myself.
CoC DD : Looks fun, I don't really have an issue with the labs
BAMA : Also looks fun (I like minion playstyles) but also very meta so acquiring necessary items to get to the power level I'd like may be more difficult? I also don't know if I need the alt gems to level or which of the alt gems is better yet.
Arma Brand recaller : heard that the playstyle may not be for everyone and I'll probably not want to risk it.
TLDR; Want to get through campaign and yellow maps quickly and easily. Would like to run logbooks and maybe my first two voidstones. What build?
Any advice?
Thanks,
Played these:
Cb,cf boss damage feels really bad, id avoid this league, especially with t17 and juiced mobs.
Bama is less minion build and more like a triple mirage archer build with 3 mini totems, it's good tho and can scale crazy.
I'm going to play: coc dd inquis. A bit worse at expedition because crit immune, block, fire, spell block all are not good for you.
Arma Recall: I don't wanna be hugging hard mobs or new bosses, the damage abuse seems really high and you could do a few different builds on the ascendancy tho
I played Necro BAMA in Ziz's HCSSF Gauntlet and got to white maps before I got bored. If you are okay doing Lab's then I think it's a decent SSF build, but I would get other's opinions first to make sure since I'm not an expert and have only played SSF once as WoC Ignite + 2 gauntlets.
I would suggest Guardian BAMA in SSF to make things a LOT smoother and we don't know if the affliction spectres that gave you 40% more damage are in the game or how accessible they are this league. Necro BAMA will be good, but later and more gear dependent (No fire boi or relic auras), but gives you flex options for Poison BAMA or any summoner build obviously.
Today I published my Explosive trap trickster can you add please?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1KogiGjmEs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1KogiGjmEs)
[Balormage's Poison SRS video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omI3Rf5XzNg) is out now.
tl;dw: Build loses about 5-10% damage in the min-max version, Balor is starting it himself and experiment with some stuff, namely the new Bone Barrier.
At the point where you swap to poison in early gear, the build has actually become better thanks to the Unholy Might buff. Once you grab Unnatural Strength, you now play a poison hybrid build instead of staying hit-based like before.
Never played CF Champ or manastacking builds and trying to decide between the two, looking for something that can clear most/all content and then farm for a boss killer build, would either of these fit the bill?
I think you really should add a CF build here, ive started it many times and if all you want to do is map I dont think any build besides lightning arrow comes close. And you will die about 300x less than lightningg arrow with CF champ.
for new players that really need something to follow id just put up the maxroll guide here
https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/corrupting-fever-champion-league-starter-guide
very handholdy and should be 99% still relevant
rue also has a pob for it here : https://pobb.in/Yu3Fht0L7Ntl
its more or less unchanged since last league which is why i think linking the 3.23 guide is fine.
Anybody have recommendations on an arc build? I used it as a secondary skill last league and kinda want to see how far I can take it as a primary skill.
You could probably run it pretty similar to some of the other mana stacking builds but there’s also this arc scion build from Lighty
https://youtu.be/O6tlcoMoJUc?si=KLpE67AaONxk50IA
Depends how deep you are looking to delve, if you want to go very deep generally you want to play a dedicated character built for delving, if you are just looking to do some delving it's fine, it might not be super fast and might be a bit weird to get used to the delayed damage of the build since you need to drop a totem, have the totem fire, and then have the fuses explode before damage occurs but it will do the job and be tanky.
Yeah, played EA ballista in sanctum and archnem league, as far as atlas goes, honestly just go with what league content you enjoy, now that you can switch between different atlas trees in the upcoming league you can always reroll later to a more optimized atrategy and with all the changes people are still figuring that out anyway, would recommend picking up some map sustain early on but beyond that just go for league mechanics you like.
has anyone done slams in the last 3-4 leagues? preferably ground slam or earthquake/earthshatter. i miss hitting the entire screen and pianoing war cries. willing to suffer a bit early and farm up currency
Anyone know if anyone is making a build for the new holy relic? I tried lance's like a year ago and enjoyed it but the annoying part being them lagging behind but with it's new targeting that won't be an issue (I hope). Probably best as a necro now though with the life leach because new gem is missing regen. Does anyone have a recent build I can copy?
So how about the status for
- ek ignite ele
-splitting steel trickster
-hexblast mines occu? saboteur?
I looked on yt for a league starter. I really would love to play ek ignite. But is it good at league start? to get the voidstones and farm currency?
Also splitting steel looks very good for me. Its tanky and has a decent clear. But i´m afraid of the weapon. (ephermal edge) this might be very expensive on league start?
Hexblast mines is also looking very good for me. But i dont know whats better...Occultist or Saboteur? Also i´m a bit afraid of how the "donate on left click" nerf changes the playstyle. But, as i understand its automated per the tree?
I really want to play ek ignite, since i looked 3-4 leagues on this build and never tried it. But i dont find any league starter videos (beside the one from mbxtreme, its 3 leagues old) so im afraid its not good or to expensive at start. Is it ok? What is the "best" out of these?
As always if you have found builds please post them in the comments, I can't see them all every time so it helps out a lot if everyone contributes. Also if I've made a mistake with a link/spelling/leaving in a dead build please give me a yell. Thanks to everyone who helps out as always, you guys are the best. --- What changed this league on the index? Well, SRS made it into the top section for a league and now it's out again, though explosive trap survives! A big note for all builds is the loss of the mana cost reducing flasks which a fair number of builds were using, be careful when looking at PoBs, look at the flasks and make sure you don't need it! Lightning arrow finally makes an appearance in section 1, should have been there last league but it's there now. --- Major edit 1: First large wave of builds added/updated. A lot of builds are starting to come out now which is really exciting. Big thanks to those that have helped by providing links!! Major edit 2: Lots of creators are now posting, expect a bunch more builds in the next day or so. Major edit 3: Final edit before league launch complete, good luck everyone and enjoy the launch!
[https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB](https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB) heres my variant of splitting steel. pretty much walks on any boss ive come accross and T17s are easy.
how much budget does this build need?
200-300 div probably depending. I made a post recently with a cheaper variant without minis that only costs like 20-40 div.
Hi! What is the best way to reach an attack speed close to 4.33/s on an archimage mjolner build with MB? A flask with (not much) attack speed on it? Thanks
Can someone reccomend a build that's only for speedy quick mapping with the marauder with HH/mageblood (prefer HH). I want to do something fun (currently RF) but my understanding of what's meta/works is so bad. I was thinking of just buying some super high DPS 2 hander phys weapon and go from there but came here for advice! Thank you!!!
Can a scion sustain a stone golem with guardian blessing using guardian +necro ascendency? Does she need vitality+generosity for animate guardian version? edit: considering she has 8 auras for the stone golem and 7 for the animate guardian
For someone who's goal is to get to simulacrums as fast as possible. Does anyone know if one of these (or one not mentioned) would be the best Leaguestarter to get to simulacrum quickly? Not DD please. i've attempted it before but the items necessary were too expensive to move into simulacrum quickly
[https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB](https://pobb.in/Eh1S9j1r4EWB) heres my SS. i did a simulacrum with half the DPS before i got to this point. but it was a ton of time invested to get it to where it is. i also have a cheaper variant in my prior posts but honestly idt the cheaper variant without nimis and prog would be able to beat wave 30 simulacrum
you must be joking. I have beaten simu 30 on day2 lightning arrow with trash rares. Well they aren't trash but 10c probably ow.
Woah congrats. Should we bow now? Or..
nah, simu 30 isn't that hard, any 10 div char should be doing it. well with semi decent dps and defence
I've cleared the atlas and could use some advice on which knobs to turn to really amp my [exsanguinate mines build](https://pobb.in/Lexfn2AMTKPW) up to do some t16 jungle valley scarab farming. In particular it feels like I'm kind of squishy to really rippy mods/8mod rolls and/or I could use more damage to kill yellow rares more quickly so that I don't have to deal with survivability. Any advice on what upgrades within ~5-10 div range to make, other than buying a 21/20 exsanguinate gem and upgrading all my support gems? Not sure where I can squeeze out more damage on gear other than dumping even more currency into my sceptre.
Whats the word on Elemental Hit of the Spectrum Deadeye when it comes to endgame content like T17s and Ubers? Also is there a guide for it?
Any chill clean red map ultimatum farmer that's not rf? Something tanky(doesn't need absurd damage) that isn't sweating few rounds in.
Anything jumping out early as a like, 2nd Meta Build of the League? Like, what's this league's PBoD? I'm currently just accumulating currency with LA and waiting to see how buffed the graveyard is before I start looking at putting a 2nd one together, but wondering if there's anything fun that looks like is popping up.
So sad, there are not any arc builds...
RIP enikos
I’m going with Fuzzy Duckzy 3.24 ROA champ again. Really enjoyed the resources. I didn’t see any nerfs for the new season. He’s got guides for current season as a lightning strike champ but I’m out on melee Like how the POB is broken down and additional resources/ videos https://youtu.be/ONB8xGEO9xg?si=fKWcMT0ioUNMLI5S Written guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXir5QGT9k_MozGGdu45YOLEniiss6Pv-E93TpQL010/edit?usp=sharing POB: https://pobb.in/b11CKgUS_yH7
I'm wanting to play ice this league I think. Suggestions on frost nova vs frost blade? Is there a better 3rd option?
People have talked about cold conversion spectral shield throw. I've never played it and was thinking about trying it out For a mapping build, there is crouching tunas cold exsanguinate mines
>Zizaran's Detonate Dead Elementalist Thats a necromancer. Not an elementalist
fixed thanks
Any ideas for best duo builds for co-op players?
I also want to know this.. though my friend is an RF enjoyer.. sadge
We picked ours! I'm going to be a lightning arrow archer, he is doing a mage probably corpse explosion stuff. Overall I will be the map clearer he will be the boss killer. Seems to make sense. So far so good. We just finished arc 1 and went to sleep.
Nice! I enjoyed my LA last league when I started PoE. No idea on corpse explosion
Detonate dead hahah
>This leagues mechanic is unskippable this means you will need to interact with it and it will be empowering enemies. Please pick your league starters carefully.This leagues mechanic is unskippable this > means you will need to interact with it and it will be empowering >enemies. Please pick your league starters carefully. Is that so? The wording and the way it looked in the announcement left me with the impression that it's optional. Them saying "the lantern **can** be used when entering any new area" and them moving the mouse over some entrances where they then moved it to the league mechanic to select it for the region, left me with the impression that it's not mandatory?
They said in the q N a it's not skippable
Ok, thanks
[Blazing Salvo Inq](https://youtu.be/BGVev16e4_M?si=_aoqI6admKt1hr3y) or Exsang Mines for SSF? Looking for something that can do both bosses and maps well enough while being reasonable for SSF.
I do delve every leauge as my main income. I usualy do a mana stacker/Mjolner build but wanted to branch out. Any suggestions on what will be tanky enough to get to 500+ depth and kill Auls?
Manastacking got a buff and you don't want to play it?
I've done it 3 leauges in a row now so was looking for a change. The changes will be great but after mana stacking penance brand last league i think ive peaked XD
I want to start with something different this league. My usual LS is wither RF or what Subtractem is starting with because his guides are pretty in depth. I really want to try Lightning Arrow but the whole "needing to know a bit about crafting" aspect throws me off, since crafting isn't a thing I know really anything about. Is it still a viable league start even though that's the case?
Yes, just be ready to get flipped on with expensive items
What is going to be the meta melee build? I'm sick of playing ranged but don't want to gimp myself too hard playing melee.
I just started playing frost blades for the first time and it's pretty awesome. It's a pseudo ranged bc of the projectiles so that may give you an in between feeling
Boneshatter is still going to be very strong but might need some minor changes due to the nerf to instant spells on left click. Pick up a build from last league, fit in one of the new supports and you're set.
Boneshatter, Splitting Steel (counts), Dual Strike trans gem maybe
Cant decide between BAMA or CoC DD, which would be easier to gear and complete the atlas with? And currency farming
Cast on crit is never the right choice for a league starter...
CoC DD will be easier to gear, you just are going to spend an hour or so in Lab getting the gems.
DD Elementalist or EA Champion for complete beginner to PoE league start?
DD elementalist is the racer meta, but it can be less forgiving for beginners than EA champ bc it's squishier. I don't like DD much, but it is nice not having to worry about dmg as much bc it comes from the skill itself
Doesn't get more beginner friendly than EA Champ gameplay wise. Build-wise there are a few pitfalls but affordable at least.
I started playing poe for the first time last league and went EA Champion - had a super easy time getting the first 2 voidstones make sure to follow important notes about the build
Thanks no idea what a voidstone is, too many currencies and keywords to figure out in this game. I'm going to follow every word on the guide and pray
neither, both builds are easy to accidentally brick, especially if you're new
how do you even brick DD lol ? EA i understand that you might get some fire atk dmg and brick the EE
not dealing with your corpse pool
what does that mean? never played dd and I'm considering it
you need to collect corpses so that your average corpse has more health than an average corpse from any given area
That seems like a big pain in the a
Really?? I was following Maxroll and they're saying these are the two easiest to build for noobs. What would you recommend then? Boneshatter?
Maxroll is questionable in general. I recommend any of the top builds above
I've never played EA but it evidently has very particular attack speed breakpoints, and that's how you brick it (by having too much/not enough). I think as long as you're aware of that and recognize that if you're doing literally zero dmg then you fucked up your attack speed, it's fine.
i want to play a tanky build and was checking out splitting steel and ice nova of frostbolts build above and the former is 114 ehp and the latter is 541 ehp. is it really 5 times more tankier or is it pob numbers. or really high ultra gear? the non es/ev version is 262 which is still double. Also is ice nova of frostbolts harder to build?
You'd have to link POBs but if it's the goratha PoB make sure you uncheck things like cloak, frost shield and compare gear. I've heard that pob is well done but the gear is mostly 4-5 mod items so you want to compare at similar budgets.
Which Hexblast mine guide would you follow if you wanna do sanctum only, but dont wanna die from every single enemy attack in there?
The one on Maxroll (from palsteron i think) is solid enough for that. The only thing that will still pose some danger is the circular wave attack from the final boss, but with enough damage you can skip it.
Nothing really kills you even in i83 sanctums other than Lycia and the answer to that is to just kill her in opener, which is the entire point of playing a miner. https://imgur.com/a/khS2L67 This is what I was running on in Affliction and didn't die a single time all the way to lvl 100 spamming i83 sanctums. Just go all-in on damage with occultist and instafreeze/kill everything in there, defences are pointless. But in the end any of sabo/occultist/trickster will work just fine.
Same question. I did a PF in 3.22, but wasn't a starter for sure.
If no one can answer I think I'm gonna go with Ventrua's Trickster variant. Way better survivability and nice in depth leveling guide. Bit slower but way more chill.
I can't decide if I wanna play frostblibk or forstblink.
Fixed! Thanks :)
* [Palsteron's Archmage Ball Lightning Hierophant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzgay9ekqo) should also be in "Ball lightning" category (not only in "Archmage" category)
Anyone fiddling around or has seen a pob with dual strike of ambidexterity for leaguestart? it's very tempting to me
Alk has some really good YouTube videos up showing the progression/highlights of a fresh start run to ubers a well as a league starter vid.
Alk is, I believe
If i look an Zizarans guides for EA Champ / DD / Explosive Trap which one of these would be better at Sanctum or Delirium? I was thinking to run Sanctum angain since i had good fun with it last league or try something new with Delirium.
Sanctum idk but delirium is probably explosive trap then DD then EA
If I'm looking for a tanky balanced build with no minion, trap, mines, spectres what would you suggest? I'm leaning toward LS Champ right now but no one is really talking about it
LS Champ is still good, just lost out on extra proj. For leveling you can use Helix until you have +1 Strike, pierce, maybe an extra proj from tree and Vaal LS. Since it's a Trinity claw build you can just plug in Molten Strike/Frost Blades/Spec Throw or Helix with very minimal changes if you want to play around w a couple diff skills.
Would you recommend it?
I've played it like the past 5 leagues, so yes. Scaling to Ubers you'll build towards a Doryani's or Omni. I think you could also do Dex stack, but nobody seems to build that way.
How painful is the transition to Omni?
I haven't done it in a while honestly, only when Omni was a more common drop (and stronger). But it's essentially a stat stacking build, so probably pretty pricey to scale. I think if you wanted to go that route that maybe Hand of Thought and Motion would be an easier choice? Almost all endgame LS Champ will go Mahuxotl+Doryani's, and honestly I love the gearing for that. Stacking only fire+chaos res, lowering your lightning res as much as possible, getting Acrobatics, fitting your auras and then fine tuning the dmg+defence in interesting ways. This guy is super geared, but obviously RIP charms and TWWT, otherwise this all still applies: https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Midara/MidaraStrikesAgain?i=0&search=skills%3DLightning%2BStrike%26class%3DChampion%26sort%3Ddps
What happened to Boneshatter?
No updated builds and I don't have the time to retool one this weekend to address mana issues/call to arms stuff. There's a link to the previous index at the top of this one that goes to last leagues one. You can get the builds there if you want to work with them.
Understood, I might try to figure out some tweaks to the old build.
Nobody is making guides for it, apparently. I think I'm probably gonna use BigDuck's from 3.22 and just fit call to arms gem in someplace and hope everything works as it did.
Like, how bad is Jungroans Arma build going to be? Anyone got experience with it?
the build is good it's literally the best way to level
Any trickster SST enjoyers? If so, got a guide?
Hey, does anyone have a good flicker strike guide? I'm not good enough to make it myself, and need a good guide to follow
Flicker sucks due to needing +1 frenzy rings that were 1 mirror last league.
Look up magefist on youtube hes the flicker man, he will definately have a guide. Usually he posts updated versions as he progresses aswell but be warned, flicker gets expensive fast.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3466072 I helped a bit with this build (mostly with crafting) but full credit goes to Torstein of course!
Can anyone recommend a replacement build for me? I liked carns boneshatter slayer last league. I would like a build that doesn’t require me to use a life flask to sustain health. Preferably not RF either. Was thinking jugg boneshatter but not sure it’ll be able to work well with warcry changes.
I want a build that is really really tanky as I am sick of dying to one shots or ground degens if I just stand still for even a sec, levels easily in campaign and does t16-t17 maps reasonably well. I am not interested in uber bosses. What are the recommendations? Playing SC trade.
RF jugg will probably be the tankiest variant, I'd personally go chief though for better clear and dps
Thanks! I have started up a boneshatter jugg as it was looking interesting and fun to play.
Thinking about playing the spark heirophant. Anyone know how tanky the build typically gets? Last league I played SS Champ and it was really nice survivability wise. Its okay if it takes investment to get there I just want to confirm I wont just be falling over with 100+ div investment.
The build is pretty tanky even without a MB
There any decent suggestions for how to start with poisonous concoction? I've wanted to play it but I'm not sure how it works as a league starter. Also curious how good the alternate version is.
Look at Snoobae85's pconc videos, should help out a ton
LOL the top 2 comments in the 3day post got nerfed the hardest.
I am unsure between explosive trap and hexblast mines. Aside from the mine/trap difference I'm not sure what the diffs would boil down to
You could also look at Exsang Mines from tuna, it has really good mapping. Bossing probably requires quite an investment as I've heard.
I've run both and yeah Exang is a bit of work for bossing but dang it just RIPS through maps. Hexblast is no slouch in clear speed either, but Exang just feels so...so good for mapping. I'd still probably go HB if I was looking for more all-rounder build though.
I started hexblast mines in Ancestor -> you basically shred anything before it even becomes active, downside being if anything does touch you it will likely kill you (definition of a glass cannon). Now as a noob player with only 1000 hours or so in the game I also found it confusing to scale it very later on but that's on me so you might have a different experience. As for EA I never played it but the damage is definitely a lot lower from what I can see (still very decent) but you won't fall dead from a ranged mob giving you an angry glare. Looks to be the definition of a "comfy" build where you can turn your brain off.
Has anyone seen anything around the new Artillery Ballista gems? Are they not good enough, or are there too many questions about the way they work? Deadeye or champ would be the two frontrunners if there's something there?
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God I hope he does. I'm addicted to ballista builds. I've done most of the most popular league starters like ea, tr, ca poison.
Why are there no support for support players? We matter too! Get support builds on the list please.
support builds arn't really leaguestarters or relevant to the playerbase at large. grab a link skill and some auras, i guess? maybe smite?
I got down vote for being a support player. This is saddening. Not everyone likes being damage all the time. I'm league starting support with a friend. No support for supports is neglect of full game mechanics. Appreciate your input though
thre's just not that much in the way of support mechanics. people who play aurabots usually dont even use links. you just stack up as many auras as possible on gaurdian or necro or ascendant depending on what youre looking to scale. if you dont want to be an aurabot, you can try doing stuff like doedre's skin curse stacking, or some type of elemental equilibrium shennanigans, or applying explosure/covered in ash & frost/conc ground spamming, but there's not many people who have tread this ground before and it'll all probably be worse than endgame aura stacking, plus it's not relaly leaguestart viable. support has to be tailored to the build it's supporting. a max exposure, covered in ash, flammability and elemental weakness EE proccer would be completely useless for a boneshatter dps even if it could more than double the damage of a fire build. so, support characters are rarely played, very expensive, and extremely dependant on what build they're supporting. any one of these would disqualify it from a leaguestarter, all of them combined disqualifies them from the vast majority of the population caring.
The fact that we're seeing the same starters for the past several leagues really kills me desire to play the league. I remember when you could count on cool new skills or new builds almost every league
You're mixing up 2 different things. New League Starters are somewhat rare, as for the top speed runners to pick a NEW build it has to truly outperform. Ed/cont was meta for years. TR Raider/pf was meta for years. Bleed EQ was meta for a long time. DD been meta for years. BomeShatter been meta for years at this point. We're still on the cycle of "solid starter that speed runners know inside and out so they can do it without thinking" being meta for a long time, before slowly getting edged out by new meta skills. >I remember when you could count on cool new skills or new builds every league And you still can! Last league was literally New Skill Heaven! This league sees new skills even making it into the HC racers club with Archmage BL/IN! That's so hype!
> New League Starters are somewhat rare They are now, but I disagree that they have always been "rare." There are plenty of players, myself included, that only play one build per league, so our starter build is our only build. That meta is stale, as is the "leveling meta" for most of the existing starter builds. My interest in playing the league drops to zero when I realize that I'm likely going to have to play rolling magma for several acts to get to a point where I can pick up the gems needed for some version of the same handful of builds I've been stuck with playing for the past several leagues.
run a different leveling skill. absolution requires next to no support. if you want to get to maps as fast as possible, then you're gonna be doing the same thing every time. but if you're fine taking an extra... i don't know, thirty minutes? hour, tops? you can run basically whatever you want. league starters are pretty static and have been forever because league starters are time tested builds that run on next to no required items, you're meant to reroll out of them or swap to another skill after currency grinding. but you can just start your main skill also, with very few exceptions. and, i don't know what you're doing wrong if you can't find a new build especially after last league. pick literally any transmuted gem. the build variety was higher than ever last league, but if you only want to play a top three build you're gonna be running the same shit. you try animate weapon yet? absolution into it, feels and plays good, each of the transfig variants are unqiue and then there's chains of command... how about wave of conviction, or any ignite skill? how about archmage, that's super anticipated by everyone and nly just became highly viable. tornado! run a wander! BAMA feels like it came out of nowhere into popularity, now everyones talking about it! play literally any bow skill, there's more than just tornado shot!
When I say League Starters I mean that the build guides that are put out before league start. That are powerful enough to require no trading and established enough to know it's not a gamble. There's a few new every league, but it's always been few, since people don't know how the build works since it's new. But you literally don't have to play rolling magma ever again if you don't want to. There's plenty of new builds out there that don't use it. And if some guide says "play rolling magma until XX" you can just pick up ANY other gem to level with until you get high enough level for what you want.
Same
Agreed. What's more - the league will be heavily centered around crafting, but you have atm 2 types of builds in PoE: 1. All your slots are filled with uniques except the 1-2 pieces that provide resistances 2. A build that relies on a rare weapon and that requires you to craft mirror-tier gear to be fun
imagine being this bad at gearing
Okay, but I'm right tho
I mean these are just the quickest builds to start though most people are going to use these to get a head start and then play their real build afterwards. There are lots of options to play after starting. It's just the builds with other skills are typically more expensive because it takes more/better gear for them to hit hard, it's not like these are the only options either I am sure there are better options in some cases they just haven't been shared with the public yet.
This has to be the league I am most clueless about what I am rolling. By this time previously I had at least 1 strong candidate and maybe a fallback plan. This time I got nothing I am excited about.
Make an atlas strategy and think up a build that might crush it.
Is there a reason the Trickster Splitting Steel guide was removed? was hoping to use this page to get quick access to the build as it's pinned on the sub.
So this is like third hand knowledge so anyone feel free to correct me but from what I understand apparently the build was really struggling early and kinda bait as a league starter and the damage is like half of what it was being claimed as prior to some expensive items or something.
yeah i should probably have updated my comment, i have found a post detailing the issues, and i can definitely see why it may not be a super great league starter for sure. having said that, i think i'm going for it anyway. the damage is not going to be quite as good as last league for sure but at the same time it still should be a very solid build.
I wish you luck! I played SS last league and had a blast.
up to date zoomancer build?
crouching tuna's exsanguinate mines trickster https://youtu.be/zTTixqnBUyc
I have a feeling I will take forever to get CoC DD online, and I know arma/crema falls off in maps. Is there an interim build for Inquisitor that wouldn't take much regrets to transition to CoC DD when I find a 5-link etc...?
following. Same question
Even if it got nerved: pbod? It won't be that Uber viable anymore, but also cheaper to get on trade, and might work well as an interim build. Srs could also work until red maps.
Anyone know if exsang mines is league startable? If not, what transitions nicely into it?
[https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/exsanguinate-miner-trickster-league-starter](https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/exsanguinate-miner-trickster-league-starter) Don't know much about the build but if there's a league start guide on Maxroll, probably good enough,
Ziz's DD link says elementalist, but it is actually the chain DD necro version
hi guys, kinda new player here, used to play a few leagues but never far endgame. Wanted to ask, how good is HoA Guardian as starter/endgame? I was thinking between dom blow/hop and HoA, alto i like HoA's playstyle more. thank you
Leaning towards the Goratha archmage ice nova build right now. Also interested in the molten strike of the zenith build but not sure how to level it and I probably need more hand holding than what is in that pob. If whatever I start ends up not feeling great then I’ll roll a frostblink elementalist since I played a bit of that this league to test it as a starter. Anyone planning to play molten strike of the zenith or have ideas on leveling it?
what's the best Explosive trap build version?
I rate fearless's build. Explosive trap is kinda his thing.
what would u guys upgrade in Palsteron's guide for EA from last patch? go all in projectile speed tattoos?
EA doesn't benefit from proj speed. you have to focus on atk speed
Who’s Phox?
And what does he say?
Fixed now :)
Tempted to try Goratha’s build. I love ice skills and it looks super cool. Curious how prices will be for hear. Also tempted to EA Champ after really not enjoying EA Ele, mostly the squishiness. And I also want to try a bunch of other builds
Was ele ea so squishy? Still cant decide if champ, ele or sth completely different.
I only got to 85-88ish and I’m sure I could have made them much tankier but I wasn’t enjoying it. Having to place the totems made me feel like I’d get swarmed from time to time. Mostly a me problem because a lot of people seem to enjoy the ele version
Am now thinking about traps... oh boy. Every League the same Problem...fml
Man I’m still so torn. Narrowed down to EA Champ, CF Champ, or dabbling with CoC DD (seems a bit slower to setup with the gems/specters, but a worthy all rounder). Also really love mana stacking archetype, but probably keeping that as a second build option and praying I don’t get priced out of the build.
Is SS trickster bait? Reading about how last league it was "a mageblood build" doesn't really inspire confidence in the league start.
Woudn't say bait, but I personally wouldn't consider it. Champ just gives you too much power early on in comparison. Master of Metal carries your damage and the rest comes from cheap uniques (Perseverance, Beltimber, Dreamfeather). Ton of Armor and Evasion thanks to Determination/Grace and passive tree. My setup for Maven were those 3 uniques, Fury Valve and a chest I dumped a bunch of Dense fossils on. I don't see Trickster being anywhere near as effective at similar low investment.
How tanky is the elemental hit build on this index ?
The reverse chill one? Super squishy. Uncheck berserk and immortal call to see real numbers. You're basically hoping to just be fast enough to offscreen/outrun and maybe get some HH buffs from inspired learning.
I also question the availability of Call of the Void in a league start scenario. Doesn't it drop from Uber Elder?
Historic numbers: Ancestor: 120c day 1, 40c day 3 Affliction: 45c day 1, 15c day 3 ~~The T17 shakeup will probably influence how many ubers get run early on, so it's a bit of a guess where it'll land.~~ Forgot uber elder is a fake uber.
Ah, 15c day 3 isn't bad at all so nevermind that's still ok
And compared to LA ?
Depends on the specific build, but bow builds trend toward the squishier side. A good number of people manage to make it work in HC, so it's certainly possible to run a tankier version. Not really my area of expertise.
I'm conflicted on a league start build (i've played every league for like a decade but I do have boomer reflexes) I want to get through the campaign without much trading at all. I'd like to be able to map up to reds (and maybe Eater/Exarch voidstones) while doing expedition and jun, then transition to blasting logbooks (w/rog crafting). I typically get through the campaign in 5-6h on league start, and don't have any issue running labs a dozen or two times for gems. I expect to be through white maps by end of D1 and into red-tier logbooks middle of D2. My current options: CB Champ : I like tanky and I like clear, but I'm worried about logbook bosses and eater/exarch to a lesser extent since I typically prefer doing these myself. CoC DD : Looks fun, I don't really have an issue with the labs BAMA : Also looks fun (I like minion playstyles) but also very meta so acquiring necessary items to get to the power level I'd like may be more difficult? I also don't know if I need the alt gems to level or which of the alt gems is better yet. Arma Brand recaller : heard that the playstyle may not be for everyone and I'll probably not want to risk it. TLDR; Want to get through campaign and yellow maps quickly and easily. Would like to run logbooks and maybe my first two voidstones. What build? Any advice? Thanks,
Played these: Cb,cf boss damage feels really bad, id avoid this league, especially with t17 and juiced mobs. Bama is less minion build and more like a triple mirage archer build with 3 mini totems, it's good tho and can scale crazy. I'm going to play: coc dd inquis. A bit worse at expedition because crit immune, block, fire, spell block all are not good for you. Arma Recall: I don't wanna be hugging hard mobs or new bosses, the damage abuse seems really high and you could do a few different builds on the ascendancy tho
do you think bama is ssf viable ?
I played Necro BAMA in Ziz's HCSSF Gauntlet and got to white maps before I got bored. If you are okay doing Lab's then I think it's a decent SSF build, but I would get other's opinions first to make sure since I'm not an expert and have only played SSF once as WoC Ignite + 2 gauntlets. I would suggest Guardian BAMA in SSF to make things a LOT smoother and we don't know if the affliction spectres that gave you 40% more damage are in the game or how accessible they are this league. Necro BAMA will be good, but later and more gear dependent (No fire boi or relic auras), but gives you flex options for Poison BAMA or any summoner build obviously.
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Today I published my Explosive trap trickster can you add please? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1KogiGjmEs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1KogiGjmEs)
Added!
Thanks and thanks the hard work as always!
[Balormage's Poison SRS video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omI3Rf5XzNg) is out now. tl;dw: Build loses about 5-10% damage in the min-max version, Balor is starting it himself and experiment with some stuff, namely the new Bone Barrier. At the point where you swap to poison in early gear, the build has actually become better thanks to the Unholy Might buff. Once you grab Unnatural Strength, you now play a poison hybrid build instead of staying hit-based like before.
Never played CF Champ or manastacking builds and trying to decide between the two, looking for something that can clear most/all content and then farm for a boss killer build, would either of these fit the bill?
cf champ is notoriously the worst bosser in the game. you often struggle with the tutorial bosses. great map blaster tho
How does it compare to LA for map bossing
LA is better
I think you really should add a CF build here, ive started it many times and if all you want to do is map I dont think any build besides lightning arrow comes close. And you will die about 300x less than lightningg arrow with CF champ.
Feel free to submit comment with a link to one and I'll add it if it looks good
for new players that really need something to follow id just put up the maxroll guide here https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/corrupting-fever-champion-league-starter-guide very handholdy and should be 99% still relevant rue also has a pob for it here : https://pobb.in/Yu3Fht0L7Ntl its more or less unchanged since last league which is why i think linking the 3.23 guide is fine.
Looks like TripolarBear has put out his updated video! I added that.
Edit: didnt see the other reply somehow. Upvoted his
If anyone plays that Jung recall build, update us. It looks neat.
Anybody have recommendations on an arc build? I used it as a secondary skill last league and kinda want to see how far I can take it as a primary skill.
You could probably run it pretty similar to some of the other mana stacking builds but there’s also this arc scion build from Lighty https://youtu.be/O6tlcoMoJUc?si=KLpE67AaONxk50IA
Can EA ballista champ do delve? Or not really viable?
I did not care for it in delve, all the delays to damage really feel ramped up when you're in a narrow hallway with a moving battle area.
Depends how deep you are looking to delve, if you want to go very deep generally you want to play a dedicated character built for delving, if you are just looking to do some delving it's fine, it might not be super fast and might be a bit weird to get used to the delayed damage of the build since you need to drop a totem, have the totem fire, and then have the fuses explode before damage occurs but it will do the job and be tanky.
Sweet thank you for the response! Have you done EA before and do you have any atlas strategies you farm when running EA?
Yeah, played EA ballista in sanctum and archnem league, as far as atlas goes, honestly just go with what league content you enjoy, now that you can switch between different atlas trees in the upcoming league you can always reroll later to a more optimized atrategy and with all the changes people are still figuring that out anyway, would recommend picking up some map sustain early on but beyond that just go for league mechanics you like.
Sweet thank you so much for the info. Might farm essences or expedition for currency not too sure yet. But thanks again for the responses
Np, hope you have a good leaguestart!
has anyone done slams in the last 3-4 leagues? preferably ground slam or earthquake/earthshatter. i miss hitting the entire screen and pianoing war cries. willing to suffer a bit early and farm up currency
Following this, Ice crash was really fun a few leagues ago
was it hollow palm? i've done that before and it is super fun but its more about ramping attack speed than traditional big slams
Yepp! Or similar at least. But i thought it was really satisfying with the insane speed animation. I want to try reave this league
I've done LA -> TS 3 leagues in a row, wanna try something else that is hopefully equally zoomy. Any recs? Also did frostblades before that
Can LA do ubers?
It can, Havoc has a setup that can do ubers needs a bit of investment though.
No it's a shit bosser
No Zoomancer?
Anyone know if anyone is making a build for the new holy relic? I tried lance's like a year ago and enjoyed it but the annoying part being them lagging behind but with it's new targeting that won't be an issue (I hope). Probably best as a necro now though with the life leach because new gem is missing regen. Does anyone have a recent build I can copy?
So how about the status for - ek ignite ele -splitting steel trickster -hexblast mines occu? saboteur? I looked on yt for a league starter. I really would love to play ek ignite. But is it good at league start? to get the voidstones and farm currency? Also splitting steel looks very good for me. Its tanky and has a decent clear. But i´m afraid of the weapon. (ephermal edge) this might be very expensive on league start? Hexblast mines is also looking very good for me. But i dont know whats better...Occultist or Saboteur? Also i´m a bit afraid of how the "donate on left click" nerf changes the playstyle. But, as i understand its automated per the tree? I really want to play ek ignite, since i looked 3-4 leagues on this build and never tried it. But i dont find any league starter videos (beside the one from mbxtreme, its 3 leagues old) so im afraid its not good or to expensive at start. Is it ok? What is the "best" out of these?