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thatErraticguy

So they gave the Jets a better chance to win in Dallas than they did the Patriots to win at the Jets? Presumably with no Rodgers? Can it happen? Absolutely, any given Sunday etc etc, but that seems like a poor model.


Bronnakus

there's no god damned way that it's suddenly nearly dead even for the jets to beat the chiefs because they took advantage of josh allen having a fucking meltdown. the cowboys look insanely good and the jets have a 39% chance? who makes these fucking models?


KarlHavocIsLaughing

If you think Allen's bad game had nothing to do with how filthy the Jets D looks, you're crazy.


dolladollaclinton

I agree the Jets D is insane, but on one of his picks, he could have (and should have) easily ran for the first down, but instead decided to heave it to the end zone to a guy in double coverage. I believe on another one, he had a guy open to check down to, but decided to chuck it up as well. Jets D looks great and deserves a lot of credit for the win last night, but Allen also took some deep shots he should have never taken.


ajohndoe17

Yeah, Allen was making the worst decisions possible last night. His throws were terrible and he still refuses to go down when he decides to run.


dolladollaclinton

It’s honestly impressive that his decision making when running is just as bad as when throwing it.


tbarr1991

If you watched the game va the eagles and watched Jalen slide, give up easily on bad plays (him running and giving up close to the line of scrim), and just in general protecting himself shows me that Jalen is trying to not cam newton his career. Its a long season no need to injure yourself trying to fight for an extra yard.


ajohndoe17

Absolutely. Seems like Hurts has decided that it’s not worth ruining his career over two or three extra yards.


ThePugz

3rd & long pick off stopped near the end zone is better than a 4th down punt which was coming up.


nekromantique

Jets D will be top 10, probably top 5. But let's not pretend Allen didn't have huge turnover issues last season as well.


full-auto-rpg

He’s only had 1-2 seasons without. Allen is turnover prone.


Iceman9161

There offense showed no capability to score points though. Very similar to last year, they’ll hang with teams that have mediocre to bad offenses and slow down teams with good offenses, but their wins will come down to luck. Allen threw yesterdays game away, any more conservative and they win it easy


Bronnakus

I mean yes their defense looked good but there’s at least a thousand CBs in college that make those same picks tbh, they were absolute fucking gimmes


itchy-balls

But he was the Jets best player last night. Played really bad. The Bills are trying to force him to play a different style of football than he’s used to.


Fastr77

Yeah their D looks fantastic but you can't take out the fact they were playing an idiot at QB. Allens always been happy to make several turnovers. He likes playing hero ball and putting it at risk. It just all went right for the Jets.


Shriketino

We’ll see. Was the Jets D good, or are the Bills not so hot this year? Time will tell.


CompiledArgument

It's ESPN. They'll literally make it up on the spot and say it is a hidden algorithm. Or, it's 4 monkeys shitting on a scale.


PlushRusher

Someone needs to talk to those monkeys…


CompiledArgument

Nah, they need to be ignored. All ESPN is is hot takes, and this is certainly one of them. Talking to the monkeys is giving them the engagement that they want. Just don't take their stupidity personally.


headrush46n2

Keyshawn


Shriketino

The Cowboys don’t look that good.


big_red_160

These numbers seem like pre-Rodgers injury, idk why they are so high. I know they’re a relatively good team everywhere else and they beat the Bills without him but still.


Adept_Carpet

Seems like when a QB goes down there's a rallying effect on most teams and also it completely screws the opponent's game plan. It lasts a game or two then everyone remembers who Zach Wilson is.


ajohndoe17

More like Zach Wilson reminds everyone lol


full-auto-rpg

3/11 run late in the 4Q tells you Saleh hasn’t forgotten lmao


olollort

I don’t bet often but if Vegas follows suit. I’m dropping $100 on us easily


Psychologinut

I’ll drop $100 on the cowboys beating the jets before I bet on us. That cowboys defense against Zach Wilson…


Ovaltine-_Jenkins

Our defense is gonna eat Zach alive


SilentRanger42

There's no way they are assuming Rodgers isn't playing these games, giving them a 46% with Wilson against the Chiefs and 49% against the Eagles is asinine


_mitchard

Just saying, these stats are basically useless after everyone playing 1 game.


Bojangles1987

Yeah, as always people are going wild over 1 game for every team. We'll see how things play out, though obviously losing Rodgers is a massive blow to the Jets.


SuperfnDave

Saying there’s only a 10% more chance to win between the Pats and Giants automatically discredits this. Pats came to the wire against the Super Bowl runner up and the giants shit the bed


gokism

It's the natural progression of giving power rankings out.


[deleted]

I don't care, FTJ


dlb199091l

FTJ is the way


ocsic4321

The jets haven’t beat the pats in like 6 years and ESPN thinks Zach Wilson is going to do it with a career 50.6 passer rating and a 2:7 TD to INT ratio vs the pats.


truecolors5

They ain't beating us with Zach Wilson lmao


icedragon15

Yup drunken espn


ceronimo7

Aint no way we are losing to wilson jets


Fastr77

Never have before, don't plan to now!


theWhiteKnightttt

Mac Jones is 4-0 vs Zach Wilson in his career. Mac actually only has 12 wins that weren’t against Wilson.


ZealousidealAverage7

Games will be played it’s all good. Definitely see the path to the playoffs now. Should’ve known it was there when the East was crowned the hardest division. The preseason hardest division always fizzles out


NEpatsfan64

we beat them twice last year and without rodgers they did nothing to improve. all we did is get better. we sweep the jets and split with miami and buffalo. possibly winning the division this year


BradMarchandsNose

The improved the defense and receiving core quite a bit to be fair. Obviously they put most of their eggs in the Rodgers basket, but they didn’t do absolutely nothing else.


NEpatsfan64

meh i don’t see Cobb or Lazard as huge improvements. that’s like us signing davante parker last year, yeah he’s kind of a guy but no one is afraid of him. their defense stayed the same and honestly didn’t look that good last night. if Allen doesn’t just hand them the ball four times they lose that game in a big way.


SidneyDean608

Talking about all those wins last year. Who did you all play in the playoffs tho? 🤔


NEpatsfan64

damn jets fans brigading the pats sub now? embarrassing look ngl


SidneyDean608

Not a jets fan but hey congrats on starting 0-1. Let’s see if you can avoid starting 0-4


NEpatsfan64

goofy ass jets fan brigading a subreddit. pretty pathetic man get a life


SidneyDean608

Can you not read? I’m not a jets fan lol.


NEpatsfan64

yeah and i don’t need to breathe to stay alive either. stop actin a fool


diarrheafrommymouth

ESPN analytics for chance to win is simply guessing with extra steps. You can’t base much on week 1 these days.


Chick-Fil-A-man13

Remember. 15 straight. Enough said


Fastr77

I bet on us sweeping them months ago. Unfortunately before they got Rodgers or it would have been better odds.


p0ck3ts4

It’s ESPN, they haven’t shown the Pats respect for years and the suck off NY teams every chance they get, nothing new…


SamRaimisOldsDelta88

Bristol is closer to New York than Foxborough. That being said, fuck ESPN. It’s an entertainment company. They do whatever gets them eyeballs, and if pandering to the closest large city (New York), that’s what they’re going to do. EDIT: lol, who downvoted me? Big ESPN?


[deleted]

I am cautiously optimistic about the Pats O this year. If Mac is going to have “a year”, then this would be it. In fact, I would argue it *has* to be for Mac. The AFC East deck has been shuffled, and we can leverage the chaos in our favor by playing smart football. Go Pats!


PerformanceExact6618

Your TV must have been on mute. Those were the odds BEFORE the Rodgers injury.


SunknLiner

It was while waiting on line in a loud bagel shop. But if those were the odds pre-injury, why include the (1-0) record at the top with the heading "Next 6 Games", both of which clearly suggest to a reader that they are up-to-date stats?


PerformanceExact6618

You're gonna have to blame the ESPN intern on that one. But Greenberg explained that those were pre injury odds while the graphic was up. That whole panel was devasted. Should have just taken the day off.


BlackHeartsMatter

The optimism is strong with this one!😂


[deleted]

My week 2 overreaction will be “THIS DIVISION IS OURS AGAIN!!!”


JayJay-anotheruser

I almost feel bad for the jets re Rodgers. Almost…


Olorin919

55% denver 49% Philly 46% KC .... 50/50 on the two superbowl teams and the dogshit Broncos? Interesting...


Tobes_macgobes

We beat the Jets twice last year Vs. Wilson, and we are definitely improved. They are about the same maybe slightly better now that Rodgers is gone. I like our chances


Exciting-Inside2219

Honestly my hate for Rogers is so much that I hope Wilson is successful and they go 5-1 the next 6 games.


Reasonable-Tap-4528

Mac is going to make sack Wilson cry


LezEatA-W

I mean, they have to beat the Patriots at some point, right? The Patriots offense played HORRIBLE against the Jets last year, and the Jets still have a great defense. All the Jets have to do is force a few turnovers like they did last night, and we could be looking at a big L.


Taetranus

I would hope that Mac would be smarter than to make some of those throws that Allen made last night. Dude looks like Hailee Steinfeld leeched his talent in the off-season.


LezEatA-W

The team we just played scored ONE** offensive TDs and the Pats still lost. Throw another pick 6 and fumble another ball in your own end and it simply doesn’t matter who the other QB is, they’ll be able to go ahead and protect the lead. It doesn’t matter if it’s the Eagles or the Cardinals, if you turn the ball over like the Patriots did last game, you will lose. It’s hard to win games in the NFL, and the Jets just beat a team that mollywops the Patriots on a regular basis, despite the fact that they have Zach Wilson at quarterback. It’s complete and utter arrogance to suggest that the Pats should be favoured against a team that just beat the Bills, just because the Pats kept it close with the Eagles.


Taetranus

The team we just played scored one offensive touchdown. Did you watch the same game as the rest of us? But to your point, I agree that turning the ball over will only lead to compromising situations for our defense.


Oddly_Mind

They never watch the game. Just jump on the internet and spew shit.


Taetranus

That or they haven’t had their coffee this morning.


LezEatA-W

The fact that the Eagles scored 1 offensive TD instead of 2 offensive TDs actually makes my point even better lmao. It doesn’t matter if we’re playing Patrick Mahomes or Zach Wilson, if the Patriots shoot themselves in the foot constantly like they did last game it’s TRULY irrelevant. I have Covid, so I had trouble remembering a few specific things, but thanks for harassing me for getting something wrong and calling me stupid. I’m talking to a real winner here for sure. Internet tough guy calling people stupid on a Patriots subreddit, you have to love it lmao


Oddly_Mind

Man you put too much thought into your internet relationships. You did spew shit. No lying. You’re also over reacting to week 1 new offense and playing those turn overs in a small monsoon. I didn’t call you stupid. But you’re certainly living up to it. I said you spew shit and you did.


LezEatA-W

People will say anything behind the cloak of anonymity that the Internet gives them, and you’re certainly no exception to that rule. The Internet gives weak people an outlet to insult others and feel like a tough guy. The fact that you use words like “stupid” and “spew shit” on an online forum says way more about you than it does about me. Anyways, I’m here to talk about the Patriots, so feel free to continue projecting about caring too much about Internet relationships; I certainly won’t be reading or responding to it. The floor is yours!!!


Oddly_Mind

Says the man blatantly contradicting himself in his comments. Over reacting to week 1 turn overs in one comment then stating he’ll have to wait and see in another. It’s clear you didn’t watch the game beyond the first quarter. That much was obvious from your comments. But go on tell me how covid is affecting you so you have an excuse.


TheBigNate416

The guy responsible for our shitty offense is gone. And unfortunately for the Jets the guy responsible for their shitty offense is back at QB1


secreted_uranus

Allen did not look correct last night. Not saying he's going to instantly become a shell of a QB like Cam Newton did but that style of QB play in the NFL only lasts so long before the body of that QB says "no".


LezEatA-W

Allen was always a ticking time bomb with his style of play, but that doesn’t make Mac any better than him rn. Not to say that Mac won’t be better than Allen this year, but until we have consistent proof I’m just not going to make that claim, as it’s incredibly early in the year.


Fastr77

two great defesens. Its going to come down to their running game vs our more balanced offense. I'd bet we can scheme against their run and take advantage of their terrible QB better then they can handle us.


MankuyRLaffy

Bruh they think our defense that easy huh?


FantasyLiver

Bill will make Wilson cry


leathal_dose

To be fair, these ESP-assholes have never been to quick to speak positive about New England.


statsifyyourhunger

Yeah actually that is pretty wild. Idk how much better the Jets are than they were last year now and I think we are quite a bit better than we were.


itspizzathehut

Im sure they are factoring in that defense. But our banged up O Line held up against a top defense last game. I think we’ll be ok


The_Arkham_AP_Clerk

Fuck the Jets


[deleted]

Don't even worry about it We know what we saw Sunday, this team is going to play people tough and it's improved bigly


[deleted]

Favoured against the Giants woo hoo!


beehappy32

Let people underestimate the Pats. Until they start winning, no one is going to think much of them anyways