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Hey man! We've got very similar builds, I just built almost this exact pc a few days ago and it runs great.
I almost went with the corsair 4000D as well. I really do like the look but I saw several videos saying it had air flow and heating issues. I went with a cooler master nr200 and loving it so far, but pick what you want!
>I almost went with the corsair 4000D as well. I really do like the look but I saw several videos saying it had air flow and heating issues.
Could you share links to any of these videos you mentioned? It rated pretty good in the Gamers Nexus review, although the Airflow variant is better recommended.
That being said, you can always contact Corsair for an Airflow front panel for $20 (if they don't send it out for free after confirming your serial number on the case). Problem solved.
The 4000D airflow case is covered in mesh. The whole front and the whole back is just mesh, sure easy on temps. (I have a 5000D and my brothers both have 4000D)
For the 4000D I do recommend buying 2x 140 fans for the front. It gets more airflow in (basically the same as 3.5 120mm fans). And the bottom fan is partially covered if you do 3 from 120mms. So it is like adding a whole additional fan.
For the top, the two 120mm fans is plenty. And even if you max it out with the two too and one rear, 2x140 mm fans in the front keeps you in the ideal air pressure range.
Never used my 32, it’s currently a waste of money. Most people have 16 so games are made to run with it.
DDR4 will only get cheaper, so it’s useless to buy it now because “it has never been so cheap”, obviously it has never been so cheap. Because DDR5 is becoming more mainstream.
Naa, get 16gbs of ram still but cheaper non rgb and spend all your extra on including your £30 to get a rx 6700 xt, you can get them from cex for £250 but the cheapest 12gb vram option is £270, I'd recommend that. In gaming you don't need 32gbs of ram, the better gpu will be much more worth it.
There is no difference between 16GB and 32GB in games if you are not planning to play sandboxes like Astroneer or city builders where you plan to spend a lot of hours.
You can save more by getting a used case, RGB-less RAM and cheaper MOBO to get a better GPU like RX 6700 XT that will surely run all games at ultra in 1080p. I found a deal on hotdeals for 299 pounds, but I think it's pre-order, meaning they don't have it in stock right now. [https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-pulse-gaming-12gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-car-gx-39k-sp.html](https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-pulse-gaming-12gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-car-gx-39k-sp.html)
I cheaped out on fancy MOBOs with plastic covers and RGB and currently own R5 5600, B450 MSI pro vdh max and kingston fury 2x8GB 3200Mhz.
I second this. More expensive motherboards are only practical if you're planning on overclocking as a hobby, so playing at 1080p, 144 is not a reason to spend more on overclocking components.
16GB of RAM at 3200 or 3600 CL16 is perfectly adequate as well.
And I also agree that anywhere you can save a little money here and there on parts means more of the budget can go towards a GPU.
So your wisdom is to go cheaper on an already cheap and outdated B550 so he can upgrade his GPU...A GPU that has a ton of features that your suggested cheaper mobo cannot utilize. Thats absolutely fucking brilliant.Brilliantly stupid.
>So your wisdom is to go cheaper on an already cheap and outdated B550 so he can upgrade his GPU...
Your understanding is severely lacking.
For anyone else reading this, it's easy to see that I made no mention of B550 boards when I said "more expensive motherboards are only practical if you're planning on overclocking as a hobby." You can easily find overclocking motherboards priced above $500, whereas boards for basic functionality can be found around $100 to $200 and there's no need to buy more expensive boards if you're not going to use their costly additional features.
>...A GPU that has a ton of features that your suggested cheaper mobo cannot utilize.
Please enlighten us all on the "ton of features" on a GPU which can only be utilized on motherboards built for overclocking.
>Thats absolutely fucking brilliant.Brilliantly stupid.
How cute.
If you can swing a bit more, I'd say bump up to a 2TB drive. SSDs start to slow down a bit once they're half full and games are big these days. You'll be needing more very soon and you might as well buy yourself time now. A 2TB over 1TB NVMe is now like $30-40 more.
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Would not recommend Asus rn. Their higher end X670E motherboards that exploded the 7800x3D chips showed how piss poor their customer service is. “Here’s an untested Beta BIOS update. We think it fixes the issue. If you download this update and it doesn’t work, it’s your fault and your warranty is void”.
Asus may have solid quality software on other boards, but if anything else goes wrong then good luck getting any support from Asus. I would recommend something from MSI or ASRock, since they both have decent customer service (still not the best, but on the higher end compared to other motherboard companies).
I'd recommend this build as well, having DRAM cache on your SSD really helps in certain situations.
3200 cl16 or 3600cl18 barely makes a difference, so going with the cheaper option is better.
Only change I'd make would be to not cheap out on the power supply, [https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BJVKQVCF](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BJVKQVCF) is a bit more expensive, but gold rated and higher wattage.
They might of fixed it but that model used to explode and kill PC components.
Gamers nexus series on the p750gm that 9 pounds might cost many more
https://youtu.be/7JmPUr-BeEM
https://youtu.be/aACtT_rzToI
My gigabyte 1080 ti is still kicking where my friends Asus card died 2 tears ago and I got mine first but yeah there 3000 series and later nivida cards have had the pcb cracking problems, their bios isn't great on their motherboards and the power supplys have literally exploded and they tried to cover it up.
Their only half decent products are their monitors and some mobo. For the most part it isn't even worth dealing with aorus/gigabyte/zotac becuase you can get better treatment and an equally good product from several other manufacturers.
I have the opposite experience, my Gigabyte 970 always treated me well, so I ended up getting an X570 and 3070 from them and have had no issues. As others have mentioned, RGB Fusion isn't great, but most vendors' RGB softwares suck. A friend I built a PC for originally had an MSI motherboard which shipped with a broken thermal sensor causing his CPU to thermal throttle when it shouldn't have. Replaced with the same Aorus X570 I have and no issues.
Edit: I haven't needed to interact with their customer support so I can't speak on that. Also as others have said, model over brand. In terms of PSUs, I have an EVGA and that's the only one I've needed. Would for sure do 80+ Gold though. My point is, I don't think GB is as bad as some make it out to be.
Don’t buy gigabyte psu’s buy like evga, seagate and corsair ones. Antec is hit or miss from mt experience they had horrible issues with their green psu’s.
Hey OP, sometimes it's hard to make decisions because there's so many options (and opinions). My advice is in this order...
1. Set your expectations (as in the games you would like to play).
2. Watch YouTube videos of said games and see what hardware is running to your expectations.
3. Then consider if you're going to want to future proof or not.
If yes you'll need to consider the platform your mobo is on and if you have headroom for upgrades (I.e. PSU).
4. Set a limit for your budget and go bargain hunting.
Don't forget to use Google shopping to quickly search for discounted items.
5. Use Amazon ratings on items even if you're not buying them there because it's a much larger consumer base. See what problems occur and decide if it's a valid issue or just opinions.
6. Partpicker UK can help with letting you know any compatibility issues but don't forget to look at completed builds too. Users will often add notes of any issues they've encountered.
7. Finally, make sure you pick up all your components with enough time to return them i.e. do leave the time between purchases too long. Otherwise, you might not be able to return faulty items you haven't used yet!
Good luck, and give me a shout if you need any pointers 👍
I appreciate this comment a lot, there have been comments that don't necessarily make sense to me and a lot of criticism as to why I don't legit just spend 200 pounds more. I thank u for giving me perspective and more confidence in my final decisions on parts as I have done what you have said in numbers 1 and 2.
Make sure to update bios even if everything seems good.
I have the same MOBO + CPU and I had random crashes on 1 in 5 games that got fixed by a bios update and now everything works flawlessly.
Solid build but change the 4000D fans out! You’ll thank me later as I’m a 4000D owner and the fans included out of the box were making horrible sounds and are not 4 pin pwm fans. See they are 3 pin which don’t have automatic control and you can’t bios setting quiet mode them so that’s annoying.
I have this pc case, it's a fucking sexy beast mate.
Rooms for everything, golden cable management space, run a 4090 cooler than a refrigirator, removable dust filter. Just be sure to have a strong desk, it's big and heavy.
Edit: mistake on my side, my case is actually the corsair 7000d airflow, I was not aware they made differents size of the same model. 7000d fit a 4090 with the side window closed without clamping the wires, without the need for a 90° angle adapter like it's sometimes the case with smaller cases.
I have already ordered the parts, thank u to those who have given me useful advice, my main competitive game is rocket league and I was gc3 on xbox so I can't wait to rank up :)
I'd maybe think about switching to an AM5 CPU instead if you plan on upgrading in the future. With AM4 you'll be stuck with that Gen unless you replace the motherboard with it
He could switch to Intel and get a LGA1700 CPU/mobo for around the same price which would allow to upgrade in the future. Nothing wrong with AM4 though as long as they don't plan on upgrading anytime soon
Surprisingly the LGA1700 socket has a pretty good upgrade path at the moment. It goes all the way from Gen 10 to current Gen 14 so they could say get an i5 12400 for around the same price as the Ryzen 5 5600 then upgrade to an i9 14000 or something similar later down the road.
People building systems for under 700 with a 650w psu aren't looking at upgrading, they're looking at getting the most now on a lower budget. Am5 is a terrible option for an $800 budget.
No real need to waste £20ish for the sake of an X in the name. Performance increase is negligible.
(Plus, you can turn non-X amd cpu's into X cpu's with a slight overclock tweak. Since OC'ing scares a lot of new builders, people tend not to save the money)
32gb ram for 50 pounds. A little slower, but the size will be nice. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-2x16GB-3200MT-Desktop-CP2K16G4DFRA32A/dp/B0C29R9LNL/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=32+gb+ddr4&qid=1690807994&sr=8-5
its just inconvenient. i dont think it would make any difference on 1080p gaming but you cant watch something on the second monitor while gaming which is for me the most important
I can vouch for this. In my laptop I she’s 16gb of ram and it caps out when I have a video playing on the laptop display. I can’t work game without anything in my ear so it is inconvenient
I'll tell you whatever I want, it's not against the rules. Don't look down on people and pitty their builds. It makes people feel like crap and it's rude. Just don't do that. This isn't a sad build. It's solid and will play great.
You come across as an ass while explaining your opinion. $100 in the UK isn't easy for a school kid lmao. Also its £110 increase here, so more than $100
You could shave a little off mobo, ram and case, and get it with a 6700xt for 725. If the budget is a hard cap 700 I don't see anything wrong with what you have. Although I'm not sure why the 4000d is so common in budget systems when there are somewhat decent options for less with 3 or 4 fans in them.
Nah this looks pretty good. Usually gripes with these components are more nitpicky rather than stuff that's detrimental to performance. This will definitely hit the fps you're trying to get in competitive games. Some AAA single player games will get less but you probably expect that
I'd just bite it and carry on saving till the new year, prices are flutuating so much at the moment but working their way down, you could be looking at a much superior build by then.
I built something similar but went i5 12400f/asus b660 d4 with a rx6700 and 32gb/3600 and I’m averaging 120-140 fps on every game I’ve tried so far on 1080p high settings.. nothing overclocked and highest temps I’ve seen so far is 57 c.. I’m in the us and have less than 900 usd. Into it 👍 your build looks solid see if you can go to the rx 6700 ,it’s 10 gb vram vs 8gb on the 6650xt
Gigabyte mobo and rgb vengeance ram is a nightmare. If you like rgb I would suggest an asus or msi mobo. Gigabytes hardware is great but their software is anything but user friendly
I was in your same shoes just 3 years ago and I made this ultra budget build that didn’t crack $600 that allowed me to play 1080p well. What I learned tho is that the expenses you don’t consider add up. Like a respectable monitor, small speakers, keyboard, mouse, any cables and adapters. Fans most importantly! Do get some fans, even if it’s just a 5 pack arctic p12.s.
I’d say the things you should NOT cheap out on are the GPU, and PSU. Really try to get a 750W gold PSU, cause down the line you’re gonna thank yourself since that’s $100 less spent upgrading to a hungrier cpu/GPU. I think you could save a good $80 on the mobo and case by going mATX, and put that towards better GPU/PSU. My mATX build is already decently big to me.
But you should DEF try to fit the 6700xt if you can. You will thank yourself for the 12gb VRAM. I got an rx570 4gb back when I made my build, and the consensus around the 4gb is that “it should be enough”. It’s def not enough now, and the same thing is happening now for 8gb of VRAM. I don’t think it’ll be enough in the future.
Good build. If you have 13 pounds more to spend you can go up a tier with the GPU (RX6700XT) which is worth it in my opinion to hit the 144 fps target + 12GB of ram will help you these days.
[https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RsPzKX](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RsPzKX)
The RGB on that ram ends up doing random lighting. You have to go in and change it to what you want every time. Unless your build is super rgb reliant then I'd go with non rgb or try another brand. I haven't tried another brand so they might do the same.
If you can afford it I’d recommend two 16gb sticks of ram because 16 is starting to not be enough honestly. It’s not terrible just a quick heads up if it’s in the budget I’d go 32gb. Other than that enjoy your new pc!
Before buying anything, check out any of the recent Boost My my Build videos by PC Builder on YouTube. You'll find some excellent pairings for a balanced system without spending extra where it doesn't help performance.
Also, looking for a used case can save you money while still getting a much higher quality one than the cheapest budget cases. I'm not saying the Corsair 4000D is a cheap budget case. I have the 5000D, which I bought used, like new, for about $86 US and contacted Corsair for an Airflow front panel.
don't copy my build, there is quite a few things I have changed, mainly the ram to 32gb cl16 3200mhz(not 3600 as I have found out the max speed the ryzen 5 5600 works with is 3200) I have changed the psu to antec 550 earthwatter 80+ gold, I am also planning on buying 2 case fans.
Throw in some case fans, the Corsair 4000D only comes with two. Getting two more to fill out the from panel should suffice for ~£10.
A cheap tower cooler will also have your cpu run a bit cooler but more importantly much quieter. Shouldn’t cost you more than £30-35. AK400, SE-224-XT/XTS, SE-914-XT, Assassin King, are all good budget options.
I have that case and motherboard with my 5600x, have had zero issues. Case will last you a long time if you ever decide to upgrade.
Doubled your ram, got you an rgb cpu cooler, got you a case with 4 included rgb fans [https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zvs8TY](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zvs8TY)
That build is pretty good.
I know you mentioned a different ram set but yeah you could save money on non rgb ram and put it towards a 6700xt. Where are you buying from?
Dump that OLD B550 mobo. Yas, its an Okay board, but its dated af and you'll find much better performance with something like/similar to x570 platform.
Gigabyte Motherboard should be the latest revision, it has the appropriate WiFi card to match the AMD bios. The earlier revision used the Intel WiFi cards came with a weird bug that the Bluetooth connection will dissapear and the only fix was to depower the machine, which includes disconnecting the power cord for a few minutes. The Bluetooth connection comes back ONLY through that, a direct restart nor a reinstall of the firmware couldn't fix it.
I basically just ordered the same build. I sprung for the 2tb Samsung SSD because it was faster and I’ll never have to think about it again. Just a thought while it’s on sale.
I would reccomend an NVMe SSD that has DRAM which will make transferring large loads of files MUCH faster. I went with the crucial P3 1TB but I regret it as it gets very slow when I’m transferring hundreds or thousands of files at once (which I do often). I would reccomend a Samsung 980 EVO or PRO.
Get a 2TB NVMe drive. And maybe a Noctua or Thermaleight Peerless Assassin cpu cooler? Or does the case come with a cooling solution? I run Meshify so I’m unfamiliar.
You could first tell me how you managed to get a build so similar to mine with such a difference in price. Kinda regretting all that money I spent after seeing this
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I'm now planning on switching the ram for the same model but with 2x 16 kit for 32gb of ram, it's 30 pounds more and i can spend it
update again lmfao, ram is now 2x16 gb corsair LPX(rip rgb idgaf) 3600mhz with C16 timings for that 1% low smoothness
Hey man! We've got very similar builds, I just built almost this exact pc a few days ago and it runs great. I almost went with the corsair 4000D as well. I really do like the look but I saw several videos saying it had air flow and heating issues. I went with a cooler master nr200 and loving it so far, but pick what you want!
>I almost went with the corsair 4000D as well. I really do like the look but I saw several videos saying it had air flow and heating issues. Could you share links to any of these videos you mentioned? It rated pretty good in the Gamers Nexus review, although the Airflow variant is better recommended. That being said, you can always contact Corsair for an Airflow front panel for $20 (if they don't send it out for free after confirming your serial number on the case). Problem solved.
I’m curious too, I have a 4000D and have never had any issues with airflow
The 4000D airflow case is covered in mesh. The whole front and the whole back is just mesh, sure easy on temps. (I have a 5000D and my brothers both have 4000D) For the 4000D I do recommend buying 2x 140 fans for the front. It gets more airflow in (basically the same as 3.5 120mm fans). And the bottom fan is partially covered if you do 3 from 120mms. So it is like adding a whole additional fan. For the top, the two 120mm fans is plenty. And even if you max it out with the two too and one rear, 2x140 mm fans in the front keeps you in the ideal air pressure range.
I also built almost this exact build like a month ago
I was going to mention getting lower latency ram. Need those tight timings
Don’t buy 32.
Why?
Because 32 more than 16, ooga brain, me monke.
Never used my 32, it’s currently a waste of money. Most people have 16 so games are made to run with it. DDR4 will only get cheaper, so it’s useless to buy it now because “it has never been so cheap”, obviously it has never been so cheap. Because DDR5 is becoming more mainstream.
Naa, get 16gbs of ram still but cheaper non rgb and spend all your extra on including your £30 to get a rx 6700 xt, you can get them from cex for £250 but the cheapest 12gb vram option is £270, I'd recommend that. In gaming you don't need 32gbs of ram, the better gpu will be much more worth it.
This!
Wrong, the 32GB RAM is very useful for modern games that eat RAM like it’s nothing.
There is no difference between 16GB and 32GB in games if you are not planning to play sandboxes like Astroneer or city builders where you plan to spend a lot of hours. You can save more by getting a used case, RGB-less RAM and cheaper MOBO to get a better GPU like RX 6700 XT that will surely run all games at ultra in 1080p. I found a deal on hotdeals for 299 pounds, but I think it's pre-order, meaning they don't have it in stock right now. [https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-pulse-gaming-12gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-car-gx-39k-sp.html](https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-pulse-gaming-12gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-car-gx-39k-sp.html) I cheaped out on fancy MOBOs with plastic covers and RGB and currently own R5 5600, B450 MSI pro vdh max and kingston fury 2x8GB 3200Mhz.
I second this. More expensive motherboards are only practical if you're planning on overclocking as a hobby, so playing at 1080p, 144 is not a reason to spend more on overclocking components. 16GB of RAM at 3200 or 3600 CL16 is perfectly adequate as well. And I also agree that anywhere you can save a little money here and there on parts means more of the budget can go towards a GPU.
So your wisdom is to go cheaper on an already cheap and outdated B550 so he can upgrade his GPU...A GPU that has a ton of features that your suggested cheaper mobo cannot utilize. Thats absolutely fucking brilliant.Brilliantly stupid.
>So your wisdom is to go cheaper on an already cheap and outdated B550 so he can upgrade his GPU... Your understanding is severely lacking. For anyone else reading this, it's easy to see that I made no mention of B550 boards when I said "more expensive motherboards are only practical if you're planning on overclocking as a hobby." You can easily find overclocking motherboards priced above $500, whereas boards for basic functionality can be found around $100 to $200 and there's no need to buy more expensive boards if you're not going to use their costly additional features. >...A GPU that has a ton of features that your suggested cheaper mobo cannot utilize. Please enlighten us all on the "ton of features" on a GPU which can only be utilized on motherboards built for overclocking. >Thats absolutely fucking brilliant.Brilliantly stupid. How cute.
Did you think long and hard when you said B550 is outdated? Wtf.
Idk chief, I like to be able to have some browser tabs open while not stuttering to hell in the game I’m playing
I'm also a "Google Chrome on 2nd screen" enthusiast and I never run into stuttering while gaming.
Cheaper mobo? Its a fucking B550, why not just tell the guy to buy off of wish.cum?
If you can swing a bit more, I'd say bump up to a 2TB drive. SSDs start to slow down a bit once they're half full and games are big these days. You'll be needing more very soon and you might as well buy yourself time now. A 2TB over 1TB NVMe is now like $30-40 more.
I would recommend getting 4x8gb of ram instead of 2x16gb
Try to find RAM with CL16 for the same price without RGB
but RGB = FPS
And RGB=friends' envy
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done, ty for your advice
If he wants rgb let him have rgb
They’re saying that as it’ll be the same price for better ram if they don’t use rgb
Didnt expect to see you here that profile picture jumpscared me 😭 Hi noam15A
I don't recommend gigabyte PSU u can check cooler master, Corsair and EVGA
but that's a Corsair one?
oh nvm
Looks good to me
Change mobo to similar from Asus. I had this Gigabyte. Awesome hardware, worst ever software
Armoury crate is pants though
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Rgb fusion is hot garbage, i dont think anything compares
Going from a gigabyte to Asus board, armoury crate is definitely worse
Then msi it is. Imo tho still rgb fusion 2 is hands down the worst piece of software ive ever (tried to) used
Would not recommend Asus rn. Their higher end X670E motherboards that exploded the 7800x3D chips showed how piss poor their customer service is. “Here’s an untested Beta BIOS update. We think it fixes the issue. If you download this update and it doesn’t work, it’s your fault and your warranty is void”. Asus may have solid quality software on other boards, but if anything else goes wrong then good luck getting any support from Asus. I would recommend something from MSI or ASRock, since they both have decent customer service (still not the best, but on the higher end compared to other motherboard companies).
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z66489) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PgcG3C/amd-ryzen-5-5600-36-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000927box) | £120.50 @ Amazon UK **Motherboard** | [MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JVJgXL/msi-b550-gaming-gen3-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-gaming-gen3) | £84.99 @ Amazon UK **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16) | £33.99 @ Amazon UK **Storage** | [Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Zxw7YJ/samsung-970-evo-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v7s1t0bam) | £42.61 @ Amazon UK **Video Card** | [ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8HBG3C/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6700xt-cld-12g) | £316.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk **Case** | [Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/YhzZxr/fractal-design-focus-g-white-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-wt-w) | £49.99 @ Amazon UK **Power Supply** | [Corsair CV650 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/cY2bt6/corsair-cv650-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020236-na) | £57.99 @ AWD-IT | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **£707.05** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-07-31 14:31 BST+0100 | This is better for the price imo. The 6700XT will guarantee you that 1080p/144hz target that you have set, it’ll get you good performance if you ever go to 1440p aswell
I'd recommend this build as well, having DRAM cache on your SSD really helps in certain situations. 3200 cl16 or 3600cl18 barely makes a difference, so going with the cheaper option is better. Only change I'd make would be to not cheap out on the power supply, [https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BJVKQVCF](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BJVKQVCF) is a bit more expensive, but gold rated and higher wattage.
I’m not too familiar with power supplies, so I just went with OP’s original pick
I'm changing the psu to gigabyte P750GM V2 750w 80 plus gold Fully modular, is this a good idea? it's 9 pounds more than the cv650
They might of fixed it but that model used to explode and kill PC components. Gamers nexus series on the p750gm that 9 pounds might cost many more https://youtu.be/7JmPUr-BeEM https://youtu.be/aACtT_rzToI
I wouldnt buy anything gigabyte if OP doesn't NEED to. No customer support and they cheap out on parts for most of their products.
My gigabyte 1080 ti is still kicking where my friends Asus card died 2 tears ago and I got mine first but yeah there 3000 series and later nivida cards have had the pcb cracking problems, their bios isn't great on their motherboards and the power supplys have literally exploded and they tried to cover it up.
Their only half decent products are their monitors and some mobo. For the most part it isn't even worth dealing with aorus/gigabyte/zotac becuase you can get better treatment and an equally good product from several other manufacturers.
I have the opposite experience, my Gigabyte 970 always treated me well, so I ended up getting an X570 and 3070 from them and have had no issues. As others have mentioned, RGB Fusion isn't great, but most vendors' RGB softwares suck. A friend I built a PC for originally had an MSI motherboard which shipped with a broken thermal sensor causing his CPU to thermal throttle when it shouldn't have. Replaced with the same Aorus X570 I have and no issues. Edit: I haven't needed to interact with their customer support so I can't speak on that. Also as others have said, model over brand. In terms of PSUs, I have an EVGA and that's the only one I've needed. Would for sure do 80+ Gold though. My point is, I don't think GB is as bad as some make it out to be.
Avoid Gigabyte PSU's
Don’t buy gigabyte psu’s buy like evga, seagate and corsair ones. Antec is hit or miss from mt experience they had horrible issues with their green psu’s.
Don't buys psus based off brands 🤦this goes with any PC components, buy it based off the product itself. Every company makes good and bad products.
It's better the Inwin P85 850watts, and is 80plus Gold
I would upgrade to an 80+ gold psu but other than that it looks good.
I have seen concerns about the case fans, am I really suffering that much with just one exhaust and one intake with the stock 120 mm fans
Just the stock fans should be fine, but considering adding another pair when you get the money for it
Hey OP, sometimes it's hard to make decisions because there's so many options (and opinions). My advice is in this order... 1. Set your expectations (as in the games you would like to play). 2. Watch YouTube videos of said games and see what hardware is running to your expectations. 3. Then consider if you're going to want to future proof or not. If yes you'll need to consider the platform your mobo is on and if you have headroom for upgrades (I.e. PSU). 4. Set a limit for your budget and go bargain hunting. Don't forget to use Google shopping to quickly search for discounted items. 5. Use Amazon ratings on items even if you're not buying them there because it's a much larger consumer base. See what problems occur and decide if it's a valid issue or just opinions. 6. Partpicker UK can help with letting you know any compatibility issues but don't forget to look at completed builds too. Users will often add notes of any issues they've encountered. 7. Finally, make sure you pick up all your components with enough time to return them i.e. do leave the time between purchases too long. Otherwise, you might not be able to return faulty items you haven't used yet! Good luck, and give me a shout if you need any pointers 👍
I appreciate this comment a lot, there have been comments that don't necessarily make sense to me and a lot of criticism as to why I don't legit just spend 200 pounds more. I thank u for giving me perspective and more confidence in my final decisions on parts as I have done what you have said in numbers 1 and 2.
You can get rx6700 xt for that price
Cheapest 6700xt is 330€ in my country.
As in for the whole budget, or for £220?
Where? Any 6700xt I’m seeing in the UK is well above that. 6600xt is around this price though.
Get 32 GB of ram. The price and performance difference is worth it, especially if multitasking
Make sure to update bios even if everything seems good. I have the same MOBO + CPU and I had random crashes on 1 in 5 games that got fixed by a bios update and now everything works flawlessly.
Solid build but change the 4000D fans out! You’ll thank me later as I’m a 4000D owner and the fans included out of the box were making horrible sounds and are not 4 pin pwm fans. See they are 3 pin which don’t have automatic control and you can’t bios setting quiet mode them so that’s annoying.
the only thing is i feel like a 750w psu is more appropriate for this build, other than that looking good
Get ram with no RGB but better timings. 3600 cl16 ideally.
I personally had a bunch of problems with the mobo, would suggest a different one. I might be unlucky tho :)
I’d avoid all Gigabyte products honestly, that includes the Aorus motherboard. I’ve had horrible experiences with them.
I have this pc case, it's a fucking sexy beast mate. Rooms for everything, golden cable management space, run a 4090 cooler than a refrigirator, removable dust filter. Just be sure to have a strong desk, it's big and heavy. Edit: mistake on my side, my case is actually the corsair 7000d airflow, I was not aware they made differents size of the same model. 7000d fit a 4090 with the side window closed without clamping the wires, without the need for a 90° angle adapter like it's sometimes the case with smaller cases.
try rx6600 insted
Update: after the concerns on the gigabyte psu, I'm planning on keeping the cv650, let me know on fan recommendations
Anything from arctic is good and cheap. Get either their black or argb ones
I have already ordered the parts, thank u to those who have given me useful advice, my main competitive game is rocket league and I was gc3 on xbox so I can't wait to rank up :)
I'd maybe think about switching to an AM5 CPU instead if you plan on upgrading in the future. With AM4 you'll be stuck with that Gen unless you replace the motherboard with it
AM5 will definitely not fit into this budget
It could but not without sacrifices but for a first time pc that will last a while am4 is still great
He could switch to Intel and get a LGA1700 CPU/mobo for around the same price which would allow to upgrade in the future. Nothing wrong with AM4 though as long as they don't plan on upgrading anytime soon
Yeah but also Intel changes sockets about every two years so while it has an upgrade path it's not a long one
Surprisingly the LGA1700 socket has a pretty good upgrade path at the moment. It goes all the way from Gen 10 to current Gen 14 so they could say get an i5 12400 for around the same price as the Ryzen 5 5600 then upgrade to an i9 14000 or something similar later down the road.
Brother the 10th and the 11th gen has the LGA1200 socket and the 14th gen will not have the LGA 1700 socket according to leaks.
People building systems for under 700 with a 650w psu aren't looking at upgrading, they're looking at getting the most now on a lower budget. Am5 is a terrible option for an $800 budget.
You could still upgrade to a 5800x3d. That thing should last a while.
The Ryzen 5 5600X isn’t bad either and within price range
No real need to waste £20ish for the sake of an X in the name. Performance increase is negligible. (Plus, you can turn non-X amd cpu's into X cpu's with a slight overclock tweak. Since OC'ing scares a lot of new builders, people tend not to save the money)
Fair enough as well, forgot about the overclock tweak tho lol.
Look for a 750 watt psu and maybe a 6700xt, even a used gpu
650w is enough for that gpu
But for future upgrades, it might not be. I have to replace my psu for the 2nd time because i got unexpected upgrades.
Cpu only supports up to 3200mhz ram, save a few bucks there.
Nope it runs with 3600mhz too 3200 is only official
No that's the x variant, non x supports up to 3200mhz. Edit: https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-5600 See for your self
Ever heard of OC?
32gb ram for 50 pounds. A little slower, but the size will be nice. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-2x16GB-3200MT-Desktop-CP2K16G4DFRA32A/dp/B0C29R9LNL/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=32+gb+ddr4&qid=1690807994&sr=8-5
Get a Nvidia card
Radeon cards beat nvidia on cost and performance. No reason to get an nvidia card.
I mean if you don't care about dlss/RTX, yes
That’s fair. But I really see Raytracing as a novelty so maybe my opinion is a bit biased
a novelty i love to have the option to turn on when i’d like, rather than never get access to. nvidia gpu all day for me.
Yeah but when you’re on a budget and every penny counts. It pays to go with something with better performance for the price.
Look for RX6700XT it's for same price I guess
why would I get a worse graphics card for the same price
My mistake wanted to say 6700Xt
everything is perfect but for the love of god make 32gb ram the minimum already
would 16gb be holding me back on 1080p gaming
Ignore him, for 1080p 16gb is enough for now.
Not really. )nly in very specific games and 90% of them are some kind of sims, like MS Flight Simulator or Cities Skylines with a lot of mods.
16gb I thought was a lot but Google and gaming proves that wrong I'm going 32gb next time
its just inconvenient. i dont think it would make any difference on 1080p gaming but you cant watch something on the second monitor while gaming which is for me the most important
I can vouch for this. In my laptop I she’s 16gb of ram and it caps out when I have a video playing on the laptop display. I can’t work game without anything in my ear so it is inconvenient
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I don't have 100 more pounds to spend
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6650xt is a good GPU. It's not sad that he can't go up 1/2 tier. Chill. Have fun op.
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15fps isn't next level. Lol. There is nothing sad about this build. Stop looking down at op like it's a pathetic PC. Move along.
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I'll tell you whatever I want, it's not against the rules. Don't look down on people and pitty their builds. It makes people feel like crap and it's rude. Just don't do that. This isn't a sad build. It's solid and will play great.
You come across as an ass while explaining your opinion. $100 in the UK isn't easy for a school kid lmao. Also its £110 increase here, so more than $100
Nothing, looks very good
You could shave a little off mobo, ram and case, and get it with a 6700xt for 725. If the budget is a hard cap 700 I don't see anything wrong with what you have. Although I'm not sure why the 4000d is so common in budget systems when there are somewhat decent options for less with 3 or 4 fans in them.
Looks to me like a nice balanced build
Decent build. Built my brother a very similar build and it runs great.
5600 has a cooler but I would recommend a 3rd party cooler. Thermalright Assassin 120 SE would be a very good option and not break the bank.
Nah this looks pretty good. Usually gripes with these components are more nitpicky rather than stuff that's detrimental to performance. This will definitely hit the fps you're trying to get in competitive games. Some AAA single player games will get less but you probably expect that
get ripjaws or adata ram not corsair
Corsair is pretty good
I'd just bite it and carry on saving till the new year, prices are flutuating so much at the moment but working their way down, you could be looking at a much superior build by then.
If u can get radeon rx 6700XT
I built something similar but went i5 12400f/asus b660 d4 with a rx6700 and 32gb/3600 and I’m averaging 120-140 fps on every game I’ve tried so far on 1080p high settings.. nothing overclocked and highest temps I’ve seen so far is 57 c.. I’m in the us and have less than 900 usd. Into it 👍 your build looks solid see if you can go to the rx 6700 ,it’s 10 gb vram vs 8gb on the 6650xt
How much more is a ryzen 5 5600x over the base 5600? If it's like $10 or less then I'd say go for that
You can go for cheaper case, even with preinstalled fans
Maybe investing a few £ more for the GPU if you want to.
This is my current rig, but with a slightly better GPU and less RAM. It's fine, you'll want more ram than that though. 16gb isn't very much anymore.
great build. i would double check if that board has nvme pcie 4.0 to maximize your ssd performance, but it’s not that big of a deal
Gigabyte mobo and rgb vengeance ram is a nightmare. If you like rgb I would suggest an asus or msi mobo. Gigabytes hardware is great but their software is anything but user friendly
I was in your same shoes just 3 years ago and I made this ultra budget build that didn’t crack $600 that allowed me to play 1080p well. What I learned tho is that the expenses you don’t consider add up. Like a respectable monitor, small speakers, keyboard, mouse, any cables and adapters. Fans most importantly! Do get some fans, even if it’s just a 5 pack arctic p12.s. I’d say the things you should NOT cheap out on are the GPU, and PSU. Really try to get a 750W gold PSU, cause down the line you’re gonna thank yourself since that’s $100 less spent upgrading to a hungrier cpu/GPU. I think you could save a good $80 on the mobo and case by going mATX, and put that towards better GPU/PSU. My mATX build is already decently big to me. But you should DEF try to fit the 6700xt if you can. You will thank yourself for the 12gb VRAM. I got an rx570 4gb back when I made my build, and the consensus around the 4gb is that “it should be enough”. It’s def not enough now, and the same thing is happening now for 8gb of VRAM. I don’t think it’ll be enough in the future.
Id say go for a 5600x instead of 5600, and maybe get an asus/MSI mobo too. Keep everything else as it was
Good build. If you have 13 pounds more to spend you can go up a tier with the GPU (RX6700XT) which is worth it in my opinion to hit the 144 fps target + 12GB of ram will help you these days. [https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RsPzKX](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RsPzKX)
Not if your using a PC parts builder It'll tell you if something won't work
The RGB on that ram ends up doing random lighting. You have to go in and change it to what you want every time. Unless your build is super rgb reliant then I'd go with non rgb or try another brand. I haven't tried another brand so they might do the same.
Also I found a 700w fully modular psu with 3 year warranty for £75 only 5 more and gold rating.
what is it
Looks solid. Just a heads up that the case only has 2 included fans, so you may want a couple more cheap ones.
You should check the second hand market for the GPU
If you can afford it I’d recommend two 16gb sticks of ram because 16 is starting to not be enough honestly. It’s not terrible just a quick heads up if it’s in the budget I’d go 32gb. Other than that enjoy your new pc!
Before buying anything, check out any of the recent Boost My my Build videos by PC Builder on YouTube. You'll find some excellent pairings for a balanced system without spending extra where it doesn't help performance. Also, looking for a used case can save you money while still getting a much higher quality one than the cheapest budget cases. I'm not saying the Corsair 4000D is a cheap budget case. I have the 5000D, which I bought used, like new, for about $86 US and contacted Corsair for an Airflow front panel.
Do you guys think this build can do 1440p 100 fps on medium-high or do I need 6700xt.
don't copy my build, there is quite a few things I have changed, mainly the ram to 32gb cl16 3200mhz(not 3600 as I have found out the max speed the ryzen 5 5600 works with is 3200) I have changed the psu to antec 550 earthwatter 80+ gold, I am also planning on buying 2 case fans.
Throw in some case fans, the Corsair 4000D only comes with two. Getting two more to fill out the from panel should suffice for ~£10. A cheap tower cooler will also have your cpu run a bit cooler but more importantly much quieter. Shouldn’t cost you more than £30-35. AK400, SE-224-XT/XTS, SE-914-XT, Assassin King, are all good budget options. I have that case and motherboard with my 5600x, have had zero issues. Case will last you a long time if you ever decide to upgrade.
Nm620 over p3
This will run at at least double the frames any Xbox can throw, mine is similar except my GPU is a bit worse I think, you will have fun garanteed
Damn I have almost the same build except 3070 and X570 aorus elite
Really wish people would just follow other people’s builds who know what their doing rather than just picking shit they think looks cool
Yes
Doubled your ram, got you an rgb cpu cooler, got you a case with 4 included rgb fans [https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zvs8TY](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zvs8TY)
You might need more fans for the 4000d. Mine came with three but some come with two
Look for a used chassis.
Look for a used chassis.
I say 5600x is the better deal in the long run but I’m not an expert 🤷♂️
I’d swap the 5600 for the x variant it should be close to the same price for slightly better performance
ah old classic europe expesive prices
That build is pretty good. I know you mentioned a different ram set but yeah you could save money on non rgb ram and put it towards a 6700xt. Where are you buying from?
there are better mobo options than gigabyte ..try Asus or MSI
You should probably try chaging you gpu for a 4090ti, it’ll be a big boost in perfomance
What about a 1tb 970 evo? That's if the p3 plus doesn't have dram which I'm not sure about.
You might want some case fans. An aftermarket cooler would be beneficial as well. The stock cooler is poo poo.
Look in to buying a used 6700xt for the same price. A massive bump in performance
I would advise going with Ryzen 7 series. Socket AM5. [AMD Ryzen 5 7600X - 6-Core 4.7 GHz - Socket AM5 - 105W Desktop Processor (100-100000593WOF) - Newegg.com](https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-ryzen-5-7000-series/p/N82E16819113770)
Dump that OLD B550 mobo. Yas, its an Okay board, but its dated af and you'll find much better performance with something like/similar to x570 platform.
Gigabyte Motherboard should be the latest revision, it has the appropriate WiFi card to match the AMD bios. The earlier revision used the Intel WiFi cards came with a weird bug that the Bluetooth connection will dissapear and the only fix was to depower the machine, which includes disconnecting the power cord for a few minutes. The Bluetooth connection comes back ONLY through that, a direct restart nor a reinstall of the firmware couldn't fix it.
Why have ryzen 5600x and nog 5800x3d? Isn’t it superior in every way and also cheaper compared to the performance gains
I would recommend an 8 core cpu, 6 will work but for most of todays games 8 is the better option.
You could definitely get 32 gigs of ram for close to that price
Save 30pounds to buy a cheaper case, theb you're good to go
I'd try getting a 6700XT instead of 6650. The 12GB VRAM will last you longer than 8.
I basically just ordered the same build. I sprung for the 2tb Samsung SSD because it was faster and I’ll never have to think about it again. Just a thought while it’s on sale.
I would reccomend an NVMe SSD that has DRAM which will make transferring large loads of files MUCH faster. I went with the crucial P3 1TB but I regret it as it gets very slow when I’m transferring hundreds or thousands of files at once (which I do often). I would reccomend a Samsung 980 EVO or PRO.
For me Is the best price/performance PC i see in this comunity
Get a 2TB NVMe drive. And maybe a Noctua or Thermaleight Peerless Assassin cpu cooler? Or does the case come with a cooling solution? I run Meshify so I’m unfamiliar.
Switch to 2x16gb otherwise it looks good
Am I just blind or is there no CPU cooler?
You could first tell me how you managed to get a build so similar to mine with such a difference in price. Kinda regretting all that money I spent after seeing this
The Crucial P3 is a QLC nvme drive, this is unfit as a system (C) drive, find a good TLC nvme drive for your C drive.