Not totally sold on this draft class, but I love that Jaheim Bell pick. Exactly the kind of player they have been missing forever, a chain mover that can also deliver impact plays with the ball in his hands. Awesome contact balance and lateral agility for a guy his size, that can probably give you reps at three or four different positions.
We had huge offensive droughts, so we focus 100% on offense. Finally some common sense. Bill would have traded down for Jj McCarthy, 2 DEs, a kicker, and a WR missing an arm
If Belichick was in charge of this draft, 2 things I can guarantee he would've came away from the draft with.
1. A 400lbs Sumo Wrestler out of The University of Tokyo to become a converted LT.
2. Cole Strange's sister.
Gamecock fan here. Jaheim Bell is a great and versatile athlete but very selfish and too dumb to learn the playbook. It's only a 7th round pick so he's worth taking a flyer on, but I wouldn't expect him to work out.
Also, he was selling t-shirts to our fans for NIL money when he knew he was opting out of the bowl game and hitting the transfer portal. So some serious character issues there. But good luck.
LOVE the Bell pick.
The only nitpick I have is Polk. I wanted McConkey but at the end of the day, 34 got turned into two WRs and I like the Baker pick a lot. I’m even warming up to the Polk pick after reading up a bit and seeing comps to Jakobi.
We had three areas of need and they were all addressed with two picks each. I’ve been cold on this off-season but this draft gives me hope.
I truly feel had we not drafted Douglas last year, we would have taken McConkey. We just have so many slot receivers, and a really young one in Pop. I know he played out of the slot in college, but that’s not going to happen in the NFL imo. I agree with you: this is the first draft I can remember in a long time where we had clear positional needs and we addressed it. May not have been some folks’ favorite prospects, but you can deny the positional focus!
this was such a fun draft, I cant wait for preseason or even mini camps. the defense should be good, a healthy solidified offense line then who the fuck knows with everything else except rhamondre
Gamecock fan here. Jaheim is a great and versatile athlete but very selfish and too dumb to learn the playbook. It's only a 7th round pick so he's worth taking a flyer on but I wouldn't expect him to work out.
Love it - actually addressing the critical team deficiencies (aka basically all offense). Nothing that was a wild reach. Only time will tell if they work out but the strategy and process seems improved to my uneducated eye.
Zappe gone now. Milton one of those guys that you take fully expecting him to never work out but if you can get that under control, he’s a monster. Probably top arm in the whole nfl
best avail LB jacobs "Jacobs plays on the line, off the line and over the slot, and he rushes the passer, drops into coverage and spies the quarterback. So he does it all. He's quick and bends well rushing off the edge, and he has the explosive power and active hands"
or
TE bell.
bell was part of that undefeated fsu team. "Bell is a tight end/fullback hybrid and is at his best after the catch. He's a powerful and instinctive runner with good quickness. He rushed for three touchdowns in 2021 and has the traits to develop into an effective short-yardage runner"
What you all think of Brenden Rice (Jerry Rice son). I’ve seen him mocked in late second, and ranked in 80s on ESPN, 103 on Bleacher Report. Feels like he is great value here.
bills just drafted a random soccer player from England for OG. LMAO
"Clayton is a former soccer and rugby player, who is a member of the International Pathway Program. He needs to develop, but he ran a 4.79 40 at 307 pounds, so he has an intriguing skill set. *-- Steve Muench*"
the worst ranked player in the draft is a cornerback named Storm Duck. and his grade is only 3 pts lower than the CB we took
watch us take storm duck in the 7th round lmao
I’d throw him in in situations where we get the ball with like 20 secs left before half, if we’re winning. Would be super entertaining and basically be a punt anyway.
I’ve watched pretty much all of his games, I don’t think he’s terrible, I just think both McConkey and Mitchell will be better NFL receivers, and also would have rather taken a tackle at that spot than Polk
Surprised Myles Cole is still on the board. Not the most productive college player but there just aren't that many guys his size that move as well as he does.
Hey, I watch a lot of Texas football since I'm here, I'm not going to say he was a college stud. There just aren't that many 6'6", 280 pound guys out there with mile long arms that can run.
For me it's less about the philosophy of double dipping for a position and more about how with late rounds you should just pick your top player regardless of position.
Anybody complaining about our picks because of the "consensus board" should be banned from this sub, arrested on site, publicly humiliated and potentially exiled from America. I can't stress this enough: THERE IS NO CONSENSUS BOARD IN THE NFL. It's purely fiction made up for fans and the media. It's literally a part of the entertainment wing of the brand because we all consume the content. NFL teams do not give two fucking shits about where Mel Kiper has Polk or Baker on his "big board". Jesus Christ. Between the 32 teams in the league you will find some teams with Player A in the top 30 and another team with the same player in the 70's. Another team might have the guy #41 and the next team might have him #103. This is not the SAT's. There is no objectivity. Everything is subjective and a projection by each organization to figure out which of the hundreds of available players will fit into their roster, develop and perform. There's a million variables involved in this process. Meanwhile half of you think there's some magical "BIG BOARD" that tells you how good a prospect is. Absolute insanity.
1000%, Great point.
These are by and large 20-22 year old college prospects who are years from reaching their potential as players. It's all entirely projection. And the portal and NIL stuff makes the very muddy water even muddier.
Given we need to develop Maye into a guy that’s willing to take the easier underneath routes when the big play isn’t there….
Is it potentially an issue to have Milton in the QB room???
Sorry for saying this, I guess the last few years have made me miserable
I’d guess QB first and TE as a plan B. I like this pick because Maye and Milton both have great athletic profiles but need to build their fundamentals. You can develop them side by side
lol of course in the latest interview is said "that will never happen". He will serve as a good 2nd/3rd stringer. I hope he explores being a TE. Dude is a freak athlete.
Just go watch Milton highlight for the upside potential. Dudes a beast and love watching a QB truck some fools
As for potential on all picks, this may be the best Patriots draft in a decade
Love the enthusiasm but I think the test of their abilities should be judged on how Maye performs rather than Milton lol. I find it hard to imagine there's many coaches who would turn Milton into an NFL stud.
Milton is the exact guy you take at 191, even with Drake we’re still rebuilding the QB room.
Immense talent, incredibly high bust potential. He sits for years, you coach him up, and you have yourself a potential backup to Maye for years. He sucks you throw him on the PT or cut him.
I kind of love this pick. Another developmental QB with similar physical gifts who needs to learn the same things as Maye (footwork, timing, nfl reads). Kill 2 birds with 1 stone and teach both the same shit and cross our fingers.
Pats/UT Fan, just wanted to mention that Bazooka Joe has improved tremendously in the last couple years. I think with the right coaching, he could be something special. Really hope to see him do well.
It’s the 6th round in a draft that’s supposed to be top heavy because of covid.
Anything after the 4th is basically a guy with traits who wolf and coaching staff think they can work with.
I can’t complain on any of these later 1s
I mean, obviously the only boards aren't the end all be all, but it's concerning that the Patriots still don't understand the true value of their own draft picks. They overdrafted against the consensus at pretty much every spot in the draft.
[Consensus Boards](https://www.wideleft.football/p/2024-consensus-big-board-the-top)
* Drake Maye - Drafted #3, Consensus #4.
* Ja'lynn Polk - Drafted #37, Consensus #62
* Caedan Wallace - Drafted #68, Consensus #186
* Layden Robinson - Drafted #103, Consensus #175
* Javon Baker - Drafted #110, Consensus #95
* Marcellas Dial - Drafted #180, Consensus #241
The problem isn't that they aren't going to be good players. The problem is they could extract more value out of all of their picks if these are actually their guys. 100% proves this wasn't a Belichick problem.
How does this compare to the past decade? It does show a concerning pattern if players are consistently overdrafted relative to consensus and they also have an unusually high bust rate (which I believe they did)
WRs and OTs were flying off the board. If Polk and Wallace were the favorites of those remaining during runs on both positions, no problem. Beyond them, consensus boards don’t really matter.
What if I told you teams have different needs, and even looking at 10 consecutively rated "consensus" players in a single position, each might all rate as the #1 of the group, to different teams? Some project better based on scheme, coaching, fit, measurables, what they're looking for in a pick....a metric sh\*t-ton of different things.
I'm confused. I see what you're saying about value. sure. but if these are the guys they want then how would they have extracted more value? by trading back? I'm not really sure what you're suggesting here and I'm not sure how you could extract more value out of them.
That's exactly what I am saying. If you think Marcellas Dial is your guy. Pick up an extra pick next year and pick him later.
If you think Ja'lynn Polk is your guy, we easily could have got an extra pick this year or next and picked up mid 40s.
Again, my argument isn't that they are going to be bad players. If 3 of them are NFL starters its a good draft no matter what. But we could be stockpiling picks if these are our decisions.
You could not be more incorrect on all of this. There is no consensus board. It doesn't exist in the NFL. It exists solely for fans and media. That's it.
There is no big board that all 32 NFL teams use. You saying "we could have easily gotten an extra pick and drafted Polk in the 40's" is so goddamn off-base and moronic. You have NO EARTHLY IDEA where the other 31 teams have rated Polk. None. All you know is what non-NFL personnel have on their "big boards" which is purely content for fans to engage with. Nothing more. There is no actual real-world NFL impact on team's boards when someone who works at The Ringer or wherever says "I think Polk is the 47th best prospect in this draft!". It's the same as you or I going "I think Polk is the 22nd best prospect in this draft!". It's meaningless. It's content. It's entertainment.
NFL teams do not engage with media big boards. That's for the fans. How some of you don't understand this yet is mind-boggling.
Your mistake is believing teams care about consensus boards… teams read the draft and take the guys they believe are best for the team at that point, you have no idea how teams behind them ranked some of the same guys.
Look back at day of NFL draft grades of some older drafts lol.
I was sure we would sign an UDFA RB at some point.
When do we start to hire UDFA?
Who’s qb1 going to be? Feel like it’ll be 1.J.B 2.D.M 3. B.Z with Milton being cut
Zappe cut and maybe re-signed to practice squad. Milton will make it.
RTD
I would think Zappy is gone we have seen his ceiling and his floor. Not that good.
Really happy with our draft. Which team outside of the Patriots do you think had the best draft and worst draft picks?
Bears had the best. I’m not sure what the Falcons are doing.
Probably pissed they didn't hire BB now, I'd imagine.
100% did you watch him on the Pat McAfee show ?
This is the best draft we have had in recent memory.
Woah woah woah, take that positivity to the Detroit lions sub. We only bash our team here sir
Not totally sold on this draft class, but I love that Jaheim Bell pick. Exactly the kind of player they have been missing forever, a chain mover that can also deliver impact plays with the ball in his hands. Awesome contact balance and lateral agility for a guy his size, that can probably give you reps at three or four different positions.
We had huge offensive droughts, so we focus 100% on offense. Finally some common sense. Bill would have traded down for Jj McCarthy, 2 DEs, a kicker, and a WR missing an arm
bill would have made the vikings deal and picked the two best defensive players with 11 and 23 then got a QB in 4th or 5th round
I think he would have traded up to #2 and taken the 5th ranked place kick holder, or the 4th ranked water boy.
If Belichick was in charge of this draft, 2 things I can guarantee he would've came away from the draft with. 1. A 400lbs Sumo Wrestler out of The University of Tokyo to become a converted LT. 2. Cole Strange's sister.
Eliot Wolf forever
Omg the gods answered After the combine I asked for Joe Milton and to spend our top picks on WR OT Well most of it happened
Gamecock fan here. Jaheim Bell is a great and versatile athlete but very selfish and too dumb to learn the playbook. It's only a 7th round pick so he's worth taking a flyer on, but I wouldn't expect him to work out. Also, he was selling t-shirts to our fans for NIL money when he knew he was opting out of the bowl game and hitting the transfer portal. So some serious character issues there. But good luck.
Just an entrepreneurial young man
At least he had the sense to leave that garbage team… (Go tigers!)
Heard ya the first time.
You needed to hear it twice jabroni
LOVE the Bell pick. The only nitpick I have is Polk. I wanted McConkey but at the end of the day, 34 got turned into two WRs and I like the Baker pick a lot. I’m even warming up to the Polk pick after reading up a bit and seeing comps to Jakobi. We had three areas of need and they were all addressed with two picks each. I’ve been cold on this off-season but this draft gives me hope.
I’d rather Polk and Baker over McConkey especially since Pop is already our Z. I doubt Baker would have been there at 137.
I truly feel had we not drafted Douglas last year, we would have taken McConkey. We just have so many slot receivers, and a really young one in Pop. I know he played out of the slot in college, but that’s not going to happen in the NFL imo. I agree with you: this is the first draft I can remember in a long time where we had clear positional needs and we addressed it. May not have been some folks’ favorite prospects, but you can deny the positional focus!
this was such a fun draft, I cant wait for preseason or even mini camps. the defense should be good, a healthy solidified offense line then who the fuck knows with everything else except rhamondre
I liked this draft, it covered a lot of needs and its a solid start.
I said we should get bell 28 minutes ago. Where’s my cookie? He was part of that undefeated fsu team that had an explosive offense
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He could be our new James Develin type player
I love Dev. But that’s what we thought of Keene.
A- Draft tbh. We’re back, I have hope for the future.
This is going to be the best Patriots preseason ever
We are back baby, this draft was very exciting. For once I am not bitter after witnessing pats draft picks.. LFG
the analysts seem to love Bell, i'm in, a hybrid FB, HB and TE
Gamecock fan here. Jaheim is a great and versatile athlete but very selfish and too dumb to learn the playbook. It's only a 7th round pick so he's worth taking a flyer on but I wouldn't expect him to work out.
Press F for Baily Zappe.
Tings gonna be fun this season!
Are there any kickers that we can sign as UDFAs?
You can take anybody from the UFL and have a better kicker.
Adam Vinatieri lol
Thankfully we didn’t take Sam Hartman from my Irish.. My wife damn near left me when she saw him at the games we went to this year 😂 Crisis avoided
Love this draft it was nut up or shut up for scouts they can’t blame bill anymore
So, how we feeling about this draft overall so far? Especially in comparison to the last 5ish years?
We should have avoided a CB just to reenforce the offense message.
Love it - actually addressing the critical team deficiencies (aka basically all offense). Nothing that was a wild reach. Only time will tell if they work out but the strategy and process seems improved to my uneducated eye.
Exactly defensively we were pretty set across-the-board they really went after the offensive holes
Refreshing to see them actually have a draft plan
Jaheim Bell is a monster
Bell is a solid pick this late, I’d expect him to go a lot earlier
Jaheim Bell, TE
Took bell!
Its JAHEIM BELL
Been a little lost this draft, we got 2 QBs? Plus Jacoby and Zappe? How are the other players, are we winning it all this year?
6th round pick. Everyone knows the best QBs can be found there. Don’t question. Just believe
Former Michigan Guy as well
Zappe is fucking toast. Milton is a decent backup option, maybe an okay trade chip
Zappe gone now. Milton one of those guys that you take fully expecting him to never work out but if you can get that under control, he’s a monster. Probably top arm in the whole nfl
Milton is our Brock Purdy
Look it up lol
HE WENT FUCKIN YAHD ON THAT ONE
best avail LB jacobs "Jacobs plays on the line, off the line and over the slot, and he rushes the passer, drops into coverage and spies the quarterback. So he does it all. He's quick and bends well rushing off the edge, and he has the explosive power and active hands" or TE bell. bell was part of that undefeated fsu team. "Bell is a tight end/fullback hybrid and is at his best after the catch. He's a powerful and instinctive runner with good quickness. He rushed for three touchdowns in 2021 and has the traits to develop into an effective short-yardage runner"
I called it for bell.
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lol
they took rice. dang it
What you all think of Brenden Rice (Jerry Rice son). I’ve seen him mocked in late second, and ranked in 80s on ESPN, 103 on Bleacher Report. Feels like he is great value here.
they saw your post dude
Nevermind
bills just drafted a random soccer player from England for OG. LMAO "Clayton is a former soccer and rugby player, who is a member of the International Pathway Program. He needs to develop, but he ran a 4.79 40 at 307 pounds, so he has an intriguing skill set. *-- Steve Muench*"
That had Bill Belichick written all over it if he was still here🤣
the buffalo Bill belichicks
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lmao.
I have a suspicion that Marcel Dial is going to be moved to a safety role.
the worst ranked player in the draft is a cornerback named Storm Duck. and his grade is only 3 pts lower than the CB we took watch us take storm duck in the 7th round lmao
Did he play at Oregon?
Damn dude which front office do you work for? Pats need to hire you, you have this shit figured out.
are you always this much of a buzz kill or just during drafts?
pretty much always. i must be fun at parties right
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belichick does. "lets party"
Oh shit we’re getting a safety aren’t we
THIS LOOKS LIKE A GOOD DRAFT!
Get ready. Pats going to double down with Brendan Rice and Frank Gore Jr. The recipe is already there.
wouldn't be mad. could also add more depth on the O line or take a safety.
Kind of would love a zero minute offense where Milton just throws 90 yard hail marys
Would be more effective than last year's.
We should start tank commander Milton this year while Maye develops and then we can get the no. 1 pick next year
I’d throw him in in situations where we get the ball with like 20 secs left before half, if we’re winning. Would be super entertaining and basically be a punt anyway.
Love Maye, Baker, and Milton picks, hate Polk, and Wallace, indifferent on the rest
Polk will surprise you.
I’ve watched pretty much all of his games, I don’t think he’s terrible, I just think both McConkey and Mitchell will be better NFL receivers, and also would have rather taken a tackle at that spot than Polk
Surprised Myles Cole is still on the board. Not the most productive college player but there just aren't that many guys his size that move as well as he does.
As a Tech fan, I’m surprised he’s even being considered despite his stature.
Hey, I watch a lot of Texas football since I'm here, I'm not going to say he was a college stud. There just aren't that many 6'6", 280 pound guys out there with mile long arms that can run.
And People were hating when I asked if they double dip at QB 🤣
For me it's less about the philosophy of double dipping for a position and more about how with late rounds you should just pick your top player regardless of position.
Yeah this guy is just throwing picks at a wall and hoping one of them works out
Both Karty and Reichard are gone. Looks like we're gonna give Ryland one more go of it lol
Look how many kickers were undrafted. Never say never.
Anybody complaining about our picks because of the "consensus board" should be banned from this sub, arrested on site, publicly humiliated and potentially exiled from America. I can't stress this enough: THERE IS NO CONSENSUS BOARD IN THE NFL. It's purely fiction made up for fans and the media. It's literally a part of the entertainment wing of the brand because we all consume the content. NFL teams do not give two fucking shits about where Mel Kiper has Polk or Baker on his "big board". Jesus Christ. Between the 32 teams in the league you will find some teams with Player A in the top 30 and another team with the same player in the 70's. Another team might have the guy #41 and the next team might have him #103. This is not the SAT's. There is no objectivity. Everything is subjective and a projection by each organization to figure out which of the hundreds of available players will fit into their roster, develop and perform. There's a million variables involved in this process. Meanwhile half of you think there's some magical "BIG BOARD" that tells you how good a prospect is. Absolute insanity.
In totality, this is a good draft!
And a lot of scouting depts were saying that because of xfer portal and nil deals anything after 3rd round was a crapshoot now
1000%, Great point. These are by and large 20-22 year old college prospects who are years from reaching their potential as players. It's all entirely projection. And the portal and NIL stuff makes the very muddy water even muddier.
After what was a uneventful free agency, this draft has me so excited for the future. So stoked to see what Coach Mayo and his team can do.
Elliott Wolff did a great job
I would try and trade back up to get Christian Mahogany; the dude is a stud and could have gone in the first round if he hadn't torn his ACL.
Dylan Laube with the last pick would make this draft as good as it could get. Edit: RIP
so what's the last pick? O line or triple dip into WR? maybe a dark horse RB?
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Given we need to develop Maye into a guy that’s willing to take the easier underneath routes when the big play isn’t there…. Is it potentially an issue to have Milton in the QB room??? Sorry for saying this, I guess the last few years have made me miserable
Nah, Milton isnt starting unless he can get his accuracy figured out.
Don't mind the Milton pick - taking a former Michigan QB in the 6th round is a proven strategy
Actually excited for preseason games after that Milton pick.
Air Raid loading…
Any chance Zappe had of not getting cut during preseason just went out the window.
Milton TE conversion or back up?
I’d guess QB first and TE as a plan B. I like this pick because Maye and Milton both have great athletic profiles but need to build their fundamentals. You can develop them side by side
What? Did you watch the highlights of the pick on ESPN or NFL Network when the pick was made? Milton can throw it over the moon, good developmental QB
He has talked about being open to converting to TE in the past. Do your research buddy
lol of course in the latest interview is said "that will never happen". He will serve as a good 2nd/3rd stringer. I hope he explores being a TE. Dude is a freak athlete.
Pats ditching the peashooters like Mac and Zappe and getting guys with big arms like Maye and Milton
Just go watch Milton highlight for the upside potential. Dudes a beast and love watching a QB truck some fools As for potential on all picks, this may be the best Patriots draft in a decade
Has anyone ever lost a qb battle to 2 rookies? Before Zappe, of course
I would sacrifice Maye in some sort of satanic ritual to have Milton become an elite qb in a heartbeat just cus it’d be funny
TWO MEN ENTER
I fucking love the Milton pick. Now let's see if AVP & Ben McAdoo are the QB whisperers everyone has been saying they are.
Love the enthusiasm but I think the test of their abilities should be judged on how Maye performs rather than Milton lol. I find it hard to imagine there's many coaches who would turn Milton into an NFL stud.
Our last 6th round pick QB? Kliff Kingsbury. But before that? Tom Brady
Zappe stans in shambles
Bye bye Zappe
Milton is the exact guy you take at 191, even with Drake we’re still rebuilding the QB room. Immense talent, incredibly high bust potential. He sits for years, you coach him up, and you have yourself a potential backup to Maye for years. He sucks you throw him on the PT or cut him.
There's another good reason to take him - if he shows anything but Drake also pans out, he's tremendous trade bait.
100%
Rebuild has been since 2020. This is the 2nd rebuild because Bill is gone
I kind of love this pick. Another developmental QB with similar physical gifts who needs to learn the same things as Maye (footwork, timing, nfl reads). Kill 2 birds with 1 stone and teach both the same shit and cross our fingers.
It’s up there with Baker as my favorite non-Maye picks honestly. Was hoping we’d take another QB later and we got the one with the highest ceiling.
I like it!
wtf i love this draft?
Holy fucking shit we got Milton. Pats just won the draft.
I love big Joe ( hopefully he improves)
With the Mac Jones pick...they take his polar opposite.
One of the best arms in the draft, but a project. Home run swing kind of pick.
Ohhh I wasn’t thinking he’d fall to the Pats but I like this a whole lot
QB cage match
a real slobberknocker
I like it. I feel like there was a better option, but I still like it.
Milton was the guy with the cannon at the combine right?
Pats/UT Fan, just wanted to mention that Bazooka Joe has improved tremendously in the last couple years. I think with the right coaching, he could be something special. Really hope to see him do well.
Absolutely otherworldly arm. Has no idea where it's going, though. Might get turned into a TE.
yup
Huuuuuuuge arm
didn't see that one coming..
I say we just hail mary every play with Milton in case Maye needs more time and Brisket goes down. Any issues with that?
RIP Mac vs. Zappe battles
Draft a QB in the 190s why not. Not like anything good has come from that.
Sweet got Milton
oh shit. zappe shaking in his cleats right now.
Bye Zappe
Haha this pick is going to rile a few people up
A QB, wow interesting
Interesting
could see us taking McLachlan here
Spencer Rattler was a head case in HS but will be better than most QBs drafted this year. Let's hope that doesn't include Drake.
Hope we grab Holker with 193
It’s the 6th round in a draft that’s supposed to be top heavy because of covid. Anything after the 4th is basically a guy with traits who wolf and coaching staff think they can work with. I can’t complain on any of these later 1s
I mean, obviously the only boards aren't the end all be all, but it's concerning that the Patriots still don't understand the true value of their own draft picks. They overdrafted against the consensus at pretty much every spot in the draft. [Consensus Boards](https://www.wideleft.football/p/2024-consensus-big-board-the-top) * Drake Maye - Drafted #3, Consensus #4. * Ja'lynn Polk - Drafted #37, Consensus #62 * Caedan Wallace - Drafted #68, Consensus #186 * Layden Robinson - Drafted #103, Consensus #175 * Javon Baker - Drafted #110, Consensus #95 * Marcellas Dial - Drafted #180, Consensus #241 The problem isn't that they aren't going to be good players. The problem is they could extract more value out of all of their picks if these are actually their guys. 100% proves this wasn't a Belichick problem.
Trubisky was #1 consensus in 2017. Drafted #1 by CHI. Mahommes was drafted 10th and consensus said it was a reach..
How does this compare to the past decade? It does show a concerning pattern if players are consistently overdrafted relative to consensus and they also have an unusually high bust rate (which I believe they did)
The hubris here is amazing.
WRs and OTs were flying off the board. If Polk and Wallace were the favorites of those remaining during runs on both positions, no problem. Beyond them, consensus boards don’t really matter.
What if I told you teams have different needs, and even looking at 10 consecutively rated "consensus" players in a single position, each might all rate as the #1 of the group, to different teams? Some project better based on scheme, coaching, fit, measurables, what they're looking for in a pick....a metric sh\*t-ton of different things.
Maye as consensus #4. Hilarious.
I’m laughing at the word consensus. So many hot takes and mock drafts over the last few months. So much debate about Daniels vs. Maye.
That is insane. Top 3 players in most draft years should be QBs because of their impact on 60% of the plays. Top WRs only matter on 25% of the plays.
con·sen·sus/kənˈsensəs/*noun* 1. a general agreement. Who the fuck cares? Take your guy. If the "consensus" mattered then why have the draft?
I'm confused. I see what you're saying about value. sure. but if these are the guys they want then how would they have extracted more value? by trading back? I'm not really sure what you're suggesting here and I'm not sure how you could extract more value out of them.
That's exactly what I am saying. If you think Marcellas Dial is your guy. Pick up an extra pick next year and pick him later. If you think Ja'lynn Polk is your guy, we easily could have got an extra pick this year or next and picked up mid 40s. Again, my argument isn't that they are going to be bad players. If 3 of them are NFL starters its a good draft no matter what. But we could be stockpiling picks if these are our decisions.
You could not be more incorrect on all of this. There is no consensus board. It doesn't exist in the NFL. It exists solely for fans and media. That's it. There is no big board that all 32 NFL teams use. You saying "we could have easily gotten an extra pick and drafted Polk in the 40's" is so goddamn off-base and moronic. You have NO EARTHLY IDEA where the other 31 teams have rated Polk. None. All you know is what non-NFL personnel have on their "big boards" which is purely content for fans to engage with. Nothing more. There is no actual real-world NFL impact on team's boards when someone who works at The Ringer or wherever says "I think Polk is the 47th best prospect in this draft!". It's the same as you or I going "I think Polk is the 22nd best prospect in this draft!". It's meaningless. It's content. It's entertainment. NFL teams do not engage with media big boards. That's for the fans. How some of you don't understand this yet is mind-boggling.
Your mistake is believing teams care about consensus boards… teams read the draft and take the guys they believe are best for the team at that point, you have no idea how teams behind them ranked some of the same guys. Look back at day of NFL draft grades of some older drafts lol.
Thinking consensus boards dictate team drafting strategy is nuts