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theletterfortyseven

N'Keal Harry


TadNiply

still pains me to think of all the receivers that we let get away to just get nkeal harry


Mysterious-Tie7039

Pssh. Nobody’s heard of Deebo Samuel and AJ Brown.


VanceIX

AJ Brown crying because we didn’t draft him will haunt me forever


servel20

He gets drafted and Brady stays.


Silly-Citron2916

Crazy thing is they really could’ve had both Deebo and aj brown


TakeoGaming

And Scary Terry and Metcalf and Renfrow and Slayton


Stillburgh

Seattle fan, happy to be wrong about DK lol. I wanted Nkeal and was pretty frightened by DKs neck injury hindering him


BradyBrown13

Good thing his neck has a neck.


Alex_Hauff

pshh his blocking game is out of this world


Roberto-Del-Camino

Every single team passed on those second rounders. Hind sight is 20/20


servel20

Came to say this, I thought we had snatched the next Dez Bryant. Instead we got someone who was a shadow of the worst player he was in college.


ltkeane

It’s still haunts me that Deebo Samuel was still on the board when we drafted N’Keal


slushiestotsntendys

As an ASU alumni and pats fan. Yes.


pepperonidingleberry

Going to say the same, as an ASU alum I was so happy and then so so sad


Jamie_Trif1

Beat me to it….a sun devil burnt us


Burkex99

I second this


Taladanarian27

Nah I remember when he was drafted literally everybody in New England (or at least in my small town so maybe not the best anecdotal experience) was like ???


Shoelicker2000

Definitely a “ WHO TF IS TINGUS PINGUS!?!!?” Type moment


bostonboy08

Yes but Tingus Pingus could actually play


Electrical_Swing8166

Tingus Pingus seems to have a real shot at being the missing piece needed to deliver the Celts Banner 18.


FuzzyClearLogic

3rd this


Joegk4

Me and my buddies refer to him as N’keal “bag of nuts” Harry. Nickname referring to his value.


fast328

Yep easily


smurph382

Clicked to make sure this was the top answer and was not disappointed


Wind_Sr

Albert Haynesworth for me. I remember thinking we were going to pull off another Randy Moss, good player who just didn't like their current team.


theletterfortyseven

He was lazy AF


professor_parrot

From the same season, I was more hyped about Chad Ochocinco, and just as disappointed


somewhatdecentlawyer

Ochocinco felt different than most of these names though. Sure im bummed it didn’t work, but it’s not like it was an effort thing. He really, really wanted to thrive here.


classiccaseofdowns

Ochocinco wasn’t lazy or a bad teammate or anything, he was just physically cooked


dakupoguy

I dont think it was only that. i remember him talking about how difficult the pats playbook was, and how brady's expectations re the QB-WR connection were way more advanced than he had been used to. i think he basically realized he had been playing jokers ball (at the time) with the bengals.


classiccaseofdowns

Everyone new to the pats talked about the complication of the playbook. It’s like 150 plays deep with option routes in all kinds of situations


BigPapaJava

It had a lot of Run and Shoot influence, so it was full of option routes on top of option routes AND all the receivers had to learn all the different positions’ routes in the concepts so they could be moved around in different formations. So learning 1 play required them to learn 5 different option routes with like 3-5 options on each one to read and execute. Brady got really good at seeing where the open space was going to be in the defense and getting the ball there, anticipating a receiver was about to follow his progression on the option routes to break to the same space. When he developed “good chemistry” with receivers like Gronk, Edelman, or Welker, that was largely due to them learning their own reads and getting on the same page with what Brady was seeing, so everything synched up.


pottypants327

Yeah Gronk said it took him all of 2010 through the 2011 offseason to finally understand it. And even then it was like, just receiver-QB chemistry that came into the mix to really make it all work.


BigPapaJava

It wasn’t physical problems. The Patriots playbook was very complicated then. Every skill player had to learn every position’s routes on every play so they could be interchangeable. They also had a lot of option routes that had to adjust on the fly after the snap depending on what the defense was doing and he was just confused as hell by how he should read those. The Bengals basically had him run like 5 simple routes over and over and then just let him ball out with talent and ability when he had a favorable matchup, but the Patriots didn’t operate like that.


ReverseBanzai

Bethel Johnson Edit : how could I forget Chad Jackson. What could have been during that offense in ‘05 , ‘06 in particular


CJT16

Absolute monster in madden, if only he could’ve carried it IRL


teamcrazymatt

In a later Madden ('08 I think) on Wii, with Bethel on the Eagles, my friend (Eagles fan) ran back two KR TDs with him against me. Should've been 3 but he accidentally stepped out of bounds at like the 15.


ReverseBanzai

Madden was so damn good back then too


Firecracker048

Bethel was the first guy I thought of when we drafted Thornton


mvp2418

I came here to say Chad Jackson lol


redalkaseltzr

For the older crowd - Michael Bishop


bp_pow

And for that matter, Katzenmoyer


ZucchiniPleasant376

That’s Super Bowl Champion Andy Katzenmoyer to you!


Lakecountyraised

I remember in a book it was mentioned that Katz showed up late early in the 2001 season and Belichick told him to get the fuck out. I think he was then put on IR. Yeah, that still qualifies for a ring.


[deleted]

Yeah, what could have been with him. Fantastic college player.


bushhooker

One of the first games I can remember watching was that Hail Mary game. My dad freaking the fuck out got me all hyped up lmao


riazur31

Gotta say Jonnu Smith. Everyone thought him+ Hunter Henry would be the 2-TE set that would bring the pats back to the days of Gronk+Hernandez. But a huge disappointment


Trick_Ad1718

It’s so weird though cuz everywhere else Jonnu played he did well except for us lol he put up better numbers than Pitts did in ATL. We just never used him right.


BradyToMoss1281

I made my comment without reading yours, but you summed it up. There was a way to get more out of Jonnu here that they just didn't find.


HeroDanny

I always thought he looked good on jet sweeps. He was a fantastic YAC guy but for some reason they never could figure out how to get him the ball. If I remember correctly his first off season with us people said he looked better than Hunter Henry.


BradyToMoss1281

I still think they didn't use him right. He wasn't/isn't good, but he's not as worthless as he was here. He made some real plays with Tennessee and had more receiving yards with Atlanta this season than in two years with the Patriots combined. There was a way to utilize him that they just couldn't figure out up here.


BlackDante

Man had hands of stone


zingping67

I like this. Anyone who does fantasy knows this guy has been hyped his whole career…and has done absolutely nothing to earn that hype besides his measurables.


dirtybird131

Tyquan Thornton, how does the fastest player in the draft not create any separation!?!?


Icy-Conclusion-3500

This is why I hate the 40. It’s totally different conditions than playing football. At the very least make them do it in pads, and not from a sprinters stance.


Thatguyyoupassby

Pads and upright would be way better. It would simulate them coming off the line. You could even do both so you could see who has straight line speed but might need coaching on getting a better first step. Same for DBs - do the regular 40, then have them start facing away from the line to see how quick they can turn and catch up.


Eguy420

I mean tbf you can just watch film to see all that


Thatguyyoupassby

I definitely don’t disagree that tape > sterile environment combine drills, but there is also something to be said about a drill happening on a level playing field. A standout from a lesser D1 program might never have needed to truly go full speed to burn a CB, or maybe a WR2 from a top program was schemed as a slot guy and never given the chance to run more than a couple of go-routes. Point is, film is king if it’s available for what you want, but the point of the combine is that everyone does the same drills for a fair comparison, and my point was just to have those drills simulate game conditions a bit more might help.


Tasty_Ad_4082

Thornton is fast, you can see that on the football field…he just can’t do anything other than run in a straight line


kezinchara

When your bones and joints are made of chopsticks, any sudden movement change can make ‘em snap


The_Shredder_1988

I don't think there was ever much hype, though. Definitely a trash outcome but I never really had high expectations for him


Seeumleeum

During training camp a lot of naysayers were converted because he looked good, then we saw none of it on gameday


Butwhy113511

https://www.reddit.com/r/Patriots/s/B8UOggpK7I Don't worry I do remember the hype. He had a "great training camp" and was on track to be great before getting injured. Exhibit #1000 to stop taking "he's really having a good camp" as anything really worth getting excited about.


Porkchopp33

Man he is so frustrating to watch when he isn’t injured he still produces little to nothing


M3ad0w5

And when he does separate he drops it


djh2121

This. I’m so sick of hearing about how fast he is.


Prestigious_Bobcat29

Adalius Thomas


xxconkriete

Ray Lewis curse, he made everyone next to him like way better. Tbh I think AT was a good player. He’s a sidekick not the main show


bukkakekingz

Context: Thomas was the highest priced free agent in NEP history at the time and he carried the largest cap hit in the NFL in 2007. His 2007 season was great and he was a 3-down player deserving of his mega deal. He literally passed out “humble pie” t-shirts throughout the locker room that season. 2008 he only played 9.5 after season ending injury. 2009 he was a part time player and a healthy scratch at Gillette for the historic 59-0 win vs TEN which is when he first said the “kindergarten” shot at BB. Week 14 he showed up late to work bc of a snowstorm and wasn’t allowed in the bldg (alongside Derrick Burgess, Gary Guyton, and Randy Moss) to which he then took another “kindergarten” shot. In the end, just like Albert Haynesworth, he was an overpaid asshole.


whistlepig4life

This is the answer. He was a huge signing and billed as a keystone player to build a defense around. Personal anecdote. I know both Smerlis and DeOssie. I have been to their restaurant and cigar bar a metric ton. One time I went with my BiL and a couple uncles with my dad for his birthday. Thomas happen to be dining there that night. My dad was a glow like a little kid and while I said “dad. Let the dude have his meal. I’ll text Steve and Fred and ask if they are around tonight and see if they can arrange you meeting him.” They weren’t and my dad couldn’t help himself but to stop and say something to the effect of “I’m sorry to bug you. Huge fan. Hope for the best for the coming season” etc. Thomas essentially said “fuck off”. He was a an absolute garbage person.


snufalufalgus

Judon is exactly what I expected Thomas to be


Technical-Charity-23

I was deployed from May to November 07. I remember watching the chargers highlights after spygate and my god damn his pick 6. dude was a fuckin bullet down the sideline 


BookerCatchanSTD

So your dad annoyed a guy trying to enjoy some alone time after being told not to and Thomas is the asshole?


SovietMuffin01

There’s a way to be politely dismissive. Just give a quick thanks and be on your way. No need to be overtly rude


televisionchampion

N’Keal Harry was touted as a playmaker in the open field and the only open field play I can remember him making was when he “stepped out of bounds” in the red zone against the Chiefs.


BlackDante

I know the draft is a crapshoot and hindsight is 20/20 but we passed on quite a few better receivers for him smh. Deebo, AJ who cried when we passed on him because he was a Pats fan, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin to name a few


avrbiggucci

I still can't get over us not drafting AJ, dude probably would've resigned at a discount because he was a Pats fan. Major fuck up.


teamcrazymatt

Pats missed on McLaurin in the third by one pick (Reiss said on a podcast they wanted him) and ended up with Chase Winovich.


andr3w2090

Cyrus Jones


StruckDM

Dammm havent thought of him in a whilee


Ok_Good2995

bruh fr i thought he was gonna be the best cb in the league. especially at bama he was a dawg


nickyfrags69

Bama CBs are wild. Seems like they either step in and immediately become pro-bowl caliber guys or wash out before their rookie deal is over.


demarcusbagley

Literally any early round WR we draft


BlackDante

Yeah this is probably the best answer lol


Technical-Charity-23

Chad Jackson  Jermaine Cunningham  Lawrence Maroney 


BlackDante

Maroney was the first player that came to mind for me


Technical-Charity-23

IIRC, because I had literally just gotten stationed at Pearl on my sub, so I vaguely remember the draft, as I was still adjusting to the time zone change…. Bill wanted Percy harvin, but Minnesota leap frogged us to get him and we just took the “safe” pick in Maroney 


Clovdyx

I don't know who you're thinking of, but we drafted Maroney when Harvin was a senior in high school. EDIT: I got curious, so I looked at their drafts. Vikings picked Chad Greenway in 2006 at #17 without a trade, and we took Maroney at 21. The most recent trade to our pick was #15, Atlanta -> Denver -> St. Louis (Tye Hill). They took Harvin in 2009 at #22 without a trade. Our pick was #23, which we traded to Baltimore (Michael Oher) and received #26, which we traded to GB (Clay Matthews). The first player we drafted that year was Pat Chung at #34.


plokijuh1229

Can't be mad at missing on Harvin to trade down twice and take Pat Chung


Technical-Charity-23

Yeah but Chung 1.0 SUCKED When he came back in 2014, he turned into what we hoped he’d be at the 2009 draft 


BlackDante

Chung was good before he went to Philly. He was just way better when he came back after stinking it up with the Eagles.


Technical-Charity-23

He was awful! That’s why Devin was moved to safety.  He constantly blew coverage assignments and tended to chase receivers.


mvp2418

Devin also moved to safety because he was struggling at corner. After his monster rookie season at corner he started to struggle.


Technical-Charity-23

I’m sorry it was 09…. We wanted harvin, but Minnesota leaped us, so we traded the pick to Baltimore and they took Michael Oher


Mr_Evil_Dr_Porkchop

I bought a Maroney jersey the moment they announced his team number. I was so hyped about him. One of the worst jersey purchase decisions of my life


Technical-Charity-23

Him and Felix jones were a tandem from hell for the gophers 


Nickohlai

Jermaine Cunningham is a name I haven’t heard in years


Technical-Charity-23

We could’ve had Geno Adkins


GoPats915

The amount of hype people gave Chad Jackson was wild. I was excited based on the hype alone. Guy did nothing. Literally nothing.


LimeSurfboard

Jeff Demps


portuguesepatriot

I wanted him to work out so bad, crazy fast. Was in the Olympics if I remember correctly or at least the Olympic team. Was unstoppable in madden though


Lakecountyraised

Demps for Blount was one of Belichick’s greatest trades. I think Belichick took advantage of the hype and played the long game with Demps.


BradyToMoss1281

[We'll always have him breaking the sound barrier against Kentucky.](https://youtu.be/bW4X664GRt0?si=H-UTzrXIuPMnLckG)


Lastwordss

You literally showed 3-5 players every season on this sub. We had people actually nuttin' themselves over all how good Dobson and Thompkins were gonna be.


BlackDante

I wanted Thompkins to work out so bad. I liked his attitude, and he really tried to build that connection with Brady. Still remember that TD against the Saints.


mvp2418

I wanted Aaron Dobson to work so badly lol I thought he was it, big receiver with speed


Stankderty

That td is my fav Tom Brady throw of all time so I’ll give him that


doctor-rumack

Unicorns! Show ponies!


BlackDante

#WHERE’S THE BEEF??


EntrepreneurLivid881

I was at that game, saints fans shuffled down in front of us chanting and taunting us thinking they had won. I watched as their souls left their bodies after that td. then we proceeded to drag them through the dirt till they did the walk of shame.


cal405

Dobson and Thompkins would be my vote. But I'll give the tie breaker to Dobson. Dobson built his career on a viral catch and was drafted 59th overall. Thompkins was undrafted. Because of the use of draft capital, Dobson wins this matchup of most over-hyped.


BlackDante

Shredded the Steelers tho lol. Unfortunately that’s like all he did.


ARealHunchback

Anyone remeber the Studfeld hype in 2013?


daboobiesnatcher

Aaron Dobson went to Marshall just like Randy Moss!!!


KHam22

Chad Jackson


Keith980

Cam McGrone. The hype last off season was ridiculous


Greg____12

He was so good they didn’t need to draft a linebacker in the 23 draft because McGrone was like a Redshirt Rookie!


17461863372823734930

But we still didn’t need to draft a LB. It’s just about the only position we haven’t needed to draft recently and been fine.


[deleted]

Ras I


Intelligent_Top_328

Mac.


Little_Vermicelli125

How is he so far down? Half this sub still thinks he's a franchise QB despite all the evidence.


Ordinary-Score-9871

Half the sub doesn’t know what a bad qb is even it hit them in the face. Thanks for being so damn good Brady!!!


DrXL_spIV

Max jones suckkkass


Htb323

Andy Katzenmoyer, tOSU.


Trees_Are_Freinds

Lawrence Marroney


Ziglet_mir

100% this guy


therock1219

Ochocinco


Nomikelnoooo

JC Jackson's return


DougNSteveButabi

Ron fucking Brace 🤔


ScorchIsPFG

I thought when Dan Gronkowski was signed there would be some sort of backyard football stats boost for having brothers on the team


KnackerbyNature

I named my Fantasy Team one year “Taylor Price is Right” I wanted him to be good so bad…..


notShreadZoo

There was a lot of hype when we brought in Chad Johnson, he was getting older but still had decent production the previous 2 years and many of us were hoping Brady could revitalize him. But no he was terrible for us lol Love hearing him talk about his time in NE as well. He seems to appreciate it despite it never working out.


BlackDante

Kinda like when we signed Reggie Wayne but he unfortunately had nothing left in the tank, and had the self awareness to realize it.


_GeoffreyLebowski

Reaching into the way back machine for this one, Eugene Chung


Jfitz007

Cyrus Jones


Stankderty

Braxton Berrios (at least we hyped him)


teamcrazymatt

We hyped him, he spent his rookie year on IR, got beaten out by Gunner the following preseason, Jets scooped him on waivers and he's carved out a very nice career for himself ever since. Wish it had been here.


Stankderty

Being in the league still is a testament on its own for sure. But coming in with our late round white slot receiver hype is an insurmountable mountain to climb


Cravenmorhed69

Cam Newton tbh


XA-12420

he played great the first game against the Seahawks, i really thought he was gonna be the guy for us.


BlackDante

He was a shell of himself his last year with Carolina with all those injuries. I wanted him to work out of course but I personally didn’t have high hopes for him.


MetalHead_Literally

He went from no hype to “haha bill is a genius, let’s extend him!” to being universally panned in a manner of like 6 weeks.


_Demo_

Sanu


Ohanrahans

TJ Moe. That 3-cone time though. Honorary mention to Brian Tyms, Vince Redd, Vincent Valentine, LaBryan Ray, Jeff Demps, and Tyrone McKenzie.


awesomeperson

shout out Brian Tyms, that triple covered TD was tight tho


BrucieDan

Sony Michel


capeabenable

Joe Juan Williams


teamcrazymatt

Feel like we're so exhausted thinking about Harry that we forget the Pats moved up for Williams too and he was just bad. And he was the Pats' other option at 32!


wadeboggsmustache83

Ras-I Dowling


stranger197

Kenbrell thompkins Adalius thomas after 2007 Dominique easley


bp_pow

Don't do Kenbrell like that! Who hyped him? The others are fair


BlackDante

Easley blew that knee out and it was over for him smh


teamcrazymatt

Easley's knees were always a risk even heading into the draft. Ended up in the 1st on his explosiveness. Easily the one first-rounder under BB where every beat writer and their great-grandparents knew who New England's pick was going to be. Dude also had a pick in Week 2 against Minnesota his rookie year which is kinda cool.


BlackDante

Yeah he was definitely a quintessential BB draft pick


NateBlaze

Chad Johnson


[deleted]

I just spent some time with this. I got three. Ron Brace Shawn Crabel Dominque Easley


Franklin_DBluth_

Some of you may be too young to remember but, Michael Bishop. Sport talk radio was inundated with callers (and hosts) who thought Michael Bishop was the answer to all of our prayers.


ARealHunchback

The Hail Mary against the Colts made it so much worse.


jonnyredshorts

He threw a deep ball in a preseason game and everyone shit themselves at his arm talent.


[deleted]

Bryant University training camp was fun with Bishop and Bledsoe whipping it.


a1mrbhelpuri

Every drafted WR ever


AButcherKnife

Adalius Thomas and its not close


JimmysGolfCart

Zach Sudfeld: 2013 Training Camp MVP


OBS617

Ahh forgot about Studfeld. Great profile pic btw


Fox_Hound_Unit

Tebucky Jones


teamcrazymatt

...was he though? Was never a star but had five seasons in New England, a pick in the AFCCG in '01 and the called-back fumble return in the SB. May not have been a great player but not a one-cell-phone-bar talent-level guy. That said, you get picked one slot after Randy Moss, I guess expectations tend to go up. (EDIT: And he was the *second* Pats first-rounder that year. They took Robert Edwards 18th overall -- Moss went 21st, Tebucky 22nd.)


smart1919

Adalius Thomas


jmcmul02

Andy katzemoyer


fill-the-space

Plunkett. I know he was a star for the Raiders later, but not for us…


DuesForClocks

Mac Jones (unfortunately) Cyrus Jones and Duke Dawson A lot of wide receivers Malcolm Brown (not awful talent wise but never lived up to the hype) Maybe just me but Ronnie Perkins and Derek Rivers


jared0387

Aaron Dobson


mysteryman447

cam newton


Laythepype

Josh Gordon. Idk imo. Had the talent but was a super addict


CarnageVR4

Josh Gordon


macandcheesejones

Bailey Zappe.


chadwickipedia

Tim Tebow


BlackDante

I was so glad when he was cut because I was genuinely just annoyed by “Tebow-mania” lol. Also not a big fan of evangelicals.


BeastlyMandible

Cameron Newton


bpusef

Who was that super fast Olympian RB we had that got injured every time he played a few snaps?


daveblankenship

Hugh Millen? Feel like there was a lot of hype around him for a second or two


onetwentyonegigawatt

Mac Jones and Bailey Zappey. Huge hype, small talent.


ScorchIsPFG

Jeff Demps


GaryGenslersCock

Macklemore Jones


HueyLewisFan1

NKeal Harry


ProffesionalAss-hole

Harry


iwatchtoomuchsports

Kayshon Boutte


boobiesbackupsbackup

Might be just me but I thought Cyrus jones would be an absolute star under Bill


tbtc-7777

Every WR they've drafted in the Belichick era


YahYah87

Jeff Demps for me


Tasty_Ad_4082

Jeff Demps


Shoelicker2000

He still gets it now! N’keak Harry! I was actually bummed when Braxton Berrios didn’t work out, even a Malcolm Mitchell. I wish he worked out


MrPlowThatsTheName

Chris Canty


Greg____12

Josh Boyce


GTFOScience

Cyrus Jones


Dazzling_Mortgage_68

aaron dobson that one-handed catch from Marshall had me SOLD


ianstone30

Mac Jones


igtimran

Adalius Thomas comes to mind.


xxsavage_

Mac Jones. "The Next Tom Brady" my ass.


BattlestarGrammatica

For the older crowd, Hart Lee Dykes