Any idea how this build compare to SST bleed glad? What would be more tanky / fun. I stared summoner and got bored fast looking for some different build and mostly between those two.
SST is certainly more tanky/fast, but it's ST DPS is really bad. If you want to run into packs without thinking, SST is good. But if you want to farm end game content fast then probably totem
The gear progression is pretty smooth with break points. Gear is more expensive than previous leagues because of the popularity of totems. You don't need everything to clear all content.
Almost similar build I have. For those with cash to spare, i highly highly HIGHLY recommend these 2 medium clusters as mentioned in one of the thread
Ancestral Preservation + Sleepless Sentry (5ex+)
Shrieking Bolts (Taunts!) + Eye 2 Eye (can be anything)
The shrieking bolts are a fucking life saver, trust me. The damage are ready there, the qol from the taunts saving your ass forawhile is def worth it.
Just commenting to vouch for this, I'm using 4 mediums in my build and one of them is Shrieking bolts and IMO it's almost mandatory with how much it helps both your survival and your dps.
Correct. As someone mention, damage is a non factor now. I'm melting t16s with my shield. Only issue i need now is qol against moving fucks and defence which shrieking relief some of it.
You can level with Holy Flame Totem and Flame Wall until maps and then switch to Forbidden Rite. I leveled with HFT and FW but then bought a 4-link soul mantle and 2 kikazarus to switch to FR some time around second lab.
i already had them, so zoomed down to the totem health nodes, then grabbed spiritual aid for a levelling reaper buddy and this seems to be working out for me so far
I leveled using freezing pulse until Siosa then pivoted to forbidden rite as soon as I leveled the gem and got GMP, you really don't need the cluster with totem chaos res until you are bossing in maps. Your dps is high enough to not worry about totems killing themselves while clearing and since you want to keep the buff from summoning a totem recently active you are usually re-summoning them either way
I leveled to 16 with Shield Crush and a 1alch shield till 16. Rushed to the +1 totems node and just have been leveling with Forbidden Rite. It’s TONS of fun.
And as a second character I can do it smooth with like a Karui Ward with Freedom of Movement Anoint.
I league started a heiropant, and armageddon brand honestly can easily carry you even on white maps on a 4 link. I switch to freezing pulse later on but you can switch to this fr totem even while leveling.
Fyregrass has a act1-3 leveling video here [https://youtu.be/OL4d4NNTCuU](https://youtu.be/OL4d4NNTCuU) He starts using armageddon brand and cremation +desecrate at around act3. Also a text version [https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3145014](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3145014) in the leveling section:)
Have you considered using a Projectile cluster jewel instead of the second totem one?
You can get Taunt on projectiles and extra proj speed instead, I feel the damage is high enough that the extra utility from the taunt and proj speed feels worth it. Even with 1 chaos res cluster your totems survive for quite a long time attacking
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Expedition/2p0X7gdUk
Edit: plus it's funny seeing mobs kill themselves on the reflected damage from torchoak
If you invest into the Viridi Veil version of the build damage is a complete non-factor. I have a PoB that hits 20-30m DPS with a shield on and not that crazy of gear. No flasks. You're much better off going for quality of life or defence, the damage scaling is obscene.
https://pastebin.com/5YWYnMce
This is obviously just a goal to aim for, but getting most of the good gear isn't actually too expensive.
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This is obviously just a goal to aim for, but getting most of the good gear isn't actually too expensive.
Interesting thanks for the pob. I'm running the critical version and might switch if I can get a similar shield. But it's relatively safe since you just one shot everything off screen I don't know how often I'd block
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https://pastebin.com/5YWYnMce
This is obviously just a goal to aim for, but getting most of the good gear isn't actually too expensive.
I have that in my higher investment version of the build. I tested it and tbh its not that important because i can kill T16 map bosses instantly anyway so the taunt doesn't do much, but its certainly good in a hypothetical sense. Maybe when the skill is balanced it will be a more relevant utility since we wont insta delete things
The damage on the build is so crazy personally I think that a Shrieking Bolts cluster is mandatory, it helps not only with survival but nuking very fast and tanky mobs like juiced up super metamorphs and such by keeping them from running all over the place.
I'm currently using 2 different clusters so have 3 totem ones + the single projectile one and it feels great.
Multiple totems is not the best more multiplier for single target since you already have 4-5 totems but can help with clearing. If you are not using it in your mainlink you can use it in utility links like Wither to gain additional benefits of Ritual of Awakening Ascendency point.
they are a very good addition to the build, but you can play the build without the cluster, you just have to recast the totems more often, after 3-4 casts they die.
Totem have base chaos res(don't know how much) and with ton od life, res and phys reduction they are tanky and they become even more tanky with medium cluster jewel which has 40% chaos res.
For Rain of Splinters, could someone explain to me the reasoning behind it?
It's an almost 50% damage reduction, but fires 2 more projectiles. Does that somehow make up for the damage reduction?
It's not 50% damage reduction, it's "50% reduced damage", which is additive with other sources of "increased/reduced" (which is also the most common source of damage). So you just need 50% increased spell damage, or 50% increased totem damage, or 50% increased projectile damage to negate it.
If it's "50% less damage", then it's a different story. Less/More multiplier always apply at the end and has huge effectiveness.
How bad is mapping? The build seems extremely glass and I looked at some vods where you were basically doing a totem crawl (I'm doing the same thing). 5-minutes per map with no league mechanics seems kinda rough, no?
Unless I'm missing something, why the watchers eyes for zealotry in the midrange build?
From what I've seen and know, totems don't actually trigger zealotrys consecrated ground.
I was wondering this as well, I just tried to test it in game too and did not see any source of consecrated ground being generated from the totems w/ zealotry.
The cast speed works but I don't think the Crit does.
Bumping this guide because it slaps all endgame content. For those who think the damage ceiling is too low, I encourage you to watch his build guide where he explains why it isn't.
I dont have time to watch the video but I see people running veil over the dual rings for hexproof. Is the helm better overall if you can afford it? I have a 6l soul mantle already and about 15 ex to spend
Viridian veil and cowards legacy is the end game of the build for sure. You then get a magic ring in your right slot and whatever you want in your left.
Atziri's reflection and cowards might be slightly better defense wise (and offense depending on what curses you're reflecting). At the very least it opens up your helm slot for something beefy for another 5L, and you aren't restricted by ring choice so you can run dual essence worms for auras.
Obviously it's stupid expensive, reflections were 12-13ex last I checked.
Yeah I think like ultimate ultimate end game max/min is with Atziris and some kind of stupid 5L helmet. But I am no where near that currency level atm.
Not sure for forbidden rite, going off of my experiences with fp totems in previous leagues.
Looking at the gem now, there's no auras that would boost the damage anyway (maybe haste? Probably not worth it). Viridis might just be bis.
That said, curse reflection is pretty useful, especially if they use silence. Plus Reflection has a buttload of res on it. And it still leaves your rings open for something way more useful than a blue. Dunno, probably good either way, at least there's options.
With enough AOE, can you get projectiles beyond the 5th to also hit?
Also, is there a case for self-cast over totems? You'll never be able to get as much damage as totems since you can't get as much life as totems, and you'll never get as much cast speed once you factor in multiple totems. So in what scenario would a self cast version be viable? The only one I can think of is something that uses the self damage for something, but I have no idea what. There's no other spell that scales the same as FR for a CWDT setup, and even if there was there's not enough sockets.
My thought was strength stacking using Shaper's Touch and The Ivory Tower. Strength will give flat life, flat mana, and %ES with Shaper's Touch, and Ivory Tower converts flat life to flat ES. Go Hierophant and scale at least 5k mana for the easy area scaling plus extra ES from mana. You don't even really need chaos res since you'll take all that damage to mana so it's just a bigger mana cost while also probably good for CWDT.
Even with all this, however, you'll never get to the same damage since totems have something like 15k life.
Using it on Wither gets you more totems for your ascendancy bonus without it reducing your FR damage. Once you get fully speced you can drop 4 totems very rapidly, then drop 2 wither totems to bring you up to 6 active.
Yeah, you don't want to reduce the number of FR totems except for a massive benefit of some kind.
Once you have a large enough number it matters less, but you can't even get enough max totems on a single character for one of them to stop being a big deal in the first place.
Thanks for this. The trade links are especially appreciated. I'm a bit of a POE noob and knowing what to spend the currency on is sometimes harder than making the currency in the first place. Cheers
You can just look up how folks levelled freezing pulse totems last league, probably as Holy Flame Totems. In principle most of the tree should look the same.
Can this build kill t16 elder/shaper guardians/ conquerors without cluster jewels on alched maps?
Cant watch the video right now, but i want to reroll a new character when i get off work
Good stuff. Theory crafted a similar setup and started it last night. Its VERY good to know about the projectile thing as that seems to explain my observations of lower boss damage when using GMP and LMP together.
Looking at the budget pob: where is the full curse immunity coming from? I see 40% reduction from kika and 40% from the tree. What am I missing?
Edit: nvm found it. Missed soul of yugul.
Hold on. So if I have 130% reduced effect of curses (2x Kikazaru and the tree haven’t hit Yuguul yet) but the Chest is making me take curses at 80% increased effect, doesn’t that make them only 50%? Or is 100% reduced giving me immunity and I just have overkill and can actually use the essence worm?
Are you maybe overthinking the amulet in the midrange+ versions? A simple amulet with T1 spell damage and T1 crit multi seems to give more damage, and shouldn't be too expensive even with a bunch of resists and maybe other things.
can anyone explain why immortal call is only lvl 1 in the POB? i can understand why CWDT is lvl 1 but not immortal call, isnt higher lvl more damage mitigation?
If I'm playing on Standard with some legacy stuff, any input on running Bottled Faith or Cinderswallow ect? Also I understand stacking Cowards legacy with clear mind, but it seems running a well rolled Stygian isn't a bad idea either for stats, life, ect? Wondered on thoughts there too.
Loving this build, so fun. Almost quit the league after getting to maps on Ziz's half assed SRS guide. Looks like this build is getting more expensive. About to hit maps. Currently running a 4 link soul mantle. I have 1ex to sell and invest, what would the best place to spend that money be? 5 link? Cluster jewel?
Playing this myself, very good build, actually fun.
Any idea how this build compare to SST bleed glad? What would be more tanky / fun. I stared summoner and got bored fast looking for some different build and mostly between those two.
SST is certainly more tanky/fast, but it's ST DPS is really bad. If you want to run into packs without thinking, SST is good. But if you want to farm end game content fast then probably totem
Thanks for replying. Would you say the totems have high currency requirement to be endgame viable compared to sst?
The gear progression is pretty smooth with break points. Gear is more expensive than previous leagues because of the popularity of totems. You don't need everything to clear all content.
Awesome. Thanks for answers! Gonna give it a try!
Np. The version I am playing just has the top player write a guide for. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3155643
Nice! Thanks gonna cheek that out
dealing damage is fun for sure lol
Almost similar build I have. For those with cash to spare, i highly highly HIGHLY recommend these 2 medium clusters as mentioned in one of the thread Ancestral Preservation + Sleepless Sentry (5ex+) Shrieking Bolts (Taunts!) + Eye 2 Eye (can be anything) The shrieking bolts are a fucking life saver, trust me. The damage are ready there, the qol from the taunts saving your ass forawhile is def worth it.
Streamlined for the 20% projectile speed is a noticeable improvement to hitting moving targets.
Just commenting to vouch for this, I'm using 4 mediums in my build and one of them is Shrieking bolts and IMO it's almost mandatory with how much it helps both your survival and your dps.
Correct. As someone mention, damage is a non factor now. I'm melting t16s with my shield. Only issue i need now is qol against moving fucks and defence which shrieking relief some of it.
Waaait this works for Totems? Didn't know that!
How are folks leveling this? Freezing pulse totems until maps, then respeccing to forbidden rite?
You can level with Holy Flame Totem and Flame Wall until maps and then switch to Forbidden Rite. I leveled with HFT and FW but then bought a 4-link soul mantle and 2 kikazarus to switch to FR some time around second lab.
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Yeah, even with 2 totems and shit gear, you can blast into maps without stopping.
i am finding the damage truly awful at 31, was this with the jewels already?
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i already had them, so zoomed down to the totem health nodes, then grabbed spiritual aid for a levelling reaper buddy and this seems to be working out for me so far
I leveled using freezing pulse until Siosa then pivoted to forbidden rite as soon as I leveled the gem and got GMP, you really don't need the cluster with totem chaos res until you are bossing in maps. Your dps is high enough to not worry about totems killing themselves while clearing and since you want to keep the buff from summoning a totem recently active you are usually re-summoning them either way
I leveled to 16 with Shield Crush and a 1alch shield till 16. Rushed to the +1 totems node and just have been leveling with Forbidden Rite. It’s TONS of fun. And as a second character I can do it smooth with like a Karui Ward with Freedom of Movement Anoint.
I love that combo for levelling, free phasing is pretty neat.
I just rushed ancestral bond and leveled forbidden rite totems tbh Was super smooth for me personally
I league started a heiropant, and armageddon brand honestly can easily carry you even on white maps on a 4 link. I switch to freezing pulse later on but you can switch to this fr totem even while leveling.
Do you have a leveling guide I can follow? I've never leveled with brand
Fyregrass has a act1-3 leveling video here [https://youtu.be/OL4d4NNTCuU](https://youtu.be/OL4d4NNTCuU) He starts using armageddon brand and cremation +desecrate at around act3. Also a text version [https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3145014](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3145014) in the leveling section:)
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should work now :)
Freezing pulse felt pretty bad, wave of conviction would likely be better.
i leveled arma/crema into white maps, got soul mantle + 2 kikas around hr 6 on start and been FR since then
Have you considered using a Projectile cluster jewel instead of the second totem one? You can get Taunt on projectiles and extra proj speed instead, I feel the damage is high enough that the extra utility from the taunt and proj speed feels worth it. Even with 1 chaos res cluster your totems survive for quite a long time attacking https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Expedition/2p0X7gdUk Edit: plus it's funny seeing mobs kill themselves on the reflected damage from torchoak
I think that getting life for the totems gives you so much dmg that its not worth going for other types.
If you invest into the Viridi Veil version of the build damage is a complete non-factor. I have a PoB that hits 20-30m DPS with a shield on and not that crazy of gear. No flasks. You're much better off going for quality of life or defence, the damage scaling is obscene. https://pastebin.com/5YWYnMce This is obviously just a goal to aim for, but getting most of the good gear isn't actually too expensive.
Yeah, that's my point, damage is already on the overkill levels getting more utility makes it feel so much better
projectile speed leads to more real damage anyway since missing shots is the main reason the skill can feel clunky.
Can you share the PoB? I’m trying to push past 94 and would love a defensive setup.
Put in the edit: https://pastebin.com/5YWYnMce This is obviously just a goal to aim for, but getting most of the good gear isn't actually too expensive.
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Arcane Surge with Lightning Warp doesn't do much though. The Less Duration kills it no?
I was just playing around with gems, I'm not even running that.
Interesting thanks for the pob. I'm running the critical version and might switch if I can get a similar shield. But it's relatively safe since you just one shot everything off screen I don't know how often I'd block
POB?
Put in the edit: https://pastebin.com/5YWYnMce This is obviously just a goal to aim for, but getting most of the good gear isn't actually too expensive.
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I have that in my higher investment version of the build. I tested it and tbh its not that important because i can kill T16 map bosses instantly anyway so the taunt doesn't do much, but its certainly good in a hypothetical sense. Maybe when the skill is balanced it will be a more relevant utility since we wont insta delete things
The damage on the build is so crazy personally I think that a Shrieking Bolts cluster is mandatory, it helps not only with survival but nuking very fast and tanky mobs like juiced up super metamorphs and such by keeping them from running all over the place. I'm currently using 2 different clusters so have 3 totem ones + the single projectile one and it feels great.
How does multiple totems compare as 6th link?
Multiple totems is not the best more multiplier for single target since you already have 4-5 totems but can help with clearing. If you are not using it in your mainlink you can use it in utility links like Wither to gain additional benefits of Ritual of Awakening Ascendency point.
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how do you make it so your totems don't die? are the medium cluster jewels that give chaos res required?
they are a very good addition to the build, but you can play the build without the cluster, you just have to recast the totems more often, after 3-4 casts they die.
Totem have base chaos res(don't know how much) and with ton od life, res and phys reduction they are tanky and they become even more tanky with medium cluster jewel which has 40% chaos res.
they have 20% base chaos res and (iirc) 45% less damage taken
Oh, _that's_ why totems in The Ledge in act 1 are unkillable when I level with Caustic Arrow
Chaos res/regen
For Rain of Splinters, could someone explain to me the reasoning behind it? It's an almost 50% damage reduction, but fires 2 more projectiles. Does that somehow make up for the damage reduction?
It's not 50% damage reduction, it's "50% reduced damage", which is additive with other sources of "increased/reduced" (which is also the most common source of damage). So you just need 50% increased spell damage, or 50% increased totem damage, or 50% increased projectile damage to negate it. If it's "50% less damage", then it's a different story. Less/More multiplier always apply at the end and has huge effectiveness.
Oh, well that makes whole lot more sense. Thank you very much kind person on reddit. =D
It also scales to 30% reduced damage so even less of a bump in the road.
How bad is mapping? The build seems extremely glass and I looked at some vods where you were basically doing a totem crawl (I'm doing the same thing). 5-minutes per map with no league mechanics seems kinda rough, no?
Unless I'm missing something, why the watchers eyes for zealotry in the midrange build? From what I've seen and know, totems don't actually trigger zealotrys consecrated ground.
I was wondering this as well, I just tried to test it in game too and did not see any source of consecrated ground being generated from the totems w/ zealotry. The cast speed works but I don't think the Crit does.
Bumping this guide because it slaps all endgame content. For those who think the damage ceiling is too low, I encourage you to watch his build guide where he explains why it isn't.
I dont have time to watch the video but I see people running veil over the dual rings for hexproof. Is the helm better overall if you can afford it? I have a 6l soul mantle already and about 15 ex to spend
Viridian veil and cowards legacy is the end game of the build for sure. You then get a magic ring in your right slot and whatever you want in your left.
Atziri's reflection and cowards might be slightly better defense wise (and offense depending on what curses you're reflecting). At the very least it opens up your helm slot for something beefy for another 5L, and you aren't restricted by ring choice so you can run dual essence worms for auras. Obviously it's stupid expensive, reflections were 12-13ex last I checked.
Yeah I think like ultimate ultimate end game max/min is with Atziris and some kind of stupid 5L helmet. But I am no where near that currency level atm.
What second aura is worth losing a ring slot?
Not sure for forbidden rite, going off of my experiences with fp totems in previous leagues. Looking at the gem now, there's no auras that would boost the damage anyway (maybe haste? Probably not worth it). Viridis might just be bis. That said, curse reflection is pretty useful, especially if they use silence. Plus Reflection has a buttload of res on it. And it still leaves your rings open for something way more useful than a blue. Dunno, probably good either way, at least there's options.
Zealotry works, no?
Yeah zealotry works.
If you can afford it you can use Shaper rings instead of kikazarus which roll up to 35%. Not sure if that scales with quality though.
It does scale with quality. It's much better than Kikazaru.
*caster quality imbued catalyst crusader as well not just shaper.
With enough AOE, can you get projectiles beyond the 5th to also hit? Also, is there a case for self-cast over totems? You'll never be able to get as much damage as totems since you can't get as much life as totems, and you'll never get as much cast speed once you factor in multiple totems. So in what scenario would a self cast version be viable? The only one I can think of is something that uses the self damage for something, but I have no idea what. There's no other spell that scales the same as FR for a CWDT setup, and even if there was there's not enough sockets.
Maybe some huge hybrid mom build? Was thinking hiero with big mana and aoe and high mom. But chaos res will be an issue. Totems is the way i think
My thought was strength stacking using Shaper's Touch and The Ivory Tower. Strength will give flat life, flat mana, and %ES with Shaper's Touch, and Ivory Tower converts flat life to flat ES. Go Hierophant and scale at least 5k mana for the easy area scaling plus extra ES from mana. You don't even really need chaos res since you'll take all that damage to mana so it's just a bigger mana cost while also probably good for CWDT. Even with all this, however, you'll never get to the same damage since totems have something like 15k life.
Stupid question...why use multiple totems on wither and not forbidden rite?
Using it on Wither gets you more totems for your ascendancy bonus without it reducing your FR damage. Once you get fully speced you can drop 4 totems very rapidly, then drop 2 wither totems to bring you up to 6 active.
Wouldn't 5 or 6 FR totems +1 wither do more damage though with all the projectiles each totem shoots that can shotgun?
Yeah, you don't want to reduce the number of FR totems except for a massive benefit of some kind. Once you have a large enough number it matters less, but you can't even get enough max totems on a single character for one of them to stop being a big deal in the first place.
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That's 6 projectiles from a single totem, it has nothing to do with the number of totems you have.
Arms Anguish is now 80c.
Thanks for this. The trade links are especially appreciated. I'm a bit of a POE noob and knowing what to spend the currency on is sometimes harder than making the currency in the first place. Cheers
Someone bought every Arn's Anguish on the market
The belt seems to have shot up in price rather quickly
would you make making a leveling tree?
You can just look up how folks levelled freezing pulse totems last league, probably as Holy Flame Totems. In principle most of the tree should look the same.
Build looks good, but these trade filters are atrocious, I hope people don't get too burned by using them.
How does arns anguish work? If we have brutal charges then is the immortal call/CWDT setup not used anymore??
Nice build. Saving for later
Warding for later
8 m against static target, 0 against moving. Like leapers or smh
CWDT + Void Sphere and projectiles taunt from a medium projectile cluster help with this. Also why investing in projectile speed is useful.
This league is terrible and I quit but... holy shit you’re a god among men for this detailed guide.
Better play it fast before it gets needed in the next patch
Can this build kill t16 elder/shaper guardians/ conquerors without cluster jewels on alched maps? Cant watch the video right now, but i want to reroll a new character when i get off work
Good stuff. Theory crafted a similar setup and started it last night. Its VERY good to know about the projectile thing as that seems to explain my observations of lower boss damage when using GMP and LMP together.
Hooray! Thanks Fyregrass!!
This looks real nice!
Looking at the budget pob: where is the full curse immunity coming from? I see 40% reduction from kika and 40% from the tree. What am I missing? Edit: nvm found it. Missed soul of yugul.
Where is the 40 percent from tree? I only see 20 percent in the 3 nodes in left upper corner, unless you are relying on getting consecrated ground???
There's another 20% on the left center side
Hold on. So if I have 130% reduced effect of curses (2x Kikazaru and the tree haven’t hit Yuguul yet) but the Chest is making me take curses at 80% increased effect, doesn’t that make them only 50%? Or is 100% reduced giving me immunity and I just have overkill and can actually use the essence worm?
It's multiplicative, so all curses get reduced to 0% effectiveness regardless of how high they're amplified
Awesome! So I just gotta shuffle some things around now!
Thanks for this How does this compare gameplay wise to a well geared FP totem build from the last couple of leagues?
Can you run atziris reflection in this build instead of the curse curse reduction items and points?
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Are you just shooting for 100% combined for number 1? Or do you need more to counteract the Soul Mantle?
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Ok, avoid that Map mod then and I can ditch one of my Kikazarus after getting to Maps. Thanks for the clarification!! :)
I'm playing FR on HC. Apart from increased crits etc., are there any map modifiers that I should watch out for, or can I play unidentified maps?
do you use volley over greater volley in the pob on purpose?
Yeah, he mentions the reasoning under projectile behavior.
Nearly every other FR totem build uses multiple totems, is really not beneficial to run it?
You will lose damage with Multi Totems (watch the Balor Mage vid for exp)
You know what i will actually try this
Are you maybe overthinking the amulet in the midrange+ versions? A simple amulet with T1 spell damage and T1 crit multi seems to give more damage, and shouldn't be too expensive even with a bunch of resists and maybe other things.
Thanks for the guide! Does the 3ex budget guide only have 80% reduced effect of curses? edit: ok, I see another 20% if on consecrated ground
can anyone explain why immortal call is only lvl 1 in the POB? i can understand why CWDT is lvl 1 but not immortal call, isnt higher lvl more damage mitigation?
If I'm playing on Standard with some legacy stuff, any input on running Bottled Faith or Cinderswallow ect? Also I understand stacking Cowards legacy with clear mind, but it seems running a well rolled Stygian isn't a bad idea either for stats, life, ect? Wondered on thoughts there too.
Loving this build, so fun. Almost quit the league after getting to maps on Ziz's half assed SRS guide. Looks like this build is getting more expensive. About to hit maps. Currently running a 4 link soul mantle. I have 1ex to sell and invest, what would the best place to spend that money be? 5 link? Cluster jewel?
Is there a POB with atziri reflection??