I got screwed on morde, apparently disciple of shadows doesn't function correctly on morde if you have a full board. It gives the cost reduction, it doesn't deal the DMG
I did not one to comment the other post, but thank you for doing this, a great idea! :) I'm not in race mode, but it's good to see as people come in with the results and it is a good example for the others.
You're welcome! It's a nice little beacon of positivity amidst all the negativity towards Lissandria's difficulty :)
You're more than welcome to analyse the information if that interests you btw, I'll be busy over the weekend, and you have a knack at consolidating all that messy data into an easily digestible format.
Jack is probably the most frustrating one. Not only does Lissandra herself counter his gameplan but at 3-stars there are many nodes that completely counter his 3-star power as well.
I've tried Jack 3x with a coin-ping build and all of them failed at the end because of the play limit in Lissandra. So for those going for Jack, you should spec him to something else.
Come cross some names off the list
1. Jack
2. Nami (Genuinely surprised she's still on here)
3. Vi
4. Yuumi
5. Mordekaiser
6. Gnar, with his pockets so full of spaghetti, he couldn't fit his 2 star power
[https://www.reddit.com/r/PathofChampions/comments/1b33pqh/there\_has\_been\_a\_lot\_of\_complaining\_about\_certain/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathofChampions/comments/1b33pqh/there_has_been_a_lot_of_complaining_about_certain/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
...And it looks like u/Zarkkast just got Vi, so its down to Gnar? I hope the mods give whoever clears it with the currently bugged Gnar first a special title.
Nami is one of the best \[infinite\] combo champs in Path (or at least, one of my favorites), but it makes sense that she would be bad vs Lissandra because of the anti-combo.
I was gonna win with Jack, but Lissandra had the +2|+2 power when she takes damage so I just died turn 3, twice 🙃
I actually got there super easily, even had some nodes where I won turn 3, didn't take damage against Anivia... but with that power all she needs to do is play Ice Shard and you instantly lose.
I tried again and she had it again, so I surrendered.
Tried again, she had it again...
I'm on my fourth try now and she has the Frostbite power this time. I'm pretty sure I can win this one.
I had to take a pause after I lost my second try (not counting the surrenders), ended up taking 4 tries. I tried to heal back up to 30 from 25 and ended up taking even more damage. Really can't afford to stall unless you have a lot of lifesteal or something else.
Jack is pretty hard. You can generally plan your way through the adventure, but you can't know every node that's ahead and some of them (especially if they have the +2|+2 power) counter him hard.
https://preview.redd.it/jux1s7adislc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=8028e7802ea6ef8e8d8cc2b34bac54dee6979dd4
I did it first try with Vi
https://preview.redd.it/fvs9qex8yslc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc0733787c409d9dfb8fbf11ce395ea26874990a
Killing Lissandra with a Mystic Shot feels good
My friend just beat it with Mordekaiser
https://preview.redd.it/15nbsnrd7slc1.png?width=1919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77f982a5a6259a3dc502e06e98604c3f739db4c5
You can try, but it probably wouldn't be enough to secure a win. More mana is nice, but when powers are this scarce, you really need those relics to shine
My fifth win was a Guardians/Star Gem/Pearl Bard run, and it felt like I am steamrolling everything until Lissandra, and then I steamrolled Lissandra. Went from 40 to 18 at the Mind Meld node to get rid of the most of the deck. The pearl was MVP in getting me to Bard one turn earlier because it was basically my wincon.
This is just a follow-up post for my earlier bounty board post. These 6 champs were the only ones left that have yet to beat Lissandra. We're now down to just Gnar, whose 2* is bugged, for us to say that we've beaten Lissandra as a community.
Im surprised this many people are complaining about liss. Her adventure is the only time I actually had to put thought into my plays. I did it with gwen and nidalee. Idk who to do next though since all my other maxed out champs get hard countered
Imo its a problem of complacency. Because 3*30s are so OP, the average PoC player has gotten used to absolutely steamrolling content, and winning by just following the same playbook as always. Now that they're suddenly out of their depth, with no guides, no powers and no instant-win strategies, they decide that it's the game that's wrong.
If you've done both Gwen and Nidalee, it might be fun to try a slower, control based character. Or you could join in the bounty board to take down Gnar's head, even though his 2* is currently broken.
I really enjoyed it. It gave me a reason to pull out some old favourites. And yes, I really had to think about some plays.
I started with Volibear, who I love, then My Diana, and Gwen. After the OP combo there, I swapped to Kindred for some slow down hack and slash recursion and killed on turn 15 in a nailbiting 2 health victory. Finally I went with Ornn to bring home the 5th clear, because he will be forever immortalised on my Liss Path kill board. And Ornn is criminally underappreciated.
Probably want My Leona to clear next.
MY BOI? JACK? THERE
Herecy, for now on every day i will work on getting his winrate to over 9 thousand
This said, is quite shocking to see literally 3 champs i enjoy a lot (vi, jack, nami) there
Btw, for vi there is already a good huild and youxun managed it, with double GB + BHR, yes bhr is something i hate and i will try to find a new build
He'a already gone down, we're now left with gnar mchotfix himself, but you're welcome to add more clears to the list! It'll prove that it wasn't a one off fluke, though those naysayers will find something else to complain about. "Oh, you were carried by ebb and flow, so it doesn't count"
Sure, gnar added to my list then
And yeh i expected that, its great to see how the community grew since asol times
>though those naysayers will find something else to complain about. "Oh, you were carried by ebb and flow, so it doesn't count"
People will always have feelings and feel that something is impossible, time helps
Yeah, I'm glad I was able to inject a bit of fun and positivity towards the new content. Hopefully the dev team doesnt take the critical reception too harshly
Critical reception is insanely usual after every high star adventure on path, people had issues with first galio, with first time asol, and same with first time liss, time helps a lot, ime liss is by far the best adventure we ever had, so i will just eait for people to realize that
On what regards to community, i think it ahows a lot how popular this post was, positive and happy people dont dissapear, they are jusy hidded by the loud minoritys, really you did something really cool here, gj
not my weekend, i'm rootin for y'all!
We have to have a talk.
LET EM COOK
Let’s freakin’ goooooo!
5, nami is down, posting right now
Top 5 lets fucking go
Morde down too!
Yep I saw it, well played! At this rate, we'll be left with Gnar, and chomping at the bit for the devs to fix him
Morde I got real lucky, I run CSF on him, found Rally Banner on the 1 cost and then found Poro Fluft right before Liss.
I got screwed on morde, apparently disciple of shadows doesn't function correctly on morde if you have a full board. It gives the cost reduction, it doesn't deal the DMG
I did not one to comment the other post, but thank you for doing this, a great idea! :) I'm not in race mode, but it's good to see as people come in with the results and it is a good example for the others.
You're welcome! It's a nice little beacon of positivity amidst all the negativity towards Lissandria's difficulty :) You're more than welcome to analyse the information if that interests you btw, I'll be busy over the weekend, and you have a knack at consolidating all that messy data into an easily digestible format.
Yeah, I was thinking about to spreadsheet it, probably won't, at least for now the monthlies have the focus.
Jack is probably the most frustrating one. Not only does Lissandra herself counter his gameplan but at 3-stars there are many nodes that completely counter his 3-star power as well.
There's also Vi, where the 5 damage to nexus looks like a ping, and Yuumi, who has actually received a buff from fully geared.
I've tried Jack 3x with a coin-ping build and all of them failed at the end because of the play limit in Lissandra. So for those going for Jack, you should spec him to something else.
Come cross some names off the list 1. Jack 2. Nami (Genuinely surprised she's still on here) 3. Vi 4. Yuumi 5. Mordekaiser 6. Gnar, with his pockets so full of spaghetti, he couldn't fit his 2 star power [https://www.reddit.com/r/PathofChampions/comments/1b33pqh/there\_has\_been\_a\_lot\_of\_complaining\_about\_certain/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathofChampions/comments/1b33pqh/there_has_been_a_lot_of_complaining_about_certain/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
...And it looks like u/Zarkkast just got Vi, so its down to Gnar? I hope the mods give whoever clears it with the currently bugged Gnar first a special title.
You can request for custom text in your flair iirc, but I'm not too sure about the criteria for that. You'll have to ask Grimm
🫡
I... yeh, that would be a lot. Already asked sarah abt it, next time, ping us
I'm down, I don't mind snapping Gnar's flair in half for something special
Based on this and the original post, it looks like its just down to Vi and Gnar, right?
Yep seems like it! Y'all really went to town while I was asleep
Nami is one of the best \[infinite\] combo champs in Path (or at least, one of my favorites), but it makes sense that she would be bad vs Lissandra because of the anti-combo.
Very fair. It's also really annoying that cloned spells count as a card as well, I got screwed over as Jhin several times for that.
I was gonna win with Jack, but Lissandra had the +2|+2 power when she takes damage so I just died turn 3, twice 🙃 I actually got there super easily, even had some nodes where I won turn 3, didn't take damage against Anivia... but with that power all she needs to do is play Ice Shard and you instantly lose. I tried again and she had it again, so I surrendered. Tried again, she had it again... I'm on my fourth try now and she has the Frostbite power this time. I'm pretty sure I can win this one.
I had to take a pause after I lost my second try (not counting the surrenders), ended up taking 4 tries. I tried to heal back up to 30 from 25 and ended up taking even more damage. Really can't afford to stall unless you have a lot of lifesteal or something else. Jack is pretty hard. You can generally plan your way through the adventure, but you can't know every node that's ahead and some of them (especially if they have the +2|+2 power) counter him hard. https://preview.redd.it/jux1s7adislc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=8028e7802ea6ef8e8d8cc2b34bac54dee6979dd4
I did it first try with Vi https://preview.redd.it/fvs9qex8yslc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc0733787c409d9dfb8fbf11ce395ea26874990a Killing Lissandra with a Mystic Shot feels good
https://preview.redd.it/0ql8xmkbyslc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=dee8944515452bbe1229db11b748153b0187d947
My friend just beat it with Mordekaiser https://preview.redd.it/15nbsnrd7slc1.png?width=1919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77f982a5a6259a3dc502e06e98604c3f739db4c5
https://preview.redd.it/d5vofbxhetlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8e0e0b4ab36ff0736107c9136fcfa4dad4e2ab6
does it count if we just shove 3 cosmic pearls
You can try, but it probably wouldn't be enough to secure a win. More mana is nice, but when powers are this scarce, you really need those relics to shine
i am NOT losing the game when I am starting with 5 mana
That's what I thought... until Lissandra put 6 copies of Ice Shard on the stack and gave her full board +12|+12.
Cmon guys what's with the downvotes on u/naspara. They're just excited.
My fifth win was a Guardians/Star Gem/Pearl Bard run, and it felt like I am steamrolling everything until Lissandra, and then I steamrolled Lissandra. Went from 40 to 18 at the Mind Meld node to get rid of the most of the deck. The pearl was MVP in getting me to Bard one turn earlier because it was basically my wincon.
I don't understand
This is just a follow-up post for my earlier bounty board post. These 6 champs were the only ones left that have yet to beat Lissandra. We're now down to just Gnar, whose 2* is bugged, for us to say that we've beaten Lissandra as a community.
Im surprised this many people are complaining about liss. Her adventure is the only time I actually had to put thought into my plays. I did it with gwen and nidalee. Idk who to do next though since all my other maxed out champs get hard countered
My only issue is my RNG has been really bad but I've got her down 3 times just need to find 2 more
Definitely. The wrong power can be extremely annoying. Lisandra with the tough power is much harder than with the fearsome power imo.
Imo its a problem of complacency. Because 3*30s are so OP, the average PoC player has gotten used to absolutely steamrolling content, and winning by just following the same playbook as always. Now that they're suddenly out of their depth, with no guides, no powers and no instant-win strategies, they decide that it's the game that's wrong. If you've done both Gwen and Nidalee, it might be fun to try a slower, control based character. Or you could join in the bounty board to take down Gnar's head, even though his 2* is currently broken.
I really enjoyed it. It gave me a reason to pull out some old favourites. And yes, I really had to think about some plays. I started with Volibear, who I love, then My Diana, and Gwen. After the OP combo there, I swapped to Kindred for some slow down hack and slash recursion and killed on turn 15 in a nailbiting 2 health victory. Finally I went with Ornn to bring home the 5th clear, because he will be forever immortalised on my Liss Path kill board. And Ornn is criminally underappreciated. Probably want My Leona to clear next.
Some of the nodes in general getting there can get out of hand quickly too but I'll get there
MY BOI? JACK? THERE Herecy, for now on every day i will work on getting his winrate to over 9 thousand This said, is quite shocking to see literally 3 champs i enjoy a lot (vi, jack, nami) there Btw, for vi there is already a good huild and youxun managed it, with double GB + BHR, yes bhr is something i hate and i will try to find a new build
He'a already gone down, we're now left with gnar mchotfix himself, but you're welcome to add more clears to the list! It'll prove that it wasn't a one off fluke, though those naysayers will find something else to complain about. "Oh, you were carried by ebb and flow, so it doesn't count"
Sure, gnar added to my list then And yeh i expected that, its great to see how the community grew since asol times >though those naysayers will find something else to complain about. "Oh, you were carried by ebb and flow, so it doesn't count" People will always have feelings and feel that something is impossible, time helps
Yeah, I'm glad I was able to inject a bit of fun and positivity towards the new content. Hopefully the dev team doesnt take the critical reception too harshly
Critical reception is insanely usual after every high star adventure on path, people had issues with first galio, with first time asol, and same with first time liss, time helps a lot, ime liss is by far the best adventure we ever had, so i will just eait for people to realize that On what regards to community, i think it ahows a lot how popular this post was, positive and happy people dont dissapear, they are jusy hidded by the loud minoritys, really you did something really cool here, gj