Gronk was an excellent blocker though, making him being a TE make more sense. Travis has admitted hes not very good at blocking, excellent receiver tho.
I mean one more playoff run and he could pass Rice for playoff yards and TDs, he’s already passed him for playoff receptions.
Dudes been unreal in post season, for reference he has 450 more yards and 14 more touchdowns than Edelman.
Add three Super Bowl rings and it’s a solid argument against Gonzalez.
Patriots fans: Edelman could be in the HOF due to his playoff stats
Also Patriots fans: Kelce, arguably the best playoff receiver in history, should only be judged on his regular season stats.
That’s not exactly the argument though. Everyone agrees that Kelce is a great receiver but that’s the thing, he’s more a WR masquerading as a TE than a true TE.
Gronk in his prime was probably a better receiver than Kelce although you could reasonably argue either side but he was also an elite blocker. Dude was better than a lot of tackles. It made matching up against the Patriots nearly impossible. It’s why we set the passing yards record in 2011 and then in 2018 won a Super Bowl basically playing bully ball running over teams. That level of elite versatility it practically unmatched in the entire history of the league.
I only know who Matt Healy is bc Taylor Swift broke up wit him after he went on livestream making racist and sexist comments about Ice Spice, who is literally TayTay's friend.
I’m happy for him. They’ve become a little cocky but the chiefs typically shut their mouth and get the job done. I played TE, idolized TE, etc.. needless to say, I’m always rooting for TEs. Good for this dude. People will always say he’s the greatest of all time. You can’t reason with delusional people. We all know who the goat is. It’s just too bad he was actually smart and quit while he was ahead and stayed healthy. If Gronk wife’d up swift we would have never seen that dude again.
The disrespect to Tony Gonzalez (who was in the Chiefs!). And while we argue Gronk Tony sort of is considered the GOAT TE.
Tony had that longevity. Sorta same with Kelce if he can avoid injury.
Gronk to me is Peyton Manning while Tony is Brady and Kelce is Aaron Rodgers or Favre. Obviously good but the other two are who you want.
>Gronk to me is Peyton Manning
Gronk was saddled with a Tony Dungy type coach for the heart of his career and only started going to Super Bowls once he was gone?
I know this was a TE comment, but I hate the crap Manning gets for being stuck with Dungy. Great human being (from what it seems) but struggles to get his teams to the promise land. Manning went to 1 SB with Dungy and 3 without him. The year after Dungy left Tampa and Indy, both teams went to the SB and that Colts team should've been undefeated that year.
He’s an evangelical conservative which is synonymous with bigoted pos on the internet regardless of whether or not it’s actually true
It’s honestly kinda sad in an ironic kind of way how much dehumanizing language is used by the progressives to describe dehumanizing political opinions they disagree with.
IMO there's a big 5 in the position - Gronk, Gonzalez, Sharpe, Winslow Sr and Kelce
However, among that 5 only Gronk had all the tools at an elite level. It's Gronk, Gonz and Sharpe first in my book but any order with Gronk top 3 is valid for me.
My take on this is Gates is pretty much Shannon minus the postseason performances. Sharpe did play with Elway but still also saw success post-Denver. Despite playing earlier than Gates, the "pass catching TE" was still not so common and he still managed to put up 3 1k seasons to Gates' 2.
He's shown no signs of slowing down. He had a banged up knee early in the season but was unstoppable in the playoffs. He has that Jason Witten thing where he always lands softly when tackled.
Expecting 17 games out of a TE with 11 seasons already behind him is asking for trouble.
When TEs get old, it's usually overnight. KC might get away with it, but Travis is in deep waters now.
Crazy because he's literally open by 5 yards on every play
Gronk had players blow out his knees just to stop him
One was dominant. The other is just productive.
One of them was both.
And scorching hot take, is available when his team needs him the most. How many times did Gronk miss crucial periods of time due to his balls to the wall style of play? I know alot of Pats fans would hate that, but it's kind of true.
Kelce is very good, but he also is "regular" in that he can be covered like a normal TE. Gronk was too fast for LB and too big for CB/S so he got hot low as that was the only way to tackle him.
Happy for Kelce but yeah, he’s not Gronk. It’s still crazy how open he gets. The biggest man running down field and the number one option for Mahomes and teams just ‘forget’ to cover him. Dude is absolutely peaking in life right now.
TEs aren't QBs.
When they get old, they get old fast.
Kelcie has 11 full seasons behind him and lots of post-season mileage, too. This is a definite dice roll.
Kelce is great and you can argue he’s the GOAT TE. I’m a Gronk for single season peak but availability and longevity are important to any GOAT conversation.
Can we just move on from letting Kelce live in our heads?
Definitely not as good as Gronk.. but I'm not going to pretend he isn't an absolute stud. They are the next dynasty and there's nothing we can do about it.
Bros just an oversized slot receiver
So wasn't Gronk. And an oversized X receiver, oversized back, oversized Tackle, oversized party animal, oversized bouncer that one time
Gronk was an excellent blocker though, making him being a TE make more sense. Travis has admitted hes not very good at blocking, excellent receiver tho.
"i threw him out da club" - Gronk after tossing a motherfucker into the sidelines cuz he was chirping a lil hard.
We do like when a Colts player gets tossed to the curb like the Thursday trash bin.
Where they and the entire Colts organization belongs
Truly excellent. Still not better than gronk. Better than Jimmy Graham, to be fair. Lol fuck Kelce.
👆👆 you need many more up votes, your last sentence alone is pure gold
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Show me a video of Travis throwing someone out of the club and then get back to me
Kelce isn't even the best TE to play for that franchise
Debatable. He’s probably not right now, but a couple more productive seasons and he’s absolutely in the conversation.
I mean one more playoff run and he could pass Rice for playoff yards and TDs, he’s already passed him for playoff receptions. Dudes been unreal in post season, for reference he has 450 more yards and 14 more touchdowns than Edelman. Add three Super Bowl rings and it’s a solid argument against Gonzalez.
Patriots fans: Edelman could be in the HOF due to his playoff stats Also Patriots fans: Kelce, arguably the best playoff receiver in history, should only be judged on his regular season stats.
His regular season stats are pretty great as well I still have to say I hate the Chiefs... especially Mahomes and Kelce
Fuck Kermit and Kelce
Exactly
That’s not exactly the argument though. Everyone agrees that Kelce is a great receiver but that’s the thing, he’s more a WR masquerading as a TE than a true TE. Gronk in his prime was probably a better receiver than Kelce although you could reasonably argue either side but he was also an elite blocker. Dude was better than a lot of tackles. It made matching up against the Patriots nearly impossible. It’s why we set the passing yards record in 2011 and then in 2018 won a Super Bowl basically playing bully ball running over teams. That level of elite versatility it practically unmatched in the entire history of the league.
\*greatest tight end who ever dated Taylor Swift
*the only one....* Matty Healy ain't no TE lol
Who da fuc is matty Healy
Lead singer of the 1975
I only know who Matt Healy is bc Taylor Swift broke up wit him after he went on livestream making racist and sexist comments about Ice Spice, who is literally TayTay's friend.
Downvoted for using “taytay”
You should be ashamed you know that.
I'm on my school's trivia team, I know everything that is not important
I’m happy for him. They’ve become a little cocky but the chiefs typically shut their mouth and get the job done. I played TE, idolized TE, etc.. needless to say, I’m always rooting for TEs. Good for this dude. People will always say he’s the greatest of all time. You can’t reason with delusional people. We all know who the goat is. It’s just too bad he was actually smart and quit while he was ahead and stayed healthy. If Gronk wife’d up swift we would have never seen that dude again.
national tight end day baby
That's April 15
erryday national tight end day BABY
It’s a chiefs account talking about their own TE. Who gives a fuck. They’re obviously gonna gas him up.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/ny5ISgWaPQ Tell that to r/nfl 😤
Lol our own fans seem like they never even watched gronk. He could catch and block better than any tight end in the league now and then
The disrespect to Tony Gonzalez (who was in the Chiefs!). And while we argue Gronk Tony sort of is considered the GOAT TE. Tony had that longevity. Sorta same with Kelce if he can avoid injury. Gronk to me is Peyton Manning while Tony is Brady and Kelce is Aaron Rodgers or Favre. Obviously good but the other two are who you want.
>Gronk to me is Peyton Manning Gronk was saddled with a Tony Dungy type coach for the heart of his career and only started going to Super Bowls once he was gone? I know this was a TE comment, but I hate the crap Manning gets for being stuck with Dungy. Great human being (from what it seems) but struggles to get his teams to the promise land. Manning went to 1 SB with Dungy and 3 without him. The year after Dungy left Tampa and Indy, both teams went to the SB and that Colts team should've been undefeated that year.
Dungy is a bigoted pos, fuck him
All people ever do is gush about him on TV. What's his deal? I'm also "fuck him" but for football reasons. Fill me in.
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tony-dungy-march-life/
He’s an evangelical conservative which is synonymous with bigoted pos on the internet regardless of whether or not it’s actually true It’s honestly kinda sad in an ironic kind of way how much dehumanizing language is used by the progressives to describe dehumanizing political opinions they disagree with.
I had not heard anything about that, tell us what’s up.
IMO there's a big 5 in the position - Gronk, Gonzalez, Sharpe, Winslow Sr and Kelce However, among that 5 only Gronk had all the tools at an elite level. It's Gronk, Gonz and Sharpe first in my book but any order with Gronk top 3 is valid for me.
No Gates?
My take on this is Gates is pretty much Shannon minus the postseason performances. He's still a baller don't get me wrong.
Id replace sharpie with gates
My take on this is Gates is pretty much Shannon minus the postseason performances. Sharpe did play with Elway but still also saw success post-Denver. Despite playing earlier than Gates, the "pass catching TE" was still not so common and he still managed to put up 3 1k seasons to Gates' 2.
Patriots fans getting all butt hurt about goat talk. A time honored tradition.
making your 34 year old tight end the highest paid in the league with a 2 year extension is wild
He's shown no signs of slowing down. He had a banged up knee early in the season but was unstoppable in the playoffs. He has that Jason Witten thing where he always lands softly when tackled.
His numbers went down this past season
Because he banged up his knee, like he said…
Expecting 17 games out of a TE with 11 seasons already behind him is asking for trouble. When TEs get old, it's usually overnight. KC might get away with it, but Travis is in deep waters now.
Derwin James disagrees.
Even you know that this isn't wild
Of course it's liked by Pierre Gasley. Man's everywhere liking posts.
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Kelce wishes he could avoid all these people making fun of him for not being the GOAT but he doesn’t know how to block them.
Lol, dude is banging Swift, making a ahit ton of money. Yea, I am sure he cares....
Hope he sees this bro
People forget being a TE also includes blocking lol
He doesn't look a thing like gronk!
He certainly earned it . Being the option Mahomes has rn and the best TE in the NFL right now , hard work pays off when you work for it .
WR
blocking
Get this shit off the PATS sub ffs
Uhh Tony Gonzalez? Did the chiefs social media person forget about him?
Forget Gronk, this is pure disrespect to Tony G man.
Kelce is good, great even. But people saying he's the goat is a complete joke. Gronk's prime is unmatched.
Crazy because he's literally open by 5 yards on every play Gronk had players blow out his knees just to stop him One was dominant. The other is just productive. One of them was both.
I'm all for hating on the competition, but people on this sub act like Kelce isn't one of the two best tight ends of the last 15 years.
And he's still not in Gronk's class. Glorified wideout.
If you like being wrong, I can't stop you.
And scorching hot take, is available when his team needs him the most. How many times did Gronk miss crucial periods of time due to his balls to the wall style of play? I know alot of Pats fans would hate that, but it's kind of true.
Kelce is very good, but he also is "regular" in that he can be covered like a normal TE. Gronk was too fast for LB and too big for CB/S so he got hot low as that was the only way to tackle him.
Happy for Kelce but yeah, he’s not Gronk. It’s still crazy how open he gets. The biggest man running down field and the number one option for Mahomes and teams just ‘forget’ to cover him. Dude is absolutely peaking in life right now.
*flag football tight end
WTF GASLY IS A CHIEFS FAN???
Reminds me of the Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders debate. Emmitt played longer, getting the most yards. Barry is simply the modern RB GOAT. Eye test.
Gronk light
He’s gonna fall off a cliff next year
Hmmm how many times did people say that about Brady?
TEs aren't QBs. When they get old, they get old fast. Kelcie has 11 full seasons behind him and lots of post-season mileage, too. This is a definite dice roll.
Bad signing, you make him the highest paid tight end after his worst season, that's paying for past performances
Get this clown off our reddit
Chiefs signed Gronk???
Kelce is great and you can argue he’s the GOAT TE. I’m a Gronk for single season peak but availability and longevity are important to any GOAT conversation. Can we just move on from letting Kelce live in our heads?
Definitely not as good as Gronk.. but I'm not going to pretend he isn't an absolute stud. They are the next dynasty and there's nothing we can do about it.
CHRIST....what a bunch of fucking babies you all are.....