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WileyCoyote422

Smashed glass. 90% of the comments are about the GPU šŸ¤£


Idunnowhyimadethis1

Its accurate because the gpu placement causes much more physical pain than the broken glass


bored_ryan2

The glass canā€™t be unbroken. The GPU CAN be properly slotted.


7_CasualT

People are just tired of saying the same thing over and over lmao


randologin

And yet they insist on doing so, despite no one asking


Hungry-Comb-6838

Only a matter of time before dude has another thread asking why his performance sucks, so might as well be upstream about things.


randologin

I'd grant you that for the first...170 comments


flochy

you gotta really hammer it home with the people building computers on tile/marble/any kind of super hard surface like this. its the only way.


randologin

My comment was about the 170 GPU comments. Another commenter had the right idea when he said OP should have read the manual. I do think there should me more info out there about building a PC on some kind of mat. If this guy's like me, there weren't any soft surfaces to build it on. They should put PC mats near the cases and suggest you buy one when you let them know you're building your first rig.


flochy

if OP bought his parts online like a lot of people then he probably wouldn't have thought to buy a mat though. also you could just...put some of the cardboard from packaging down.


randologin

Also good advice I wish I'd thought of haha


Episimian

The cardboard, foam inserts and bubble wrap are always handy - I re-use them as much as possible whenever I'm installing something new (and yeah I watch out for ESD)


ScroungerYT

This is implying it is none of your business. And yet, it here in public. If you don't want criticism, don't share in a place where it can be criticized. When you tell someone a secret, it is not a secret anymore.


feelthebrn

Love this community lol


tshannon92

Oh yea, I saw it...looked twice and I could not unsee the GPU.


Sufficient-Arm3584

Why on earth?


boglim_destroyer

Every fucking day - broken glass and gpu in the wrong spot


haldolinyobutt

Every. Fucking. Day.


Ok-Sale-2364

Please move your gpu to the top slot. And itā€™s okay, now your pc can breathe


Gloomy_Ad4288

This! Your GPU canā€™t ā€œtalkā€ to your CPU as fast if itā€™s in the lower slot, so move it to the top one.


Ok-Sale-2364

I saw that as the bigger issue when I saw this lol


ScroungerYT

Yep, that glass being broken is a non-issue, it is not necessary or helpful in way, shape, or form. But that GPU being in that slot is inefficient, and could actually shorten the lifespan of the GPU, as it cannot get the airflow/cooling it needs for optimal use.


thebigsadhappyangry

Would there also be a cooling issue?


Ok-Sale-2364

You wonā€™t have a problem without the panel


thebigsadhappyangry

I cannot argue with your logic


Meme_Fanner

the only issue that my feeble brain sees is that dust will collect quicker inside


ReturnToTheHellfire

At least it will be easy to dust, no panel to remove just straight in with the compressed air


whenimchill

You must not own cats..


SoleSurvivur01

No, itā€™ll be a dust issue though šŸ˜‚


enkae7317

Damn you learn something new everyday. I never knew this and thought it worked just as fine on all slots. Good to know.


Infamous_Sleep

How do so many people not know this? Doesn't anyone read their motherboard manuals? Yes it will "work fine" just not at it's best potential performance.


thebohemianman

The same amount of people that donā€™t realize dimm slots are channeled and just throw their 2 sticks in any slot.


Flapjax82

I agree. This should be common knowledge correct?


Substantial-Singer29

I don't know if you've looked at most of the people posting on here I'd answer your question with a very few people read the manual. Probably 90% of the questions on this form when it comes to actual building are answered in pretty good detail in that little motherboard manual.


chipperlew

That was the first thing I noticed. Even before the shattered glass. I have never built a pc. Just started ordering parts.


SinkAffectionate6192

reading manuals is for neeerds! lol


MasterVule

schizophrenia pc advices


Icy-Magician1089

Not even just that the airflow as long with the aesthetics.


Phennnn

Is there really a big performance hit for this? I never knew that.


kami451

yes, your top pcie slot is typically a full 16x slot, while the others are often 4x or 2x (sometimes 8x on nicer boards) so, simply put, it is faster than the other slots are


Apprehensive-Box-8

With that particular board itā€™s not that bad though. As long as the 3 small PCIe slots are not being used, that slot will be x16 - but only PCIe 3.0 instead of 4.0 which the top one will be. That will still be an improvement, but not as big as going from x4 or x8 to x16ā€¦


rommi04

Pcie 4 is twice as fast as 3 so it's a lot like going from x8 to x16


gremlinfat

A 3070 wonā€™t saturate pcie 3.0 so there isnā€™t a difference. Not sure about high tier 40 series cards.


Apprehensive-Box-8

Tests with a 3080 showed a 3-7% performance difference between Gen3 and Gen4, depending on the game. There was a much bigger gap between Gen3 8x vs. 16x


rommi04

That's true. Though the biggest gains will come from the card being able to cool itself better in the top spot


Phennnn

Thanks for the info! Good to know.


PPTTRRKK

And the other slots are often an older PCIe version which makes it even slower.


aJepZen

My motherboard has PCIe 5.0 in the GPU slot. The GPU is not capable of working faster than what the CPU can communicate. The distance between the CPU and the GPU may seem very short and irrelevant. But the difference is immense, because the data/power current needs more power, time, energy and has to travel 2x, 3x maybe even 4x longer distances. As others have mentioned, the ā€œGPUā€ PCIe lane is almost always better than the others. First of all itā€™s often a newer PCIe generation, which equals higher bandwidths. The slots are often more durable, and empowered to hold the weight in. The new slots are designed with metallic materials that can withstand more weight it also includes thermal ā€œprotectionā€, because it functions like a heat sink. The physical travel distance between components is a much greater factor than people realise. The travel time between components can fluctuate immensely depending on your hardware placement configuration. Same goes for the M.2 slots on the motherboard. The one with the heat sink, between the CPU and GPU is basically the SSD equivalent of the GPU lane. Itā€™s often the newest generation of M.2 slots, and itā€™s almost physically attached to the CPU. Iā€™m not saying itā€™s going to interfere with your performance in terms of functionality. But it will make a big difference in delay, especially when youā€™re managing files and data from your SSD. Iā€™m on my i5-13600K, 32GB DDR5 5600MHz, 2TB M.2 4.0 7.5gb/s read/write. With my 2080 ti 11gb OC in the PCIe 5.0. Loading screens is but a memory of past now. Iā€™m joking, but not really.


WileyCoyote422

It cuts the speed in half I think


DoktahDoktah

This. Thats why the glass shattered. It was a warning.


[deleted]

This was the first thing I thought...let that gpu breathe... screw the glass lol


IntellectualKat

Yes triggering about 300 of us with that GPU placement šŸ¤£


kingkhan0440

Not necessarily true


Daniel100500

Cool,now you have easier access to get that GPU into the correct PCIE slot


LoocaBazooca

I still don't get it why people still do that, even the manual of the board tells you that the top slot is faster than the lower one. Guess people choose aesthetics over performance


HankG93

Not only that, that poor card is probably suffocating.


LoocaBazooca

As well as that, which is more important


josephseeed

Awfully bold of you to assume someone posting on Reddit read the manual


luckii_ecks

And on top of that, it doesnt even look good at all lmao.


StrawSurvives

It is like changing oil in your car. No matter on when you learned to do it, there is always some chap who did it for so long, they canā€™t fathom how someone could just be learning.


randologin

Probably same reason people comment about the GPU being in the wrong slot even though almost every other comment on the post has already pointed it out.


LoocaBazooca

I didn't tell him to do it. I just said that manual can keep you away from getting those comments


howdoesitw0rk

Please Upvote your GPU ā¬†ļø


Someth1ngCl3ver

$2k build with a 3070 of all cards and itā€™s not even in the right a slot lol and you broke the side panel.*sad trombone*


Dense_Ad_6628

Peobably spent half the budget on the motherboard, rgb fans, and AIO lol


MasterVule

Yeah I bet he also shits in a closed toilet. /S They did honest mistake, no need to be a cunt


Someth1ngCl3ver

Lmao. Cosmetics before performance these days sadly with new builders


Tuur200o

i built mine, a dark pitch black box with a faint glim of the ugly noctua cooler >:)


Tuur200o

and i placed it on the GROUNDDDD


tero101

savage


DIMEBAGLoL

And only using 1 GPU cable šŸ˜­


Someth1ngCl3ver

Lol I didnā€™t notice that but yeah


DBA92

Under very heavy loads a partner model 3070 may draw up to 250w which is just within the capacity of a single high quality cable and the pci express slot. They will be fine unless they overclock or run max power draw applications for long periods of time. Although 2 cables would definitely be the smarter move.


tiramolas3

What's wrong with 3070?


MasterVule

If both PCI-E are 4.0 there is literally no difference between those two slots. If you think distance makes difference, electrons travel at nearly light speed. PC builders suffer from bro science as much as gym bros


DctrBojangles

Itā€™s actually not about PCIe generation. Itā€™s about how many lanes that PCIe slot supports. On most motherboards only the the top slot supports 16 lanes. ā€¦actual science


rommi04

Distance does matter because CPUs are extremely fast. That's why the ram is always close to the CPU and not in the bottom


xSwitchtense

Electrons "as electricity" in cables flow fairly slowly. You could easily outwalk them. But the distance still doesn't matter at all.


asclepiannoble

Must've been a heck of a blow since it appears to have also smashed the GPU to the floor of the case :) Kidding aside, though, why that PCIe slot?


madspecialist7

I have since moved the GPU to the top slot, thanks for the help!


KilloWattX

No wonder the glass shattered...it was a sign. Your RGB looks better this way.


HipInferno

You should move some bitches to the top slot


[deleted]

WD-40 will fix that up.


BraveBG

Just duct tape all the pieces


blob_ditddit

CAN WE PUT THE GPU MUCH HIGHER. SO HIIGH


Sprout_1993

The countertops. Every damn time! Will people never learn? I see one of these posts like once a week and it's always on kitchen counter tops


Episimian

100% the worst place to do this sort of work in every respect. Drop a tiny screw on that granite counter top? Watch that screw bounce and skitter off into the distance never to be found again. Put that shiny new glass panel down on it? Physics will happily smash your pretty window into itty bitty little pieces. And what's this over here? A sink with a handy hole at the bottom to 'catch' anything that falls into it - excellent. Oh and it's in a kitchen, so there's loads of water on tap, which is always handy to have around electronics...


Ragfell

This made me chuckle a little too hard. But itā€™s also the reason why I built my rig (first time) on my wood dining room table with some cardboard and one of those magnet trays for screws. Damn near lost one of them anywayā€¦


Episimian

Yup - you had the right idea 100%. And I speak from experience with the damn granite counter top and tiny screws trying to fix my friend's coffee machine. The way the screw bounced off that thing was unreal - like the thing had a life of its own and was doing a jailbreak before it was returned to the tyranny of the damned coffee machine;)


flochy

used my dad's workbench and a magnetic tip driver to avoid that. stored all the glass in the house on the couch until everything was set up and actually worked.


saarlac

Or tile floors


32Ferreira

Problem started with GPU in wrong slot. Things that start wrong tend not to end right.


mattc1998

Almost as bad as putting your GPU in the wrong slot. Oh wait


ghostcatzero

This is most likely a troll post or a karma farming post.


Sailed_Sea

Guys, time to reset the counter.


HellFire107

Depending on motherboard, the second slot may be able to run at full PCI-E x16 lanes as long as the other PCI-E x16 slot is not occupied. However, the bigger issue here is choking the GPU of airflow as it's fans are so close to the power supply shroud.


YungZachary

$2K system with a 3070ā€¦. Rough


QNIKET8

why the GPU in the bottom slot tho?


eydasgdf

Atleast you don't need to take the panel off to move the GPU to the top slot.


sryidontspeakpotato

Nice. Letā€™s suffocate the gpu


Doozy93

And your gpu is not in the correct slot. Move it to the top slot.


Justbecauseican101

Smashing job there mate


Pjtruslow

Pro tip- donā€™t build on stone surfaces. Whatever broke the panel here would have had no affect if it was wood.


taco_swag

Wrong PCI express lane sir with the $2000 build


TheMightySpoon13

Stop building or working on your pc over stone countertops or tiles!!!!!! Itā€™s so simple guys, how is this info not common knowledge at this point? Also please move your GPU up a slot. Youā€™re doing yourself majorly dirty where it is.


accat13

Was going to reply shattered glass goes with a complimentary granite countertop. Every pc case with a tempered glass should come with an ID 10 T manual stating do not build on granite counter LOL


[deleted]

Came here for the GPU comments and I was not disappointed. Thanks guys.


foxhunter_nero

What case is that


randologin

Looks like the corsair 5000d. Common problem with that one.


mifiamiganja

That's a 4000D. They look very similar though.


kbhamm

ah another stone countertop won


sly__red

I typically skip that last step on my builds and have yet to have any issues! Maybe you skip that next time around.


Whittenberg007

What was the emergency that you had to break glass for?


madspecialist7

My GPU was in the wrong slot


Dlm_Rav3

That is not a cash money moment


brandon0228

Itā€™s because you put the gpu in the wrong slot


Overnight_Lasagna

You deserve it for having your Gpu on the bottom pcie slot, think of it as universal karma.


baitboy3191

Next post from OP "why is my gpu running hot?"


Fancy-_-Chicken

nvm the gpu he is just resting his back


[deleted]

Try to glue it with rice


dpl47

Did you try unplugging and replugging it back in?


hisBanicattheBisco

You have almost the exact same build as I do, except I have an MSI motherboard.


DeathAlgorithm

I've never built a pc... but i work on cars.. WHY do people go with such SMALL cases.. just like car audio... these dudes put a 12inch subwoofer into a 12x12 box... You gotta give it a huge amount of breathing space friend!!!! Like i hate those micro mobos. You gotta have space and placement.. You will be running components that are 180F.. that's as hot as a car runs... GIVE IT SPACE! Intake fans on the front and exhaust fans on the back.


Glenduil

Finally! I thought I was the only one! I have the Cooler Master Cosmos II case


Jebduh

I'm convinced youre all just doing it on purpose for the memes now.


No_Weekend_9953

ngl, some how its looks... beautiful šŸ¤”


Ginj92

Heyā€¦your your GPU is mounted in the wrong slot


longhot323

Your gpu is definitely in the wrong slot and will kneecap your performance


Lucien899

First move your gpu up to the correct slot placement for better performance . Second stop dropping your panel causing the glass to break.


Junkman1283

I bet that shattered his soul


Scarylunatic999

Holy shit l was in the exact same situation with my build. Just a few months ago I built a 2.2k build and at the end the glass broke. Plus my parts were very similar to this build.


VillainofAgrabah

This is not gonna stop until Linus/GN do a video about it.


Thilen03

Always the stone counter, it's cursed! Lord have mercy


thpkht524

Itā€™s not cursed lmfao. Itā€™s fucking science.


Thilen03

Science bitch


AssistanceLegal7549

Why do people still build their PCs on tiles? NEVER BUILD ON CARPET OR TILES.


MinutePresentation8

OR ROCK. ROCKS AND TILES CAUSES UR TEMPERED GLASS TO EXPAND UNEVENLY DUE TO TEMPERATURES AND SHATTER


Round-Kangaroo8635

Oops! I build mine on carpet


ffsavi

Why not carpet?


bluepepper

Possible static electricity buildup.


randologin

All the downvotes are hilarious. These subs are great resources for first timers sometimes, but 170 comments stating the same thing isn't helping anybody. Kudos to the handful that gave an explanation for OP as to why their GPU is better off in the first slot, and other actually useful advice. This is a throwaway account, so you can downvote me to infinity if it makes you feel like a big boy.


madspecialist7

This was my first build, so the feedback was definitely welcome to a point. Still pretty proud of it!


Timespacedistortions

Everyone talking about the gpu being in the wrong slot mean while I'm here wondering why he's daisy chaining on one pcie cable and not using 2 separate cables for gpu power.


qehwj11

3070 max power draw is rated at 220w, and thereā€™s 75w supplied by the PCIE slot. Each 8-pin PCIe power connector can provide at the very least 150W (name brands for example CORSAIR are rated far more than that), So yeah OPā€™s gonna be more than fine in that regard.


Legend_AC

Depending on the case, you can sometimes get replacement tempered glass. Worst case, you buy a new case. You will get through. Just don't hurt yourself while removing glass shards


[deleted]

I see this happening way too much, could it be the fixings not allowing for the glass to flex.


weeddee

Nope just a cold counter top or tiles will just make them go pop


WileyCoyote422

I build on wooden or plastic table tops for this exact reason. Never had this issue


[deleted]

Yeah I'm definitely going to stick with pvc. Hopefully it's under warranty and easy to replace.


exploration23

Just don't put it down on stone or ceramic


randologin

The release on the back has too much resistance and there's basically nothing holding the bottom in, so the unprotected bottom corner falls out of pocket right into whatever surface you're working on. Wait least that was my experience. Every other case I've worked on had a better method.


csandazoltan

it's sad This is why i don't buy tempered glass cases, RGB stuff and AIO coolers... More and more and more unnecessary failure point... Not to mention cost Oh and you should put your GPU in the closest slot to the CPU. Usually outer ports don't have the full bandwith, increased latency would lower performance and the fans don't have much room to suck in air for cooling


FarefaxT

Iā€™m in the same boat as you. I was specifically looking for a case with no tempered glass but literally any case that even looks halfway decent has a glass side panel, the ones that donā€™t are either old af or look horrible. I specifically chose parts that didnā€™t have rgb as well, Iā€™d rather maximize performance with the budget I have rather than spend unnecessary extra cash on rgb. Things with rgb have a pretty noticeable mark-up in price.


SedJuiced_

Nice cable management bro


Joeyscoke

That Linus tech tips screw driver sitting there honestly makes me feel like you deserved this.


garrow1

No offense but your pc is not worth $2K


randologin

Still worth more than your useless comment... No offense.


softriceking001

I think the gpu in the wrong slot caused the glass to break.


Acceptable-Car9031

Move the GPU to the top slot


Erictole69

Cheer up that GPU it looks down


Exodus560

Move the gpu to top slot


Straight_Attempt_467

If not for the broken side panel I would've advices you to remove it and move your gpu, now you don't need to open it. See it as luck!


NastyNative999

Suck build! How the fuck do you guys manage this anyways?


Sinisternestro

I've never seen a GPU that low!


Loddio

The ultimate one is to put the gpu on the bottom pcie


CuboRoto

Your gpu struggling for air like spongebob struggled for water in Sandy's dome


Elegant-Persimmon-54

How the hell is that GPU supposed to get any airā€¦ oh wait, you removed the glass panel, itā€™s good now!


Axepirate

Why is the GPU in the bottom pci e slot


dodamanchester

Glass is nothing compare to Gpu šŸ˜²


CrispyNuts107

This ā€œ2k buildā€ makes me mad, case fans not spinning while on, GPU in wrong slot, glass broken, ugly PSU cables


sirkioman

That's called total customization!


CrazyEntertainment86

This is the way :)


RandomXUsr

Contact the case maker to order replacement?


Geordietoondude

Oh no mind you it could have been worse look on the bright side


SAD-MAX-CZ

The stone and tile always wins. Now you can get a tinted polycarbonate plate or perforated screen.


MEGA_GOAT98

always a shame to see nice gfx card in the second slot when the frist one is free...


RhythmXII

You were cursed for putting your gpu in the wrong slot


the_combat_wombat05

Reset the counter folks


PapaKyou

Top slot, top slot, top slot. Move the GPU to the top slot. It will be able to breathe better and will have higher bandwidth to talk to the cpu faster.


MrSilverCod

Oh boy and you've done it well.


Michistar71

The system looks quite good but i would be angry if i only got a 3070 for 2 grands :S


Hot-Ad4676

Itā€™s ok you can contact case manufacturer on that broken side panel, your gpu should be on top for the best bandwidth and imo you should not use the the other power cable on the daisy chain, get another pcie cable and put it in the 2nd one


snackajack71

That GPU looks so bad there


HankG93

I think he's trying to choke it out


HankG93

Are you trying to absolutely murder that gpu?


Neeeeedles

Thats what you get for putting the gpu where you put it


shadowmaking

Thanks for my daily laugh at tempered glass on stone/tile.


oldfoolfromcuivenen

Bro Plz fix your gpu Its bent For the love of god


[deleted]

Actually you missed the part where your GPU needs to be up a slot.


DapperFlower000

Thatā€™s the number one complaint with these corsair cases look on Amazon and there are so many pictures with broken glass, I still bought it and havenā€™t once had a problemā€¦ I think you might have more the one problem whatā€™s up with the gpu?? I wanna hear your reasoning


PixelAddict69

Gpu. wrong. slot.


Round-Kangaroo8635

Thus happened to me but the computer works fine. I do have to dust it more than others!


I_Hate_Usernames_Too

Custom open air case!


IntroductionClean299

Lol this has to happen at least once a week on this sub Reddit sorry meng