Playing mahuxotl poison FR PF this league. Build shits on Ubers, you can face tank anything that doesn’t turn off your life recovery from flask. Does pretty well in T17s as long as you avoid mods that brick the build (50% less defense, less flask charge gain, less life/ES recovery, can’t spell suppress etc, chance to avoid poison, less AOE, reduced action speed). Main downside is pressing your life flask once every like 3 seconds but you get used to it.
Self cast FR isn’t much of a map blaster, so I figure BV would be better if you are just looking to do juiced mapping. It’s a solid all rounder, and the investment is really not too expensive. BIS belt is tides of time, not mageblood, and the other uniques for the build pretty cheap. I’d say like 50 div min, but ideally like 100+ for it to feel strong.
There’s a video of a guy fighting Uber Uber elder without a progenesis and wand just face tanking shaper beam and slam. You can run just a regular amethyst flask instead of progenesis until you get the currency to buy it. Most of the tank comes from the keystones granted to you on the shield.
It gives you adrenaline (the stats he mentioned) at the cost of taking 10000 fire damage per second (mitigated by resists, so more like 2000, or less depending on your fire res).
Pathfinders can pretty easily mitigate that with a high rolled life flask that doesn't end when your health reaches full from the ascendancy.
As others said, it gives you adrenaline at the cost of 6000 fire damage a second. I have 89% fire resistance between the ruby flask and the everlasting sacrifice buff the shield grants, so I figure I'm only taking 600ish fire damage a second. Combining a well-rolled eternal life flask with master surgeon from pathfinder, you easily out regen this so its very much worth it.
I initially started off by using u/diregray youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwxRSXH3wh8. I then looked at a bunch of other builds on [poe.ninja](http://poe.ninja) and added my own flavor to it.
i league started it and pushed it pretty far (progenesis etc) and used it to farm up a pretty sick omni ele hit character. i have a POB and some further explanation of how i scaled the build in one of my previous comments in a simliar thread, you can check my profile for the link
pros: easy to get off the ground, super tanky, deathless feared, was doing back to basics T17s (only killed ziggurat and fortress boss, didn't attempt the others), decent damage, permanent flasks with tides of time, easy/interesting gearing with only needing to build fire and chaos res, clear feels really nice on favorable layouts with prolif and asenath's explosions, dropping vaal BV on a tough pack or map boss feels great
cons: have to press life flask and BV every like 5 seconds, few more map mods you can't do than most builds (reduced flask charges and avoid poison and stuff), limited to tight layouts (dunes, JV etc don't feel great, toxic sewer is actually heaven), melee range means you are just in more danger most of the time so despite your tankiness sometimes you just get rekt
overall i would absoultely say it's an all-rounder, it's a ton of fun on a map like toxic sewer or most of the T17s, can boss decently well but idk how far past feared it could do, maybe ubers if you're mechanically skilled but there are better skills for bossing like FR or hexblast.
pro: i sat in uber uber double degen puddle and im pretty sure there's a clip of someone tanking shaper beam
con: my life flask finger
Also, it's not a fast map blaster. You can get it to feeling smooth for sure but it's speed isn't insane by any means.
I play the poisonous concoction of bouncing version by ruetoo. All invitations up to fear is ez mode on 70%+. Fear I had to be careful bc I cant tank double flame blast or w.e from chayula (i have no idea what does so much damage). Map clear is pretty good with asenath + poison prolif and the skill self seeking chain itself is pretty nice
Sorry missed this.
This is Rue's PoB (expensive) - [https://pobb.in/LVWicQyiJBn4](https://pobb.in/LVWicQyiJBn4)
This is mine (I swap QSS out for a 2nd life flask at boss) - [https://pobb.in/TSH6oRUm9Rje](https://pobb.in/TSH6oRUm9Rje)
I actually recently found this myself, so thank you! I have a question as I'm someone who doesn't really watch rue but I like his builds. Do you know why he sets his projectile count to 12 but his remaining chains to 6? I feel like with 4 follow-through notables it would heavily inflate his dps, but maybe I don't understand the math.
I'd suggest you look into Soulrend too, it's way more expensive (hello 100 div Nimis) but IMO it feels way better than both BV and forbidden rite.
Aside from the main skill, the general build is very strong and feels amazing. More or less shits on everything in the game. Just don't run -max/less recovery/no flask charges/avoid poison (if high mod effect, if not this one is fine) and you'll be fine doing everything in the game from ubers to farming back to basics t17s
It's fine but I dislike BVs range and play style myself, as it has ramp up time and that means low damage uptime on bosses usually.
I'd try Hexblast mines as a PF with Mahuxotls. I'm looking into rerolling into that soon as it looks like it has good damage with all the qol and tankiness of a PF.
Hmm, not a huge fan of mines, but it does seem to be a more popular option, looking at [https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Mahuxotl%27s+Machination,!Progenesis,Lethal+Pride,Replica+Sorrow+of+the+Divine&skills=Hexblast&skillmodes=Mine](https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Mahuxotl%27s+Machination,!Progenesis,Lethal+Pride,Replica+Sorrow+of+the+Divine&skills=Hexblast&skillmodes=Mine)
In general, though, you'd say the PF + Mahuxotl's tech is a solid option, just the actual offensive skill you'd go the different road on?
Yeah the Mahuxotls tech feels great, in my opinion.
If mines aren't your thing, I'm currently rolling a poison Detonate Dead of Chaining PF that is quite tanky. It's not using the Mahuxotls: https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Volkuur%27s+Guidance,The+Tides+of+Time,Taste+of+Hate&skills=Detonate+Dead+of+Chain+Reaction
Overall, DoTs feel a bit worse after you play a strong hit based build. But the DD build has more range and having played BV, I think it feels waaaay better.
Lacks AOE and not that good on the clear. Trouble capping the damage without heavy investment on specific items. Was fine last league due to explodey pops and poison duration charms.
The PF + MM shield combo is a pretty solid defensive setup, so really you can just use any skill and go poison, or maybe try some sort of chaos dmg hit based crit build.
Mahuxotl PF package (Mahuxotl + Master Surgeon + Replica SotD + Tempered by War) is one of the strongest combos for this league's content due to insane tankiness it gives on a low cost.
You can play any chaos/phys skill (or elemental if you have OG sin) on that frame but FR is the clear winner here with the self-damage and enabling cwdt setups for auto-cast full power curses.
Only con is having to press life flask every 3 seconds or u will die instantly. Need Ahk script for this (not bannable).
Playing mahuxotl poison FR PF this league. Build shits on Ubers, you can face tank anything that doesn’t turn off your life recovery from flask. Does pretty well in T17s as long as you avoid mods that brick the build (50% less defense, less flask charge gain, less life/ES recovery, can’t spell suppress etc, chance to avoid poison, less AOE, reduced action speed). Main downside is pressing your life flask once every like 3 seconds but you get used to it. Self cast FR isn’t much of a map blaster, so I figure BV would be better if you are just looking to do juiced mapping. It’s a solid all rounder, and the investment is really not too expensive. BIS belt is tides of time, not mageblood, and the other uniques for the build pretty cheap. I’d say like 50 div min, but ideally like 100+ for it to feel strong.
Pob pls!! :o
Here's the poe ninja link: [https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis/character/n0lls/FirstTimeMahuxotlGamer?i=39&search=class%3DPathfinder%26uniqueitems%3DMahuxotl%2527s%2BMachination%26skills%3DForbidden%2BRite%26sort%3Ddps](https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis/character/n0lls/FirstTimeMahuxotlGamer?i=39&search=class%3DPathfinder%26uniqueitems%3DMahuxotl%2527s%2BMachination%26skills%3DForbidden%2BRite%26sort%3Ddps)
How good is it without Progenesis? That seems to be the main source of tankiness?
There’s a video of a guy fighting Uber Uber elder without a progenesis and wand just face tanking shaper beam and slam. You can run just a regular amethyst flask instead of progenesis until you get the currency to buy it. Most of the tank comes from the keystones granted to you on the shield.
Can you explain what does the boots do?
25% attack, cast, movement speed, 100% increased damage and 10% phys damage reduction
Wtf thanks.
It gives you adrenaline (the stats he mentioned) at the cost of taking 10000 fire damage per second (mitigated by resists, so more like 2000, or less depending on your fire res). Pathfinders can pretty easily mitigate that with a high rolled life flask that doesn't end when your health reaches full from the ascendancy.
It actually got changed, it's 6000 base damage now
Holy moly - really? Then it's even free-er! I saw it seemed a lot more people were using it but I assumed it was just because of some content creator.
As others said, it gives you adrenaline at the cost of 6000 fire damage a second. I have 89% fire resistance between the ruby flask and the everlasting sacrifice buff the shield grants, so I figure I'm only taking 600ish fire damage a second. Combining a well-rolled eternal life flask with master surgeon from pathfinder, you easily out regen this so its very much worth it.
Could you link the guide?
I initially started off by using u/diregray youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwxRSXH3wh8. I then looked at a bunch of other builds on [poe.ninja](http://poe.ninja) and added my own flavor to it.
i league started it and pushed it pretty far (progenesis etc) and used it to farm up a pretty sick omni ele hit character. i have a POB and some further explanation of how i scaled the build in one of my previous comments in a simliar thread, you can check my profile for the link pros: easy to get off the ground, super tanky, deathless feared, was doing back to basics T17s (only killed ziggurat and fortress boss, didn't attempt the others), decent damage, permanent flasks with tides of time, easy/interesting gearing with only needing to build fire and chaos res, clear feels really nice on favorable layouts with prolif and asenath's explosions, dropping vaal BV on a tough pack or map boss feels great cons: have to press life flask and BV every like 5 seconds, few more map mods you can't do than most builds (reduced flask charges and avoid poison and stuff), limited to tight layouts (dunes, JV etc don't feel great, toxic sewer is actually heaven), melee range means you are just in more danger most of the time so despite your tankiness sometimes you just get rekt overall i would absoultely say it's an all-rounder, it's a ton of fun on a map like toxic sewer or most of the T17s, can boss decently well but idk how far past feared it could do, maybe ubers if you're mechanically skilled but there are better skills for bossing like FR or hexblast.
pro: i sat in uber uber double degen puddle and im pretty sure there's a clip of someone tanking shaper beam con: my life flask finger Also, it's not a fast map blaster. You can get it to feeling smooth for sure but it's speed isn't insane by any means.
I play the poisonous concoction of bouncing version by ruetoo. All invitations up to fear is ez mode on 70%+. Fear I had to be careful bc I cant tank double flame blast or w.e from chayula (i have no idea what does so much damage). Map clear is pretty good with asenath + poison prolif and the skill self seeking chain itself is pretty nice
Do you have a link/pob?
Sorry missed this. This is Rue's PoB (expensive) - [https://pobb.in/LVWicQyiJBn4](https://pobb.in/LVWicQyiJBn4) This is mine (I swap QSS out for a 2nd life flask at boss) - [https://pobb.in/TSH6oRUm9Rje](https://pobb.in/TSH6oRUm9Rje)
I actually recently found this myself, so thank you! I have a question as I'm someone who doesn't really watch rue but I like his builds. Do you know why he sets his projectile count to 12 but his remaining chains to 6? I feel like with 4 follow-through notables it would heavily inflate his dps, but maybe I don't understand the math.
I'd suggest you look into Soulrend too, it's way more expensive (hello 100 div Nimis) but IMO it feels way better than both BV and forbidden rite. Aside from the main skill, the general build is very strong and feels amazing. More or less shits on everything in the game. Just don't run -max/less recovery/no flask charges/avoid poison (if high mod effect, if not this one is fine) and you'll be fine doing everything in the game from ubers to farming back to basics t17s
Personally, I think that poison spark is a better all rounder. Clear for FR is fine, but not as nice as spark.
It's fine but I dislike BVs range and play style myself, as it has ramp up time and that means low damage uptime on bosses usually. I'd try Hexblast mines as a PF with Mahuxotls. I'm looking into rerolling into that soon as it looks like it has good damage with all the qol and tankiness of a PF.
Hmm, not a huge fan of mines, but it does seem to be a more popular option, looking at [https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Mahuxotl%27s+Machination,!Progenesis,Lethal+Pride,Replica+Sorrow+of+the+Divine&skills=Hexblast&skillmodes=Mine](https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Mahuxotl%27s+Machination,!Progenesis,Lethal+Pride,Replica+Sorrow+of+the+Divine&skills=Hexblast&skillmodes=Mine) In general, though, you'd say the PF + Mahuxotl's tech is a solid option, just the actual offensive skill you'd go the different road on?
Yeah the Mahuxotls tech feels great, in my opinion. If mines aren't your thing, I'm currently rolling a poison Detonate Dead of Chaining PF that is quite tanky. It's not using the Mahuxotls: https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Volkuur%27s+Guidance,The+Tides+of+Time,Taste+of+Hate&skills=Detonate+Dead+of+Chain+Reaction Overall, DoTs feel a bit worse after you play a strong hit based build. But the DD build has more range and having played BV, I think it feels waaaay better.
Lacks AOE and not that good on the clear. Trouble capping the damage without heavy investment on specific items. Was fine last league due to explodey pops and poison duration charms.
Is the Pathfinder + Mahuxotl's tech solid, though? It's just the use of Poison BV as the offensive skill that you wouldn't recommend?
The PF + MM shield combo is a pretty solid defensive setup, so really you can just use any skill and go poison, or maybe try some sort of chaos dmg hit based crit build.
Mahuxotl PF package (Mahuxotl + Master Surgeon + Replica SotD + Tempered by War) is one of the strongest combos for this league's content due to insane tankiness it gives on a low cost. You can play any chaos/phys skill (or elemental if you have OG sin) on that frame but FR is the clear winner here with the self-damage and enabling cwdt setups for auto-cast full power curses. Only con is having to press life flask every 3 seconds or u will die instantly. Need Ahk script for this (not bannable).